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thank you for sticking with. me i will be back tomorrow night. laura coats is sitting in for don lemon tonight. that trial begins right now. hey laura. >> hey sarah sign. thanks so much. great show as always. this is don lemon tonight. i am laura coats, sitting in for don. look, we are learning many more details about the fbi's unprecedented search for documents at former president, donald trump, mar-a-lago home. tonight, a source telling cnn that authorities did not believe that trump and his aides had returned all the documents and other materials to be taken to mar-a-lago when trump left office. now the documents, as you well know, are the property of the united states government. they don't belong to trump. some 15 boxes of material who previously returned to the national archive. apparently investigators had some concerns about whether there were any additional materials. including, perhaps, classified documents with potential national security implications.
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they asked the doj to intervene. the sources also saying there was suspicion that trump representatives were not being completely truthful with authorities over the course of the investigation. in fact, yesterday, federal agents did remove a traditional boxes of materials from mar-a-lago. now trump, he has a copy of a search warrant, but he is not yet revealed its contents. we have a lot to get to tonight, i want to turn right away to cnn's senior washington correspondent, pamela brown. pamela, i know you are on the story, you're getting some new information tonight about the investigation. what are you learning? >> a source familiar says that it's part of the fbi's investigation into the former president's handling of possibly classified information. doj investigators subpoenaed the trump organization for surveillance footage of mar-a-lago. now, this happened after a visit with the fbi, doj vigils went to mar-a-lago in june.
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met with trump's representatives, down there, after that visit. before the search warrant was executed by the fbi the subpoena was issued to the trump org by a source familiar. that the trump board did comply in turn over some of the surveillance footage from mar-a-lago. now, but i don't know is the timeframe. of that. but it is interesting to note, based on what i am told, by a separate source familiar with this investigation that fbi investigators were concerned that trump's representatives were not being fully forthcoming, truthful, about the documents that were at mar-a-lago. even after the archives took those 15 boxes. there was concern that there was still documents there, at mar-a-lago, there could be classified. that belonged in the government's hands. and so that is why, i am told, the fbi took this extraordinarily and unprecedented step to execute the search warrant at the former president's private residence. and also because of the concern about national security
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implications, laura. >> i trust the person to give me information i'm going to issue a subpoena, right? the idea that i'm gonna go in, maybe unannounced if i don't think i have all the materials. but i'm still curious as to why they thought that. but may have changed, pamela. you also learned that congressman scott perry's cell phone was actually seized by the fbi. this is a sitting member of congress. what can you tell us about that? >> this is another big step from the fbi seizing his cell phone. he released a statement saying that three fbi agents came to him while he was with his family and seized his phone. he says, in the statement, that the fbi hadn't reached out to his lawyers. but my colleague, caitlin balance has told a source that this is all part of the justice department's inspector general probe looking at jeffrey clark, the former doj official who tried to help trump overturn the election results. jeffrey clark is closely aligned with scott perry, this member of congress, so this is all wrapped up into that investigation. but it is unusual. because the inspector general, typically, investigates doj and
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possible wrongdoing within the department of justice. and again, scott perry is a city member of congress. but we have reporting that he helped jeffrey clark. he was in on that effort to overturn election results. we had heard testimony to the january six committee that he had sought a pardon from donald trump. something he had denied. so it is really interesting. this is all separate from the out there investigation we were just talking about, laura. >> pam, when it rains, it seems to pour. it's got many of these two things. thank you so much. i want to bring in cnn senior legal analyst, elie honig, a former federal prosecutor. and asha rangappa, former fbi special agent. welcome to the whole lake law firm this evening. maybe i should put your name first, asha? i'm sorry, it's of, first but i'll begin with you instead here. because, look, investigators were more lago justin june. they even talk to trump. now we are learning authorities were suspicious they were
