alternative facts. i'm michael smerconish in philadelphia. never in the field of search warrants has so much been assumed by so many, though known only to so few. monday's search of mar-a-lago began a when i will wind week of pargs and speculation. if you thought the public release of warrant and inventory would end all the mystery and allow the emergence of one truth, you are mistaken. yesterday "the wall street journal" was the first to detail what was retrieved. 11 sets of classified documents,

including some marked as top secret, and meant to be only available in special government facilities. a list of items removed from the property shows fbi agents took around 20 boxes of items as well as binders of photos, at least one handwritten note and a document about pardoning trump's ally, roger stone. also included was information about the president of france, according to the three-page list. that list contained in a seven-page document also includes the warrant to search the premise which was granted by a federal magistrate judge in florida. the list includes references to one set of documents marked as various classified tssci documents, an abbreviation that refers to top secret sensitive compartmented information. it also says agents collected four sets of top secret documents, three sets of secret documents and three sets of confidential documents. the list didn't provide any more details about the substance of the documents. to the extent that anybody is

back to work in an office, i can just imagine a conversation between a republican and democratic co-worker. they're gathered around the keurig and the democrat says, ah, "the new york times" reported thursday there was a subpoena issued. so when trump didn't comply, the search was necessary. and the republican responds, yeah, but he had produced certain documents and he was cooperating. he even greeted the people from the archives when they came to his house in june. so why did the feds file a motion to compel or issue another subpoena? the democrat says, if trump really was a victim, he would have produced the warrant and inventory the day it happened. and the republican responds, the warrant and inventory? they're meaningless. show us the affidavit. the democrat, "the washington post" said there were classified documents related to nuclear weapons. so there was urgency in conducting the search. and the republican responds, the warrant was signed on a friday. executed on a monday.

that's not urgency. too many weighed in too soon. for and against trump. and now evidence be damned there's no going back. especially when close to midnight on thursday the former president himself released a statement calling the search un-american, unwarranted, and unnecessary. already by then kevin mccarthy, mike pence and ron desantis already rallied to the side of the former president. peter winner served in three republican administrations, those of ronald reagan, george h.-w bush and george w bush but an ever trumper. writing for the atlantic this week he summarized some of the other support trump could have received. the gateway pundit, pro trump outlet wrote, this means war. steve bannon called the fbi gestapo. we need to choke down the fbi and justice department. michael caputo said with this militant raid on president

trump's home, we have become russia. the fbi is the kgb. former house speaker newt gingrich said of the fbi, we would be better off to think of these people as wolves. wolvs who want to eat you. fox news jessie waters wondered, how do we know they're not planting evidence right now in mark 11, this is the worst attack on this republic in modern history period. framed as such, is it any wonder that on thursday, a guy who was at the capitol on january 6th was killed by law enforcement after showing up armed at an fbi field office in ohio? in the midst of the incident he found time to post on truth social, encouraging others to prepare for a revolutionary-type war. the response on the left, on monday msnbc rachel maddow, described as gushing. house speaker nancy pelosi, beaming as she reminded nobody is above the law, even an ex-president.

steven colbert positively giddy. over on twitter, george conway of the lincoln project tweeted belated happy mar-a-lago search and seizure day to all who celebrate. hillary clinton hawking but her emails merchandise. at the intercept, they were wondering, could trump go down like al capone? at least there was this from jonah goldberg, quote, just remember, if these reports are true, that means that if they can search the ex-president's home for vital nuclear documents and signals intelligence, they can do it to you, too. where we can't agree on the facts, there's the concern that things will get even worse. as david brooks writes "the new york times" under the headline, did the fbi just re-elect donald trump? america absolutely needs to punish those who commit crimes. on the other hand, america absolutely needs to make sure that trump does not get another term as president. what do we do if the former makes the latter more likely? i have no clue how to get out of

the potential conflict between our legal and political realities. here is my thought, let's all catch our breath. step back. let the dust settle and hopefully we can learn what was in the documents trump kept and why did he keep them? were some nuclear in nature? were any properly declassified? and were all less adverse means exhausted by the justice department before the search warrant was obtained? those are my questions. i want to know what you think about something related. go to smerconish.com. answer this week's poll question. did the search of mar-a-lago boost trump's odds of being the 2024 gop nominee? i'll give you the results at the end of the hour. my next guest says during his career, he had the responsibility to see and use various levels of classified information. including the top secret sci or sensitive compartment information documents that

