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thanks so much for watching tonight. you joined me tomorrow in cnn newsroom with victor black both from two to 4 pm eastern. i'll be right back here, tomorrow night, with that don lemon tonight starts right now. all your stunned. >> wailuku's hair. alison camera. this is pastor bedtime i know. >> i knew you were gonna say that. i knew you knew that and you're gonna say that. >> it is good to see. you too don't. >> i was not here last. week you to either. but a week you chose to take a vacation. >> oh, i've got so many taxing how can you take off this week. i had to remind people, it is a crazy new cycle every week. >> it is gonna be a crazy new cycle for quite a long time. >> omar, the big craziness will continue. >> at the second of the talk about this and you understand watching from afar and not being here. i'll see you tomorrow during the day. and then again tomorrow night.
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>> so this is don lemon tonight, i had a really interesting perspective. i was actually out of the country watching all of this. and getting people's perspective on it. it gives you, it is good to be away. it is good to watch think sometimes from afar. so that you do get another perspective. because americans, sometimes, we are so myopic. we get so caught up in what is happening right in front of us that we don't see the force and the trees. okay, so go with me here, this could be back by the way. i want to talk to you about something called cdc. not crt, cdc. something was thinking about. critical democracy theory. i >> see that there. on purpose. if we only spend as much time talking about critical democracy theory as some people do about critical race theory. right and then the whole trumped-up thing about young people where it's not being taught. this israel.
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critical democracy theory. this is to keep our democracy you have to recognize what it is. and sometimes you get too close to the craziness and the lies they actually don't see it. that you are being bamboozled. so we have to talk about it. we have to keep, good or bad. our democracy is the best in the system. and the world. we have to keep it. the traditions and the protocols have kept it moving. there are certain assumptions that we get. presidents will abide by the constitution, right? they will not exploit the holes in the system the way the trump does. and they have people around to make excuses for him and pedal lies. at the end of the day. rudy giuliani. four seasons total landscaping, the heritage, the lies. i >> was a call by? oh my goodness, all the networks. wow.
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i all the networks. >> you couldn't possibly believe that the company counting our vote, with control over our vote, is owned by two venezuelans. who are allies of chavez. or president allies of maduro. with a company whose chairman is a close associate and business partner of george for us. the biggest donor to the democrat party. the biggest stone to antifa. the biggest donor to black lives matter. my goodness. >> they look like they're passing out dope not just ballots. it is quite clear they are stealing votes. >> it is almost blame somebody else. and then it's like this. blame that person. or explain the media. except they don't blame the media. that carries their water. a cloud car full of lies.
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and now rudy giuliani is a target of george's investigation of one of the greatest threats to our democracy in history. and what is giuliani's response? >> when you start turning around lawyers they'll be defending the clients. that are going to live in a fascist state. >> for the record. for the record, let's be very clear about this, so that people don't get it twisted. no one is after going after anyone. no one is treating anyone in the trump administration, any differently that they've treated other presidents. and no other president has had as egregious behavior is that. i so, would rudy giuliani says, this is not a fascist state. this is the united states of america. a democracy that generation the patriots have fought and died to protect. a democracy that needs to hold. in order to do that we have to
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have an agreement upon which reality and what facts are. and with lies are. and what excuses are. he is not the only one caught up in the many many investigations of the former president and his inner circle. a federal judge just a ruling that lindsey graham must testify before that same georgia grand jury. the senator is scheduled to appear summer on august 23rd. but he says he's going to appeal that. donald trump, this is the god's honest truth, we covered it the entire time he was in office. he is never ever been able to tell the difference between himself and the office. that is an important distinction. and his defenders rain down excuses. but >> this is from president trump's office. it just came in a few minutes ago. as we can all relate to, --
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as we can all relate to, everyone ends up having to bring home their work. from time to time, american presidents are no different. >> but [inaudible] [inaudible] >> we have this list from the fbi but we don't have conclusive miss as to whether this is classified material and whether not it rises to love the hive classified material. >> the documents, they turn over boxes of documents. come on people. they could've had the documents and all they had to do with that ask. no, they were planted by the fbi agents. no they were declassified. no wait, executive privilege. he took the documents.
