brain, and hair, skin & nails. new one a day multi+. to be clear, we have never been accused of being flashy, sexy or lit. may i? we're definitely not lit. i mean seriously, we named ourselves booking.com which is kind of lit if we are talking... literal... ha ha. it's why we're planet earth's number one site for booking accommodation. we love booking stuff! and we're just here to help you make the best of your vacation. ow... hi... booking.com booking.yeah

♪ ♪ the thing that's different about a vrbo vacation home. you always have the whole place to yourself. no stranger at the dinner table making things awkward. or in another room taking up space. it's just you and your people. because why would you ever share your vacation home with someone you wouldn't share your vacation with. ♪ ♪ a bright note to end the program, a real cooper roberts, paralyzed in the highland park shooting, could soon be heading back to school. hoover is currently in a hospital after being moved out of pediatric icu last week. simon says he is now doing daily physical activity to help

with strength and activity. you will be there for another six and 12 weeks and is expected to join his twin brother for half the school and you have patient reba have. let's take a look. cooper is also been reunited with the family dog, george, and he's been asking him -- great friends, for united. the news continues, let's head over to sara sidner at cnn tonight. >> anderson, thanks so much, this is cnn tonight. the big question, what exactly was the fbi looking for when it's executed a search warrant at former president trump's florida home. why was it so important? there is still a lot that we do not know. but we are getting more information. here is what cnn is learning from someone familiar with the matter. the search of mar-a-lago came after federal authorities believed trump or his team had not actually returned on the documents and materials that belonged to the government. remember, they handed over 15 boxes of material earlier this year, but now, a lawyer for trump tells the washington post

that they took 12 more boxes from the basement storage area of trump's home. two other important points from cnn sources, one, authorities believe that the documents at mar-a-lago had national security implications and, to, there is also suspicion that after months of discussion about this, that trump's team was not being completely honest with investigators, meanwhile -- the justice department is not saying a thing, more than 24 hours after this extraordinary step, as trump supporters roy behind him tonight. >> we love you, donald. yes! yes! i love you! i love you! >> you hear the response from those who are his supporters. there is the former president is riding back to trump tower in manhattan just a few minutes ago. meanwhile, on capitol hill, some in the gop is calling for attorney general merrick garland to resign or be

impeached. others like senate majority leader mitch mcconnell and trump's former vice president mike pence are calling for much greater transparency, and they want it right now. here is what pence said on twitter. yesterday's actions undermines public confidence in our system of justice and attorney general garland must give a full accounting to the american people, as to why the actions taken. and he must do so, immediately. should garland come forward to explain why the fbi went in to help eliminate any perception that trump is being politically persecuted, as he claims, keep in mind, it was not so long ago that the ex president had a lot of positive things to say about the current attorney general. >> i have to say this, judge garland is highly respected. i have a lot of respect for him. i do. i have a lot of respect for. >> a lot of respect for garland, that was september of 2020 and now, accusations that the just

a system has been weaponized. what's changed? well, we sort of know, don't we? this is not the only movement from the fbi. republican congressman scott perry says that the bureau sees his cell phone today. it is not clear what prompted that seizure, but perry is closely linked to former doj official, jeffrey clark. clark is the one that wanted to be installed as the acting ag to help overturn the election. perry also communicated with trump's chief of staff, mark meadows, about those efforts. so, where my oldest league lead next? we have to guess with that that will provide important perspective. peter strzok is a former fbi counter intelligence official, who played a central role in both the hillary clinton email in the trump russia investigations. he's the author of compromise, counterintelligence and the threat of donald j trump. also with us, former trump white house press secretary, stephanie grisham, who says that she herself saw donald

trump mishandle documents. she saw that with her own eyes. >> peter, let's start with you. what kind of evidence would the fbi need to believe is there in order to take this extraordinary step and go into a former presidents home and take out items with, of course, a search warrant? >> first of all, it is extraordinary. this is the first time in history at the fbi that any fbi agent had a warrant issued by a judge and got into a former presidents residence and search for information. the standard of a search warrant -- is that something that a judge, not anybody within the executive branch, the prosecutor and agents have to go to a judge and lay out in an affidavit, facts supporting the cause that there is evidence of a crime at the place to be served at the moment. one, it has to relate to something that is criminal. number two, it can't be something that was there a threes ago or a long time ago, it has to be a probable cause to believe it's the right now.

