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sh slifer. but a photo on the account matched a photo id of the suspect. you can always listen to our podcast. go to cnn.com/podcast or any of the major platforms. just search for anderson cooper 360. the news continues. let's hand it over to sara let's hand it over to sara sidner and "cnn tonight." -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com i am sara sidner and this is "cnn tonight." we begin the breaking news. an astonishing new report by "the washington post," the new citing people familiar with the search of the president's mar-a-lago home report that classified documents relating to nuclear weapons were among the items fbi agents sought when they went to donald trump's property on monday. the post says experts in classified information say the unusual search underscores the deep concern among government officials about the types of information they thought could
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be located there. "post" sources did not offer additional details about what type of information the agents were seeking, such as whether it involves weapons belonging to the united states or some other nation, nor did it say whether any documents were recovered as part of their search. cnn is reaching out to donald trump and his representatives for comment. but this adds a whole new level to a day that was already extraordinary, as the attorney general of the united states announced the doj has asked the judge to unseal the mar-a-lago search warrant and property receipt, both of which donald trump did receive. i want to bring in cnn national security analyst juliet kei yam. she served at the department of homeland security under president obama. welcome to the show. >> thanks for having me. >> let's start with this. there are so many questions right now. and this is a bombshell. if "the post" reporting is correct that this had something
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to do with documents relating to nuclear weapons. but if it's not something like codes, which i assume would be expired by now, what could they possibly be going after? what could he have in his possession that's this sensitive? >> yeah, so, it's a great question. "the post" reporters are some of the best national security reporters out there. and they have strong sourcing. so, we should assume and have confidence that some of the material -- some, we don't know what percentage -- were trying to be obtained by the fbi. so, just putting that -- so, that, we know. the other thing we know is that the division responsible at doj for the search essentially, the legal division, is a division within the national security division of doj. it's called the counterintelligence and export control division. that sounds wonky and not relevant. it is quite relevant. expert control is about the
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possession of materials related to national security, whether you're going to sell them, whether you're keeping them, whether you were going to toss them out the window does not matter. it has to do with the possession of national security papers or whatever else it could be. we know those two facts. so, there's lots of speculation now. so, i could put that in perspective. the other is the range of possibilities at this stage. i don't want people to get all breathless right now because we don't know what's in it. here's the range of possibilities, that donald trump was in possession of information related to an enemy and either didn't -- and i'm not going to get into the why did donald trump retain them because we don't know yet. and he's got really sort of -- >> only he knows that. >> he's a careless -- he's a careless person. he never took his job seriously. so, if you're that enemy and you are worried that donald trump has those, you're worried what's
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he going to do with it. so, that could incite a national security problem that the biden administration has to deal with. the second possibility is nuclear information, not coding, just information about the weapons, about where they're stored, about their capabilities of an ally, that too is a problem because the allies will be untrustworthy of what they share with us. and once again, it's a problem for the biden administration if this is true. the third and potentially the worse case scenario is that it's information about the united states' arsenal. and once again, just showing trump's dereliction of duty, his inability to protect us from enemies foreign and domestic. if it is or information where they're stored, their capabilities, what's working, what's not -- as president, he would certainly know if there were challenges within our nuclear arsenal. and whether he wanted to retain them because he just likes it or was going to do something with
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it, we don't know. so, in my expert opinion, that's the range of possibilities. so, people can understand that we're still not there yet. but none of it is good. i'll say that. >> but, you know that range is also terrifying to some degree. >> yeah. >> just listening to you discuss what this could be. and, again, we need to make clear, we don't know exactly what it is. and we don't know whether or not the fbi was able to obtain those records. but we are hearing this reporting. and as you said, t "washington post" has a lot of inside information from their sources and haven't been wrong much. so, juliet, please stick around. let us right now bring in former assistant attorney general tom dupree and former fbi counter espionage treater peter strzok. peter, i want to go to you right now. the question is, if this was a regular person -- and i put that