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he took the documents. this is what is so infuriating and so odd, it was ottawa this week. because everyone kept saying, unless it is a five alarm fire then they should not have done this to a president. no, what he did was wrong. he took the documents. boom, end of story. that is it. he took the documents. they ask for them back, you said no, they executed a search warrant, they found what they were looking for, end of story. what you did was wrong. there is no -- well, i killed them but i didn't, i stab him but i didn't shoot him. what are we doing people? what he did was wrong. he took the documents. no other president has done that. he was 45, there's at least 30 before him.
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and they all complied. they all follow the rules. but this happened. he is the only one. no one is targeting him. he is nine to you. but the bar is so low for him that people say it is not like he shot someone. that is not the point. the point is this. donald trump puts his own interest ahead at the interest of you, the american people, over, and over, and over, and over again. just look at what the doj is saying about the search at mar-a-lago. they are confirming just how serious the whole thing is. confirming that this is an ongoing criminal investigation. so when the justice department removed 11 sets of classified
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documents from mar-a-lago, some of the mark top secret, sci, one of the highest of the classification. that wasn't just about getting classified material back. important though that is. so think about that. this is a criminal investigation. this is a big deal. but why? but why? that is the question. why? what reason with a former president have to take classified top secret documents. our president actually above the law? we keep hearing that no one is above the law, not even the president. we're gonna find out aren't we. let's discuss all this now, former watergate prosecutor nick akerman is here and peter strzok, the former fbi chief of
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counter espionage. gentlemen, thank you. i appreciate you being here. nick, you first. prosecutors in georgia telling rudy giuliani he's been targeting the 2020 presidential election investigation. is he likely to face a criminal prosecution? >> if you take the definition of target, because it normally used in prosecution and criminal defense. it means that the georgia da has enough evidence to charge rudy giuliani with a crime. that is pretty serious. it is not the same as being a subject that is being looked at. it is not the same as being a witness. it means they have enough evidence to charge rudy giuliani with a crime. >> peter, i want to talk to you about this mar-a-lago search. and listen, you know what has been happening, especially you've been part of what has been going on. and the last 56 years or so. the justice department is
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opposing the release of this affidavit. which lays out probable cause and they write this in their following, i quote here, the affidavit would serve as a roadmap to the government ongoing investigation providing specific details about the insurrection and a likely course in a manner that is highly likely to compromise future investigative steps. they are making very clear that mar-a-lago search was in just a retrieval operation. the investigation is ongoing. what is your take from the doj filing. >> i think it makes a lot of sense in the context of not only what they have done traditionally and guard the doj does not typically release affidavit for search warrants during the course of investigation. they make people lit vacated after charges of fraud. there's some interesting wording and that filing about relying on witnesses and that it might allow the law -- it is clear to me that between that filing and that the fbi has gone out and interviewed people at mar-a-lago has
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provided details about why the way documents are stored. most importantly information that is at odds with the statement made by trump's attorneys and. that is a point to highlight, you notice topsecret, and it is tough sometimes for the viewers to hear it, it sounds fancy, it sounds like something out of a movie. but what that means at the end of the day it literally, if this material is disclosed it could cause people to be arrested and shot on the streets of moscow, on the streets of beijing, it could compromise satellites overhead at the u.s. has spent billions of dollars on for some really advanced technology to intercept communications. this is not some secret recipe for grandma. this is stuff that causes real harm to the united states. it can cause the death of people. it can cause damage to the united states intelligence community for years to come. so it is really serious. this isn't just some document i -- it is absolutely the doj is
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appropriately taking very seriously. >> well that is part of my exasperations for what people are saying, well, in order i forced to have something really really bad that trump did. i said, well, he took the documents. and they were marked, as you said, as if that is bad enough. is the bar so low that donald trump had to do something really egregious, and then the excuses become even more egregious, more outrageous. that it doesn't really matter. i see above the law? do you understand what i'm saying? >> absolutely. it is concerning when i hear mainstream commentators talk about, is it really in the country's interest to charge him. because people are going to write. people going to be up in arms. two things. one, let's cross that bridge when we get to. it the doj's own investigation with the fbi. they're not at the charging stage. it is appropriate to go out and do this investigation without question. whether or not the charge, and i think the evidence supports, it they should. at the end of the day i am willing to bet these weren't
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just inadvertent document laying around the cheeseburger wrappers in the residence that gsa through in a box. i think that the fbi and doj will find a number of documents that are either related to trump's enemies, related to trump's business interest, related to things that trump had a very personal interest in reason to want to keep those. we knew some of these things are highly had a classified. along with strong regions. none of which are appropriate. donald trump would want them. i think you're approaching the point where would make sense and be necessary to charge him, if evidence reports it. >> listen, i do have to say will be hard for us and the people have these fantasies about donald trump in or jumpsuit, i don't think that it would be hard to put a former president in jail. i because of, quite frankly, but presidents represent. the information that they have. where would you put them? how would you do it? it is so unprecedented. look. whether not he goes to jail, whether he's charged, does not for me to decide.
