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cnn learning right now some members of the trump inner circle are trying to convince him to release surveillance video of fbi agents executing the search warrant at mar-a-lago, the search that turned up 11 sets of classified documents, some marked top secret csi, one of the highest levels of classification. we don't know what that surveillance video might show. a source tells cnn aides aren't sure if the former president himself has seen the whole thing and we don't know if it's all just a political plot. that's a safe bet when it comes to the former president after all. but we do know that they have already seen what the fbi calls an unprecedented number of threats against agents following the mar-a-lago search but that's not stopping eric trump from teasing a release. >> you still have the surveillance tape; is that correct? are you allowed to share that with the country?
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>> absolutely with the right time time. >> we have more on this. there is a hearing tomorrow to unseal the probable cause affidavit from that fbi search of mar-a-lago. and in there is rudy giuliani who is a target in the georgia investigation of trump's attempts to overturn the election in that state appearing before the grand jury behind closed doors for almost six hours today. we don't know what he said but that's an awfully long time to say plead the fifth over and over and over again. we do however know what he said out in the open when he made completely unsupported bogus claims about voter fraud. >> you can see them counting the ballots more than once, two, three, four, five times. you'd have to be a moron not to realize that that is voter fraud. >> okay. and there is more. lindsey graham today asking a federal judge to block a ruling
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requiring him to appear before the grand jury next week. john eastman ordered to appear in front of the same grand jury. they want to know more about his alleged role in the fake elector's plot and here is something interesting, i want you to listen to what one donald j. trump then candidate for president of the united states said six years ago, six years and a day ago about classified information. >> in my administration, i'm going to enforce all laws concerning the protection of classified information. >> well, joining me now to talk about all of this and there is cnn chief white house correspondent kaitlan collins and attorney george conway. good to see you both. c kaitlan, his allies want him to throw some red meat to the base but could this also backfire? >> i think that's the big discussion happening inside his
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circle right now is whether not the pros here outweigh the conns as far as they see them. there are certainly people, don, making both sides of the argument and when it comes to the pros in releasing the surveillance footage that could be several hours long because the agents were there from 9:00 in the morning until 6:00 at night executing the search warrant at mar-a-lago is they believe it will help rile up the base and enthusiasm supporters to show here are the fbi agents taking this unprecedented action of being in a former president's home though of course this was this lawfully executed search warrant signed off by a judge but there is the other side of the coin of people saying this is not a political ad you think it is to show fbi agents going through the former president's home and showing he did take this classified material with him and they removed boxes out of mar-a-lago as they did a week ago from today. basically, there is a huge argument internally whether or not they should actually try to release this.
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one person said it's basically a matter of when they release it, not if they release it but of course, it still remains to be seen if they make the full decision, final decision to do so if they do think of course in the end that it's in their benefit. >> isn't this, very trump move? possible he actually doesn't release, he'll never release the footage just threatening to you know, saying he's going to use it in political ads? what's the point there? >> that's certainly true, as well. you may not see the extent of the footage. they could edit it. they may wait and use it only in political ads is something else we've heard is being diing disc and the latest reporting is they haven't made a final call. we should remind people the day fbi agents showed up they asked officials there at mar-a-lago, trump was not there and some of his attorneys were present. they asked cameras to be turned off. they knew there were cameras and saw people moving boxes in and
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out of that room where these classified materials were kept so they had a good idea where the cameras were. the trump team did not turn the cameras off. instead, some of the attorneys watched some of the cctv from new york. a question whether or not we're actually going to see the footage and a question as well as whether or not it would put the fbi agents that carried out this search at risk. >> yeah, of course it would. especially if you show their faces or any of it, any of the markings or anything. we're also learning about a phone call president biden made after last night's primary. what can you tell us about that, kaitlin? >> this is a call president biden made to liz cheney as we saw last night she had a big concession speech after she lost the primary, something widely expected given the battle she waged with former president trump especially as she's been the vice chairwoman of the january 6th committee and has been very public about her feelings about trump. the white house is not disclosing what was said during this call between president biden and liz cheney but the
