thank you for sticking with me, i will be back tomorrow night. laura coates is sitting in for don lemon tonight, and that show begins right now. hey, laura. >> hey, sara sidner, thanks so much, great show as always, and this is don lemon tonight. i am laura coates sitting in for don. and look, we are learning many more details about the fbi's unprecedented search for documents at former president donald trump's mar-a-lago home. and tonight, a source tells cnn that authorities did not believe that trump and his aides had returned all the documents and other materials that had been taken to mar-a-lago when trump left office.

the documents, as you well know, are the property of the united states government. they don't belong to trump. some 15 boxes of materials were previously returned to the national archives, but apparently, investigators had concerns about whether there was any additional materials, including, perhaps, classified documents and with potential national security implications. and they asked the doj to intervene. the sources also saying that there was suspicion that trump representatives were not being completely truthful with authorities over the course of the investigation. in fact, yesterday, federal agents did remove additional boxes of materials from mar-a-lago. now, trump has a copy of the search warrant, but he is not yet revealed its content. contents. we have a lot to get to tonight. i want to turn right away to cnn senior washington correspondent, pamela brown. pamela, i know you are on the story. you're getting new information tonight about the investigation. what are you learning? >> that's right, laura.

a source familiar says that is part of the fbi's investigation into the former president's handling of possibly classified information, doj investigators subpoenaed the trump organization for surveillance footage of mar-a-lago. this happened after a visit with the fbi, doj officials went to mar-a-lago in june, met with trump representatives down there. after that visit him before the search warrant was executed by the fbi yesterday, the subpoena was issued to the for. i'm told by the source familiar that trump org did comply and hand over some surrounds footage from mar-a-lago. and would i don't know is the timeframe of that. but it is interesting to know note based on what i have been told from a separate source familiar with the investigation that fbi investigators were concerned that trump's representatives for not being fully forthcoming, truthful about the documents that were at mar-a-lago, even after the national archives took those 15 boxes.

there was concern that there but still documents they're at mar-a-lago that could be classified that belong to the governments hands. so, that is why, i am told, the fbi took this extraordinary, unprecedented step to execute the search warrant at a former president's private reticence resident and also because of the concern from national security implications, laura. >> it makes sense. and the idea if i just personally personally trust the person to give the muscle -- if i go in unannounced, if i don't think i have all the materials, but i am still curious as to why they doubt stop that. what may have changed, pamela? you are also learning that congressman scott perry's cell phone was actually seized by the fbi. this is a sitting member of congress. what can you tell us about that? >> this is another big step from the fbi, seizing his cell phone. he released a statement saying that three fbi agents came out to him while he was with his family, and seized his phone. he says in a statement that the fbi had not reached out to his lawyers. but my colleague caitlin

polantz has told from a source that this is part of the justice department's inspector general probe, looking at jeffrey clark, the former doj official who tried to help trump overturn the election results. jeffrey clark is closely aligned to scott perry, this member of congress, so this is all wrapped up into that investigation, but it is unusual because the inspector general typically investigates doj and possible wrongdoing within the department of justice and, again, scott perry is a sitting member of congress but we have reporting that he helped jeffrey clark. he was in the effort to overturn election results. we had heard testimony from the january six committee that he sought a pardon from donald trump, something he had denied. so it is really interesting. this is all separate from the other investigation we are talking about, laura. >> pamela, when it rains, it seems to pour. >> that is right. -- >> thank you so much. i want to bring in cnn senior legal analyst, elie honig, a former federal prosecutor and

asha rangappa, a former faith fbi's federal federal agent. welcome eli honig and asha rangappa. let me put your name first -- asha, first. there we go, everyone. -- investigators were at mar-a-lago just in june. they even talk to trump. now, we're learning from authorities that there are suspicions that they're holding over materials and that now hand over everything. does that explain why things escalated from the time they were there to the time they are now essentially entering and executing a search warrant? >> it's a start, laura. i would say it partially explains it. the question i have is exactly the question you raised, though. it is one thing to be suspicious. it's one thing to suspect you are being lied to her or documents are being withheld. it's another thing to be able to prove it. and to prove that those documents being withheld are sufficiently serious, sufficiently, potentially dangerous to justify a search warrant. and let's be clear, when we talk about justifying a search

