i'm taking charge, with garlique. a new details in about why the fbi searched comes mar-a-lago home authorities telling cnn that the authorities did not believe that the former president and his eight returned all the documents and other materials that have been taken to mar-a-lago when he left office. i wanna bring in cnn sarah murray who is covering the -- and the state attorney for palm beach county florida. sarah let's begin with you, because we are learning that this fbi search after suspicions that withheld materials but sk tell us? >> i mean part of what made this so perplexing, particles to the people in trump's orbit, where that is attorneys were engaging in this issue this idea that he took documents with him as he left the white

house that the justice department wanted back. what we are learning is that authorities were suspicious that the trump team was not being utterly truthful with them. they were concerned that the trump team was holding back documents. that there are not putting forward everything that they had available. they're also concerned that some of those documents to potentially have national security implications. so that is part of what led to the search. >> they've, you've been talking to local law enforcement about this. i'm wondering what you're learning down there in florida. >> you know laura, first, off we in the state attorney's office did not know about this search in advance. neither did local law enforcement. but you can understand why we are dealing with something so sensitive, so unprecedented, you can understand why the feds want to keep this close to the best. and when i was told is that the secret service met them there and walk the plain clothes fbi agents throughout the property where they collected the documents. they collected ten boxes full of documents. it was pretty smooth. it was a pretty orderly

operation. so when donald trump calls it a rate, or siege, those are political terms. he wants to be the maga candidate who began in 2024. and the best way to do that it's become a maga martyr. he's not way to doing just that. the question is for how long? >> the idea plainclothes officers puts the idea of being under the radar. you know, this happened early in the morning. it took several hours before we are all aware the nation that this happened and only then, to the former president, we're also getting new information, sarah, about investigators going after mar-a-lago's surveillance footage. what do you know about that? >> it is hard to know exactly how this went on. but at what we are learning as justice department of educators subpoena for the trump organization and what they were looking for were surveillance tapes from mar-a-lago. we are told that the trump organization complied. they handed all those tapes over. all this happened before this fbi search at mar-a-lago.

what we don't know, of course, is on the surveillance tapes. if there was something on those surveillance tapes. we want to know -- we just don't know the answer to that at this point. >> we know, are we talking about external or internal within the private residence? are we some learning more rare information about where this information may have come from? >> i think we are so learning more information out where this in footage was recovered. obviously we have now learned that weather searching for was inside mar-a-lago. they're looking into the former president's office and into some of his personal areas, into a closet at one point, eric trump said that it is unclear what they might have seen on the surveillance tapes theresa mar-a-lago would've covered. >> they, when you heard that, why do you think the doj wants that footage? what could they be looking for? as a matter of how easy it is to exit and enter the facility? to figure out just how porous this may have been? for information to come in and come out? >> they are worried that these boxes of documents were so

sensitive that they could expose national security secrets. they want to know who's going in and who's going out they don't trust the former president with safeguarding it. in fact, that is why, in my mind, they issued the search warrant as opposed to a subpoena. because in most cases they would just send a subpoena. but that means, the fact didn't do, so that they don't trust donald trump to respond to the subpoena honestly. that is a sad indictment of our politics. that a former president cannot be trusted to respond to a lawfully issued subpoena. so they had to go by surprise, they had to go see if the documents themselves, and they had to look at all the footage to see who was going in and who is going out. it is a complete lack of trust between law enforcement and the former president >> will also, it is pretty prudent. if you think there is something that might be fleeting or if that might olives and have like, you would executed in this fashion. or just not extend the benefit of the doubt if somebody has already taken documents that are sensitive. i mean, i wonder why you would

continue to trust on that notion, but sarah you have some new reporting as well. the republican congressman, scott perry, was seized by the fbi. is this related to what we are talking about in mar-a-lago or -- >> right now, it appears to be distinct. but the caveat that we don't know how a number of these investigations are or where they wouldn't intersect, that is the caveat what's called harry said in his statement today is that he was traveling with his family and was confronted by three fbi agents who had a warrant and they csis bone. but we have been learning from a source familiar with the content of that warrant is that this appears to be related to the justice department, oig investigation into jeffrey clark. he is a former justice department official, scott perry was the one who introduced jeffrey clark to donald trump. then jeffrey clark went on with trump to sort of buy into all of these election fraud claims, come up with this crazy attempt to try to have a coup at the justice department. so the doj oig does, they