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fact that the call happened in and of itself is notable, don because of course, these are two people who have very different political views. you heard president biden's chief of staff ron klain saying there is probably no lawmaker differing views with than liz cheney but they love the way she stepped up for democracy and that's the call president biden made to her to talk about this. there is talk from republicans about whether or not she should have stayed in her position, what she'll do on the january 6th committee going forward since she will still be a lawmaker for a few moore months but notable biden called her. >> kaitlan collins starting us off. thanks. george conway, thank you for coming in. the surveillance video, if he releases it, what does it mean for this investigation? >> i don't think it will mean anything. i think it will be a publicity stunt. watching surveillance tape of fbi agents going through boxes and papers is really not that interesting. i don't think it will be terribly exciting and if it does
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anything, it might show the volume of the material they had to go through and raise more questions about the president and his conduct. >> what possibly it could do to the agents if he shows the ate g -- agents because the agents are getting threats. >> if people can identify the agents. they released the search warrant, the names on the search warrant and it could be a way to try to -- i think it won't intimidate the fbi but a way to cause mischief. >> is there something helpful on the tapes or another way to be pulled into the trump drama? >> i think they're blowing smoke the same way they blow smoke about we want to see the affidavit in support of the search warrant. they're not going to get that but they like to have an issue to raise. they like to create some kind of ora there is something hidden, that something went wrong here, oh, look at these people swarming about the former president's property. you know, it's all about creating some kind of false narrative about jack booted
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agents and unfairness and so on and so forth. >> i'm always surprised about what he comes up with, the lies or the excuses i should say is a better word that he comes up with and the people willing to believe it. it's -- >> he throws anything at them. throw anything out there he can think of that can be inconsistent with what he said 20 minutes before or the day before and that's what we seen all the time. >> i think we're up to four or five excuses, different excuses, maybe more. this affidavit, a judge tomorrow will find out in a hearing whether a judge will unseal it. you're saying there is no way this is ever -- >> not a snowball's chance. >> why not? >> it just doesn't happen. it doesn't happen when the doj is investigating actively a case, they're not required to produce this stuff and produce this stuff publicly. they need to show it to a magistrate judge to get a search warrant but the potential defendants aren't entitled to see it and also, it's also for protecting potential defendants
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and witnesses and here, i mean, if there is any case that shouldn't happen it would be this case where you have a potential defendant who is practice trying to obstruct justice. we saw the mueller report in at least four instances. he attempted to obstruct justice and we've seen his attempts to contact witnesses directly and indirectly in the january 6th proceedings and dangled pardons publicly and got no attacked witnesses. he's got no compunction about trying to influence witnesses' testimony and actions. >> there are so many investigations going on now. i heard you speak about them. you urged caution in a lot of them. this one you believe this is different, this one is prosecutable? >> i mean, i think the january 6th case is prosecutable. i think the georgia case is prosecutable. what makes this one different is its simplicity. i way i look at this say you're the united states attorney in the southern district of new york and working on five
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families and bringing the big mob case from all these murders and such and all of a sudden you get a call from the nypd at kennedy airport saying hey, we just got these people loading up jewelry and cash off the back of a truck here and guess who was driving it? the don himself. this is a simple, simple case compared to all the other cases where there are a lot of moving parts like the january 6th there are so many different subconspiracies really that it's a little hard to keep track of. >> i just have been sort of pummeled by people saying this has to be something really big. no, he took the documents. >> he took these documents and the president of the united states is entitled to the most secret documents that the national security establishment can create. >> how serious, the legal issues rudy giuliani is facing, how serious? he met with a grand jury six hours, took questions six hours.