warrant. all three of us know that legally, all you have to do is show probable cause that a prime is committed and get just a sign of. that is a big deal, that is not nothing. but there is also a political reality here. the doj is going to have to show some absolute, irreplaceable necessity in order to justify this on a larger sort of political and practical scale. >> asha, that is obviously consideration, right? the idea that there is probable cause. then there is that idea that, look, you have to know what you are doing, dotting the let her eyes, crossing the letter t's there must be questions raised up and down levels of the chain of command that says that you are executing a search warrant, where, and on whose residents? that will be part of the equation, but the question for many people's, look, we'll are the documents that they were seeking. i keep saying, these can't possibly be snowglobes that are taken from the oval office at one point in time. that would be ridiculous, if that were the case. what do you think, and what did they believe the documents may actually contain or, at at least the category of

information? >> yeah, so i think one missing piece from this, from what i understand, laura, is that either by policy or practice, the fbi does not issue subpoenas to retrieve classic classified information from people who are not authorized to have it. i think because a subpoena may further expose that classified information to other unauthorized individuals. so they are faced with this choice between either the person voluntarily giving the documents back which i think most normal people will do when the fbi comes knocking or the department of justice -- or to execute a search warrant. and i have to wonder if they were just caught in that dilemma, which brings us to your second question, which is, what was the nature of these documents? and i just go to, one of the kinds of classified top secret documents that would end up in the white house, and specifically in the president possession of the president of the united states? these are the highest

government secrets that we have, and they are secrets that are of great interest to foreign governments, including from friendly governments and of course, to hostile governments and if they are in an unsecured location that has a lot of traffic, with people have been arrested before for trespassing, with potential ties to foreign intelligence, as someone was in 2019, then i think the government would really have a very urgent need to get those documents. i think the surveillance footage could be one or two things. one is to confirm whether these documents were only at in the location that trump said they were, or, number two, whether they had some intelligence that these were attempted to be accessed by someone and we're trying to verify that. >> here is the thing, and ali elie, as asha made the point, if you believe that there is sensitive let alone classified information that might implicate national security concerns, do you know that in june, and then come in august and say, i will be back to get them?

that is one of the timeline concerns i have here is to what would have been the delay? we don't know with the cause of that is, but that is just a point of questioning the people have to hone in on. the idea of, why would there be a delay if you believe that there was something there? and then again, it was and an unannounced search that happened. i want to ask you because mitch mcconnell, the minority leader of the senate put out a statement saying that the attorney general merrick garland that he should have already provided answers about what led to the search. now what would you make of that? garland came out and was fully transparent and give all the information that the public desire to our hearts content, what would be your take then? >> look, selfishly, laura, me, myself, like everybody else, i want to know more. >> i am nosy as well. [laughs] >> yeah, exactly, we are the same that way. but, it would be a huge mistake for merrick garland to come out

and start making statements about here is why we searched mar-a-lago, and who respects. first of all, strategically, that is a terrible move for any prosecutor or investigator to do. you don't show your opponent your hand in poker. you don't share your playbook with the opposing coach in the nfl. you want to maintain secrecy, strategically, so he can build the investigation so that people don't get tipped off, so people tend to strike destroy documents, et cetera, that is a reason number. one reason number two is, you are trying to protect the rights of the individual who may be under suspicion, whether that is donald trump, or anybody else. imagine if the attorney general got behind a podium tomorrow and said, okay, everyone, okay, mitch mcconnell, you want to know what's our probable cause is let me weigh it out for you. we have this evidence we have that evidence. and that leads us to believe that donald trump committed to following federal crimes. they do allege that, we have not seen it, but they have know for a fact that they allege that in the affidavit. if merrick garland got up behind the podium into that watch the outrage from mitch mcconnell, and that applies to, by the way, any, person who is a suspect -- democrat, republican, famous for us, and not famous person.