federal agents said they recovered from mar-a-lago. joining me now is retired lieutenant general mark hurtling, cnn military analyst and served as commanding general of the first armored division and later u.s. army europe and the seventh army. general, thanks so much for being here. what is this sci classification and where does it fit in the hierarchy of classified documents? >> well, as you said, michael, sci stands for sensitive compartmented information. most people don't understand that. that means it's an element of top secret documents. where the access is restricted to those that have -- first of all, top secret clearance but have a need to know additional information and certain details. sci is classified information that comes from sensitive intelligence sources. we might say spies or some type of satellites or things that other nations don't know about or methods or analytical processes. and it's handled with formal access control systems established by the dni in our

government. so it's critically important stuff. there are all sorts of additional elements of top secret programs, sci is one of them. sap programs we were talking about earlier in the week, special assess programs are another and they all have requirements to be restricted so that people who don't have a need to know, who don't have the correct classification cannot see them. >> i don't see in the warrant any reference to s.a.p. or any reference to nuclear just in terms of addressing things that got a lot of press attention earlier in the week. you know, general, not lost on me is someone in your position had to undergo vetting just to get access to the type of documents that we're speaking of. and yet to get elected president of the united states, it's presumed that you're entitled to that level of access. >> yeah. your listeners probably don't know this, michael. when ever you go for a security clearance, no matter what level

it is, confidential, secret, top secret, top secret sci or even additional s.a.p. programs, the excruciating details of the vetting process can go on for months. it involves filling out a form. you put in every place you ever lived, names of your teachers, names of your friends and neighbors and kinds of jobs you held, what kind of things you have done in the past that you're not -- sometimes not really proud of because after that fbi agents of a special organization or cid agents will not come not only to your home to conduct interviews but the homes of people you name in your document but also people that they name. so, if they go to my third grade teacher and she says, well, mark also had a run-in with this guy. they go to that guy to find out more. those things can take anywhere from six months to a year to process. you normally go under additional requirements to say things and

do things like, you know, i'll leave it at that. but it's excruciatingly detailed. anyone who has been through it knows how difficult it is. especially when -- >> the former president -- >> the sci programs is because you could give intelligence off to others that you might know. >> the former president says he had a standing order that when he would take documents from the oval back to the residence, they were all declassified. and tried to present this as analogous to all of us in the regular working world, we take home our work. what was your reaction to that? >> well, michael, i'm a soldier. i'm not a lawyer. so any comment i might have on that film by mr. solomon on fox news or mr. trump's legal strategy isn't relevant. anyone in government who treats classified information in a cavalier manner or anyone who supports them as they do so, i'm talking about others in

government, put lives at risk. and it places our national security in danger. and to me, that's scandalous and reprehensible. you know, i have my own thoughts. i mentioned them to my wife last night when i first saw that film about offering that defense. and again, i'm not a lawyer, but i would guess any prosecutor would have a good time with that kind of defense. >> general hurtling, thank you for your expertise. we appreciate it. >> no problem. have a great day, michael. what are your thoughts? tweet me at smerconish, go to my youtube or facebook pages, hit me on social media. i'll read response throughout the course of the program. trump is the gop god. if no charges are brought against him, it will make him so much stronger. in the end he may refuse the nomination. but does the execution of the search warrant embolden him? you saw -- you had ron desantis and mike pence immediately rallying to his side, i'm sure because they were fearful of alienating the base if they didn't. so, logically it seems like his

odds of being the gop nominee were just enhanced by all of this. that's what i'm asking in this week's poll question. if he is the republican nominee, then you know, it appears in view of what we went through in the last cycle, it's like a 50/50 proposition that he wins. i want to know what you think, go to my website at smerconish.com. here is this week's poll question. did the search of mar-a-lago boost trump's odds of being the 2024 gop nominee? still to come, even if president trump did store national secrets in his home, how likely is it that he'll be prosecuted? and with college enrollment down 4 million in the past decade and tuition out of control, is higher education no longer worth it? plus, soon after trump announced the fbi he said raided mar-a-lago, the #civilwar was trending on twitter. is this a real threat? a historian was warning president biden that democracy is teetering.