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you just can't say, you know, i plead the fifth. maybe you could. >> you could. former president trump spent several hours in new york the other day and all he did was same answer, same answer after pleading the fifth apparently. we don't know what happened behind closed doors. what we do know is he says he's been told he's a target and that basically means the fulton county d.a.'s office is saying we intend to indict you. >> is he in trouble? >> he is in trouble. what is interesting about the georgia investigation is they're going about it the right way. they're kind of like the january 6th committee. they're not looking at this as this one phone call that trump made to raffensperger. it was much more texture than that. you had that attempt to influence raffensperger. you had the fake electors and then you had giuliani and others giving false information to the georgia government in the form of the state legislature and that's making false statements to the government. i'm sure there is a georgia law
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against that making false statements to the legislators about votes being counted multiple times as we saw in the clip. >> george conway, thank you. >> thank you. >> pleasure. why is the former president having so much trouble finding seasoned lawyers to represent him? i should be asking you that. [ laughter ] we'll talk to a man who turned down the job. that's next. it's time for the biggest sale of the year, on the sleep number 360 smart bed. why choose proven quality sleep from sleep number? because proven quality sleep is vital to ouour health and wellness, only the sleep number 360 smarart bed keeps you cool, thn senses and effortlessly adjuststs for your best sleep. and tells you exactly how well you slept. your r sleepiq scor. our smart sleepers get 28 minutes more restful sleep per night. so, you can be your best for yourself and those you care about most. and now, all smart beds are on sale. save 50% on the sleep number 360 limited edition smart bed. only for a limited time.
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donald trump scrambling to hire new lawyers as he prepares for his latest legal battle but according to new reporting by "the washington post", it may be much harder than he expected. a number of respected veteran defense lawyers turning down the former president including my next guest. joining me now, the former assistant special watergate john sail. thank you for joining. i was having a conversation before, who would want to represent donald trump? i don't know if you'd get paid, probably wouldn't listen to you but anyway, why did you turn him down? >> well, i can only speak for myself, don. nice to see you, by the way. >> you, as well. >> without violating any confidences, i got a call. payment was not an issue.
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that really was not -- we moved on from there right away. and i was intrigued, my conversation was completely about legal issues. and there are very interesting legal issues and i think the president, former president can have zealouse advocacy that wil be ethical and won't go over the line and i actually think it's not as simple as george previously indicated. i mean, there are the different statutes, the documents that were seized, neither side knows what they have. the fbi agents, they didn't sit there studying and reviewing them and there are very serious privilege issues. i mean, there is attorney client privilege, there is executive privilege, there is a privilege eric holder asserted called deliberative process and that has to be sorted out and i mentioned there is no evidence based on what is reported that
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the president, former president specifically knew what was there, who authorized taking it and these are the things that this grand jury is going to uncover and i think i thought as a lawyer i could put my head down, avoid all the noise and just proceed as a lawyer. within a day or two, i realized i was wrong. for example, i would have wanted to stay out of politics but as soon as i heard about the threats, the rhetoric about the agents and attacks on the judge, i would have immediately spoken out and condemned that and hoped the president would also. i think it's a challenging assignment and frankly, i turned it down because i would have had to give up all my other clients there is so much to be done and i didn't have the time to do it but i think other lawyers, this is an opportunity to represent the former president. how often does that come about? >> i just asked that question to george conway, there are firms that may want to say they
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represented the former president of the united states my question is, you said you didn't have enough time to devote to it and didn't like the threats and so forth. why do you think other veteran attorneys are refusing to defend him? >> there are some law firms that just don't want controversy and they would react the same way if it was to represent hunter biden or a democrat. i think that when i say i don't have the time, i don't want to sound like i'm so busy i don't have time for the president but every client that i have i think is my most important client. i just couldn't stop what i'm doing right now. i'm surprised. despite the media reports, i would think that if law firms wouldn't object that lawyers would be very anxious to represent the president but do it right and speak up to him and give him advice they think and be willing to argue with him and if they were asked to do something inappropriate, not to do it. he's entitled -- nobody is above the law which is the cliche but