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withholding materials and didn't really hand over everything. does that explain why things might have escalated from the time they were there to a time they are now essentially entering and executing a search warrant. >> it is the start, laura, i would say partially explains it. the question i have is exactly the question you raised. though it is one thing to be suspicious. that is one thing to suspect or being lied to or documents are being without. it is another thing to be able to prove it. and to prove that those documents are sufficiently serious and potentially dangerous to justify a search warrant. let's be clear we talk about just fine a search warrant. we know that legally all you have to do is show probable cause that a crime is being committed. and get a judge to sign off. there's also a political reality here. doj is going to have to show some absolute, irreplaceable, necessity in order to justify this on a larger sort of political practice cool scale. >> asha rangappa, that is
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obviously a consideration there. the idea that there's no probable cause. i mean, you gotta know what you are doing, job in the, ice crossing the tees, there must be questions that are raised in the chain of command. that says you are executing the search warrant where, on who's residents? that's all gonna be part of the equation. the question for many people's, look, where the documents they were seeking? i keep saying, these can't possibly be snow gloomster taken from the oval office at one point in time. that would be ridiculous if that were the case. what do you think -- what do they believe the documents may actually contain or at least at the category of information? >> so i think one missing piece of this, from what i understand, is that either my policy or practice, the fbi does not issue subpoenas to reduce and retrieve classified information for people who are not authorized to have it. i think because i subpoena may further expose that classified information to other
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unauthorized individuals. so their face with this choice between either the person handing the information over voluntarily, which i think most normal people would do when the fbi comes knocking where the department of justice. were to execute a search warrant. i have to wonder if they were just caught in that dilemma. which brings us to your second question, which is, what was the nature of these documents? and, i just go to one of the kinds of classified top secret documents that would end up in the white house, specifically in the president flippant president of the united states. these are the highest government secrets that we have. and they are secrets that are of great interest to foreign governments. including friendly governments and of course to hostile governments. and they are in an unsecured location that has a lot of traffic, where people have been arrested before for trespassing, with potential ties to foreign intelligence as someone was in 2019. then i think the government would really have a very urgent
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need to get those documents. i think the surveillance footage would show one of two things. one, is to confirm whether these documents were only in the location that trump said they were, in june. or, to, whether they had some intelligence that attempted to be accessed by someone and we are trying to verify that. >> here is the thing, elie, as asha rangappa made the point. if you believe there are sensitive, let alone classified information, that might implicate national security concerns. do you know that in june and then come in august and say, i will be back to get them? that is one timeline concern i have here. what would've been the delight? we do not yet know with the cause of that is, but that is just a point of questioning. that people have to hone in on. the idea of, why would there be a delay if you believe there was something there. then again, it wasn't an announce search. it happened -- i would ask you because mitch mcconnell, obviously minority
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leader of the senate, he put out a statement. saying that the eternal, merrick garland, that he should have already had answers about what led to the search. what would you make of that? if garland came out and was fully transparent and gave all the information to the public, to our hearts content? what would be your take then? look, selfishly laura, myself like everybody else. i want to know more. i am very interested. however, it would be -- >> exactly. >> it would be a huge mistake america for them to come out and start making statements about, okay folks, here's why we search mar-a-lago into respects. first of all, strategically, that is a terrible move for any prosecutor or investigator to do. you don't show your point of your hand in poker. you don't share your playbook with the opposing coach in the nfl. you want to maintain secrecy strategically. so you can build a investigations of people don't get it off. so people don't destroy documents. etcetera. that is a reason ember one.