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this week's raid on mar-a-lago, quote unquote, and incendiary polarizing effects. there were death threats against the judge who issued the warrant. and online, attacks on the entire fbi, plus a physical attack on the cincinnati field office by an armed man who had been at the capitol on january 6th and who was fatally shot after a standoff. on monday night, the phrase civil war was trending on twitter. one user on trump's social media platform truth social said f a civil war. give them a revolution. joining me now so discuss is sean who attended the meeting with president biden, professor of history at princeton university. good to see you. you said when a nation loses faith in elections, democracy is dead. are we there yet? >> no, we're not there yet, but first of all, good morning, michael. great to be here with you. look, what we said to the president, i can't go into any detail, right? but generally as a historian i think we're in very, very

difficult situation to say the least. there really have been three periods i liken it to or rather three periods that stand out. one as you said before the period, the decade leading up to the civil war. secondly, the 1930s, during which the global economic collapse. and then a longer period actually going -- culminated in what we have now but really goes back at least to the '90s and hit an inflection point around 2000. what is common to all three is two things. first, global as well as domestic. all of these are situations where the situation for democracy worldwide was in crisis. and it was in combination with that that the events unfolded in the united states. but secondly, it has to do with legitimacy. that's the key to all of this. is when the basic institutions of the country are being called -- the legitimacy of those institutions is being called into serious question. certainly happened before the civil war that led to succession when the slave holders reb

rebellion, look, we don't believe in your constitution. your constitution is wrong. we have our own. good-bye. in the 1930s, these fascist movements but more than that, real attempts to take over the government, not just by the german american bund. there were all kinds of things going on trying to unsettle american democracy. then more recently, and what you see not only elections being called into question, january 6th, but then you go back to november 22nd, 2000, which another mob tried to stop the counting of votes in miami dade, may have affected the election. all along the basic institutions of government, even fbi and law enforcement is being called into question. those are moments i think when democracy is really in trouble and we're certainly at one of those moments now. >> okay. so when you look at those three episodes that you compare what we're going through now to, where is the light at the end of the tunnel?

how do they end? and what can move us forward and keep this union together? >> yeah. i mean, i'm a historian. sometimes i wish i had a crystal ball. history does not give us those kinds of lessons. thus far the united states has been very lucky in a way that we had leaders like abraham lincoln and fdr to guide us through this. may not have that kind of leadership today. but besides all of that, we don't know where things are going to change institutionally, but we know at the bottom of all of it are the voters in the end. i mean, that's what's going to matter. and, you know, this will be up to the voters to vote in people who are going to be able to restore the legitimacy of these institutions. and you know, i do think we're in a dangerous situation. i would agree with you, by the way, about everybody should just take a deep breath right now. instead of jumping to conclusions, figuring out what's going to happen here, what's going to happen there.

you know, the argument between the democrat and the republican, everybody should try to calm down. that would be the first thing i would say. you know, we don't know what's going to happen. we have seen the cover of a book -- >> professor, one of the problems is we can't agree on facts. we can't agree on truth. >> yeah. >> when you speak of lack of faith in institutions, i think of the media where we're all getting our information from opposite ends of the spectrum. >> i completely agree. and it's a real problem. we have never seen -- there wasn't internet in 1860. there wasn't social media in 1932/'33. we're in a world beyond my comprehension as a n historian. i'm not terribly optimistic. i'm giving you what has to happen. i'm not sure it's going to happen. >> i know you can't share with us what you told the president. final question, whatever you told the president, did he seem to get the message? >> oh, i think he gets it. he understands the situation

we're in. you know, he doesn't have any easy answers either. but i think he's going to do the best he can to lead the country. that's very clear. and that's the best he can do. we can all just do our jobs. i think he'll try to do his as best he can. >> i like the idea that he brings in smart people and wants to hear their opinions. thank you for being here. i appreciate your time. >> great to see you, michael. let's see what you're saying. what do we got from the world of twitter. you liberals want a soviet state. is that addressed to me? i'm the liberal? i want a soviet state? guess what, i thought it used to be that those on the right, i'm going to assume that's where you are, respected the rule of law. you know, when i was a republican, when i was a republican, in the bush years, meaning george papa, herbert walker bush, those were the years when we put on a pedestal law enforcement, the fbi. did you read all those comments

coming from so-called leaders on the right wanting to tear this country down by questioning law enforcement? i think that's a horrible thought. i'm not the problem. that mentality is. please make sure you're going to smerconish.com this hour. i want to see how this is going to turn out. the poll question of the week, did the search of mar-a-lago boost trump's odds of being the 2024 gop nominee? while you're there, register for the daily newsletter. up ahead, although we now know some of the underlying potential crimes that gave rise to the search warrant for mar-a-lago this week, including espionage, by the way, what's the likelihood that the former president will actually be prosecuted? and there's this, with college costs skyrocketing and the benefits becoming less and less clear, enrollment dropping precipitously, is school to, quote alice cooper, out forever? ♪ and find the answer that was right under theieir nose. or... his s nose.