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i just think would be a very high bar in my estimation. but i digress, nick, sources tell cnn that weather vessel gaiters went to mar-a-lago in june, one of trump's lawyers signed a letter asserting that there was no more classified information being stored there. that was obviously contradicting when he just went into and pulled 11 sets of classified documents. could we see more people implicated this investigation? >> absolutely part of this investigation is going to be bringing a lot of people into this country to find what they. now the fact matter is that donald trump know it is lawyer said. who was aware of these documents? being in these locations. we know that at least one or two people had to have tipped off the fbi of what was going on. just for the evidence an affidavit to be current. you can't put in a declaration i state of information from two
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months ago, three months ago, because it had to be current. so there are people that are basically laying this out to the fbi already. and the big question is that you asked in the beginning, is the real question. why does donald trump have these documents? i mean, we know that donald trump never read his intelligence briefing. he never read these kind of documents. the intelligence people really had to go in with almost picture books to explain to him what was going on. we know that he is material. we know that he doesn't really have the same love for the country that other presidents have. i mean, he has said that people who died in world won one in france were suckers. so, what was he trying to do with these documents? with these going to be sold to foreign powers. was this something that he was hiding so he could make money off of. i mean, these are the kinds of questions that need to be investigated and i'm sure will be as this moves along.
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>> listen, we don't know what we're in the documents, we don't know why he took the documents. again, the whole point is, maybe it was inadvertent. there had been many, many presidents, all the other presidents, left the white house and they abide by the rules. they follow the rules. they follow the protocols. he is the only one who didn't. when the records went to the national archives in a secure place, they decided what records should go to the former presidents, what records shouldn't, what was to top secret, or two classified to be given to the former president. the president leaving office. he did not do that or whoever, whomever, ham, or whoever packed him. something wrong was done. and someone needs to face the consequences. that is the bottom line. thank you both, thank you peter, thank you nick, i appreciate it. we have a lot to cover tonight, it's a page out of the trump playbook, if you get in trouble,
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find someone to throw under the bus, right? who is it going to be? next, i will talk to the man who knows what happens when you get on his bad side. that is out of the shadows and back in the spotlight, mr. michael cohen.
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>> excuses, deflections pouring out of the trump world since the mar-a-lago search claiming that they would have happily handed over the documents if asked. basically saying the fbi planted obvious although the documents had already been declassified. but the shifting excuses show how worried the former president's. lots of questions. joining me now to discuss donald trump's former fixer, i know you like that, michael cohen, he is now the host of a podcast and author of the upcoming book, revenge, how donald trump weaponize the u.s. department of justice against his critics. michael, good to see. you >> get to see you, don. >> listen, what a week to take off. the president and his allies are really flooding the zone with different explanations to why so many top secret
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documents were found in mar-a-lago. is the trump playbook over on the story of destruction and deflection? >> where donald trump as i've always called, him it's kept in chaos, it's to throw as much to the american public that he can in order to confuse them. because he truly believes that the american public has a two day, maybe if you're right, a three-day window of remembering what was going on. so he'll just keep flooding it. but that's why -- not why donald trump is doing it. he's scared, he's scared of the documents that they now have possession and control over because this is documentary of evidence, this is evidence that could be used against him. >> you say with the walls are closing in around him, and his next move is to find a scapegoat. >> yes, i believe that -- >> because you were a scapegoat. >> yes, and that's something that i talk a lot about in revenge. i take you from the beginning,
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where he [inaudible] all the way to the unconstitutional remained. but i believe the next scapegoat is going to be rudy giuliani. i believe -- everybody likes a could bargain. donald trump likes a bargain. and i believe that rudy is like a bug, a buy one get one half of. they're gonna throw him under the bus for mar-a-lago, and at the same time they're gonna from under the bus for georgia, for fani willis's case in georgia. they're gonna keep pointing the finger. it's rudy, it's rudy. just ask rudy. it's rudy. >> it's surprising, i shouldn't be surprised, but to watch everyone make all these excuses for what happened, and even the former president, because these excuses are starting to muddy each other now. like, wait a minute, did you just say it was something else, and you're saying it's something else and someone is going up on television, one of your people saying, it's now this? isn't the fact of the matter is