investigate wrongdoing from former justice department officials. >> scott perry is obviously not one of those. but his interaction with jeffrey clark might be why this is of interest. here is a part of what scott perry had to say about this today. he said, i am outraged so not surprised at the fbi, under the investigation of macron's doj would seize the phone of a sitting member of congress. my phone contains info of a legislative and political activities. and personal private discussions of my wife, family, constituents, friends. none of this is the government business we should note that we are told that his phone was damaged and that it was returned to him and that was pretty clear that investigators were going to have to go to a court and get a second warrant in order to actually be able to look at the contents of the phone which exist, they are taking precautions to make sure that they are only looking for things relevant to their investigation, not just pouring over the entire contents of scott perry's phone. >> i mean, privacy concerns are real thing. i understand your thought about that very notion. sarah, dave, thank you so much.

there certainly a lot going on at doj. we are going to continue to follow these stories. the mar-a-lago search part of their investigation, a trump's handling of classified information as well, but the justice department is also in the middle of a january six criminal investigation here to discuss all this is cnn legal analyst jennifer rodgers and contributor, derek graph. who is the author of watergate, a new history. jennifer let me begin with you. as you can imagine, there has been quite a visceral political reaction to all that we have heard about. i mean, you've got some republicans, making out that the search was a raid and came out of nowhere. but the doj had been pushing forward on this investigation for over a year. i mean, they're meeting at mar-a-lago with trump lawyers, is this just push finally coming to shove? >> well, i mean, we don't know of course what's the search warrant while uncover. and we don't know whether it had to do with these classified

documents or, as you said, the broader january six investigation. it seems to me it's probably the former. i just don't think they're quite there yet on the january six investigation in terms of search warrants into the former president. but, the thing that i have learned doing espionage cases is that if there are classified documents out there, that are not in the proper place, not being protected, not in the possession of someone who was supposed to be in the government -- will be intent on getting the back. that is our top priority. if they came to the government's attention to whatever source then the 15 boxes they issued in january was not the end of the story. and there were more material that needed to be retrieved. that would've been very important to them. if they decided that trump and his folks were not being forthcoming with them, when i handing over these documents, there was this whole run around with respect to the meeting with the government. they would've taken action and got in the search warrant. so course we are just speculating but my best guess is that some of that is what happened and led to the search we saw mar-a-lago.

>> that is really important, jennifer, because i think sometimes people think that the only result at the actions of the fbi in trying to seize or get back property. is that it has to be a conviction or indictment. sometimes, the goal is to actually get back but they believe to be properly secured. whether that was to satisfy the public and the electorate who may have an appetite for prosecution? a very different story. derek, to that point, you said that this search in mar-a-lago was deemed necessary to the lot about the doj case. tell me about why? >> i think one of the things that we need to be starting to think about, and focus on, is why donald trump took these specific documents. and the ad -- the clearly adversarial nature of these conversations between the government and trump and his lawyers and his staff at mar-a-lago. there is currently something in these documents that donald

trump thinks he needs to keep hold of that the government thinks is a big national security secret. it is hard to imagine the justice department, and merrick garland, taking an unprecedented step like this over routinely classified documents. as you and jennifer know, the government classifies all manners of documents at all levels and much of which is not actually all that sensitive. this does not seem to be the case. this seems to be a set of documents that the government cares a great deal about. we have heard in early reporting this year that some of them were labeled top secret level. some appear to be sensitive compartmentalized information. sort of even higher then topsecret and more sensitive than topsecret. and that i think part of what i

imagine the doj is thinking about is who stood to benefit from donald trump taking these documents? why did he want them? why won't he give them back to the u.s. government? >> that is the real question here. we have many people who first heard the story yesterday thought, no no we've already got the story about the 15 boxes and the national archives. we can't still be talking about that. but in reality we're talking about more and being entitled to the thought of being able to keep them to silver cleared out of her, if he were to still be the president of the united states. he would be able to declassify something at his win whether that is prudent or not, a difference caution, but that is not grandfathered over once you are the former president of the united states. but you've got when you are the president doesn't become yours forever to classify and declassify as chair well, right? >> that is correct. as soon as he was out of office in january 20th his appeal to

the classify ended and for example there are some suggestions, i think asha patel, that he may have verbally declassified documents that he took with him. but there is more to declassifying tender saying, i hereby declassify, you actually have to change the markings on the documents. there's kind of paperwork that have to be done to ensure that the documents that you've declassified are now marked accordingly as classified documents. and so, the government will be able to tell, as they reviewed these documents, whether or not they have been properly declassified just by looking at them, honestly. so they will know whether or not he did that and whether they are dealing with truly classified information that was being mishandled or whether he actually did declassify some things before he headed out the door. >> i can't up and think about that episode in the office when michael scott just declares bankruptcy by shouting out, bankruptcy. as if that is how it is done. so that would be an odd thing to have happened to at the presidential level if they can't cooperate that in some way. finally, garrett, and last question to you on this.