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reason number two is you are trying to protect the rights of the individual who may be under suspicion. whether that is donald trump or anybody else. imagine if the attorney general got behind the podium tomorrow and said, okay everyone, okay mitch mcconnell, you want to know it or probable cause us, let me lay it out for you. we have this evidence, we have that evidence. that leads me to believe that donald trump committed to follow federal crimes. they don't allege that, we haven't seen, it but they have alleged and the affidavit. if merrick garland got behind a podium and said that, watch the outrage from mitch mcconnell, and that applies by the way to any person who is a suspect. democrat, republican, there is person, not famous person, so there's our vital interests that the doj protects by its violence. >> that was part of the outrage surrounding the former director chloe did. the idea of coming out, undermining -- and a sense of getting ahead of the schemes in terms the doj. -- didn't realize was gonna be happening at that day time. i mean asha, you are with the fbi that time as well. are we going to be able to see
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this affidavit? do you think, in any world -- i mean obviously trump has a copy of the search warrant. we don't yet have the full warrant. we have not yet seen it. do you expect to be able to have that released and why or why not? >> you know, i have my doubts, laura. this is national security investigation that involves classified information. it may be that some of the probable cause is coming from sensitive sources or methods. we don't know. i think that the fact that the current intelligence and export control section of doj was -- or the officials from this division were interested in trump in june. it tells me that this involves a lot of sensitive information that is already been reported as well. we don't know to what extent the probable cause is coming from sources that they wouldn't be able to reveal publicly. so that would be my worry hair. i think that the question is,
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will merrick garland actually bring charges? because obviously, if he indites trump, eventually, we will see the whole story. right? we will see exactly what the probable cause was. what some of the evidence was. but i think that if the goal here was to actually retrieve the documents and punishing trump a secondary and this can happen in national security investigations, were national security interest trump the criminal interest. it is possible we may not see criminal charges. i think that we need to contemplate that possibility as well. >> i think what you said is so important. who requires us to step back. because i think so often people are singularly focused in believe that indictment, and or conviction, are the only pursuits by those who are trying to get property back. trying to execute a search warrant. it very well may be that the goal was to retrieve classified data and have them in a secure location. that might be the facts, asha and ali. but of course, the appetite of the court of public opinion and
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we have been executing a search warrant of trump's mar-a-lago home after investigators believe the president, as well as his aides, where withholding federal materials. including classified documents with potential national security inspirations. that's according to a source it also says investigators had suspicions petra preventative's were not being completely truthful let's talk about now with nick ackerman, a former assistant special watergate prosecutor. and also olivia troye. former homeland security and
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covid passports adviser for the vice president, mike pence. good to see both of you here today. i want to begin with you, nick, because i really want your expertise here. for this particular. i mean, for a surge like this to happen, on a former president. it can't possibly be taken lightly. and i wonder, what stands out to you and are you seeing any clues about where this might be headed? >> it is very hard to see with this is about i mean, the sources that you referring to, we don't know who that sources. it is not a government source. there's only two sides to this equation. it is east of the trump people that received the search warrant, or does the government. and my sense is that the government is not leaking disinformation and the trump side is every reason to be painting a different picture of what is going on. and they could correct that in two seconds by simply releasing the search warrant that they
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received. it is not as good as the affidavit that details the basis for the probable cause, the crime that was committed, and the location of the evidence proving that crime. but, it would certainly go a long way to showing us what kinds of documents are being search for and where those documents were. so, anything else beyond that is really speculation. last i could tell. >> nick, on that point, the former president has a copy of that search warrant. he is the reason why we even know and why search was even conducted yesterday. whether from the fbi, it wasn't from the doj. what do you think is the motivation for not releasing it? >> i think it is because there's information on there that goes beyond this idea that this just had to do with classified information. that trump took with him when he left the white house don't forget, that was 18 months ago, for this search warrant to have validity the information cannot
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be stale it has to have probable cause that is up to date it should be within the last 30 days. somebody, in the trump orbit, has basically ride him out and has provided information as a source to the fbi. it is included in that affidavit. now, what exactly this was about the crime those committed and what that documentation was that proves that crime? we just don't know. i am totally convinced it is not just this national security issue of documents coming out of the white house. >> well i'm going to guess here, olivia, go on a limb. say not only one, mike pence is no longer in the trump orbit so to speak. and that he was not the person who may have tips somebody off about something. but i could be wrong. i'm willing to be wrong on that point, olivia. but your former boss, vice president mike pence, he tweeted his concern over the fbi's lawful search. and i wonder what you make of his response. and his concerns?