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after the unprecedented search of a former president's private residence, what comes next? the unsealing of the mar-a-lago search warrant reveals fbi agents went to donald trump's florida home this week looking for possible violations of major crimes. the federal magistrate judge who signed off on the warrant authorized agents to search what the bureau called the 45 office. as well as all other rooms or areas at mar-a-lago available to trump and his staff for storing boxes and documents. they recovered 11 sets of classified documents including one marked top secret sci, one of the highest levels of classification. while the details about the documents themselves remain scarce, the law cited in the warrant offer new insight into what the fbi was looking for. the laws cover, quote, destroying or concealing documents to obstruct government snfgss and the unlawful removal of government records, according to the search warrant. also, among the laws listed is one known as the espionage act

relates to retrieval, storage or transmission of national defense information or classified material. here now to discuss is cnn senior justice correspondent evan perez. evan, this flows initially from a grand jury that at least i didn't know existed. in other words, it's very hard to keep straight all the different investigations of former president trump, but am i right, that there's some other grand jury operating out there that we didn't know about until just this week? >> reporter: yeah, look, you're not alone. we didn't know until after the search on monday that -- we learned there had been this june meeting at mar-a-lago where jay brant and the investigators from the justice department, the fbi, came to mar-a-lago. it turns out there was a grand jury subpoena that was served that it allowed them to take some documents at the end of that meeting in june. there was a subsequent subpoena, grand jury subpoena, served for access to surveillance video from mar-a-lago.

the fbi wanted to know who's got access to this area because of the sensitivity of the documents that we're talking about that were being stored in this basement in the former president's beach house in palm beach. so, again, the level of sensitivity here was such that the fbi wanted to make sure -- they wanted to make sure who had access to this. and this grand jury, these grand jury subpoenas really does -- it really tells us there's been this escalation of this investigation well before the monday search, right, which is the president, the former president and his team have tried to portray that everything was great and everything was fine. and then there was this massive surprise what they call a raid or siege is what the former president called it. turns out there was a lot more going on behind the scenes that we didn't know about. >> did they reach these conversations, negotiations, a break point? >> reporter: yes. that's what happens. and you can see what the attorney general said when he

spoke to us a couple days ago. he said that it was essentially at a point where less intrusive means, that means things like a grand jury subpoena, that did not solve the problem. that the former president did not surrender the documents that clearly were still there. they claim that there was nothing left there and yet they showed up on monday, the fbi shows up on monday, and has 20 boxes, 11 of which, 11 sets of classified -- various classification of documents. that tells you there was a breaking point and things got contentious much earlier than we realized. >> evan, like everyone else, i'm caught up in the classification issue because it speaks to the significance of the materials at issue. >> reporter: yeah. >> but as i take a look at the warrant and the three references to the federal statutes, prosecution for violating those statutes is not dependent upon any particular classification. is that a fair statement as far

as you know? >> reporter: that is a very, very, very smart thing to point out. and i think it's going to be a hugely important part of this investigation because the former president is coming up with various excuses or explanations for why these things were there. one of them is, you know, i declassified them. another one is even more exotic one is that just by sending documents to the residence at the white house from the secure areas of white house to his bedroom, that by virtue of that he was declassifying them. all of these things obviously there's a reason why he's doing this because he believes that these are going to be good defenses. what's interesting about the statutes that the government has ch chosen, the prosecutors have chosen to cite in this document, it doesn't depend on these documents being classified. 793, the espionage statute that sort of -- the one that everybody is focussed on, that one just talks about mishandling

of national defense information. obviously those things tend to be classified. but it doesn't depend on the classification for you to be violating the law, for you to be prosecuted for it. we've seen some cases of nsa employees who took home this type of stuff and they were prosecuted. again, it was -- these were people who had the right to have access to this stuff. but they took it out of the secure circumstances under which they're supposed to be stored. so this is where -- other people could be charged, too, by the way. other people who may have had access to these things that shouldn't have. >> i still have more questions than answers. evan, thank you so much. been watching you all week doing a greatunraveling all this. keep it up. >> thank you. this comes from youtube, social media reaction what do we have? question is why did the fbi take them the first time in june? i agree, ronny. i don't know the answer to that. i don't know if he offered to give them to him. i mean, something went on where

documents were initially handed over but not all documents. they come back. they see them. they have conversation. and then it reaches a break point. why -- i want to know the answer to your question, right, which is what was the break point and what brought it about? i also want to know the answer to the question of why did trump keep them to begin with? this seems like an unforced error, does it not? i can't imagine he was writing a memoir and needed to rely on, you know, the evidence for footnotes. make sure you're going to smerconish.com and answering this week's poll question. did the search of mar-a-lago boost trump's odds of being the 2024 gop nominee? still to come, while the debate about forgiving student loans drags on, there are 4 million fewer college students now in america than a decade ago. where have they gone? and are they ever coming back to campus? that's also gentle on skin.