i just wonder, think about the politics of this. the idea of the combination of additional criminal pros are happening in the january six committee everything that's going on, and you've written the book and part about watergate and the politics surrounding it. when you look at this, what is the political implications and legacy of what we are seeing right now? >> well, i think they're two different ways of doing at this. one, this was one of the most sensitive actions of the u.s. justice department has ever taken. there are really only three and a lock that come to mind in my memory of the modern government and justice department. and watergate special commercial. and subpoena we should nixon's white house tapes. the fbi's attempt to get a dna sample from president clinton amid the kevin stars investigation. clinton's relationship with monica lewinsky. and the invests -- the fbi raid investigation of michael pro cohen.

the presidents lawyer while donald trump was actually an office. this is a sensitive things that the justice department has ever done. the political implications, i think, are too soon to tell. we don't know where we are in the donald trump story or whatever shoes may drop. jennifer mentioned the chances that there are other subpoenas and search warrants to come. it is a remarkable statement about this moment in history when word lead last night about the fbi search of mar-a-lago. there were a half dozen possible cases turning their way through the federal government that it might have been related to. and it took several hours for us to even begin to imagine which specific case investigating donald trump this was related to. and of course, remember. all we know is not from the doj or the fbi explaining that.

and being specific. it's all coming from the person who has a copy of the search warrant and does not release it. of course, donald trump. thank you jennifer. nice talking to both of you. speaking of the political fallout, they are calling for the attorney general to be assassinated. they are calling to kill all effects. and that just some of the violent rhetoric from extremists on pro-trump internet. stay with us, i'll tell you more. ork. building an experience that lets you shop over 17,000 carars from home. creaeating a coast-to-coast network to deliver your carr as soon as tomorrow. recrcruiting an army of customr advocates to make your experience incredible. and putting you in control of the whole thing, with powerful technology. that's why we've become the nation's fastest growing retailer, because our customers love it. see for yourself at carvana.com

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quote, lock and load. unquote. that was a top comment on an online forum dedicated to former president, donald trump.

soon after he confirmed that his florida mar-a-lago resort had been searched by the fbi. cnn finding other violence posts from trump supporters online. many of them, very explicit. like this one. quote, i am just going to say it, attorney general merrick garland needs to be assassinated. simple as that. unquote. another user posted, quote, kill all thuds, unquote. let's talk about it now with robert, professor of political science of the university of chicago. also here is cnn security analyst julia kayyem. a former department of homeland security official. let up of you here. i, mean it's not lost i mean that a few weeks ago, maybe a little bit more than a month ago you had the dhs bulletin coming out talking about the uptick a disturbing and increasingly violent rhetoric around grievances. and julia. tonight, these are some

extremely disturbing post. and i wonder what your first concern is when you see language like this. >> well, it's obviously the violent base is agitated and radicalized even more noisy there on everything from true social to twitter in more public forums. a threatening violence against public officials, threatening the generic civil war. that is what they've sort of focused, on in the language of civil war and what they call kinetic civil war. so these big threats, obviously elevate the likelihood that one of those individuals would actually follow through with it. and that is, i think, the challenge right now that the raid -- sorry what's happened at mar-a-lago whatever was triggered this action and trump is certainly as he has for the last six years going to take advantage of it. because, essentially that is a lot of what he has right now as his base is the violence or the threat of violence as he's seen

the party group polling. not necessarily move away from him. but there are strong sentiments to not have him be the nominee in two years. there is this union and disaffection within the radical groups that support him. these are the metrics that he judges as success. so, noise as it has been for the last six years, is how he judges power. and violence is his tool. >> and speaking of those metrics, i mean and of course civil war, according to cnn review of a service that tracks twitter activity, there was actually a search in tweets monday mentioning civil war. and, i just wonder what you make of. that i, mean the uptake in language and the word of a kinetic civil war. what are you seeing? >> so, julia that's exactly right. what we did at the [inaudible]