so what that tells me, in particular, when we are hearing sources coming out saying that people are concerned about the national security implications of what might have been, there certainly coupled about what we know about prior information about the materials the trump eventually turned over from mar-a-lago to the archives, i have a strong suspicion that the material most recently recovered by the fbi -- it's quite likely classified information. that is important, because there are several federal criminal laws that prohibit unauthorized personnel from maintaining classified information. my best clause is that the material the fbi seized yesterday is likely to be classified information and quite possibly highly sensitive, highly's classified information. i'm curious about right now is a couple things that you pointed out. one, there seems to be the suspicion that people knew that trump and his attorneys were not being forthcoming. how is it that they knew that? did they see something when they were there, in at mar-a-lago?

is there somebody on the inside of mar-a-lago that told them that there are things that trump and his attorneys were denying? does the archives have some sort of list, were somebody in the intelligence community have a list of things that they know were not turned in? these are all questions that the doj is posing right now, the fbi has right now, and we are looking from the outside, trying to make a best guess about with that might be. >> can i ask you something though? you talked about something being highly sensitive and potentially a breach of intelligence. why, when the fbi investigators were there talking to donald trump attorneys, as we have learned, with a leave it there for weeks, before they went back in? what would have prompted them to say, you know what, we will walk away from this and be back weeks later? >> that's a huge question because none of this should come as a surprise, the fact that there is federal interest in the material, because going back to last year, the middle of last year, is when the national archives first reached out, according to media

reporting, to mar-a-lago to the former presidents attorneys and others and said, hey, we think that there is material here that you may have. in fact, that produced early this year a batch of 15 or so boxes, which according to what they called congress, contained highly classified information. from there, we see this slow dance where they believe that it was classified information there. they engage with the executive branch for a classification review. it appears that they determined that there is in in fact classified material they are because the executive branch issued a subpoena to the archives to get that material in the april timeframe of this year. and so then in june, we have cnn doing broke this reporting that a group of prosecutors and investigators go down to mar-a-lago and are having a discussion in early june with ac this room in the basement. what is in their concerns them so much that by this letter, they sent a letter saying, secure that room. and according to reporting, a lock, a padlock was put on the

door. none of this is a surprise. if you are trump and want to detroit, you have over a year to do it. the doj has to, of course, move cautiously, in part, because you are dealing with the former president of the united states. he hasn't to at this moment destroyed it, so it may stay there, and he can secured. secure it. then it is absolutely important, from what we heard attorney general garland say time and time again, that we absolutely as a nation, the doj has to get a right. when we are dealing with somebody at the level of the president, former president, who has never been subject to a search warrant before in the history of our nation, that i think counts for some elaborate face that you see from the department of justice. >> stephanie, i want to go to you now. you have lived in former presidents trump's orbit. you have seen things that we cannot see. can you give me an example of something that you have seen happen that concern do when it

came to the president at the time and potentially sensitive documents? >> well, there were many public instances that i can talk about. i don't want to go or do some things just because i don't want to talk about a lot of national security issues, but there are many public things that he did while we were in office, it was reported upon, and it happened over and over. one would be obviously when former prime minister abe came to mar-a-lago, which is the irony of that. kim jong-un in north korea is testing missiles. president trump and prime minister abe were at dinner in the middle of mar-a-lago with a bunch of members. all of a sudden, they are getting briefed at the table, members are taking photos, there is sensitive information, papers that are being shown both the prime minister abe and former president trump, and members are taking pictures and putting that on social media. that is the first one. another one that i was present

for was a trip to the border, and the former president started talking to the press who had assembled about some of the technological advances that a new gadgets, how is that, word that we had at the border. somebody had actually stepped in and set, mister president, you should not be talking about those items. and finally, another one that i was actually present for was when the former president did the announcement about killing al-baghdadi in the raid there. as he usually did, he went off script and talked about highly classified information and technically sensitive that had a lot of our military leaders very worried and upset. so those are some public things that he did. i have talked about this before, i sat behind him in a plain one time we had a bunch of documents he was going through. i was bored, no one could have phones on the particular fight. so i was just watching him, and he was going through a big pile of documents. something he would tear, of

something she would throw, away some thinks he would terrebonne put in his pocket and some things he would fold up and put in his pocket. at the time, i did not know was there. i did not know if it was classified or what those things were. but i do recall, thinking, i wonder about his filing system. what made him tear it up and put on the floor versus putting it in his jacket? those are some of the things that i have seen. we did not have a real culture of compliance, i would say, at our white house, we were certainly given trainings every year. but when you saw somebody at the very top level, who is the president of the united states, doing a lot of what he was doing, i think a lot of people -- not all, i want to be clear about that -- felt those rules didn't apply. >> it sounds like the president himself did not think those rules applied from what you are describing. peter and stephanie, we are just scratching the surface here. we want you to stick around, because we've a lot more to ask you about your experiences and also about what is an extraordinary time in the history of america and the presidency. we will be right back.