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-- you did something wrong. you just don't pack 33 boxes of classified information by accident. that just doesn't happen. >> no, not only does that not happen, he already returned more than a dozen boxes and they signed a document stating that there were no more boxes of information at mar-a-lago, which is of course another lie. but for so numb to the lies that donald has told us that no one is even thinking about, yeah, he just made another mistake. this is classified information. and he does not have the right to take it, and at the same time, he doesn't really have the right -- he didn't have the right to possess them. and the real question that i constantly bring up is not what's where the documents, it's why did he have them in the first place. and i believe it's for nefarious reasons. i believe he was gonna use it as a get out of jail free card for the government, you come
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after, me you put me in cuffs, you put me in a whole confinement and incarceration? one of my loyal supporters is going to release to the world where my new clearance it -- >> that's speculation on your part. >> that is, but it's in the playbook. >> but you did predict a lot of this. in saying that, it's interesting, because people really get upset with me when i say, of course donald trump, anyone should face top consequences -- but no one is above the law. merrick garland, the attorney general, said that as well. but our president is above the law. you can't put -- i'm just -- you can't put a former president in jail. you cannot put him in [inaudible] you can't do it. >> i agree with you. and i believe they will put him in a home confinement situation that is so severe that it will be -- especially for him -- it will be like solitary confinement. >> okay, again. you are speculating. but it's tough to put former
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president in jail, the former president knows about the nuclear arsenals, he knows about all kinds of information, information that is in those top secret files. >> and he would sell it to anybody and prison for a bag of tuna. >> again, those are your words. >> they are my words. >> so listen to this new york times reporting tonight that the -- weisselberg is close to making a plea deal and could serve five months in prison. he is not expected to cooperate with any other investigation. trump has been furious because you did not written maine as loyal to him as he wanted you to. its loyalty to wet and? >> what bothers me is that i caught a sentence of 36 months. but then again, we talk about the dust junction between the southern district of new york and the district attorney's office. the judges in the district attorney's office, they are very different than the judges at the southern district --
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the federal court judges. in the fact that, they really do get down into the mud with these plea deals. and for allen to only end up with five months when the amount of money that he didn't pay taxes on was greater, in fact than what i didn't pay, and on top of that, he refuses to cooperate -- i provided over 800 hours of cooperation. i've opened up more than a dozen investigations. >> two things, why do people remain loyal to him? >> because they are stupid. there's no other answer to that. they're stupid. i don't know what they are thinking, why they're thinking, what it is they are thinking, but they are, and they think he is going to come to the rescue in the end. no, that is not what happens. he points the finger, and he uses -- its alyn, it's michael, it's rudy, he'll throw his own kids under the bus before himself. >> considering what you went through with the former president, do you believe that presidents are above the law? >> absolutely not. >> thank you, michael cohen.
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boaters hours away from going to the polls and wyoming's primary where congressman liz cheney is facing a fierce challenge from a candidate backed by the former president. cheney is one of ten house republicans who voted to impeach trump. seven of them are either retiring or lost their primary races. liz cheney, as one of the loudest critics to push back against trump's false claims of
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the 2020 election. and she served as vice chair of the house january six committee. i want to bring you now to her senior political correspondent, puck. senior political correspondent scott janey, and political correspondent johnny them, and former republican congressman. good how all of. you happy summer, so far, almost the. and tara, listen, there's a university of wyoming poll which was really released last night that found that cheney is trailing by 29 points. a standing up to trump about to cost her her job? and is that why so few people are doing it? >> i think you are absolutely right. the issues that she standing up to trump and her constituents in wyoming, which i've been to many times before to talk to them about this, they love trump above all else and they feel like her impeachment vote, the fact that she put down the anti trump like, and it's carry that banner into the january 6th hearings does not reflect how they feel about the former president. they voted for him by 70 points.