we did some analytics on twitter feed looking at the phrase, civil war. going back to about a week so that we could see the period before the raid and then after. and what you see is that that phrase, civil war shows up in tweets about 500 times an hour. and it's just happening every hour for about six, seven days in a row. and, then at 7 pm last night, as soon as the news came out, it starts to spike. and not just a little bit, within three hours it went from 500 an hour to 16,000 an hour. that was a 3000 increase in potentially community support, online community support for supporting and encouraging violence that could be turned into civil war. and we know from studying political violence from around the world that these levels of

change in community support can encourage, as julia said the lone wolf. it can encourage individuals. think the buffalo shooter. this is not happening in a vacuum. this is happening when community support grows so we do need to be concerned about that rise. >> and, julia, that is a stunning figure that you had just given robert. and there's also more particular ice as well. i, mean cnn found that users were also encouraging others to post the address of the judge they believe signed off on the search warrant. run a comment under one picture, quote, i see a rope around his neck. this is coming off the heels that we've had justice brett kavanaugh off like gotten. somebody arrested there. you've got legislation pending by a new jersey judge whose son lost his life when somebody tried to take an assault. are also showing a husband.

and this is extraordinarily dangerous. >> yes, some of the attacks on public figures and judges as well, i happened to be married to one is serious and real right now. and it requires vigilance by a whole apparatus of state and federal law enforcement to protect people who are just doing their duty. i don't even know if the judge is trouble pointing. it's irrelevant. i think what's important for people to remember is that we're not powerless in this. we focus on the anger and the hatred that trump has directed over the years. that core group is never going to be changed. so the measure of success from a counterterrorism is how i look at what's going on. it's going to be, are there fewer people that angry. in other, words can we begin to minimize the ideology. ideologies do not die in a fail swoop. i know everyone on twitter

wanamingo and want some decisive action. that's a lot to think about this. this is a long term struggle against a dark violent movement that has gotten a strong hole within our politics in the gop. i don't know how this and. but i know how the measure success. and that is whether these groups continue to grow. and the metrics right now are they are not growing. they are finding it hard to recruit. they are finding it hard to raise money. the leader is the platform, trump. he is isolated. he cannot fill a room. i mean, look at these rallies. so the irony is that he could either be the nominee for president of the united states. or he could be in jail, alone at mar-a-lago. and that is what this fight looks like. i mean this is exactly how violent ideologies get weaker. they don't and. >> sadly, it can only sometimes only take one person to act in a way that can devastate so many. julia, robert, thank you so much. >> thank you.

>> a big day for the biden administration. legislative winds, i mean international policy winds with all the trump discussions and drama how exactly does biden break there?

a historic day for the biden administration. the president signing the chips and science act into law. signing documents ratifying the entrance opinion and sweden into the nato alliance. it all comes on the heels of a huge win in the senate for the inflation reduction act. but with his predecessor once

again in the headlights, people are wondering can the biden administration really breakthrough. joining me now to discuss, cnn -- evan hostos. he is also the author of joe biden, the life, the run, and what matters now. evan, glad to see you. things are going pretty good for the president, the administration, then of course mar-a-lago happened. what issues does this raise, in your mind, for the current white house? i >> could tell you one thing lana, that joe biden also had this belief that for every high there is a low in your life. there is his natural battle seat. you've seen a cloud over the next couple of days. but i think we have to just consider for a moment what they've actually done, recently. because there's a real theme that runs through it. you heard the president talk about it today at the signing of this nato expansion. he said, and this threat should be memorable, he said we can write the future we want to see. that is not as casual political

language. that is a real response to the dress that you hear in surveys from americans who feel as if we are in effect, captive to these forces beyond our control. things like the pandemic, the rise of china, the russian aggression. and expanding nato, such that it fears people said was all be branded, it is a sign that we can do these things. that's the thing you can hear from him. it is not the silver bullet, but it's making that case. >> there are those who are writing the chapters around the administration. a sense of wanting to focus on something quite different. i mean you are right, a few months ago as we are covering more intensely what was happening in ukraine, the prospect of nato expansion would have been the story of the week. the idea thinking that was going on. yet we see that with all of these legislative winds, which is what's happening with mar-a-lago, with the top and chatter around our election some of what i'm sure the biden