(driver 1) it's all you. (driver 2) no, i insist. (driver 1) it's your turn. (burke) get farmers and you could save money with the safe driver discount just by having a clean driving record for three years. get a whole lot of something with farmers policy perks. (driver 3) come on! ♪ we are farmers. bum-pa-dum, bum-bum-bum-bum ♪

new astepro allergy. no allergy spray is faster. with the speed of astepro, almost nothing can slow you down. because astepro starts working in 30 minutes, while other allergy sprays take hours. and astepro is the first and only 24-hour steroid free allergy spray. now without a prescription. astepro and go. oh, hey. buying a car from vroom is so easy, all you need is a phone and a finger. just go to vroom.com, scroll through thousands of cars. then, tap to buy. that's it. no sales speak. no wasted time.

just, straight up great cars. right from your phone to your driveway. go to vroom.com and pick your favorite. wooo. oh yeah, she digs it. buy your car on vroom.com vroom. get in. your record label is taking off. but so is your sound engineer. you need to hire. i need indeed. indeed you do. indeed instant match instantly delivers quality candidates

matching your job description. visit indeed.com/hire >> thanks for hanging with us. we are back with peter strzok and stephanie grisham. as we learn new details of the fbi search of mar-a-lago, peter, i want you to listen to what the ranking member of the house intelligence community says about this investigation, as compared to the hillary clinton email investigation. >> they are two different things. when hillary clinton, while she was secretary of state, had classified material about a classified communications, traveling through her computer server in her house, putting it at risk or any counterintelligence, or any other but who are hacking into her materials. in this instance, we don't we know that this information are classified. the archivist think that something is label classified, it doesn't mean that it is.

we need to look at the substance of what the president has. these are ongoing communications of the united states. also, the president of the night states elect hillary clinton has really declassified those materials. >> okay, two points or made there. i would like you to respond to both of them. let's start with a win at the end. he says, the president has the ability to be close to five. does he have the ability to be classified as a parent the material after they've been taken from his own? >> he said and doesn't have the ability to declassify when things long president. presidents do not have what you formally think of as a security clearance, by virtue of the position of the presidency, they both can classify and declassify at will. the trump administration encountered such struggles in that regard, because trump suddenly tweets or make statements that he's going to declassify something, leading people to file lawsuits, to get that presumed declassified material, only to have doj and the white house try to walk that back and say, well, it was never written down that it was declassified. so, therefore, it was just his bluster. so, there's a little bit of an argument that, you know, trump is saying something as declassified, may or may not carry the day.

so, i don't know that it follows that the material at mar-a-lago, i assume and presume it is classified. certainly, the material, that initial batch of material that the national archives had, they said it was so classified they couldn't even tell congress, they couldn't even provide the table of contents. because that's how sensitive the material as. so, significantly, 27, 30 boxes of material, trump deliberately went through them and declassified all of that. i don't get that much weight. as your first point, keep in mind, hillary clinton was investigated. the fbi, over a year, it took them to get the initial allegations to a full understanding of what the material was, whether or not it was classified, why that happened and whether or not there was any criminal culpability here. we are a day from the search. the fbi is still probably working with the team to make sure that no privileged communications are not inadvertently given to the investigators. so, there's a road ahead that's

gonna take some time. look, congress is gonna play games. they do it on both sides. that's the nature of their political business. but what is different this time, in my mind, during the hillary clinton investigation, you did not have members of the democratic party try, and their supporters, try to do this sort of enraging the mob sort of statements that we saw out of a lot of right wing pundits and political figures. it wasn't just the protest that we're gonna call merrick garland to congress. it was talking about another civil war. he was talking about taking up violence. and that's the sort of dangerous rhetoric that, again, you say it once on january six, but before, that this isn't sort of behavior that we've seen from political figures. >> stephanie, anna bring you in here. what are people saying in that sphere? i know you have left the trump world, in some ways. but what do you make about what is being said, the things that have been published on some of