so, is a vital interest that doj protects by its silence. >> that was part of the outrage surrounding former director comey did. the idea of coming out and undermining the -- in a sense, getting ahead of the scheme, in terms of the doj. i think ag loretta lynch did not know it would be happening at the time. asha, you are with the fbi as well. i was wondering, are we going to be able to see this affidavit? do you think, in any role -- i mean, obviously, trump has a copy of the search warrant. we don't yet have the full warrant, we have not seen it, but i am wondering, do you expect to be able to have the that released? and why or why not? >> you know, i have my doubts, laura, because this is a national security investigation that involves classified information. and it may be that some of the probable cause is coming from sensitive sources or methods, we don't know. i think the fact that the counter intelligence and export

control section of doj was -- the officials from this division came and visited trump in june, tells me that this involves a lot of sensitive information that has already been reported as well. and we don't know to what extent the probable cause is coming from sources that they would not be able to reveal publicly. so that would be my were here. i think that the question is, will merrick garland actually bring charges. because obviously, if he indites trump, eventually, we will see the whole story, right? we will see exactly what the probable cause was. with some of the evidence was. but i think that if the goal here was to actually retrieve the documents, and punishing trump the second area this could happen a national security investigation, where national security interests trump the criminal interest -- it is possible we may not see criminal charges. i think that we need to contemplate that possibility as well. >> i think what you said is so important. it requires a step back. because i think so often,

people are singularly focused and believed believe that's an indictment and or a conviction are the only pursuits by those who are trying to get property back, trying to prosecute execute a search warrant, and it very well me the goal was to retrieve classified data and have it in a secure location. that might be the facts, asha and elie, but of course the appetite at the court of public opinion and the electorate will be widely different if the expectation is, if the only way for accountabilities to indictment. we will talk more about this ahead. i've a feeling we will meet again, all of you. welcome to that firm, that was a wonderful experience. thank you so. much love seeing both of you. multiple investigations -- love -- everyone into trump's behavior are swirling, and who knows what and what will matter most? i'm glad you asked a former watergate prosecutor and trump administration insider next. >> well, the committee doesn't know anything about this. i was surprised as everyone else.

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prosecutor and olivia troye, former homeland security and covid task force adviser to the former vice president, mike pence. good to see both of you here today. i want to bring -- with you nick, because i want your expertise in here particular. a search like this to happen on a former president, it could not possibly be taken lightly. i wonder, what stands out to you, and are you seeing any clues about where this all might be heading? >> it's very hard to see what this is about. this source that you are referring to, we don't know who that sources. it is not a government source. there are two sets to the question.

it is either the trump people that received the search warrant or it is the government. my sense is that the government is not leaking disinformation. the trump side as every reason to paint and a different picture of what is going on, and they could correct a and two seconds, by simply releasing this search warrant that they received. it is not as good as the affidavit, with details for the basis of probable cause, the crime committed and the location of the evidence proving a crime. but, it would certainly go a long way to showing us what kinds of documents were being searched for, and where those documents were? anything else beyond that is really speculation. the best i can tell. >> nick, on that point, the former president has a copy of that search warrant. he is the reason that we even know as search was even conducted yesterday. whether it's from the fbi, was not from the doj, would you think is the motivation for not releasing it? >> i think it is because there is information on there that goes beyond this idea that this had to do with classified