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>> you know exactly disappointed to see that. because i think he was just feeling the undermining of government institutions. which he saw firsthand in the trump administration we lived in. so i think it is unfortunate that he went out of his way, in many ways, to kind of feed into sort of the right-wing machine. talking points. which have been executed like clockwork in the past 24 hours. as we have seen. especially given the fact that he knows how dangerous it is once you fuel that fire. he lived it any almost who is to own that. it is absolute ridiculous. >> one of the things to paraphrase and references, he's talking about the idea of what we see throughout the day. this whataboutism philosophy. that we have seen throughout the course of this year, last, year six years ago, and beyond. and, nick on this point, in terms of who knows what. in terms of the coordination of tanks. i mean, we can't look at this in a vacuum.
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there is an active january six committee. and it was not just about classified material, which would be serious enough, but some people think it might have to do with the january 6th actual insurrection. congressman so lofgren, who actually sits on that committee. was on full wolf blitzer earlier today. and she expressed her surprise by the search, like everyone else, and she also -- listen to this. she made this point. >> as your january 6th elect committee, congresswoman, shared any information about trump's handling of documents with the department of justice? >> i don't believe that we have a lot of information about classified documents that the focus of the committee are the events leading up to january 6th and all of the plot that occurred. if he stole documents and took them to mar-a-lago, that is really not within the scope of the january 6th committee.
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per se. >> nick, what do you make of the committee trying to really maintain their independence from the justice department? they've been had a big of a rift at one point where the doj was asking for what they had, they sort of negotiated with they would release, now i think most recently they're going to give them what they have. but what do you make about these parallel investigations? prudence or illusory? >> this is what happens in watergate. it was the exact same thing. but keep in mind, with respect to this investigation, it is a one way street. in other words, the department of justice is not going to give anything to the committee. all of that material is protected by grand jury secrecy to maintain the integrity of the investigation and to protect individuals who have not yet been charged with a crime. the committee, on the other hand, isn't it much more public forum. and a more public investigation. traditionally, just like in the
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watergate case, all of the information that the watergate committee gathered, wanda being brought to our office. we didn't bring information to their office. so, this is not unusual, it is not unusual to have two parallel investigations that have different objectives. as you have here. so that is a tension that is going to exist, while in the watergate situation, the tension was exasperated by the fact of the committee there actually provided immunity grant to certain people. hair, the committee has not immunized anybody. basically it has left it to the department of justice to do that. so i think this is all being done just the way we would expect it to be done. it is being done the right way. >> well that is both reassuring and also daunting to think about. history repeating itself in that particular way. nick. thank you. also the violent ask you this question because, look, we know that secretary of state. the former secretary of state mark pompeo testified before the committee. we were just talking about.
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so today, loughlin says, that he did answer questions. and yet, he is not seeming to leave politics at the door. he actually called the search of mar-a-lago dangerous. does what's happened at mar-a-lago make it difficult and even harder perhaps for republicans? that are trying to distance themselves for what happened on january 6th? >> i think it absolutely does. i think, look, from what i understand. pompeo went in. he cooperated -- the reporting suggests that he was there any answer questions and it was there for a while. so i think you would be able to speak to a number of things. my own curiosity is, whatever the discussions on the china 26th amendment and to what extent and why? why were they so concerned? why were they concerned about? i only say that because i'm curious to see if any of these documents are what's going on here sort of comes into play with that when we are talking about potentially foreign adversaries or foreign assets
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getting involved if it is indeed related to classified documents. and another thing that i just want to say is that what's really upsetting about watching the republican party and what they're doing here, in terms of distant information machine in many ways, is that they are forgetting the fact that sources, methods, and assets, take a long time to develop. they should be very concerned about this. there are lives on the ground, potentially, that could be implicated. their lives could be in danger. these are sons and daughters, mothers and fathers, who served our country. this is not a thing to be taken lightly. if it is classified information that can come the wrong hands. >> such an important point. if all the national security and it is just an important point to underscore tenfold. olivia, nick, thank you so much. >> thank you >> now look, they are pushing him to and that the 2024 white house bid. we're talking about, donald trump that is. i wonder, why trump allies think the fbi searched on his florida home might actually help him win?