the right-wing rhetoric and publications out there is this is a war. we have seen that one. we've seen that won multiple times. what do you make of this? and nothing happens in a vacuum. as much as this is a legal issue for the president, it's also been turned very much into a talking point, way to fund-raise, and the political issue. what do you say? >> absolutely. you are right on all points. i'll start with the rhetoric. you know, i think some of it was to be expected, especially from someone, some of the very far right leaning social media sites, websites, et cetera. what concerns me is the fact that, you know, the republican party leadership, especially in the republican party, and you are talking elected and candidates, who have just jumped on the bandwagon of the fbi is bad. this could happen to anyone, it could happen to him. and that is what scares me a little bit, because it feels like january 6th a little bit all over again. i believe that part of our justice system, and the

institution of law, is yes, it can happen to anyone, if you are potentially doing something wrong, then i believe someone is going to come to your home and look for wrongdoing. in terms of the talking points, i also expected that, just from being in trump world, and living it, as you said earlier, and actually, participating in a lot of that. i see that they are starting now with the newest talking point of potentially the fbi planting evidence there. i actually wondered yesterday, if that's what they were gonna do. and i thought, stephanie, you are being so paranoid, stop. this is disheartening to see, but also, very, very expected. i do want to say, from a pr perspective, and it is hard, because it is a legal issue. this is a legal issue. they are fundraising off of it, and they're saying the same talking points. i do hope that when this information comes out, it will be translate double to the american people, meaning if that national security information comes out, and if

something about our sources and methods, meaning it could put american lives at risk. i hope that the doj and anybody else involved will be smart about making it translate-able to the american people so they really understand what a detriment to our country can be. this can't be just, it was a momentum or letter. that's the case, they handed this president another term, i believe. >> peter, i do want to ask you this. there's always gonna be a lot of talk about this. the fbi has been under scrutiny. you, yourself, under scrutiny. there are people on the left and the right, there are people across the board, who have a trust issue, a trust deficit with the fbi. should in the fbi have handled this somewhat differently, or at least, come out and then some kind of press conference to give people an idea of what it is they got, or are looking for? >> none of this, not at this point, i think. look, there absolutely is a trust issue between the american people, and not just the fbi, but across the government.

and i think that's a direct result of four years of trump attacking the mechanisms of the professionalism of the u.s. government, whenever it didn't suit his goal. so, i do think that there. i think the way that you respond to that is exactly what attorney general mark garland and the fbi are doing. they are going out, doing a professional job. i do think there's a roll at some point for either the fbi, or the department of justice, to make some sort of statement about this. because again, they know full well the impact of what they're doing when they execute a search warrant at the residence of former president, i have to hope, and i do believe it isn't just for the soccer ball that putin gave to trump in helsinki, or some gift from the saudi government. i do believe that this is highly classified information there that we are we covered, and i think there is a way for doj or fbi to get some indication of what was seized, without touching on whether or not or, talking about the progress of a kremlin investigation. but essentially, to dampen these this mistrust, to take away frankly, gift the fund-raisers that's been given to trump, that does serve to reassure people that this was illegitimate action. it's an action that every

american taxpayer would want the fbi and doj to do, regardless of the party, regardless of the position of the person. like stephanie said, this is an indication that nobody is above the law. and i do take heart in this, and this demonstrates that. i do think we will see some sort of information. it may take a little bit of time, months, perhaps. but i think we'll see some information, ultimately, about what happened. >> stephanie says, the longer it takes, the more there's going to be talking points out there. i think there's a lot of people there wondering why we are not hearing some information. peter strzok and stephanie grisham, thank you so much for joining us. >> thank you. >> gop senator lindsey graham said he spoke to trump twice today, and the likelihood of donald trump running for president again may have just increased. >> the one thing i can tell you is that i believe he was gonna run before. i am stronger in my belief now. >> is that going to help or

hurt republicans? donald trump did announce another bid for the white house. we'll begin more on the political fallout, coming up next. ♪ ♪ ♪ a complete multivitamin plus an extra boost of support for your immunity, brain, and hair, skin & nails. new one a day multi+. why woolite? because its specially formulated to protect your clothing from damage in the wash. like fading, stretching and pilling. woolite has a first of its kind formula that keeps today's fabrics looking like new. woolite damage and darks defense. - hey honey. - hey dad. that smell could be eight million odor causing bacteria. good thing adding lysol laundry sanitizer

kills 99.9% of bacteria that detergents can't. clean is good, sanitized is better. among my patients, i often see them have teeth sensitivity as well as gum issues. does it worry me? absolutely. sensodyne sensitivity & gum gives us the dual action effect

that really takes care of both our teeth sensitivity as well as our gum issues. there's no question it's something that i would recommend. wanna help kids get their homework done? well, an internet connection's a good start. but kids also need computers. and sometimes the hardest thing about homework is finding a place to do it. so why not hook community centers up with wifi? for kids like us, and all the amazing things we're gonna learn. through projectup, comcast is committing $1 billion so millions more students can continue to get the tools they need to build a future of unlimited possibilities.