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it was overwhelming. and i think there was no way to reconcile the two. obviously, you see from the police, the polling is always a fee but how could she really surmount hageman by 20 points at this point. i think everyone knew all along this is going to be almost a political kamikaze mission trying to take down trump when you represent wyoming. >> it is really interesting what is happening in wyoming considering that the cheney name and wyoming. i heard a report on the radio today that there was a constitutive for hageman and the reporter was interviewing him and i'm not sure if you heard this but he started crying. did you hear that? he started crying when it was tough for him to vote against cheney in this election because he felt that liz cheney had basically made herself not useful for the people of wyoming. >> it is really difficult for them. they have so much history. but then the really crazy part about it is that there democrats low-key organizing for liz cheney and they have this ability with the loophole to slip on the primary election
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from democrat to republican and vote to keep her. this is a very low-key thing happening. this is happening in jacksonville. >> could we fill this room with democrats in wyoming? >> well maybe the transplants from california, i don't know. is that gonna make a dent? >> no. not likely. there are not enough democrats. >> does it bother you when you see so many races that become all be around one man and that was the president? >> i would say that when i was in office. i was saying the republican party used to have its own self to nato chief and republican purity place who used to judge people like me. if you're not doctrine air enough you are rhino, squish, a bed-wetter. and you get called all these nasty names. and of course, here comes donald trump, who is not doctrine or. not ideological. and the mist has shifted to loyalty to a very flawed man. and so all of these chiefs of the purity police have continued to raise money they change their the myth test. they're all for free trade intent on trump comes on with, you know they change, go asked
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to come for growth. they're all good with the protectionism who wanted to be loyal to trump. that's how these groups raise money. that is where we are today. >> it is interesting that they call the people who don't support trump, rhinos, when he is not actually republican. he sort of a republican. >> we are all rhinos now. we are all rhinos. everyone is right now. speak for yourself charlie. >> i'm still a card carrying member. >> i'm a member of the party but everybody is a rhino. in their eyes you meet. who is pure? if you're not sucking up to donald trump you're not loyal. >> the goalpost keeps shifting with donald trump say don't know where you will stand. you just have loyalty to a person over a party. >> with cheney is not just a vote on impeachment with her. she made this her one and only issue. she is the leader of the anti trump opposition within the republican party. being so outspoken about his would initially cause to her leadership position in the
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house republican conference. it is obviously, if you believe the polling, gonna cost her her seat. but it seems i share something else in mind. she has raised a tiny of money, it is all federal money, it could be transferred to another presidential campaign. >> all this chaos around the rate at mar-a-lago. georgia investigation going on. if the doj investigation going on. you have to civil investigation new york. is all this worth it? for the republicans? is it? >> my view is, we do need a different nominee in 2020. and i think this fbi issue -- >> sounding like a rhino -- >> trump was, joe biden's about the worst president of our lifetime, but i'll tell, you in middle america where i, love this ip issue is called the snap back. i think it started to feel a little draft. we talked about it on the air a few times. and this thing has caused a reflexive defensiveness of trump, and i don't know what they're going to do, but this
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has at least temporarily given him a political spy -- >> i think the polls give us a snapshot in time. i think people might feel a little differently about this. former rnc director of communications was on and he sent a warning about being careful around trump. he said the chaos around trump always goes -- gets worse and trump does not give points, he only takes them away. i want you to look at this list of republicans who voted for impeachment again. that is undeniable, don't you think? >> yeah. exactly. you can't survive in the party if you turn on donald trump. and -- >> there had been some exceptions. the governor of georgia, brian kemp, the secretary of state in georgia, that entire race down there turned on donald trump's anger with the secretary of state and the governor. he was very involved in it, recruited the primary opponent. so there have been some people. and what did they do? brian kemp basically ignored
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donald trump. he just ignored him. cheney is not ignoring it. she's taking it head on, and that's her mission. but in the case of georgia where the survival happened, he just ignored the guy. >> and that's kind of like what lisa murkowski has done. that's her political survival, or what it looks like -- >> in washington state, and in california, they both voted to impeach. but they also locate their votes. they don't walk away from it, but they locate it. and they have survived. >> everybody stick around because we're gonna talk about something that charlie knows a lot about, and that is pennsylvania. gop senate candidate [inaudible] a video he's getting grief over. crudités! >> i'm not wagner's, and my wife wants some vegetableses for crudités.