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when the attorney general held the press conference, he specifically said he's presumed innocent and so he shouldn't be held to a lower standard, either and i think in the media frequently, we forget that donald trump is presumed innocent at this point. >> yeah, listen, that's another thing about finding an attorney. i think that listen, everyone is entitled to a zealous defense. that's the american way. when you look at the history of donald trump not listening to his attorneys or not paying his attorneys, all of that could factor into and as you said, the threats and amount of time and attention that comes with representing the former president of the united states. those are all very valid reasons for people not wanting to represent him. >> well, everybody has to make their own decision and i agree with that but like i'm for example, the issue of payment, i don't know about other lawyers but i can say without going into details that wasn't a concern. that was assured and i moved on
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from that and i thought that it was a very challenging opportunity. i mean, i was on a team that prosecuted a president or pardoned and the opportunity in a lifetime to defend a president who is entitled to a defense i thought was a historic opportunity. i don't know the answer to your question. i'm not sure it's true. i'm not sure it's accurate. i think that -- oh, let me tell you one other thing. they did not give me the impression they think they have a weak legal team. there are a couple lawyers with extensive experience with the department of justice and i think they want to expand the team. >> let's talk about that then. his current team includes lindsey of florida insurance lawyer, christina bob and election denier on the far right one america network and el elena hobba is a former general counsel for parking garage company. so the question is, you know, you said that they didn't indicate they had a weak team
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but is this the legal firepower you want on a case like this? >> well, i don't want to disparg any other attorney but i do not know them but i read their names are public there are two lawyers not in florida who have extensive department of justice experience and who -- >> this is -- >> evan cochran and james trusty are other two lawyers on trump's team and they have federal legal experience, right? >> right, that's what i meant. i know it's not enough but i'm saying is a week or two from now i'd predict they'll have very strong effective additions to the team and let's wait and see. i just think representing a former president is a great opportunity but a lawyer has to do it right and has to do it ethically and has to be -- give advice that he or she thinks is correct. i think they will find counsel. good counsel with the kind of experience i have.
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i'm not the only one and there are plenty of other very good lawyers out there. >> listen, i have to ask you. i don't know if you can answer any of this because -- >> sure. >> it says below your name there you're the former -- you formerly said represented rudy giuliani. he spoke to a grand jury today for six hours. he is presumed to be the target of an investigation. do you have any comment on any of the legal troubles that are facing rudy giuliani right now? >> i've got experience in representing high visibility clients and mayor giuliani i represented in the house intelligence committee hearings before the impeachment proceeding and that worked out well. i'm not representing him in this so i really don't know what he's done or what he hasn't done or how his legal counsel is handling that. >> thank you so much. appreciate you joining us. >> thanks, don, nice to see you. >> you, as well. are they mulling white house runs in 2024? i'm talking about mike pence saying he'd consider testifying
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in the january 6th committee, to the january 6th committee as liz cheney vows to stop trump at all costs. >> i don't want to prejudge. if there is ever any formal invitation rendered to us, we'd give it due consideration. >> i have said since january 6th that i will do whatever it takes to ensure donald trump is never again anywhere near the oval office and i mean it. nurse mariyam sabo knows a moment this pure demands a lotion this pure. gold bond pure moisture lotion 24-hour hydration no parabens, dyes, or fragrans gold bond champion your skin
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congresswoman liz cheney may have been shown the door by wyoming republicans in yesterday's primary but she's
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already planning her future, vowing to continue fighting trump's election lie and saying now the real work begins. she's setting up a leadership pact called "the great task" a reference by words spoke by lincoln in the gettysburg address and saying she might consider a presidential run. >> are you thinking about running for president? >> that is a decision i'm going to make in the coming months, savannah. i'm not going to make any announcements this morning but it's something that i'm thinking about and i'll make a decision in the coming months. >> there is a lot to discuss, cnn political commentator alice stewart and s.e. cupp join us. both join us. hi. >> hi. >> hi. >> that was a big -- do you plan to run for president? mmmm. >> no. >> what do you think? >> she's got a lot to think about. she can consider it all she wants and she can run, but she doesn't have any natural voters. >> yeah. >> left.