my blood pressure is borderline. garlique healthy blood pressure formula helps maintain healthy blood pressure with a custom blend of ingredients. i'm taking charge, with garlique. >> a question on a lot of people's mind, is donald trump more likely to run for president after all this? he is privately telling republicans he has made up his mind on 2024. let us get some perspective because we need it, from john

avlon, mark sanford, former governor of south carolina, and our s. e. cupp. all right, s. e., is the gop concerned, after you are seeing, potentially classified information that may have been taken out of the presidents own, that was supposed to be handed over -- >> potentially crimes. >> potentially. crimes >> why is the party that often says they are the party of law and order not concerned about this? or are they? >> listen, i think, on the one hand, the gop and trump love this because they are sort of in their corrupted minds, this vindicates a lot of what they've been saying about this deep state, that hasn't charged him with anything yet. the deep state like the fbi director he appointed. the deep state of conspiracy theory he probably invented for moments like this, right? to prepare his fans to distrust moments like this. but on the other hand, this is

a bad. this is bad, for trump. this is bad for republicans. and i don't understand this argument that, maybe, the fbi just handed trump the nomination or another term. i don't get that. if this animates you in trump's favor, you are already a trump voter, a reliable one. you aren't more animated for trump now than you were five minutes ago. so, i don't get it. i think it's bad for trump. i think it's bad for republicans, even though, they are happy to focus on it and gin up their base. >> all right, john, the dems are being criticized as well for hypocrisy. and they've used this whole thing about how they defended hillary clinton, when it came to her emails. and i want to quickly just go to, we have sort of a little mash-up, some of the things that are being said about hillary and her emails, which is being brought up by the

republicans. >> as you know, the fbi has reopened its criminal investigation into hillary clinton. >> folks, she shouldn't be allowed to run. >> hillary clinton is disqualified from being the president of the united states. [applause] because she stored classified and sensitive information on her email server, because she thinks she is above the law. >> i want somebody outside the clinton network looking through these emails. >> all right, those republicans, democrats stood by her for the most part. what do you make of what you just heard there from republicans, who are saying, hey, what about hillary? now, this was 2016, right? but it's being brought up again, because they're going after this former president, why didn't they, you know, read her place? why didn't they look for those emails? why didn't raid anything in her home?

>> first of all, there was an investigation into hillary clinton's emails. she was ultimately exonerated. i mean, the state department did its own investigation. this was the genesis of the lock her up appeals, which remember, it was something very much outside the realm of typical american campaign politics at the time, right? we're gonna rest our political opponents. now, that is very different than rule of law, about if somebody breaks the law, and you know, part of it we've got people's head spinning, this seems a little bit like al capone's tax evasion. breaking the presidential records act doesn't seem for most folks, something like you have the fbi come into your private residence, of the next president. even though it's illegal. the obvious point here is situational ethics, and unfortunately, we are living that is table stakes in politics. we're living in a time when election lie is a litmus test for many in the republican primaries. so i'm not improvised surprised hereby that that contortion

because it's all -- through >> everything you just said is right. no, he's right. what's gross, though, is when hillary, who mishandled classified misinformation goes out and -- snarky t-shirts and hat. this is serious -- okay. >> the children can spell. >> i mean, look, i have zero stomach for hypocrisy. and i call out to republicans, call out democrats. i hate it. i don't think there's anything to laugh about, or fund-raise off of on either side. this is serious where our democracy is at stake here. >> i think you make a really important point here, especially with the perils of democracy. trump is trying -- to this is too serious. we need to start applying consistent principles and standards in our politics, and that's what we've got to do. >> good luck with that. >> i want to ask about the midterms. because there's a lot -- of [inaudible] good luck with that. the truth is, i go online just

to see what's going on, and you could buy a myriad of things from both parties, but especially the republican party, and people who are on the right we're selling things left, right and center, selling things like this is war. this is a violent rhetoric that is being sold to make a lot of money. and a lot of money will be made. can i ask you what you think this is going to mean, as we head into the midterms? >> i mean, i think it's a wash on tonight's elections, when you are this close to the election cycle, i don't think the last couple of hours matter so much. when i would say, it continues to harden political lines that are already have a no-man's-land in between. and that's the problem with american politics these days, which is, to your point, i mean, if you are a solid trump voter, none of this changes anything for you as a solid trump voter. and likewise, if you are a solid trump heater, nothing changes. and so you've got these hardened lines and the question is, where do we go as a republic next.