information that trump took with him when he left the white house. do not forget, that was 18 months ago. for the search warrant to have validity, the information in it cannot be still. you have to have probable cause that is up to date and should be within the last 30 days. somebody in the trump orbit had basically rattled him out, provided information as a source to the fbi, that is included in that affidavit. now what exactly he said about the crimes that were committed, and what that documentation was that proves that crime? we just don't know. i am totally convinced that it is not just his national security issue of documents coming out of the white house. >> i am going to guess here, olivia, go out on a limb and say that, mike pence is no longer in the trump orbit, so to speak, and that he was not the person who may have tipped someone off about something. i could be wrong, and i would be wrong at that point, olivia, but your former boss, vice president mike pence, tweeted his concern over the fbi's

unlawful search. i wonder what you make of his response and his concerns? >> i was actually disappointed to see that because i think he was just feeling the undermining of government institutions, which he saw firsthand and the trump administration that within. i think it is unfortunate that he went out of his way, in many ways, two feet into the sort of right wing machine talking points, which had been executed like clockwork in the past 24 hours, as we have seen. especially given the fact that he knows how dangerous it is, once you feel that fire. he lived it, and it almost led to his own death. that is ridiculous. >> one of the things to paraphrase and reference that he is talking about the idea that almost we have seen throughout the day, this whataboutism philosophy. we have seen it throughout the course of this year, last year, six years ago and beyond. nick, on this point, in terms of who knows what and the coordination of things, we cannot look at this in a vacuum, there is an active january six committee.

if it's not about classified materials, which could be serious enough, some people think it might have to do with the generous six actual instruction. congresswoman zoe lofgren, who actually sits on that committee was on with walt blitzer earlier today, and she expressed her surprised by the search, like everyone else. she also, listen to this, she makes this point. >> this as your general sixth committee, congresswoman, she had any information about trump 's handling of documents or the department of justice? >> i don't believe that we have a lot of information about classified documents. the focus of the committee are the events leading up to january six and all of the plot that occurred. if you stole documents and took them to mar-a-lago, that is really not within the scope of the january six committee, per se. >> nick, what do you make of the idea of the committee trying to maintain their independence from the justice department? they had a bit of a rough at

one point, where the doj was asking for what they had. they negotiated what they would release. most recently, they're gonna give them what they have, but what do you make of the existence of these parlow investigations, prudent or illusory? >> this is what happened in watergate. it was the exact same thing. but keep mine, with respect to the investigation, it is a one way street. in other words, the department of justice is not going to give anything to the committee. all of that material is protected by grand jury secrecy to maintain the integrity of the investigation and to protect individuals who have not yet been charged with a crime.

the committee, on the other hand, is a much more public form and much more public investigation. she initially, like in the watergate case, all of the information that the watergate committee gathered roundup being brought to our office. we did not bring information to their office, so this is not unusual. it is not unusual to have two parallel investigations that have different objectives, as you have here. that is a tension that will exist. well in the watergate situation, detention was exacerbated by the fact that the committee there actually provided immunity grants to certain people. here, the committee has not immunized anybody. they have basically lifted to department justice to do that. i think this is all being done just the way we would've expected to be done, and it is being done the right way. >> that is both reassuring and also don't need to talk about history repeating itself and that particular way, nick. thank you. olivia, i want to ask this question. we know that secretary of state,

the former secretary of state, mike pompeo, testified -- lofgren said that he did answer questions, and yet, he's not seem to be politics at the door. he actually called the search of mar-a-lago dangerous. as well happened at mar-a-lago make it difficult and harder, perhaps, for republicans to try to distance themselves from what happened on general six? >> i think it absolutely does. i think from what i understand, pompeo went in and did cooperate, as the reporting suggested, he was there unanswered questions. he was there for a while. i think you'd be able to speak to a number of things, right? my own curiosity is what were the discussions on the 25th amendment, and what extent, and why? why were they so concerned, and what were they concerned about?

i only say that because i am also curious to see if any of these documents of what's going on here comes at the play, when we talk about potentially foreign adversaries or foreign assets getting their holds, if it is indeed related to classified documents. another thing that i want to say, what is really upsetting about watching the republican party and what they are doing here in terms of the disinformation machine in many ways, is that they are forgetting that sources, methods and assets, they take a long time to develop, and they should be very concerned about this. because there are lives on the ground, potentially, that could be implicated. the loss could be in danger. these are sons and daughters, mothers and fathers and serve our country, and this is not a thing to be taken lightly. if it is classified information that can come into the wrong hands. >> such an important point. it is all about national security, and it is just an important point to underscore tenfold. olivia, nick, thank you so much.