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let's just say this fbi search of a mar-a-lago resort, well, it is landing like a political meteor with the distrust beginning to clear, cnn is now learning that some trump allies are pushing him to move his unexpected announcement of a 2024 bid up a little bit. trump ally, lindsey graham, talking about his conversations with trump just today. >> i've talked to him twice
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today. i've told him that there is legal systems in this country, abel yourself of, it time will tell us to what is going on and trump is a term, it now more than ever, i think this first president president trump is going to push through this >> i wonder if he is. joining me now a cnn political correspondent, scott jennings, former white house official, will jawando, he's the author of my seven black fathers i am glad that you are both here let's begin with you here, scott. because i am just wondering sometimes, what world we live in politically where an fbi execution of a search warrant might boost your political chances? where are we right now? well with this plot particular politician, donald trump, you described it accurately. i just give you with the viewers among republicans. especially people who really support donald trump. that is that in 2016, in 2020,
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during his presidency, when he's under constant siege. that there is constantly attempts to harass him. using the legal system. it always comes up short. and, with joe biden in the 30s, they'll can do the same thing to destabilize trump before 2024. that is the feeling and, look, i was somebody who thought that coming out of january 6th. how did these hearings. and everything else happened the world. that trump was actually facing some headwinds. that the republicans who are thinking, you know, maybe we should move on from that guy. what i've seen in the last 24 hours everyone snap back to defensive mode over donald trump. because they don't like who is coming after him, here the perception is joe biden america than coming after donald trump so, yeah, i think it's been a huge backlash on this. frankly, that is why i think this pretty crazy that we haven't heard from the department of justice in the last 24 hours about exactly what is going on. >> i wonder if your perspective will and that's the republican
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version of it as well and how it is viewed from the democratic side. i mean, is this likely to be a catalyst for people to turn out to be more invested? to lean in more? >> i think you're gonna see depends on your perspective. i mean, i think it is likely to motivate people on both sides. as democrats we've been having a pretty good week and a half. we've enjoyed the passage in the senate of landmark historic climate legislation and tax legislation. and health care legislation. but you know, finding one of the osama bin laden's aides. a whole bunch of things that have happened that are good in passing. getting health care for people who need it former first responders in the like so this is obviously wasn't politically orchestrated, because we would like to write that out. i think as someone who worked in the white house and was submitted many things to presidential records and has been warned about it as a
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lawyer myself i think it depends on your perspective here. but i can tell you this, that i don't think this search would've happened unless they think there is a reason to do it. and i think they are following procedures to the tee and not saying anything. because that is not what you do an investigation. you left investigation play out. >> i will tell you what. if they did not thought their t's, dot their eyes, across 30's. they doubted the t's had a whole different issue there. if they did not dot their i's and cross their t, a whole different ball games to would be seized upon instantaneously. they're already conversations from congressman, jim jordan, to try and bring merrick garland for the judiciary committee at some point and to investigate further what is going on. but you also have this from another member of congress. this time, at least a fonda. who has tweeted, quote, if the fbi can raid a u.s. presidents, imagine what they can do to you? but first, this logic to me is always odd. because most americans aren't
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handling or mishandling classified documents. and also, scott, every day americans all the time having search warrant executed. that is what happens. that is not necessarily routine to happen to every single day. but happens across this country. so, why is this comparison being made? is it about the talking point to? >> i actually think it's a little bit of a shuttle talking point. i've seen a lot of people make it today. i think the more valid question is, when you just raised as you are coming back to me about crossing t's and dotting i's. i mean, why do we think that the justice department or the fbi can mess up here? oh, because they have in the past. as it relates donald trump. there were well documented problems within the fbi, within some of the warrants are issued for trans people. so, to me, that's what's fueling a lot of the skepticism right now. the affair going to mar-a-lago, and the reporting is about documents of paperwork, now you got lawyers both on tv and