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students in college today than there were just ten years ago. 4 million. and as president biden gears up to make a huge decision on student loan forgiveness, many more are asking is college worth it. the cost of a four year degree is not only rising but requires more time to complete. the director for business and economic research at ball state told nbc news, quote, with the exception of wartime, the united states has never been through a period of declining educational attainment like this before. universities are taking notice. this week, drexel university here in philadelphia, said it will offer a 50% reduced tuition to community college transfers to their university. that's a deal worth over $28,000. other states, like new mexico have passed legislation offering tuition-free college to residents willing to attend a local public university. as it stands, the unemployment rate for those with a degree is lower than those without one, but just by 3.5%. is that alone enough to hush the

skepticism over the value of a degree? my next guest is a higher education editor, john marcus joins me now. hey, john, if college enrollment is in such steep decline, is it necessarily a bad thing? >> well, not everybody has to go to college. but, the empirical implications of this on going and continuing decline are that, as you point out, people without a university degree are more likely to lose their jobs in an economic downturn. they make less money over the course of that you are lives. that means they pay less in taxes, require more in social services. that's a drag on the economy. there are also knowledge industries that fuel the american economy that require bachelors degree, educated students. even before the pandemic, there was a shortage of 9 million workers with bachelors degrees. so this is only getting worse. >> so, if they're not going to college, the 4 million, and the data that you've written about

suggests they're not necessarily taking a first job, what are they doing? >> yeah. so, there does seem to be sort of common wisdom, almost sort of discounting this problem around the idea that this is a pandemic-oriented problem. it is true that the decline has accelerated during the pandemic. but as you pointed out, it's been going on well in advance of the pandemic. there are also fewer 18-year-olds. there's been a fluctuations in the birthrate, so just fewer people in the category of the generation that would be prospective college students. but neither of those things is enough to account for the dramatic nature and the steep decline that we're seeing. nor, as common wisdom has suggested, are they necessarily going directly into the work force. bureau of labor statistics data suggests that immediate recent high school graduates are going into the work force at a lower rate than was true before the pandemic. where are they? i don't know. but they're not in the work force and they're not in

college. they're maybe in the gig economy, out there somewhere floating around. that's a problem for the long-term economic success of this country. >> i can only imagine that all the public conversation about student loan, the size of student loan and student loan forgiveness being contemplated by the president, every time it gets discussed re-enforcing to the future would be college students, hey, do i really want to incur all that debt? final thought from you? >> yeah. the inadvertent consequence of that question is to remind us all how much debt there is out there. yet another discouragement to these students. equally interesting and something i think a lot of people haven't thought about, these kid's parents the kids graduating high school now, their parents are still paying off their college loans. those are parents that might not be incredibly enthusiastic about sending their own kids through college, incurring debt for their kids. >> these universities need to up their game in the placement office. you know, make sure they're

focussing enough energy toward getting jobs for those who are graduating, maybe that's a way to help. thank you so much for your expertise. i appreciate it. >> thanks for having me. still to come, last week i in interviewed roger waters about his music and politics. our ed it made him look like a prick. i think i should respond. we'll have the final result. go vote on smerconish.com if you haven't. did the raided of mar-a-lago boost trump's odds of being the 2024 gop nominee? an amusement park is like whooping cough, it's not just for kids. whooping cough is highly contagious for people of any age. and it can c cause violent uncontrollable coughing fits. ask your doctorr or pharmacist about whooping cough vaccination because it's not justst for kids.