ministration wants to write is quite different in particular, but they might want to say is different. there are calls, have been, you know from both sides. for merrick garland to give some answers about just what this search of mar-a-lago was about. but even though the white house, and president biden you nothing about it, i'm wondering when we got this sort of level of mistrust. can they realistically stay silent about it and have a hands off approach? >> you heard them today pretty clear. they said, look, their adamant about the fact they did know this was coming. i think any political amateur at home with say that white house, they even have the luxury being able to schedule something like this, would not have done on a week that would've stepped right on top of their efforts to have a victory lap. to talk about the things i think are going well. there is actually a long term approach here. a strategy. which is to say even at a time of real market partisanship like this. there is things that are

getting done in washington that actually have appeal -- let's give an example. three of the biggest bills that were passed were actually done with bipartisan support. the chips act, which you mentioned. nato expansion. also veterans benefits. then just a couple months ago, you have the control built. all of those were done with republican votes. so, sure, there are people who are absolutely dug in to the other side. who will never vote for joe biden. then there are the people in the middle who might be tiring of this trauma that we are drawing ourselves back into this week. involving the former president. . he you know what, it's time to move on, these are not the type of things are gonna solve the problems of my life. the type of things that actually seem to be happening washington might help me. >> as jordan peele cycler says. nope. i'll leave the right to everyone else out there. >> thank you so much, evan, it's nice to see you. and speaking of riding one's own future in america. it is primary night in america. there are voters across this country who are writing their

choices. not really. but they're filling in the bubbles that will do so. for wisconsin, it is trump's candidate versus pence's candidate. but both of them, they spot election lies. obviously

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in from primary races in four different states tonight. there's been a lot of talk about the proxy war playing out between trump and pence and the race for wisconsin's candidate for governor. but both in the candidates that rates have actually embrace trump's election lies. pence's pick, lieutenant governor chloe fish falsely claims the 2020 election was rigged. then you have trump's picks, this is been tim michaels, it's going even further indicated he actually made look into measures to decertify biden's victory and wisconsin. i want to bring in now, ruth ben-ghiat each, this re-professor at nyu. and author of strongmen, mussolini to the president. ruth, i'm glad you are here. i mean look. wisconsin is just one example, right? they're actually countless election deniers that are on the ballot. i mean, is democracy on -- white hold on before you answer the question. we cannot project that tim michaels has won. he's a construction company owner who was endorsed by trump. and has gone further and

embrace his 2020 election lies mostly by indulging efforts to to certify president joe biden 's victory in the state. he has now been the projected winner, defeating vice president pence is endorsed candidate. ruth, this is an example of election deniers being victorious. what does that tell you? >> yes, it goes beyond denying an election. it is highly subversives. it is follow the trend set by the texas republican party which passed resolutions saying that it not only accept 2010 results. it considers biden the illegitimate president. and kozma acting president. as if he's going to be leaving, you know, soon. from office. and i think this is the fruit of people saying trump's elation. but trump is a highly skilled propagandist any worked

ceaselessly for four years, or five years, to convince americans that their system was rigged but they couldn't trust their elections and that prepped everybody to believe that the big lie was true that he made a party dogma. so anybody who was trying to get ahead, and the republican party, how spouses lie. and we see the results in wisconsin and elsewhere. >> we are also seeing the results of those who are running, secretary of state positions, those who might be in charge of actually running elections, but we also know that there has been a political price it has been paid by some who had dared to speak out against the former president. gop congresswoman, jamie herrera butler. tonight is now conceding her primary contests from last week's race in washington state. she is now the third house republican who voted to impeach trump who is now lost a primary this year allowed. four are not taking reelection to have advanced. and of course, congressman live

cheney, is awaiting her primary. so what does that tell you about the future of the gop and where it might be headed? >> i mean, i really see the gop as having it exceeding democracy it acts like an authoritarian party if you look at other authoritarian parties past and present one of the things that distinguishes them is the leader cult. and you've got to be loyal to the leader above all. but the other thing that trump did, and we are seeing it in the results of these primaries, is that you can't have any internal dissent. you're not allowed to have any culture of democracy within the party. and so this started while he was still in office, where peter meijer who's one of the people now lost a seat. when he voted to impeach trump in february 2021. he had to buy body armor because he got threats. and the whole rhino phenomena. where you go after people in their own party who are not