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lightly, i guess, but not a former president, someone not in a high position in our society -- how would they be treated if they took something that was sensitive enough for the fbi to go in and take it from their home? >> thais great question because there are a number of former high-ranking officials where -- i was present on search warrants that were executed to recover classified information, and they did not have the benefit of a negotiation with the department of justice and receiving a subpoena to return the material. attorney general garland made it very clear, i think, during his speech that they did approach this case differently simply because it was the president. and i think that's appropriate. we have never had a president subject to a search warrant before in our nation's history. and whatever the practice in the past of the department of justice when it comes to things like recovering classified information, i think attorney general garland laid out a very clear case that they took a measured approach, that they
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attempted to obtrusive means, and only after they were able to gain or recover the information that they thought was there, perhaps they had an additional tip that there was information that was not then turned over. only after they tried those steps did they go through the significant step of getting the search warrant on the president. given this "washington post" article, it should put to bed any amount of concern from anybody across the spectrum about whether or not this is a serious matter. as julia said, the national -- the nuclear secrets whether of our nation or of others, are among the most guarded and most classified of any secrets in the government. it's entirely appropriate, if this is the material that was recovered, it's entirely appropriate they they ultimately had to go to a search warrant to obtain that information. >> tom dupree, you just heard from peter strzok talking about there was potentially a tip. and there's reporting that somebody tipped off the fbi, the doj, that there were more
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documents and sensitive documents that had been left and not handed over by trump or his attorneys. if that is the case, then how guarded was this really sensitive information if someone knew what they had that wasn't the president? >> right. it doesn't exactly appear that it was fort knox over there. and the last thing the world, anyone, would want is just random individuals pawing through sensitive nuclear information. look, i think "the post" reporting dispels some of the mystery that's been swirling around these events since monday. it explains why the justice department felt such a sense of urgency. i think there are fair questions raised about why on earth you execute a search warrant on a former president in his own home, et cetera, et cetera, this helps explaps it. if that's what they were going for, that explains why they couldn't go the ordinary traditional route of negotiation, why they couldn't afford to wait for another subpoena, and why they had to
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make the extraordinary decision to send law enforcement into the president's house to seize this material and this information. >> juliet, can you give us a sense of what this is going to be like? and peter, i'll also ask you this. for those that went in, for those that jumped through all the hoops, they did go to a judge, but even before then, we heard from former president trump and some of those surrounding him that, like, we had a great relationship. we had a great relationship. i don't know why they did this. what does this tell us about why they did this? it sounds like there was some lying going on. >> oh, yeah, absolutely. and so, one of this is like, we just don't know if this was a carelessness. i tend to think this was more intentional at this stage only because donald trump did give up some materials. he did give up some records. we know that. we know that other boxes were confiscated. so, why were these materials -- which, once again, we don't know what percentage of the materials
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involve these nuclear secrets. and we don't know if there's one country that is particularly interested in. we know he has a strange relationship with north korea. the north korean nuclear issue is a big one obviously for our national security. so, we simply don't know at this stage. but he clearly was willing to give up some pool of materials and not these. so, from an investigatory perspective, even espionage if i were a spy, is, okay, why are you willing to give up this set and not? and that's where the motivation is going to go? i just want to say one thing also. for three days, we -- we had to hear a political app aratus -- and i'm only saying this because it's related to the story of the day -- defend donald trump and challenge the fbi. that likely resulted in some violence today. and so everyone needs to take a deep breath because if you are
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supporting donald trump or throwing the fbi under the bus, trust me. this isn't getting better. this story is not getting better for donald trump. it is only getting worse. we don't know what it looks like. but this story is i believe because of the reporters has any foundation, there's going to be no justification whether it was nuclear materials of an enemy or, as i said, worse case scenario, of us. >> juliet, we're going to get to some of that and some of what we've been hearing over the past 72 hours. there's really disturbing attacks on the fbi. peter, i do want to ask you about the rank and file here. and those attacks and what you think that has done after they have gone in on this extremely sensitive mission, that they had to have known was going to have blow back at some point. do you think they were expecting this? and were you happy with what ag garland said about those attacks against the rank and file?