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last saturday, one of my guests was roger waters. the legendary leer cyst for pink floyd now on solo tour with a very political message. the interview was prerecorded. we aired 6.5 minutes. waters very animated. his controversy comments made headlines. and i ma immediately released a 27 minutes of the interview on youtube channel. wednesday night he was on stage in columbus, ohio, and had this to say about the interview. >> cut off my interview on cnn to make me look like a prick. i will not sell out. we will stand on our tiemy platform of human rights forever. >> roger, come on. nobody cut off your interview to make you look like a prick. i was directly involved in what

was aired on cnn. if i had anything to be embarrassed about, i would have never released the up cut version, nor come to your show last saturday night. good luck on tour. time to see how you at smerconish.com. did the search of mar-a-lago boost trump's odds of being the 2024 gop nominee? wow. i'm always suspicious when they're such round numbers, even though it's my poll. 70/30 say no. i'm surprised by that, i'm really surprised by it, particularly when you had desantis immediately rally around the former president before he even knew what it was about. here's what you're thinking about this and other subjects. it will depend on the contents of the documents. if trump is charged with what is

essentially a process crime, it will help him. if he did something like sell nuclear secrets to saudi arabia, he's toast. yes, if he sold secrets to saudi arabia, you would think he would be toast. i just said i don't think there's going to be one truth that will emerge from all of this. already you can see just in the way people are suiting up in their usual armor that we can't agree on a heck of a lot. there's no reference to anything nuclear in the warrant. i know that was reported by "the washington post" and maybe it's accurate. but there's nothing referenced in the warrant nor the inventory on that issue. i think people are probably going to continue to see it the way they want to see it. of course the changing dynamic is if he's charged with violating the espionage act, and we don't know. but he was probably enhanced with the base. and keep in mind if he wins that gop nomination, all bets are off, who knows how it ends? catherine, what else came out in terms of social media? i would like to congratulate the fbi and the liberal left for

jump-starting trump's reelection campaign. he's already raised a ton of money. gina, i don't know that he's raised money in a way that can be used. i'm getting into the weeds on this. specifically for a presidential campaign, you'll remember he raised $121 million before any of this but the $121 million can't properly be used to advance his presidential campaign. i would have thought he would have announced sooner rather than later so he could raise funds specifically for use in the 2024 campaign. but i do see all the tweets and the texts and realize that he's trying to fund raise from it. what else did we get this week? i've got more time for it this week, i like this. yes, i would love to vote for desantis but i believe the doj has forced trump upon us. maybe that's the democratic plan. rawhide, i think you're too machiavellian. i completely believe, i know this is being derided in some

media quarters, the idea that garland and biden weren't in cah cahoots. it would have been ridiculously foolish for merrick garland to tip off the white house has to what he was about to do at mar-a-lago and for joe biden, you don't want to know that sort of information so you can remain at an arm's distance. one more, if i've got time. two, i may have time for. smerconish, you mentioned the rights criticism of the fbi and the doj. where is your outrage about the left's denunciation of the scotus and the constitution? donna p, meaning what? the plan to pack the court? i'm not sure where you're coming from in saying that the left is denouncing of the scotus. they haven't been denouncing of the scotus, unless you mean the overturning of roe v. wade. i addressed the overturning of roe v. wade when it happened.

many didn't like what i said, that they're not a group of mullahs and anybody who took the time to read allito's opinion, would see that there was legal logic to it. one more, what do i got? it's sad that we continue to live in a society that continues to grow further apart. no one cares for each other. no middle ground. our democracy is like a toxic relationship. it will probably screw up our kids too. i hope not. we just don't have common experiences and we have to figure out how to spend more time among people who are dissimilar from us. i cited last week bob putnam who wrote "bowling alone." i cited the work of charles murray from "coming apart." and of course roz chetty from harvard who showed there is

still opportunity for the poor to get rich in this country. what's the ticket? when they interact with people wealthier than they are. the issue is we're all in our bubbled existence living not necessarily literally, but in gated communities. the internet has made it easier for us to find the like-minded and the people who have interests the same as ours. the bottom line, get out of your bubble and mix and mingle more with people who do not look like you do. that's the solution. social capital. thank you for watching. go to smerconish.com and keep voting. register for the daily newsletter when you are there. and i will see you next week. now, she can have her cake and eat it too. nexium 2 24hr stops acid before it stararts for all-da, all-night protection. can you imaginine 24 hours without heartburn? i am a business hotel. i eat, sleep, and breath efficiency. i'm looking r someone who appreciates high rois aneven higher rpms. i would be honored to be your perfect somhere. who appreciates high rois

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happening now in the newsroom. new details on that fbi search of former president trump's home. >> all of it is astounding and shocking and depressing. >> what we're learning from the now-unsealed warrant including what was removed from trump's home and the potential crimes being investigated. a victory for the biden administration as congress passes his $750 billion health care and climate bill. the immediate impact you will feel when the bill is signed. the polio virus has been detected in wastewater samples in new york city. what that means for how the virus is circulating. plus new covid guidelines as millions of kids head back to