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>> right. >> there are no natural liz cheney voters clambering for more liz cheney. democrats love her now. they do not love her politics, which she will very quickly remind them and then, you know, for folks like me, she's to the right of me. she's real conservative and any trump voter thinks she's a traitor. so i'm not sure what her lane is. now, that doesn't mean she can't be a spoiler. it doesn't mean she can't be influential and she can be and that's really what she's going to concentrate on but i don't think anyone would tell a member of congress who was just ousted by their own party in a state that overwhelmingly votes for that party she should run for president that votes for that party. >> i don't see a path for her because again, for what s.e. said, she's conservative. hard for independents right to run for office, especially as president of the united states and democrats aren't really -- she's going -- they're going to
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be reminded of her father. >> right. >> right? the -- the party her father built. the tea party and on and on. they will say well, you got ousted by the very party your family helped create. am i wrong? >> we saw the tremendous routing of her just goes to show how strong donald trump's hold is on the base of the gop and with her losing, it was symbolic of the bush cheney romney wing of the gop is in the rearview mirror. no elected office is worth sacrificing the principles we fought for and were sworn to protect and serve but at the same time, she doesn't have a constituency. who is in her corner now? i commend her for what she did. she's been an ally for the january 6th committee and a willing topic for the beltway media and a willing antagonist.
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>> and the whole republican party. >> call me crazy, i don't call that as a constituency. >> clearly, she should be commended for standing up for demo democracy. we're analyzing her path. this is not a criticism of liz cheney to say she was ousted by the very party that her family helped to create is i think that's a legit -- >> listen -- >> -- analysis. >> the world changed tremendously. 2012 democrats told us that mitt romney was a literal monster, a sexist dog killing monster. now mitt romney is a hero -- >> democrats are saying if he ran, i might vote for him. >> which is insane. you would not. you'd vilify him again but this is what happened to liz cheney. this is what happened john mccain who was always a war hero but he was also called a
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warmon warmonger and by the left revered. this is how trump disoriented and kind of flipped the political landscape. >> it's hard to, you know, to hear all the time, you know, this is not the republican party. donald trump is not the republican party. election deniers aren't the republican party and they're winning everywhere and it is kind of hard to say, you know, maybe -- maybe the mitt romneys of the world and the liz cheneys, that's not the republican. >> you have to look at the fact with donald trump when he was in office, we lost the white house. we lost the house and we lost the senate and what we're seeing now in these primary races, we're talking about the base of the party election deniers, people that embrace trump, people that did not want to certify the election results. those people are winning primaries. that is not a winning formula across the board in all of these races across the country for the general election. you need to take the glenn youngkin approach and keep donald trump in your good graces but focus on policies. >> i hear that. >> that's how you win a general
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election. >> i hear that. i want to get to this quickly. another 2024 contender, mike pence. listen to what he said about the hurling after the fbi search of mar-a-lago. watch this. >> the republican party is the party of law and order. our party stands with the men and women who serve on the thin blue line at the federal and state and local level. and these attacks on the fbi must stop. calls to defund the fbi are just as wrong as calls to defund the police. >> okay. i mean, he called out merrick garland and the doj. what is he trying to do? is he trying to have it both ways? >> earlier in the very speech he was attacking the raid, the search. >> because it doesn't look like trump is backing the blue or his supporters. >> he's not. he's ostracizing the fbi and doj because they have gone after him. we need to send a message across
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the board people serving our country whether at the doj or fbi or the supreme court when they're doing their job for the right reasons, they do not need to be the target of threats and intimidation. >> i think mike pence has worse odds of a presidential lane. he carried trump's water for four years, liz cheney at least stood up to him and mike pence again, your voters were calling for you to be hanged. they're not going to line up and vote for you if you run for president. >> what are you guys going to do come 2024? >> personally? >> you said you wouldn't vote for him. >> no, i don't see him being the nominee in 2024. >> you don't? >> there are plenty of other people that will rise to the top -- >> s.e. let me see those eyes. >> who is it going to be? >> there are plenty of other good people working behind the scenes. we're seeing them in iowa and new hampshire and making end
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roads and raising money. i can say it's not going to be liz cheney from what i'm hearing because speaking with republicans, she's on the outside looking in right now. she's no longer part of the inner circle but she can do what she wants to do by not running for president. her goal now is to keep donald trump out of the white house and out of the levere e s of power. >> don't you think donald trump will poison anyone other than himself -- >> you don't mean literally? [ laughter ] >> i had to clarify. >> he'd rather see a democrat be president than another republican. >> we saw the whole thing in 2016. he shived them all. >> you don't mean literally. >> you always have to clarify. >> thank you both. the white house has been reluctant to comment on the raid of mar-a-lago but ron klain tells me gop calls to defund the fbi are a reckless and irresponsible idea. you'll hear from him next.
