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search played out in a florida courtroom today, the same fbi search that approved the warrant to look for those classified and top secret documents opened to the door to the possibility that portions of the affidavit could be made public as soon as next week. first, he's giving prosecutors the opportunity to propose redactions and explain why each piece of information should be kept from the public. the justice department says all of it needs to remain sealed. they say releasing it could, quote, cause significant and irrepairable damage to the ongoing investigation, as well as the witnesses. the judge did unseal four new documents tied to the search warrant. and there is some new info in there. last week we learned of the possible crimes the prosecutors were looking into, violations of the espionage act, obstruction of justice, and criminal handling of government records. so, now we're learning a little more about what those means. prosecutors say the potential crimes are, number one, the willful retention of national defense information as well as

the concealment or removal of government records and obstruction of a federal investigation. prosecutors also argued that they needed to keep the paperwork secret before last monday's search because the integrity of the ongoing investigation might be compromised and evidence might be destroyed. cnn also has new exclusive reporting involving donald trump's evolving defense. you'll remember that the former president claimed he had some kiechbd standing order to declassify whatever documents he took out of the white house. since donald trump is an avid golfer, we know he will appreciate the term "18 holes," and there are now 18 holes in his former. 18 former trump administration officials have put holes in it. much more on that in a moment. i'm joined my three super savvy legal minds. we have the former democratic governor steve bullock, george conway, and white house lawyer during the trump administration jim shulz.

gentlemen, thank you so much for being here. jamie gann yell reports there were 18, as we just said, former trump officials, all of whom have said they've never heard of any such blanket standing order given at the time to declassify documents. so, some of them, like mick mulvaney says he was not aware of it. john kelly, trumps former chief of staff, says nothing approaching an order that foolish was ever given. and another official says, where is the order with his signature on it. jim, you were in the white house? did you ever know of any standing order? >> i was the first year long before any of this came about. but i do think that all of those folks are right. i mean, there is a process for declassifying documents. it involves dni, the cia, the agencies that classified those documents. and in addition to that, could you imagine the outrage on the hill because it would have gotten to the hill. could you imagine the outrage on the hill if such a standing order existed? the hill would have everybody down there having oversight

hearings right away. so, no, i don't see it. i don't see it. >> governor, when you were governor of montana, could you just wave a wand and say, poof, i declassify you? >> no, you couldn't. and look, you know, we've known all along, when trump doesn't like the facts, he makes up new facts. started day one of the administration from the crowd size when hurricane dorian wasn't going to quite hit alabama, he redrew it. there's a reason why "the washington post" found 30,000 times, literally, in four years that either false or misleading statements. and i've got a feeling that we're going to find out that this is yet just another one of those. >> george, it's hard to find 18 people who agree on any of them. but somehow jamie and her team found 18. >> we almost said 19. >> i count that. who agree this is impossible. >> it's ludicrous. it's completely ludicrous. it shows you how desperate he is at this point. he's a pathological liar. he just makes things up as he

goes along. and then the next day he'll try something else and throw something else to see what will stick. it's not surprising to me at all that he would say something that absurd. and it's not surprising at all that everyone would say, that's nuts, because it is nuts. >> let's talk about what happened in court today with this affidavit. public, as you all know, president trump and his team on social media have demanded that the affidavit be made publicly. and then something strange happened in court, george. the lawyers for president trump didn't say anything about wanting it to be made public. the cat had her tongue. >> not strange at all. >> why? why is that? >> they're being three-faced about it. not two-faced about it. but three-faced about it. >> what does that mean? >> one is, they would love to see the document. trump would love to see the document. his lawyers want to see the dock youmt because they want to know who's ratting on him. secondly, they don't want you to see the document or you or you

or me to see what the document is because we'll point out the mountain of evidence against him. and thirdly, they want to create an issue for the base and the people they're bilking up money by these fundraising emails. they want to say, see, they're hiding something. so, those are the three things that are going on at once. and that explains why you had the lawyer in the back of the room saying nothing and why they keep saying, oh, we need to see this, we need to see this. >> makes sense. governor, do you think that any judge is really going to release any significant portion of this affidavit? >> it's clear that the judge wants to release something, right, or wouldn't have said, okay, doj, let's redact it, let's see what we can. and i think there is a public interest in seeing what we can see. >> oh, for sure there's a public interest. but i just don't know that a judge is going to see that it's in the public interest because it's about classified documents and witnesses. >> yeah, i don't think the judge would have even said come back to me next thursday, doj, if he