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media. recall the teeny doctor is not the republican candidate for a senate in pennsylvania. osmond video back in the spring highlighting prices inflation blame president biden for it. here it is. >> doing some grocery shopping. i'm a black nurse. am i why font some batch bills for crudités. here's the broccoli, that's two bucks, that's kind of broccoli here. that some asparagus. that's for dollars. carrots. for more dollars. $10 of vegetables. we need some guacamole. that's $4 or more. and she loves elsa, $6. must be a shortage of salsa. guys. that's $20 for crudités. this doesn't include tequila. i mean it is outrageous. we've got joe biden thanks for
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this. where do we begin. veteran moxley tweeted it is called a veggie tray. côte d'ivoire -- so many questions. i lived in pennsylvania and in philly. so is it crudités, is it asparagus, it is tequila usually served with that? >> well, you know, i don't know what crudités was. i thought it was habitual drug. i had no idea there was such a term. i think that was not very helpful to doctor losses campaign. in fact there are two different stores. but, yeah, both are very popular trains. politically i don't think it would have much damage. but he's fighting this issue of not being for the state. and if you make a mistake about local stores that is not helpful to your campaign. >> do you think he was really shopping?
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do you think doctor oz shops considering, i mean look, it's okay for people to be wealthy. he but he -- he can be shocked of these price of the things that have been the same price for many years. he also had a shopping cart, he called a crudités, he's using french and wagner. it didn't feel natural. that wasn't his habitat. >> there's a long history, as you said, about bush in the supermarket and not knowing. look, what's the scanner thing? you have people who don't know what scanners are. >> the trouble with this video is that the republican candidate and republicans in general are making this race a macro. they want to make about biden and inflation and things. the federal campaign is trying to make it all localized. and live here locally. even though this was made back in the spring it does dovetail back in the. spring i think this race is gonna tighten by the way. there's been some polling that's been shown. i think we're gonna have really close races in pennsylvania.
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despite this video notwithstanding undoing oz is going to be competitive in the fall. >> let's put the pulls up charlie and show you that australia, or was trailing fetterman by 11 points. why do you think he's not getting more traction? can he do anything to change that? >> he just went to a very contentious primary we had north of $20 million competitors negatives are quite high. not just among democrats independents but even among some republicans the republicans will come home. i know this race will tighten because, right now, people really voting for red team or blue team in many cases. it is not less candidate. candidates still matter but argued a lot less and they used to because the way they move to these parliamentary voting platforms. you know where it's what's senior on. so it's likely many republicans are likely to forgive doctors. >> veggie platter our team crew day they. >> the others have heard from a lot of republican people as they feel like oz is running a bit of a lazy man's campaign after very exhaustive primary.
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he went to ireland on vacation for a week, he went to palm beach, he hasn't been doing enough of the grassroots retail. i exactly. that's a problem you're so try to get to know your state because you keep slipping up and filming videos from new jersey. in your house in new jersey. >> because of the farmers market. he's been getting around the state. but >> that's good, he got a scolding from the nra see because of it. because he wasn't doing enough retail politics on the ground and he needs to really hustle. he's coming off a very exhausted primary. >> my suspicion is that people know this guy. he's been on the tv for so many years and so if he does go out as the main suspicions that people are interested in walking up to him and say hello. because, he is a bona fide celebrity, you know don you get the same treatment? >> except i say veggie platter. i did crudités was until a couple years ago, right? >> couple of minutes ago for me. >> thank you, all i really appreciate it, good to see. >> the author, salman rushdie, not --
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mccabe is here. the former fbi deputy director and cnn senior legal analyst, elie honig, a former federal prosecutor. good to have both of you want. good evening, thanks so much. >> andrew, when you think about rudy giuliani being told our prosecutors that he is a target of this 2020 presidential investigation. the largest reminder that there are multiple criminal probes going on at once in trump world? >> it is interesting coming now, don, because we've been so distracted over the last week with the fbi search and the results of what was found at mar-a-lago we start to forget that there are these other significant possibly more significant investigations that continue to rumble on. in today's news for giuliani is just the latest in the series. have really ominous signs for him. this is an indication that he is clearly being considered for an indictment. i think we'll have a huge impact on how he testifies or which questions, if any, he actually answers in front of that grand jury. >> as you would surmise. he is responding.

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