>> thank you. >> look, they are pushing him to announce a 2024-way hospital. we talk about donald trump, that is. i wonder why trump allies think the fbi searched on trump's home might actually help him win. we'll talk about why it they think that. next.

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let's just say it. this fbi search of a mar-a-lago resort, it is landing like a political meteor. and with the dust beginning to clear, cnn is now learning that some trump allies are pushing him to move his expected announcement of a 2024 bid a political bit more. trump ally lindsey graham talking about his conversations with trump just today. >> i talked to him twice today, and i told him that, you know, there are legal systems in the country that you are not and

they'll yourself of. it -- time will tell what is going on. i think president trump is determined now more than ever straight in this country up. i think president trump is going to push through this. >> i wonder if he is. joining me now is cnn political commentator scott jennings and former white house obama official, we'll jawando, he is the author of the book, my seven black fathers. i'm glad you are both here. because i'm just wondering here, what world we live in politically, where an fbi execution of a search warrant might boost your political chances? where are we right now? >> with this particular politician, donald trump, you described it accurately. i will get a view among republicans, especially people who really support donald trump and that is that in 2016, in 2020, during his presidency, he was under constant siege, that there was constant attempt to harass him using a legal system,

and it always comes up short. but joe biden in the 30s, they are looking to do the same thing again to try to stabilize destabilized trump before 2024. that is the feeling. look, i was somebody that the committee of january six and out of the hearings and everything was happening in the world that trump was actually facing headwinds. that there were republicans thinking, hey, maybe we should move on from this guy. well i have seen the last 24 hours is everybody snap back to defensive mode over donald trump because they don't like who is coming after him here. the perception is that it is joe biden and merrick garland coming after donald trump. yeah, i think there has been a huge backlash on this. and frankly, that's why i think it's pretty crazy that we have not heard from the department of justice in the past 24 hours exactly about what's going on. >> i wonder from your perspective, well, that's the republican version of it as well, and that's and how it is viewed from the democratic side -- is this likely to be a catalyst for people to turn out, to be

more invested, to lean in more? >> i think you will see that it depends on your perspective. i think it is likely to motivate people on both sides. look, as democrats, we have been having a pretty good week and a half. we've enjoyed the passage in the senate, at least, of landmark, historic climate legislation and tax legislation and health care legislation, one of the osama bin laden top aides. a whole lot of things happen that are good. passing health care for people that needed, former first responders and the like. this obviously wasn't politically orchestrated. because you would have liked to ride that out. i think as someone who has worked at the white house and i submitted many things to presidential records and has been warned about it, as a lawyer myself, i think it depends on your perspective here. but i can tell you this. that i don't think the search

would have happened unless they think there is a reason to do it, and i think they are following procedure to the t, and not saying anything because that is what you do and in an investigation. don't say anything and let the investigation play out. >> i will tell you what, if they did not dot their letter t's, dot there let your eyes -- dot their t's, got a whole different issue here -- if they did not got their i's and cross their t's, it would be a whole different ball game. -- congressman jim jordan to try to bring merrick garland before the judiciary committee at some point and to investigate further what is going on, but you also have this from another member of congress, this time, elise stefanik, who tweeted, quote, if the fbi can raid a u.s. president, imagine what they can do to you. first of all, this logic to me is always odd because most americans, one, are not handling or mishandling classified documents. but also, scott, maybe americans all the time are having search warrants