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president joe biden marking a huge landmark legislation puts billions of dollars towards combatting the climate crisis and gives medicare the power to negotiate drug prices, institutes a 15% minimum tax rate for large corporations and much more. with trump once again dominating headlines after the search of mar-a- mar-a-lago, how does the current president breakthrough? i spoke with white house chief of staff ron klain a short time before air and here is our conversation. good evening to you. thank you for joining. >> thanks for having me, don. >> it's been a huge week for the biden administration to top off a series of legislative wins in the first two years of office but what americans want to know is how is this going to help
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them? will people feel the impact of this bill any time soon? >> well, sure, don. i mean, first of all, let's talk about what the impact we feel already which is seeing washington, for decades couldn't move on these issues because special interests held the power in this city. they're sitting a president and a congress come together and beat big pharma and pass prescription drug negotiation, beat the big oil companies and pass action on climate and beat the big corporations and lobbyists and pass action on bringing taxes, minimum taxes for big corporations. so they're seeing that change already. i think at the cash register, what they'll see first is rebates, point of sale rebates at the cash register when they go to buy energy efficient appliances, energy efficient dishwashers and washing machines, refrigerators, air conditioners things like that. they'll start to see next year a rule that caps the amount of
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money that the big drug companies can charge, how much they can raise the price of drugs and then they'll start to see the benefits of negotiating for prescription drugs, bringing down those costs to medicare, they'll see rebates for electric cars they buy whether new or used, substantial rebates for those. there are a lot of benefits to consumers but the biggest benefit is taking action on special interest. >> listen, it is called the inflation reduction act but the estimate is you won't see much of a reduction in inflation in year, maybe a smidge next year. i wonder if you think that will be misleading if it doesn't have an impact on inflation any time within the next two years at least. >> i disagree with that i think what inflation means to most people is what hits their pocketbook. the cost of living crisis. and if you're paying for prescription drugs, bringing
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down those costs of drugs is inflation reduction. if you're paying utility bill and you can use energy efficient appliances to bring the bill down, that is fighting inflation. so i don't think these economic measures are the measures people feel. what they really feel is what is out of their pocket every single week, every single month. this bill is going to address that. and more broadly, of course, we launched a comprehensive strategy to flight inflation at the white house. we've been bringing down the price of gas that's fallen every single day this up summer. if you can't remember the last day it happened, it's because it never happened before. >> do you think it will enough of an impact on inflation what people are paying at the grocery store as you said, the rebates or if they're paying for prescription drugs enough to affect the midterm elections because it is around the corner right now and the president and folks in the administration will have to get out and sell it. do you think you have enough time? do you think it will make a difference? >> don, i'm here at the white
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house. i'll be careful about not violating the hatch act and engaging campaigning out here. i do think what will have an impact on americans, both poll lit. >> caller: -- political parties, one political party in washington fight to bring inflation down and another give speeches about it. seeing democrats every single democrat in the house and the senate, every single one voting for the inflation reduction act and every single republican, every single one voting against prescription drug negotiation, voting against more incentives for clean energy, voting against a cap on what you spent d out-of-pocket and voting against reducing health insurance premiums. that's a choice. the american people can look at the choice and respond accordingly. >> i want to talk about the president not being briefed on what happened at mar-a-lago, the search of the former president's house. he wasn't briefed on it before hand. i understand why the white house
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wants to avoid the appearance of politics but if these documents involve national security, doesn't the president need to be briefed on this? >> no, i think, don, one reason why joe biden got elected president is he promised that he would stay out of me meddling p politically interfere enforcing our laws. that's what we have done here and in all cases since the president has been here and that's i think the right approach for a president to have to a justice department. >> the white house is coming out today rejecting calls from trump allies to quote defund the fbi. with all the threats being made against the burro, does the president plan to speak out against that and does he want republicans denouncing these threats to -- this is serious. >> yeah, it is serious, don. first of all, let's be clear. joe biden does not support defunding the fbi. in fact, we proposed funding the fbi to the tune of $11 billion in his budget this year.