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>> well, i think, you know, the fbi, along with the department of justice and the rest of the executive branch, went through four years of the trump administration. so, they're clearly familiar with the attacks that he began when he was running for president, talking about the corrupt fbi investigation of hillary clinton and that criticism remained undebated, firing official after official after official. so, i certainly think while agents and investigators were prepared for it, it's never welcome. people go in and they put their head down and they look at the job in front of them and they try and protect and defend the american people and the constitution every day. but that noise is in the background. the thing that's changed now. we had a gunman attack the fbi office in cincinnati after the execution of this search warrant, when you had senators talking about the fbi may be planting evidence, when you have all these pro-trump supporters saying things essentially like, this is war. this is the beginning of a civil war. encouraging violence. so, it's not just the vocal rhetoric. we now have people physically
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attacking fbi offices i think as a direct result you can draw a line to that immediate response from trump and his supporters immediately following that search. so, we absolutely have to dial down the rhetoric. i think as an fbi employee, it's one thing if you're being targeted or harassed by the right wing media or by the president or former president. it's another thing entirely if you have to look over your shoulder and look for odd vehicles as you're driving into work every day. and that's something that's absolutely different now and it marks a troubling, emergent trend. >> peter, we are going to get to all that in just a bit, what you were just talking about. thank you so much for your expertise, juliet. our coverage of this stunning new reporting on the search at mar-a-lago, including a reported search for nuclear weapons documents continues in just a bit when i will talk to former director of national intelligence james clapper.
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we're following the breaking news and new details that the fbi was searching for classified documents related to nuclear weapons at president trump's mar-a-lago resort. this report comes from sources who spoke with ""the washington post"." they did not say whether these potential documents were recovered. obviously this news possesses major questions about national security. and so i want to bring in national security expert, former director of national intelligence, james clapper. james clapper, thank you so much for being here. >> well, thanks for having me, sara. >> in hearing this latest news, i think there are a lot of jaws that dropped certainly in my sphere. what is your biggest concern after hearing this reporting from "the post"? this may have been about trying to take back documents that had to do with nuclear weapons that were inside the former president's residence.
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>> well, sara, when this story first broke about the search in mar-a-lago and i was asked what would be the range of classified information that's conceivably stored there, and i speculated that, you know, nuclear weapons-related information, you know, would kind of top the range, the holiest of holy. but i doubted it because i thought -- i thought even donald trump would protect those kind of secrets. well, apparently that's not the case. now, having said that, we don't know, as juliet said in your last segment, exactly what we're talking about here, whether this is foreign information on foreign nuclear weapons or the worst case, as juliet said, our own systems. and potentially, this is quite dangerous.
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if, for example, there are deficiencies, maintenance issues, logistics issues, training issues, both with our minutemen, ground-based intercontinental ballistic missile force, or with the submarine-launched missile force, that's very, very dangerous to national security just to have that kind of material just kind of laying around. now, the mind runs wild here. for me, what on earth was the motivation for prolonging this kind of data from the white house into a completely unsecured area like mar-a-lago? and that, you know, again, the imagination can run wild here as to what the motivation might have been. >> we did hear in the last couple of days and on this show from a couple of white house spokespeople who came out and said, look, you know, we were there and saw carelessness when it came to donald trump dealing with some of the documents.
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they weren't sure if they were confidential and highly classified documents, but there was a sort of carelessness by which he dealt with these. whether it is carelessness, whether it is trying to hold onto something as a souvenir, if you will, or whether it is more nefarious, does it matter if it was found inside of his home as to why he had it? does that matter legally? >> it really doesn't. whatever nmotivation was, you know, you find yourself almost hoping this was carelessness and that there wasn't some more nefarious motivation here. was there, for example -- and i'm really going out on a limb -- you know, some prospect for some kind of sweetheart deal with putin? and, again, the mind races as to what the motivation is. but your point is well taken. it really doesn't matter.