executed. that is what happens. that is not necessarily routine, that happens every single day, but it happens across this country. so why is this comparison being made? is it a valid talking point to you? >> i actually, think it is a bit of a shallow talking point. i've seen a lot of people make it today. i think the more valid question is when you just raised as you are coming back to me about crossing t's and dotting i's. why would we think that the justice department or the fbi good mess up here? oh because they have in the past because as it relates to donald trump. there are well documented problems within the fbi and some of the warrants issued for trumps people. to me, that is what fueling a lot of the skepticism about republicans are now. you say you're going to mar-a-lago, and it is the reporting is it's about documents and paperwork. and now you've got lawyers on tv saying, well, obviously there is something else and maybe it has to january six and they just don't want to admit that. given what happened in the past -- that's why.

and i know it's not normal to comment on investigations. but given what's happened in the past and given what's been documented, to me, because he's a former president, there is some transparency here that would reassure the american people that letter tees were crossed, let her eyes were doctored, procedures were followed -- because right now we don't know the nothing other than what donald trump said, on the record, which is that the fbi came to his house and took his stuff. >> at that point, again, somebody could come on the show and document the search -- but will, in all this combined, you talked about with the democrats wanted to ride in terms of their successful wave over the past several weeks, we know what happened, of course, in the primaries and also the ballot initiative in kansas. there is a lot of trajectory talked about on the polar coaster that democrats are set to lose the majority in one of the chambers of congress. now, i have been on these rollercoasters before, i am not a fan of them, no one really is. and yet, i do wonder if they

are predictable, but also, it is all that happens right now, make the midterms that much more unpredictable? >> i think so. i think we are off script here. normally, if you look at the arc of history, the incumbent president loses seats in the midterms. that is what happens. i think that is the norm, but we are not in the norm. donald trump is not normal. i think everybody will agree that the situation is not normal. it is unprecedented to have a former president home searched. i think it was clear that he had documents that he took that should not have. what's in them, but they said with the investigation is about, we don't know. merrick garland, former federal judge, nominated to the supreme court, is very careful and has been described as a micromanager. i know this was viewed. the question is, what happens,, what does this do to the polls, i think it will motivate you, depending on what's news station he turned you tune into, what the spin says i. i think it can go either way. i know the january 6th

committee has enlightened a lot of people about hearing from former trump staffers and republicans about what they thought happened, and why data they thought our democracy was at stake and a coup being attempted. people are going to have to decide based on what information they are receiving. but i think, to say exactly how this is going to go, it is too early to know and i don't think we will necessarily know how it plays out. >> look, the big lottery was already won about two weeks ago now. we don't have any gambling left in us for the moment, but you know what? we will keep talking about it. scott, will, nice to see, you appreciate it. >> thank you. >> thank you, laura. >> we will keep bringing you new information on the fbi search at mar-a-lago as it comes in tonight, but also coming into cnn, primary election results from wisconsin, minnesota and and vermont and connecticut. stay with us.

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in america, and cnn's following several major races in key states. the votes are coming in, so let's get right to it. he rode me now, cnn political analyst and new york times political correspondent jonathan martin, who is the coauthor of this will not passed. jonathan, the big race tonight is in wisconsin, or as they say for minnesota, wisconsin, wisconsin. with the gop gubernatorial primary service, as you know, the latest run in the proxy war between trump and, of course, vice president mike pence. i am wondering, how do expect this all to go tonight in wisconsin? >> you are right, all eyes are on the governor race because it is a really important proxy war between trump and pence, in one of the most important states, i should add, on the presidential map. wisconsin is one of those key battleground states that every four years, we see people spending a lot of time. you can see on a screen there

that trump endorsed tim michels, who is a wealthy businessman, enjoying a narrow lead. there are still about 40% of the vote out, but right now, he does have a narrow advantage over the pence backed candidate, former lieutenant governor, rebecca kleefisch. if trump gets a victory there by backing tim tim michels, i think it will be important feather in his cap. i will add one more note, laura, and that is that trump also endorsed further down the ballot and wisconsin to unseat the sitting speaker of the wisconsin state assembly, robin voss, who is a powerhouse in the state capital there, who won transgression when it comes to trump, at least, is that he's not been assertive enough for the former president to try to overturn results at the last election. because of that sin, sharpest to unseat him in the primary. >> think about that, not being asserted enough. there is a script that one must follow.