didn't want to release something. now, the redactions may be such that at the end of the day -- and there should be some, right? we need to protect witnesses. we need -- this is, as the doj lawyer said, just the early stages of an ongoing investigation. so, you want to protect all that. but if we can see anything, i think that just helps dispel some of the things that trump and his allies are throwing out there. >> speaking of trump and his allies, jim, one of the questions is, what did he want to do with all of this classified information? why was he keeping it at mar-a-lago? and one of his advisers, kash patel, really wanted to get his hands on this classified information, even the stuff that was being kept at the national archives. so, let me play for you what kash patel said last month and two months ago. >> i can tell you now that i am now officially arepresentative for donald trump at the national archives. and i'm going to march down there -- i've never told anyone

this -- and i'm going to block every document and we're going to start putting that information out next week. >> why? >> so, i don't know is the answer to that, right? i don't think any of us know. but what we do know is if doj was going after this material, there were folks at the nsc, cia, dni that all said, we need this material back. >> because it's the material of the government. it's of the public -- american public. >> but forgetting about -- yes. we want the material back for the government purpose. but in order to send 40 agents there, i guarantee you that the cia, the defense intelligence agency, and the nsc are all looking at this and saying, we need this for our purposes because it's dangerous for this country to get out. >> right. so, why do you think donald trump wanted it? what was he going to do with it, george? >> you know, i think it's always a mistake to put in donald trump's mind a complex plan.

he's completely impulsive. he's a sociopath. he's completely impulsive. and he's also a narcissist. and his pronouns are i, me, my, mine, and everything belongs to him. those were my generals over at the pentagon, this is my government. he's basically the e pit mization of the -- and he thinks all of this stuff belongs to him. >> he said that. he said, it's not theirs. it's mine. >> he's basically a 5-year-old. this is my toy. you can't take the toy away from him. you can beat him with statute. that doesn't matter. the only thing that matters is telling him, you're going to go to jail. but i don't think they emphasized it to him when he was in the critical moments of refusing to give this stuff back. and now he's in deep, deep trouble. >> do you agree? >> yeah, i do agree. and i also agree this is more than kim jong-un's love letters.

this is important stuff, or doj wouldn't have done this. we can't speculate what those documents are. but we can speculate that there's some of them that are sensitive enough that these measures had to be taken. and nobody is above the law, certainly not donald trump. and it's more than just taking a few, you know, m&ms from the white house. >> if any of us had done this, we'd already been arrested. it's crazy. if we had asked for the stuff back and we refused, come on, we would not have a snowball's chance. john bolton was on the last hour. if he had taken this stuff home, he would be in chains right now. it's absurd. translator: anyone would be. thank you very much. another top figure in trump world will be heading to jail. why do so many people around donald trump end up behind bars? that's next. new astepro allergy. no allergy spray is faster. with the speed of astepro, alalmost nothing can slow you down. because astepro starts working in 30 minutes, while other allergy sprays take hours.

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to 15 felonies in a tax scheme that allowed him to not pay taxes on almost $12 million. they did not get him to flip on his long-time boss, donald trump. weisselberg was facing 15 years in prison, but he ended up with only a five-month jail sentence. he could serve as little as 100 days. let's bring back our legal geniuses. george, back in february, you wrote in "the washington post," you wrote about this day. you wrote about this case. and you said, could this be, at long last, the beginning of the end for donald trump. don't bet on it, but don't be surprised if it is. is it today? >> no. don't be surprised if it is or isn't. but he's certainly -- i mean, this -- a lot turned on weisselberg. it was clear that the prior prosecutors, the ones who resigned, gary dunn and mark

palmer, wanted to go ahead and indict trump without getting weisselberg's cooperation. and clearly the incoming d.a. decided he wasn't going to take that risk. and that i think, made the difference. whether or not who's right, we can't possibly tell because we don't know what the evidence is. that being said, it is still a serious charge against weisselberg. he's going to five months -- 100 days -- that's going to be spent rather quickly. but he's going to spend it at rikers island. he's going to testify against the trump organization, and if the trump organization is convicted, there are all sort of remedies the court could impose on the trump organization that could be quite serious. >> you're the only prosecutor here. a five-month sentence. he'll serve 100, basically, days and it didn't work all the way up to donald trump. >> the kid's got a free deal.