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the fact is that sensitive, classified information is outside authorized areas and being stored apparently fairly loosely at mar-a-lago. and without a lot of oversight or insight into who's in and out of that -- of his residence. >> can you give me a sense of when there are documents like this -- and let's just use what "the post" is reporting -- that these might be related to nuclear weapons. what does that look like in normal times? how are those things stored and kept and safeguarded very root
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because there was a tip administer according to reporting. this is really serious stuff to say the very least, and i thank you for coming onto the show to
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give us insight into all this. >> thanks, sara. all right, tonight we're also watching for trump's legal response to merrick garland, who now wants the american public to see the fbi mar-a-lago search warrant after trump spent this week calling so much attention to the matter. the attorney general's very public message, that is coming up next. o to vroom.com, scroll through thousands of cars. then, tap to buy. that's it. no sales speak, no wasted time. go to vroooom.com and pick your favorite.
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transparency. that's what donald trump and his allies have clamored for. and now the attorney general, today, is offering the former president exactly what he asked for. >> the department filed the motion to make public the warrant and receipt in light of the former president's public confirmation of the search, the surrounding circumstances, and the substantial public interest in this matter. first, i personally approved the decision to seek a search warrant in this matter. the department does not take such decision lightly. where possible, it is standard practice to seek less intrusive means as an alternative to a search zand to narrowly scope ay search that is undertaken. >> a judge says the justice department has until 3:00 p.m. eastern tomorrow to inform the court if trump's lawyers will
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support the unsealing or object to it. former assistant attorney general tom dupree and former fbi counter espionage chief peter strzok are both back with me. thank you for sticking around, gentlemen. >> thank you. >> i am curious from you, peter, about what just happened today. i mean "the washington post" reporting is a jaw dropper. but so was this press conference. have you ever seen something like this from the a.g. on a case? >> well, i've certainly seen it on -- never on a case about a former president. that's for sure. we are in uncharted territory, whether it is the search at mar-a-lago, whether it's the decision the a.g. should or should not say something, whether there's an ultimate decision about whether or not to charge a former president with a crime, none of this has happened before in our nation's history. i have not seen something like this because i don't think any
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of us have seen something like this. i think the attorney general has done an extraordinary job today. he is a man who has entered the job seeking to return normalcy to the department of justice, seeking to re-establish past norms. and for him to say anything is extraordinary. but to say it in the way he did, laying out the reasons why he was doing and not doing certain things, explaining the presumption of innocence, explaining why he was not going to give some detail, but at the same time then offering to and saying that they were moving to unseal the warrant and some of the attachments to it, clearly i think transmitted information to the american people that they wanted to hear and at the same time put the ball in trump's court. the department wants it, okay, mr. former president. you claim you want it out there. it's your move. what are you going to do? i think it was just an extraordinary job and a job well done. and finally his support and words of support from the men and women from the if i and the department of justice is kplutly called for right now and i think
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certainly welcome within the halls of the fbi and doj. >> mr. dupree, do you think within this case without saying explicitly that garland called trump's bluff because it seemed like a game is being played here. we know that donald trump's attorneys were given both a search warrant and the receipt that is left behind telling you what has been taken out. so, they could release it themselves but have been saying we want more transparency. >> right. and that was always one of the more puzzling aspects of this whole episode is that on one hand, the president and his supporters were beating the drums saying, transparency, transparency, transparency. we have to put the spotlight on prosecutorial overreach. and at the same time, they themselves were in possession of these key documents, the warrant, the itemized receipt of the things seized at mar-a-lago. and yet they themselves, even though they could put those documents out in the public, elected not to. i think what the attorney general did today was a bit of a