also in wisconsin, jonathan, you have a republican senator, ron johnson, up for reelection, and he's facing minimal competition on his side. you already see with the projected winner on that. there are a lot of questions about his efforts to push the fake elector plot, leading up to january six. now, the democrats for their part and wisconsin, they can actually pick up the seat with a man named mandela barnes, who is lieutenant governor in wisconsin. i wonder what you make of what will happen there. there will be another race about the truth of the election. with up about here again? >> i think, yes. the 2020 election will be central this election because of what ron johnson has said and done since then. look, this race is also important for the future to. if ron johnson does win reelection, and it's gop takes

control the senate, he is going to be one of the leading figures and the senate investigating joe biden. this is a really important race for the future of the senate. it is also an important race for control the senate. there is basically two seats right now, gop held seats on the senate map. one is pennsylvania, and one is wisconsin, where democrats feel like they have a chance to pick up a seat. i think in wisconsin, against ron johnson, look, it is a really evenly divided state. there is history of closed presidential election there, and you could see a very competitive race for the senate this year between mandela barnes and ron johnson. real quick here, mandela barnes had a contested primary up until two weeks ago, when all the candidates running against him dropped out, clearing his path against ron johnson. it is a fascinating race. young, african american, fairly

progressive, although he shifted more to the middle here recently running against one of the more conservative, trumpian firebrands in the senate in this key battleground state in the heart of the midwest. we will be spending a lot of time writing and talking and thinking about the wisconsin race this fall. laura? >> but on the issues what you said, i'm from minnesota, it is the true heart of the midwest. i will be that alone and let this be about wisconsin, momentarily. thank you, jonathan. >> no love hershey's, laura. >> i love the cheese curds. but you can tell a minnesotan with the heart of the midwest is and not include minnesota, don't you know? oh gosh, all right, trump allies are enraged, not engaged, they might be engaged, i don't know. but they are enraged about the

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so, there is this phrase that keeps going over and over again in my hat. it came from former speaker to house, newt gingrich. >> if 30 fbi agents can take over the house of a former president of the u.s. and probable candidate for the president, what can they do for you? >> there is something that has been bother me about the statement, among other things. it is not the first or last time i have heard it, or that we will ever hear it, but it is because it does not actually require one's imagination. it requires you to actually be aware of the reality. every single day in this country, law enforcement executes search warrants on residences, businesses everywhere they have probable cause to believe that evidence of a crime may exist. sometimes, they get it right. sometimes, they do get it wrong.

but if the criteria has been met, and a judge has been convinced, the warrant is not only issued but executed. on everyday people, by the way, whose names have never found a way on any kind of the ballot. then, the novelty is not that it happened but that happened to a former president. the outrage that has followed seem to suggest that it should not ever happened to a former president because of political optics. the uptick that it may be perceived as politically motivated. is that the new standard in the nation of laws we are supposed to live in? post-watergate, perhaps the one thing the nation could agree on was that no one is above the law. now, i was took that phrase to mean that you would be subject in the same laws and perhaps inconveniences everyone else faces.

your title, whether it is current or former, it's not some temporal of immunity or a guarantee of special treatment, if you broke the law, you ought to be treated like everybody else who broke the law. is the new standard now that as long as you've been a politician or you might one day consider running to be one again, not that you are above the law, no, that is not it. it is just that you cannot ever be investigated or searched or questioned or charged. okay, i think i get it now. no one is above the law, but politics surely is. next, why did investigators search mar-a-lago? we are getting new details of what made them so suspicious.

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