i mean, i think you are begging the point because at some point there is a star that breaks the camels back. i think, in the short run, it probably approves the trump's benefits, what is going on, and the trump wing of the republican party. over the long run, there is a straw that is going to break. >> what is it? because what's an insurrection? is it the second insurrection? >> i don't know. is there a straw? >> i think the question that needs to be asked at this point is, is there something that would make break the camels back so to speak, when it comes to his supporters? we just heard people screaming, i love you over and over and over again to the president as we are facing this -- extensively -- this very unusual time in history. >> i think it has to be remembered is that he's got to pitch it as, i mean, i don't know what is in the box, none of us do but. he's going to pitch it is, yeah, there were some post-it notes that had some scribble on them and that what all this is about. you're gonna get that version, and then, you're gonna get a different version again, nobody is listening to sort of reason. so we will play this out and

see how it unfolds. >> but let's get the information out. you know, trump could release some information. i think it's incumbent upon the doj or the fbi to put some information out there. let's have a degree of transparency, consistent with impartial justice. that's what we are missing right now. we need more silver voices, less people playing to that russian and the ramparts trying to publicize this. because this one because beyond politics. it should be equal just under law. >> that is the test. >> there is a vacuum right now. all right, stick around with us. we've got new reporting, congressman jim banks who's with a dozen other gop lawmakers at bedminster says the group encourage trump to run sooner than later. he also described trump as a beast and not fazed at all by the fbi search. we'll talk about all that with our great panel coming up next. ♪ ♪ ♪ in a buttery brioche roll. made fresh, to leave you... speechless. panera's new chef's chicken sandwiches. $1 delivery fee on our app.

♪

this... is the planning effect. this is how it feels to know you have a wealth plan that covers everything that's important to you. this is what it's like to have a dedicated fidelity advisor looking at your full financial picture. making sure you have the right balance of risk and reward. and helping you plan for future generations. this is "the planning effect" from fidelity.

non-gaming tribes have been left in the dust. wealthy tribes with big casinos make billions, while small tribes struggle in poverty. prop 27 is a game changer. 27 taxes and regulates online sports betting to fund permanent solution to homelessness. while helping every tribe in california. so who's attacking prop 27? wealthy casino tribes who want all the money for themselves support small tribes, address homelessness. vote yes on 27. seen this ad? it's not paid for by california tribes. it's paid for by the out of state gambling corporations that wrote prop 27. it doesn't tell you 90% of the profits go to the out of state corporations. a tiny share goes to the homeless, and even less to tribes. and a big loophole says, costs to promote betting reduce money for the tribes, so they get less. hidden agendas. fine print. loopholes.

prop 27. they didn't write it for the tribes or the homeless. they wrote it for themselves. >> right-wing social media is seizing on the fbi search of mar-a-lago, and the rhetoric is alarming. lock and load, said one user on a forum dedicated to the former president while another post-explicitly called for attorney general merrick garland to be assassinated. but it's not just the unknown fringe promoting civil war and incitement to violence and anti government fervor. right-wing podcaster steven crowder told nearly 2 million followers, today is war. it's just one of dozens of tweets from influential figures, some elected republicans like, marjorie taylor greene who tweeted, defund the fbi. and ron desantis, who says, we

are in a banana republic. john avlon is having a hard time keeping his space face straight. mark sanford is also here with us and s.e. cupp is also with me. john, i know you are laughing. -- right, so, these are the same people, i should meant when you are, laughing that we're going after democrats were saying, this is going to be huge. defund the police. >> there are by my house count seven house democrats who -- [inaudible] and 47 republicans who voted [inaudible] >> now, because the favor is turned -- >> of course, defund law enforcement all day long that. consisting with their political agenda. >> is there any real concern that we should be worried about, having seen what happened in the lead up to january 6th -- >> yes. yes, of course we should. you want to make sure that the tail is wagging the dog in terms of folks on, you know,