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jiu jitsu move. he was very careful in saying the president himself has called attention to this search. and that's why i feel comfortable speaking about it. what happened today, i agree with peter. absolutely extraordinary. it's carved into the hall of the department of justice's facade that thou shalt not discuss ongoing investigations. for the attorney general to get up and address the nuances of the search warrant, absolutely extraordinary. i think it was the right move. i wish he had done it sooner. i appreciate he stuck up and put in a good word for the men and women of the fbi. i think their integrity has been baselessly attacked. >> peter, why do you think a.g. garland took this extraordinary move? is it because he knows what is in that search warrant and he knows how serious it is? or is it for some other reason? >> well, i think there's primarily guided by whether or not there's compelling public interest. t and you mentioned that's standard and there is within
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department guidelines this idea that when there are cases of public interest that dictates whether or not you should speak to something. i think he was certainly aware that given the significance of the event -- again, we're also stunned over the past three or four days to just step back and say the fbi searched the residence of a former president still shocks. so, based on that, i think appropriately my guess is he zuded it was appropriate to say something, particularly in light of -- i mean, there were senators. there are senators, united states senators, claiming or suggesting that fbi agents perhaps were planting evidence. people who should know better, responsible people who set the tone of discourse in the american public discourse. they -- these statements are wildly irresponsible. so, i think the attorney general saw an important need to do it but did so in a way that was very tailored to the guidelines that donl has to follow. and, again, provided enough
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information to say we would like to make this public, we are doing this because the president's attorneys have already mentioned this. and, again, i think it was a very delicately navigated course that he did and did very well. >> tom, i want to ask you about one of the sort of fine print points because i looked at the language as to opening up this search warrant. and nin it, it says in many different places, if the trump -- if trump approves, if trump and his attorney approves -- and that's said over and over and over again. so, right now, the only thing stopping this, i'm assuming, from coming out and from the judge opening up this search warrant to the public, is if donald trump and his lawyers say, don't do it. is that correct? >> that's my read of the situation. it seems to me it would be somewhat extraordinary if both the justice department and the trump lawyers all said, unseal this document, and for some reason the judge declined to do
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it. i know this jiang. i i know this judge. i've argued in front of this judge. i think he will take this seriously. if all parties are saying transparency is important, it's beyond me what interest the judge could identify keeping it under seal. it would be interesting to see what the trump team does because i think this they were to assert secrecy and say it must remain under seal, number one, i think it will contradict a lot of what they've been saying the last few days. and number two, the judges might release the information regardless. >> and we have about 15, 16, 17 hours until three -- i think 3:00 p.m. eastern, when the judge will make this decision. so, we will see then whether or not this is going to be released. and there are a lot of people who would like to put eyes on that. tom dupree, thank you so much. peter, please stay with me. coming up, scary moments for fbi agents today and police in cincinnati. what we're learning about the man who authorities say tried to
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tried to storm an fbi office in cincinnati, ohio, with an ar-15 style rifle and then engaged in a shootout with authorities. tonight, sources tell cnn the suspect is identified as 42-year-old ricky shiffer. he was killed in the standoff just hours ago, after authorities say he raised a gun at police officers. authorities are looking at shiffer's ties with right wing extremist groups. his name and photo, including one on donald trump's truth social platform. the user posted about today's attempted fbi ambush, well, it says in quotes, i thought i had a way through bullet proof glass, and i didn't. if you don't hear from me, it is true. i tried attacking the fbi and it'll mean either i was taken off the internet, the fbi got me, or they sent the regular
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cops, while -- the posted seemed to end mid sentence. after the fbi searched mar-a-lago, the user posted several violent messages toward the agency, including, quote, this is your call to arms from me. get whatever you need to be ready for combat. and he posted, kill them, in response to the possibility of fbi agents breaking up pro-trump demonstrations in palm beach, home of mar-a-lago. authorities are also looking into whether shiffer was at the capitol on january 6th. fbi veteran peter strzok is back with us now. when you hear these words -- and you have also heard the words "tyranny" from elected officials, republican elected officials to be clear. you have heard the words " "dictatorial." you have heard the words "defund the fbi."