he got college, a condo. >> five month in jail is worth it? >> everyone would want those employment benefits. i don't know that i would consider -- as george said, we don't know everything that the d.a. was looking at. i wouldn't consider it necessarily a win until you actually got him to turn against his own boss. but clearly they evaluate. they say, this is the best we're going to get. and they took it. >> jim, now to the trump organization. so, the trump organization, as we understand it, made $278 million in 2020. okay. so, i would think that if the case ends upbringing down the trump organization, which is one possibility, that would really hurt donald trump. however, it has $300 million worth of debt coming due. so, does donald trump care if this goes up in flames? >> of course he does. that's -- he built the trump organization, right? his ego is not going to permit him to let that go. so, of course it's going to hurt donald trump. no doubt about it. >> but is this his main business anymore. now that he's in the business of politics, is he still as tethered to the trump

organization as he was when he was a real estate mobile here? >> yeah, you saw him get out of the car in new york just a couple of days ago waving at everybody. he sees that as his business and attack on that is an attack on him. >> george, why are so many people loyal to donald trump? >> it's something beyond my comprehension. it's something i see and i know but i can't explain. i was talking about the civil case there and the fact that the accountants had abandoned him, and that was going to make it harder for him to refinance the debt you just mentioned. and that civil case is still hanging over his head. >> why do you think that's the case that could bring him down? >> well, i don't -- i think the case that's going to bring him down is the document case, which i guess we'll get to. but i think the civil case is very dangerous for him because he's played -- you know, he pled the fifth last week. >> 400 times.

>> 440 times. oh, yeah, it's overshadowed by all the other news. in a civil case, those assertions of the fifth amendment can be used to impute bad facts against him. so, the civil case against the trump organization -- and trump is very strong -- it could put them out of business. >> could put the trump organization out of business? >> him too. >> what does that mean? >> well, it means -- he's not -- the thing he values the most, the thing that has his name on it, the trump tower, he could end up paying huge fines. and they could -- they could -- under the martin act, which is this incredibly broad law against civil, financial fraud in the state of new york, they could dissolve his company. so, they could do all sort of things to him. and he's not out of the woods in new york yet, even though i doubt he'll ever be indicted. >> okay. the other side of the coin is every time he's in legal trouble, he fund raised off of it and makes more money.

with the fbi search, he's made millions of dollars in the past week, governor. >> look, which is actually another way he's breaking the law. he's sitting on $100 million political action committee, pac, money right now. said over a year ago he's running for president. said that to hannity in july of 2021. guess what? if you're committed to running for president and you're raising money, you have to file to run for president. a part of a group that sued the fcc to say, let's enforce the laws. in business, in dealing with these documents, he wants to play by his own rules. he's going to run for president, he should follow the federal action campaign act. >> you can't just raise slush funds -- >> which is what he has right now. >> he can do it until he declares for president, and that's the question. did he declare. and i think, look, i've been around politics a long time. a lot of people have gone right up to that line, certainly as far as donald trump, and have not declared and are still raising money in pacs.

>> but he literally said a year ago, i've made up my mind. probably a month ago, he said, the only decision is before the midterms or after. he introduces himself as the 45th and the 47th president. this guy, we know he's running for president. and you know we have to start following the rules of contribution limits once you've made up your mind. and that's why we're suing him. and i think at the end of the day, hopefully a federal election commission does what it should. >> i didn't know he introduced himself as the 47th president. i'm going to start doing that. that's a great introduction. thank you very much. >> classifying documents. >> exactly. governor, jim, thank you very much. george, stick around, if you would. we have more to talk about. all right. it's almost back-to-school time, and this year, parents are worried. up next, awe candid conversation with parents from across the country and across the political spectrum about their biggest fears, as their kids head back into the classroom.