donald posting crazy stuff. the real issue is, elected representatives. you might recall when george h. w. bush resigned his membership from the nra, and when they call the fbi jack booted thugs. we are 1 million miles away from that. and i don't expect, you know, the right-wing partisan media ecosystem is unfortunately going to be fanning the flames. but i do hold elected senators and governors and members of congress, they should be held to a higher standard and then fanning the flames of violence in pursuit of partisan gain. which is what many of them are doing. that's a different standard be held to a higher standard. >> i think there are three slices at the apple. you've got a political provocateurs. -- and you have elected officials who these days who are just frankly in survival mode. so at the time that a couple of us spoke out earlier against trump, corcoran and flake or in the senate. it was extinction

that was no longer the case, with people trying to keep their head down. the real folks out there, i was with a guy that his alternator have gone bad, and that was his world, and that's what he was focused on. and i think a lot of folks for whom this was just noise, period. is there frightening rhetoric? yes. but i don't think we should get all that ginned up about the different camps that are sort of throwing a lot of that. >> it's the second slice of the apple you talk about. folks who don't say anything, they're silent, we got here because four, five, six years of no one in leadership, or cable news or anyone with influence over the president, or a maga, did anything to tamp the rhetoric down, did anything to ring the alarm and say, this is bad, and it should stop. trump loves the violent rhetoric. he leaned into it. he promised to lawyers, if you ever got in trouble for going after, you know, his opponents, and he watched with joy, as people, armed, marched to the capitol. he said mike pence probably

deserved it when they chanted, hang mike pence. he is here for it. and no one checked him on it. i'm not surprised we are here. i'm not surprised we'll be here for probably another insurrection, if we loved the first one. and without anyone saying enough -- >> in a position of power. enough, it's gonna get worse. >> the gop, in your mind, when you are looking at it, from 35,000 feet, what has happened to this party? >> it's gotten hijacked. i mean, what you have are a lot of people from government wasn't working, and they've been beaten down by life and by a variety of different factors, and there's always a strong man who comes in the history, and who offers an immediate cure. and he was that guy. the question now is, what do we do about it?

so, i think this underscores, though, how political this moment is. this is not a legal proceeding. i think justice department, in some form or fashion, given the amount of distress that is out, there needs the same something so that the void is not simply fell by trump and others. >> right now, it's being filled with that. so what do they do, john? right now, none of us know exactly what are in those documents, and they're going to be reticent to go there right away. so now, what? >> it's been a day. >> it's been a day. >> the problem is, this speaks to politics on a totally different timeline than the face of justice, so that can be exploited. what i think is more significant, you see members of the public at committee apparently circling about trump tonight, asking him the attention of this. and encouraging him to run -- >> look, this is the victimhood that is sort of part and parcel of trump's, you know, he's ultimately the aggressor and the victim. this is aggressive defensiveness. this is an idea that goes back to, you know, some of the bad

old days, half century ago. republicans who know that donald trump running would be terrible for their part in the midterms, will they stand up? will people think the president will stand up and say, you know what? i got questions and doubts and concerns about this, but i'm not on all in on trump 2024. because the goal is to fuse the feud. now, post the first insurrection, will there be republicans in positions of the spine to stand up and speak clearly and say, no, we're not doing this evil. >> so far we have not seen that, not yet. okay, there is a note. thank you. john avlon, marc sanord, and s. e. cupp. thank you so much for going through all of that. coming up, we're going to change topics and it is something that is been a long time coming, but it is amazing. she doesn't like the word retirement, but serena williams tells the world she is nearing the end of her career in the sport that she has helped redefine. another tennis great, pam shriver, joins me to look at her incredible legacy. that's next. ♪ ♪ ♪

woman tc: my a1c stayed here, it needed to be here. doctor tc: ruby's a1c is down with rybelsus®. man tc: my a1c wasn't at goal, now i'm down with rybelsus®. son tc: mom's a1c is down with rybelsus®. song: a1c down with rybelsus® anncr vo: in a clinical study, once-daily rybelsus® significantly lowered a1c better than the leading branded pill. anncr vo: rybelsus® isn't for people with type 1 diabetes. anncr vo: don't take rybelsus® if you or your family ever had medullary thyroid cancer, or have multiple endocrine neoplasia syndrome type 2,

or if allergic to it. anncr vo: stop rybelsus® and get medical help right away if you get a lump or swelling in your neck, severe stomach pain, or an allergic reaction. anncr vo: serious side effects may include pancreatitis. gallbladder problems may occur. tell your provider about vision problems or changes. anncr vo: taking rybelsus® with a sulfonylurea or insulin increases low blood sugar risk. anncr vo: side effects like nausea, vomiting, and diarrhea may lead to dehydration, which may worsen kidney problems. mom tc: need to get your a1c down? song: a1c down with rybelsus® anncr vo: ask your healthcare provider about rybelsus® today. bubbles bubbles so many bubbles! as an expedia member you earn points on your travels, and that's on top of your airline miles.