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now you hear the words of this person who tried to, according to police, break into the fbi with a weapon, what is your response to what this is and what this may be a result of? >> well, it's chilling. you know, i think for a lot of politicians, faor a lot of righ wing personalities, this is performance art. they say things that are going to help them with fundraising, that are going to shore up their base and support. their target audience, there is a small percentage who takes it very seriously, who believes in these crazy conspiracy theories, who have access to weapons, and have it or view it as a call to violence or a call to civil war. it used to be a crazy conspiracy theorist exists on his own, but now with the proliferation of social media networks, things like gab, patriot.wind and
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donald.wind, and fringe sites, groups of people can talk to each and encourage dialogue. and even if 1/10 of 1% decides to take arms, that's still potentially a huge amount of people. so, the task for law enforcement to monitor that in a legal way in accordance with the first amendment to prevent harm to see it before it happens is extrao extraordinarily. difficult. and i'm concerned there seems to be a disconnect between people on the ground that are engaging in violence and an unwillingness between the politicians and others to understand the fires they are fanning. >> i don't see how they don't understand it since we just a couple years ago watched something that happened at the capitol, the january 6th attack. we saw it there. we saw the lead-up to that. it was online and it turned out that it turned into something real, physical, and violent. i do want to ask you if you've been hearing from any of the rank and file at the fbi, anybody in the doj, who is looking at all that's been said by elected officials and by what's going on online, and then
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this, what they're feeling at this point in time? >> well, i think people are concerned first and foremost because it's the fbi's job to prevent this sort of domestic terrorism and to prevent this sort of violence. so, there are a lot of people working very hard to try and get ahead of any sort of acts of violence like that. again, at the same time, by all accounts -- and we don't know much at this point, and the investigation is still very, very early. in many cases, individuals radicalize on their own. they may not be part of some big group that the fbi can detect a conspiracy ahead of time. and at the same time, you're seeing this violence directed to the fbi. we had this judge who signed the warrant down in florida who's being doxed and worse, threatened, because people found out the name of the judge, publicized his name, his address. we are entering a period where people are taking it to law enforcement, taking it to the
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department of justice, and not angry rhetoric, but physical violence, threats of death, and trying to, in fact, engage in that. so, on the one hand, there's an extraordinary effort to try and get ahead of this crime, but on the same hand it's coming at extreme personal costs. >> thank you for your insights this evening. from cincinnati to washington, the question tonight, where does this rhetoric end? can more violence by americans against americans be curbed? our legal and political experts join me with answers to those questions next. mer's dog sent in the mail. it was all f fresh. i want my dog to have a healththy and long life. the farmer's dog helps that out.. see the benefits of fresesh fod at betterforthem.com
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search on donald trump's florida home his supporters had one resounding sentiment. this meant civil war. a war against the tyranny of what they called a weaponized justice department. it sparked calls not just to defund the fbi, but to see its total disintegration and for, quote, massachusetts arrests of the agents involved in the search. arrests of the agents involved in the search. an armed man with possible ties to january 6th tried to break into an fbi office. he was killed by local police. joining me now is cnn legal analyst paul kalin, former
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secret service agent jonathan and dug high, former communications director for the rnc. i'm coming for you first, doug. we heard from elected officials with the republican party saying all manner of things, using the words tyranny, dictorial, defund the fbi. should they stop saying these things when they know that the fbi was just doing their job? >> one, they never should have started. let start there. and a lot of people were trying to urge restraint within the party. unfortunately, me being one of them, weren't getting very far. it's not just defund the fbi. it's destroy the fbi, which is what paul gosar said. what marjorie taylor greene said that, she tweeted a picture of an upside down american flag. according to the flag code, that's distress under extreme danger to life or property. in other words, that's not a tweet or a message. that's a call to arms. there will be more violence and members of congress who have
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seen their capitol police killed who have seen their other colleagues whether it's steve scalise or gabby giffords shot at and maimed, they will see this happen again and they will have to answer for it eventually. >> as a former secret service agent, paul, what that moment must have been like as they are there to -- sorry, jonathan. they are there to sort of protect the former president, and yet they have to listen to the fbi i am assuming. what that most must have been like. >>? very smartlerly, cooler heads prevailed. coordination was in advance of the raid, in advance of the search and seizure of mar-a-lago. communication between the secret service and the fbi did occur. now, it occurred at the highest levels. again the reason why because you want to deconflict any issues. you don't want a bunch of fbi agents showing up having conflict. what does it do?