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as kids around the country get ready to go back to school, their parents are getting anxious. between school shootings, teacher shortages, and culture wars, there's a lot to worry about. in the latest cnn poll, education ranks as the fourth most important issue to voters in this country, tied with gun policy. so, we want to understand why parents are so worried. and we assembled a cross section of parents from across the political and geographic spectrum. here now, our "pulse of the people." >> you've all said that education is one of your personal top issues. let's talk about what you mean by that. what most concerns you? >> the number one thing that's salient in my mind and the mind of all my mom friends is school being open and kids experiencing normal life. >> honestly, for me right now

it's school safety. as a parent, i have a lot of jobs. but my top primary job above every other job is to make sure my kids are safe. >> honestly, it is the school safety. that along with just what is being taught in schools, what's being banned from schools. >> i think my biggest concern is teachers feeling supported. obviously safety within schools is a major issue. >> my biggest concern for education is that children return to a safe, inclusive, equitable, productive environment. >> seeing an inclusive school environment and removing the politicization of teachers' contents and topics, having parent's involvement but also recognizing that schools are a diverse place students feel safe to attend. and that's a real issue here. >> let's dive into that. critical race theory. i know you have strong feelings. >> i'm an immigrant from

jamaica. i can say being taught from an early age -- and i've seen this across the spectrum of my friends -- that america is a bad place, that thanksgiving is something to not be celebrated. kids no longer say the pledge after middle school. as someone who, you know, took an oath to protect and defend the u.s. constitution when i became a citizen, it's sad. >> i'm kind of shocked because our high schoolers say the pledge of allegiance. my kids have never been taught that being white or being black was a bad or a good thing. they do book reports on martin luther king and abraham lincoln. there's no evidence students are being taught to be oppressed or feel guilty. >> no one is teaching critical race theory. all they're wanting to do is to add more truth to the history because a lot of the truth is not there. >> the fact is that when there's so much focus on the things that are tangential, as opposed to

here's history, here's reading, writing, and right arithmetic. and it's sad we tell black kids essentially, you can't get anywhere unless a white person get gives you an opportunity to. >> what have your twins been told? >> i try not to talk about them because that's their own lives. >> i'm in charleston, and i'm three blocks from the slave market where the majority of slaves came into america. here, slavery and the history of slavery and racism is embedded into our culture. we have to acknowledge it. but we shouldn't be teaching our kids that, one, white people are inherently racist, because that's not true. >> we need implicit bias training. we need tolerance, inclusion, and awareness to go into the world and to communicate and connect. and we are preparing our kids for that. what's wrong with that. >> if crt is bad, show me a

concrete example. show me the policy. >> i've seen element ri kids be divided into groups on the basis of race and told -- by the way, it's 2022. how do you pick whether you're black, whether you're white, whether you're an ally. the fact is that i happen to think segregation is bad. and i'm not going to let that go. >> let's move on. let's do the gender, sexuality, transgender issues of kids in school and whether or not -- just how it's being addressed. >> one of my children is gay. they're trying to push the, don't say gay. and it upsets me because i just want her to go to school and learn. i want her to feel that she has opportunities in this world and shouldn't have to care about the color of her skin or who she wants to live and just live a normal life. but we don't get that chance because people are telling her she can't be who she is. >> as someone who is transgender, i know that the

vast majority of arguments against gay and transkids and talking about them, it's made up. and sadly it's just a lack of awareness. people are afraid of what they don't understand. and under this law, under the don't say gay law in florida, my son in kindergarten got recognized as a star student. he had to bring in a poster that talked about him, his family, and photos of people you love. he had a picture of me. under the don't say gay bill, that teacher would have to take down that picture of me. this is not the environment we should put. >> no, no, it won't. it was specifically to address things. and alisyn, we're old now so these things didn't happen when we were young.