so you can go and see... or taste or do absolutely nothing with all those bubbles. without ever wondering if you're getting the most out of your trip. because you are. new astepro allergy. now available without a prescription. astepro is the first and only 24-hour steroid free spray. while other allergy sprays take hours astepro starts working in 30 minutes. so you can... astepro and go. your shipping manager left to “find themself.” leaving you lost. you need to hire. i need indeed. indeed you do. indeed instant match instantly delivers quality candidates matching your job description. visit indeed.com/hire she did not just change the game of tennis, she changed the

world of sport. the goat, greatest of all-time, serena williams is hanging up her racket soon. she told the magazine in an article today, quote, i am here to tell you that i am involving away from tennis towards other things that are important to me. a few years ago, i quietly started serena ventures, a venture capital firm. soon after that, i started a family. i want to go to family. here to discuss her impact on and off the court, espn analyst, pam -- thank you so much for being here, pam. >> pam, let's talk about, which he had set. i guess, when i saw her say this. she had not -- not just for sport but women in particular, women of color and business as well and on social issues. can you give me a sense of how big this is, and why you think judging from her statement, she

has decided to start walking away from tennis? >> i think there are a lot of reasons why. obviously, her age. she will be 41 next month. she's not won a major since 2017. she had a maternity leave. she has made an amazing effort to tie margaret -- she got four major finals after having her child, olympia, her first child. i think if she wants to expand her family, the time is now, and it is hard to do both. i know that frustrates are. she spoke about it so eloquently in her essay, but it is not fair for female athletes who need to call it quits when you are at this age, whereas the men like tom brady. and roger federer can continue to play. there are some things we can control, and there are at the things you can't. but she could control on the tennis court, starting in 1999, when she won her first of 23 majors at 17, winning the

serena slam twice, holding all four major titles twice -- rivalry she had with her sister, four olympic gold medals, i could go on and on. that is why, sarah, as you referred to her, and all of us agree, the g. o. a. t.. >> you have had two experiences. can you give a sense of who this woman is, because we see her on the court, and we see her in the public sphere, but who is she? >> it's funny she's the word evolved, because i think that is really appropriate when you think about sir enough from once she won her first major at 17 do all of the ups and downs and being away from the sport at times because of injury or loss of interests, at times. i think she has a great curiosity to life, fiercely competitive, obviously an immense talent. when you combine everything, the desire, the mental strength, the willingness to -- be on the biggest of stages and

to perform at the highest level, like she has done, for 25 years, is truly remarkable. to think that she started the venture capital fund that will help female companies, especially, it started, her impact really in life is just starting. you don't need to say goodbye to tennis. it is a lifetime sport. she will be playing with her family for a long, long time. >> she can play as long as she wants, really, but maybe not in this kind of intense arena. i do want to quickly mention that she was very open with the fact that she had some serious complications, which he had a first child. she brought that to the four, talking about black women in particular and maternal health. so, she has done a lot of other things than just play a sport, which is incredible, which is done in that sphere as well. >> absolutely, advocating for women in the workplace, no matter your color, but especially as you mention, sara, and advocate for black women and black working women do have better access whether it is

childcare, whether it is to have fair work in the workplace, -- shows that it all, she couldn't to do it all, but not at the major tennis level. let's all look forward to the u.s. open, because there is the route that arthur ashe stadium -- >> we will be ready pam shriver, thank you so much, we will be right back. ♪ got my hair got my head ♪ introducing new one a day multi+. a complete multivitamin plus an extra boost of support for your immunity, brain, and hair, skin & nails. new one a day multi+.

among my patients, i often see them have teeth sensitivity as well as gum issues. does it worry me? absolutely. sensodyne sensitivity & gum gives us the dual action effect that really takes care of both our teeth sensitivity as well as our gum issues. there's no question it's something that i would recommend.