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it causes chaos at the entrance to mar-a-lago. the fbi's intent wasn't to draw a lot of attention. they wanted to come in. we read from reporting that the secret service facilitated their entry into the facility. they got where they needed to go pursuant to the warrant. that was verified by the secret service. and everyone knows their roles and responsibilities. what's really important here is to understand that for the viewer to understand that secret service agents are criminal investigators. every day they swear out criminal complaints, warrants of search and seizure. they swear those out to the aim affidavits that the fbi does. they know what's at stake here. they help their law enforcement brethren go in and do their job. apolitically, right? this was not the -- at agents did not have political motivations. they were doing what they are charged to do every single day. >> paul, you are our legal analyst, and there are so many
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legal issues facing donald trump and his businesses as well. when you look at what happened at mar-a-lago does it appear to you wfrom what you have seen, merrick garland is saying we are going to let the public see the search warrant. are all of the i's dotted and t's crossed from what you know so far? >> it's impossible to know that at this point in time because we haven't seen the warned supporting documentation. in other words, an fbi agent had to sign off on what the evidence was creating probable cause. but what we have seen and i think this is extremely unfortunate are these incendiary accusations made by the former president and other people that, for instance, the fbi planted evidence. okay? now, i have heard people say, well, it's horrible. wait a minute. the fbi go in on this raid with a bunch of other fbi agents, secret service agents around. it would be impossible for them
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to plant evidence. maybe that happened at some point in american history, but it certainly didn't happen with respect to this particular raid. and i think we have to take a deep breath and step back and see what the facts are. maybe in the end this was an unjustifiable warrant and it was an unjustifiable raid on mar-a-lago, but you know something? maybe just maybe there was good reason for it and good cause for it and we don't have enough facts to have an opinion on that. >> nothing happens in a vacuum. you know this with politics. when you look at this and you see "the washington post" reporting now that there may have been something to do with nuclear weapons, this documentation, what would you like to say to the republican party about how they have handled this because they are fundraising off of this. i am getting the emails. >> yeah. look, any movie or tv show or book you read, when you make a deal with the devil, there is a price to pay. ultimately this is what republicans are learning and
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relearning. donald trump doesn't give points. he only takes them away one at a time. and it's why every republican or almost every republican is not questioning the doj do the right thing, was there transparency. some are asking those. those are reasonable question. they are taking it two steps further to not principles of fact or law and order or rule of law, but to back one man to make him happy so that they don't lose points today or tomorrow. >> is it because they are afraid of losing their power, their positions? >> and voters. >> voters, right? >> ultimately, yes. gentlemen, thank you. paul, jonathan, and doug. appreciate all of your expertise. i know this has been a wild ride. we will be right back.
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hanging with me. laura coats is sitting in for
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don lemon tonight and begins right now. >> nice to see you. hey, girl, hey. good night, hey. thank you so much. everyone, this is "don lemon tonight." i'm sitting in for don lemon. we are beginning with a major development which may explain partially the fbi's urgency in getting back classified documents from trump's mar-a-lago home. you know, tonight "the washington post" is quoting sources who are saying that investigators were searching for classified nuclear documents and other items. and there was deep concern among officials about the material potentially ending up in the wrong hands. . sources don't say if such documents were recovered. but this follows an extraordinary move by the attorney general merrick garland. he asked a federal court to unseal the warrant that permitted the search to take place in the first place. now, the surprise decision setting off a quick chain of events tonight and a source saying trump and his team appe

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