loyal. this is not democratic behavior. this is authoritarian. so now the election results that we're seeing right now are bearing this out. that it is not possible to have any democratic dissent within the republican party because it is no longer democratic party. we'll, if that is the future, then i wonder what it will hold in november at the general election when we're actually talking about a more varied electorate who has to actually decide who will be the leaders in these different states. a question, frankly, ruth, i don't think everybody has a clear answer to today, tomorrow and maybe not even in a few weeks from now and months for this very issue. thank you for your time tonight. nice speaking with you. also, mississippi grand jury is now declining to indict caroline bryant.com. now, that is the white woman whose accusations led to the

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a grand jury in mississippi declining to indict carolyn bryant donham. if that name sounds familiar, she is the white woman who accused a 14 year old black teenager emmett till of making advances towards her nearly 70 years ago. now, those accusations led to emmett till brutal death. a murder that shook america to its core and frankly does till this very day.

and, only after emmett till mother decided to have an open casket funeral, and a warning that this image is disturbing, for the world to see what they did to her boy. the horse done to her son. do you realize that emmett till would've turned 81 years old two weeks ago? cnn legal analyst areva martin, she joins me now. areva, nothing at all lessens the shock and the pain of seeing that image or thinking about this happening seven decades ago. and yet, after seven hours of testimony, the grander decided there wasn't enough evidence to indict her own kidnapping or manslaughter charges. now, there is a difference between how people think about moral culpability, legal culpability and what a grand jury would be deciding, right? >> well, absolutely laura. it is shocking as the story is

and in the horrors of it is, even 70 years later it is still as painful to think about what happened to emmett till. i am not surprised that the grand jury did not come back with an indictment for caroline brian. we know that there's been efforts over the last 10 to 15 years to have the case, you know, reopened and to have it re-investigated and to have charges brought against carolyn bryant donham. but every time that there has been a real investigation of the facts of this case, the outcome has been the same. there's been a determination that there is just not enough evidence to charge even though we know that there is this alleged memoir were carolyn bryant donham apparently recanted her statement about what emmett till did. but even with that meant more being out in the public sphere, no district attorney has been willing to move forward with charges against her. >> we also learned back in june that there was an unserved warrant for her arrest that was

found charging her. and her than husband, roy bryant and j.w. william in emmett till's addiction. i'm guessing, just saying their names just sickens me to think about what they did, but the two men what they did to a metal. it really causes me a great deal of paying to even articulate that. they were arrested and they were acquitted on murder charges only to then confess later. but carolyn bryant donham she was never taken into custody. so, this wasn't followed up on? i mean, an arrest warrant until now? that's stunning to people. >> it absolutely is stunning. and, you talk about the system filling this family. that's exactly what happened, laura. the system failed and metals family. there was this woman was apparently available. her whereabouts were not unknown. she did not leave the country. but to think that she was allowed to escape, you know punishment and to not be held accountable for the role that

she played in the lynching of emmett till is very disturbing. and talking about emmett till turning 81, he has a cousin who says he was an eye witness to what happened, who talks about, till this day, helping fill this entire experience still is for his entire family. so, there are still people who are living laura, who were alive at the time. you know, who are alive and who witnessed this who can still give testimony about what happened to emmett till. >> so, what does that say areva about this country that we are still searching for justice for this? i, mean this was a case. this was a person who has been so impactful in the overall civil rights movement. i mean the story of emmett till is well known. it is something that is inescapable. >> i think what it says, laura, is that we have so much work to still do in this country. we've made, of course, a lot of progress. but we know that we still have a dual justice system.

we know we have a justice system that treats african americans and people of color differently. we know that the standards that are applied to african americans are different. we know that the light of a 15 year old black amid till does not have or did not have the same meaning of the life of someone who is white if that had been a white boy who had been killed by two black men, had a black woman been involved in this conspiracy, would these two men to kill a 15 year old white teen, we know that the outcome would've been different. and that is the reality that we find ourselves in. and access to us, laura, that we cannot stop working. we cannot stop fighting. we can't stop standing up and we can stop calling out the kind of injustices that we see with respect to the emmett till case. that we see played out in cases even in 2022. >> so we'll sell areva martin. that young boy ought to become a man and it should be a great grandfather this day. he is not.

>> yeah. >> thank you everyone for watching, our coverage continues.

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