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the fbi is an important institution that fights espionage by foreign powers and fights organized crime. it fights all kinds of threats that affect us. so defunding the fbi is a reckless and irresponsible idea. the president made it clear that threats of political violence have no place in our country. they had no place in our country on january 6th. they have no place in our country every day since then. they have no place in our country if they're directed against law enforcement of any kind. so his position on political violence is very clear and we are certainly not for defunding the fbi. >> are you concerned about the possibility of violence with this rhetoric? >> i think everyone should be concerned about the possibility of violence, about the threats against law enforcement. possibility of violence the kind we saw on january 6th. we have to be concerned about that. that's what we've seen in this country unfortunately on january 6th. and since then. so i think every american should have a concern about the kind of
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rhetoric we've seen. >> how is the first lady doing? >> thanks for asking. she's doing very well. she's recovering very well from covid. she's taking paxlovid. the thing about her case, the president's case, they illustrate that while we haven't made covid go away, we have prevented people, given people the tools to prevent cases of covid from becoming serious. like every person in america, she had the opportunity to and taken advantage of the opportunity to get two booster shots and the opportunity to get tests. we have free tests at covid.gov and had the opportunity to get free doses of paxlovid at thousands of drugstores around the country. so, you know, testing, boosting, that's the way you keep covid from becoming serious. those are the tools we've made available to every single american free of charge and they worked for her and they'll work evening. >> we hope she makes a speedy recovery. >> take care. so water levels at lake
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mead, look at this, lake mead is so beautiful dropping to historic lows and leading to one grim discovery after another. more human remains have been found. our report from the scene next.
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biggest reservoir in the country. as it continues to drop, despite recent monsoon rains added about a foot and a half in recent days. but it's 25 feet lower than it was this time last year, so as a result, this triggers this new round of cuts, the most dramatic going to arizona. 21% cut next year in their water allotment. they're paying farmers already not to grow alfalfa, there is worries that people may over compensate by pumping groundwater which is unregulated in arizona. just a host of cascading problems. 40% of farmers saying they're tearing up the crops or selling their animals because of this drought, as well. and gruesome reminders that the how dramatic things are, they found the fifth reported human remains that have emerged now as the lake recedes, maybe related to another set of bones found earlier, they found from world war ii that have sunk you can now see the drain, the intake drain from 1971 as it
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gets lower and lower and lower. if you think like a martini glass, the lower you get, the tighter that water gets. las vegas years ago saw this day coming, they spent a billion dollars putting a straw to the bottom of that martini glass to protect themselves. now it's a fight over the rice over the lower basement states, arizona nevada that have the storage with these reservoirs, and california which is the thirsty east of all. the water managers were hoping the feds would kind of bring the hammer down and tell them that their new mandatory cuts, everyone had to adjust to. that didn't happen. the feds are looking in the states, states are blaming each other, and water keeps evaporating. one precious drop at a time. don? >> bill, thank you. so, so said. cnn learning the former president is releasing surveillance footage from mar-a-lago search, what it could mean for the investigation. that's next.
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