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saying it has to do with january 6th. they saw him at. that giving what they had in the past, i know so normal for them to comment on it, but given would happen in the past and given what has been documented, to me, because he's a former president. there is some transparency here that would re-assure the american people that tees were crossed, eyes were not, it procedures were followed. because right, now we know nothing, other than what donald trump said on the record. which is that the fbi came to his house, took a stuff. >> on that point. again someone who could show the document of the search warrant is the person who has it, right? that could be the former president actually offers but will and all this combined. you talk about the democrats wanted to ride in terms of their successful wave over the past several weeks. we know what happened, of course, in the primaries. and of course the ballot initiative in kansas. there is a lot of trajectory to talk about on the rollercoaster that democrats are set to lose the majority in one of the chambers of congress. now, i have been on these polar
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coasters before. i am not a fan of them. no one really is. and yet, i do wonder, if they are predictable. but also, this all the tap and right now make the midterm that much more unpredictable? >> i think so. i think we are off script here. normally, if you look at the arc of history, the incumbent president loses seats in the midterms that is what happens so i think that is the norm we are not in the norm donald trump is not normal i think everyone will agree that this situation is not normal. it is unprecedented to have a former president home searched i think it was clear that he had documents that he took positions of had. what is in the, but they said, but the investigation was about, we don't know. merrick garland, former federal judge, nominee to the supreme court, is very careful. he's been described as a marker manager. i know this was viewed -- so the question is, what happens, what does it do to the polls, i think it's gonna motivate you depending on which
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news station you turn into. but this princess. i think if you go either way i know the diversity committee has and lighten a lot of people about hearing from the former trump staffers and republicans about what they thought happened and why they thought our democracy was at stake. and there was a coup being attempted. people are going to have to decide, based on what information they are receiving, but i think to say exactly how this is gonna go is too early to know. and i think we won't necessarily know how it plays out. >> well look, the big lottery is already one, about two weeks ago. we don't have much more evident at the moment but you know what, we're gonna keep talking about it, scott, will, good to see both of you. i appreciate it. look, we're gonna keep bringing you new information on the fbi search of mar-a-lago. as it comes in tonight. but also coming into cnn, primary election results, from wisconsin and minnesota and vermont. and connecticut. stay with us.
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all right's primary night in america and cnn's following several races in key states. the votes are, and let's get to. it here with me now cnn political analyst and national correspondent jonathan martin. he's the coauthor of this will not pass. jonathan the big race tonight's, of course within wisconsin, where is a salem from minnesota. wisconsin wisconsin. with the gop government tutorial primary serves, as you know, the latest front in the products who are between trump, and of course vice president mike pence. i'm wondering. how do you expect this all to go tonight in wisconsin? >> you're right all eyes on that governor's race. because it is a really important proxy war between
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trump and pence. and one of the most important states, i should add, on the presidential map. wisconsin is one of those key battleground states that every four years we see people spending a lot of time. and then you can see on your screen there, that the trump endorsement, tim michaels, was a wealthy businessman. he is enjoying a narrow lead now they're still about 40% of the vote out. but right now, he does have a narrow advantage over the pence backed candidate, the former lieutenant governor there rebecca cloche. so look, if trump gets a victory there by backing to michael's, i think would be an important feather in his cap. i'll just add one more note, laura, that is trump also endorsed further down the ballot in wisconsin to an seat the sitting speaker of the wisconsin state assembly, robin voss. who is a powerhouse in the state capital there. who has one transgression, when it comes to trump at least, is he is not been assertive enough
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for the former president in trying to overturn the results of the last election. and so because of that sin, trump is trying to unseat him in the primary. >> just think about that. not being assertive enough. there's sort of a script that one must follow that seems at times. but also wisconsin, jonathan, you've got republican senator ron johnson. he's up for reelection. and he is facing minimal competition on his side. you already see with the projection looks for the winner in that. of course, there are lot of questions about his efforts to push that fake elector plot. leading up to january 6th. now, the democrats for their part in wisconsin, they can actually pick up this seat with the man name adela birds. who's attending governor in wisconsin. and i'm wondering what you make of what is going to happen. and there's going to be another race about the truth of the election that could be on the ballot here again. >> >> i think, yes, the 2020 election will be centered in this election because of what ron johnson has said and done since then.
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but look, this race is also important for the future to. ron johnson does win reelection in the gop takes control the senate. he's going to be one of the leading figures and the senate investigating joe biden. so this is a really important race for the future of the senate. it is also important race for control of the senate. there's basically two seats right now. gop held seats. on the senate map. one is pennsylvania, one is wisconsin, where democrats feel like they have a chance to pick up a seat. and i think in wisconsin, against ron johnson, it is a really evenly divided state there is a history of close presidential elections. i think you can see a very competitive race for the senate this year. between mandela barnes, and ron johnson. i'll say really quick here, mandela barnes had a contested primary up until about two weeks ago. when all the candidates running
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against him dropped. out for clearing his path against ron johnson. it is a fascinating race. young, african american, fairly progressive although he's kind of shifted towards the middle here recently. running against one of the real conservatives, still a trump fire brands in the senate in this key key battleground state in the heart of the midwest. we're going to be spending a lot of time writing, talking, thinking about the wisconsin race this fall, laura. >> i only issue with what she said is that i'm from minnesota, which is a true heart of the midwest. i will leave that alone and let this night be about wisconsin momentarily. thank you jonathan, i appreciate it. >> no love for the cheese carts. >> no, i love the cheese curds, and it estate for time. but you can't culminated in with the heart of midwest is and not include minnesota, don't you know. thank you very much all right jonathan, hope you have a good night, -- but trump allies are enraged they are enraged about the fbi
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♪insurance!♪ only pay for what you need. ♪liberty liberty. liberty. liberty.♪ there is his phrase that keeps going over and over again in a case from former speak of the house, newt greene bridge -- >> of 30 fbi agents can take over the house of a former president of the united states and probable candidates look at the duty? >> there's something that's been bother me about that statement among many other thinks it is not the first or the last time i've heard it or that we will ever hear it but it's because it doesn't actually one admire -- it requires you to be aware of the reality. every single day in this country, law enforcement execute search warrants on residences, on businesses,
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everywhere they have probable cause to believe that evidence of a crime might exist sometime to get it right sometimes i get a prompt. but if the criteria has been met and a judge has been convinced the warrant is not only a shoot, but executed. now, on every day people, by the way. whose names have never found their way on any kind of a ballot. so then the novelty is not that it happened, but that it happened to a former president. now the outrage that is follow it seems to suggest that it should ever happen to former president because of political optics. the optics that it may be perceived as politically motivated. is that the new standard? in the nation of laws we are supposed to live it. post-watergate, perhaps, the one thing the nation could agree on was that no one is actually above the law. now i took that to mean that
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you would be subject to the same laws and perhaps inconveniences that everyone else is. and the title whether's current or former wasn't some temporal of immunity or a guarantee of special treatment. if you broke the law, you ought to be treated like everyone else who broke the law. is the new standard now that has long as you've been in politician or you might one day consider granting to be one again, not that you're above the law, no that's not. it it's just that you can't ever be investigated. or searched. or questioned. we're charged. i okay. i think i get it now. no one is above the law. but politics surely is. next, why did investigators search mar-a-lago? we get new details about what made them so suspicious.
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with a custom blend of ingredients. i'm taking charge, with garlique. a new details in about why the fbi searched comes mar-a-lago home authorities telling cnn that the authorities did not believe that the former president and his eight returned all the documents and other materials that have been taken to mar-a-lago when he left office. i wanna bring in cnn sarah murray who is covering the -- and the state attorney for palm beach county florida. sarah let's begin with you, because we are learning that this fbi search after suspicions that withheld materials but sk tell us? >> i mean part of what made this so perplexing, particles to the people in trump's orbit, where that is attorneys were engaging in this issue this idea that he took documents
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