there were a legion of young activists who wanted to sexualize conversations in kindergarten. >> what do you mean? can you give e many a concrete example? >> you can just look at any of the shared videos on tiktok or twitter. it's people in their own words, elementary teachers saying, this is i tell all my kids to choose a new name, choose a new twitter. >> you're saying your source is tiktok with people on there saying, claiming to be teachers or whatever, and saying what they said to little kids. is that what is bothering you? >> saying that my job is to definitely open up the whole conversation of the panoply of sexuality. >> it's incredibly important for children to see their families and themselves represented in the books that are in their classroom library. no teacher -- no teacher -- is sitting down to sexualize children in kindergarten. >> well, i disagree in vanessa

in that no children is sexualizing children. if that were the case, you wouldn't see these videos that roxanne talked about. the question is, how many of these teachers are sexualizing. we need to find out, is it widespread or are they rare occurrences? >> did you ever ask the teachers? go to the schools and talk to those teachers, and i assure you, it is not happening. >> to answer your question, i have talked to my teachers, my principal. i have talked to the community leaders. it doesn't happen where i am in south carolina. that doesn't mean it doesn't happen across the country. >> we have a lot to talk about. and up next, we're going to continue this conversation with our own personal parent panel, george conway, scott jennings, and maria cardona. plus, very timely ed hadline. a judge rules on florida governor ron desantis' so-called

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sharing their concerns about their kids going back to school and how they -- how they expect teachers to address the topic lieks critical race theory and gender identity. let's discuss all of it with our own personal parent panel, george conway, scott jennings, special assistant to george w. bush -- not sure what this has to do with your parenting -- and democratic strategist marina cardona. i learn so much from my panels, and i thank them so much for their candor because they're just being honest about what they're feeling. and they're feeling anxious, and they're feeling scared. it's a free floating anxiety. everybody is obviously afraid of gun violence and school shooting. but there is a feeling kids are being indoctrinated -- i shouldn't say that, not their kids. here's where the rug is, scott. they have a hard time explaining whether their kids have ever

experienced it. but they feel it in the air because it's on the internet and they've heard stories about this, and it causes anxiety. >> yeah, well, of course a lot of videos have been posted -- i know one of the panelists referenced tiktok. they've got quite famous posting videos of people from schools. so, you get influenced by seeing that. it may not be happening in your own backyard, but you think potentially it's happening in a lot of of different places. i've got four kids. three are in school. one is in the last round of preschool. for the three that i have that are in school-school right now, my biggest issue is continuing to worry about the learning loss from the pandemic. these culture issues and ancillary issues aside, that's what's giving me anxiety. >> because that's real, scott. that's real. >> at the same time, i think that anxiety is there. and then you throw in these other cultural anxieties. so, it's what i think a lot of parents are feeling overwhelmed right now about wondering, is the school going the way i want it to go? >> i agree.

i understand. i am sympathetic to that. but the free floating anxiety. what do we do about that? this is real. anxiety is anxiety. they are truly anxious. it's about videos they are seeing. what are you supposed to do about that? it's taking root in schools and it's affecting the curriculum now. teachers are skiddish also. >> that's exactly right, alisyn. and the misinformation and disinformation that's out there is a pandemic to me because that is not just making students and their parents anxious, but it is frankly spreading untruths, and it is spreading lies. and i've got to say, you talk to all of those parents that are anxious, it be they were anxious about different things frgs right? you had some of them that were anxious about the critical race theory, about the sexualization -- which we know is not happening -- and then you have parents who were of different backgrounds who were concerned because their kids look different and how are they going to be treated. >> and also they're worried

about their kids being ostracized because one of those moms does live in florida. so, they were having to confront the parent's education rights act, which some people call don't say gay. i should mention just a few hours ago, a florida judge blocked governor desantis' antiwoke law in education. and i think we have a little portion of the law of the decision from the judge that i can read. if florida truly believes me live in a post-racial society, then let it make the case. but it cannot win the argument by muz lg opponents because without justification, the individual freedom act -- yokay i guess that's what it's called -- attacks ideas, not conduct. george, your thoughts? >> i think the judge is exactly right. you have to -- part of the things that we have to teach our children is that there are other people with other kinds of views, and you have to have some empathy toward other people's views and you have to listen to them.

and i think that to actually try to enforce some kind of a prohibition on teachers in a blunder bus fashion is not going to work. the schools have the right to set the curriculum and set the focus on the curriculum. but to basically pass laws saying particular subjects are off limits i think is just -- it's not constitutional and it's not wise. >> i think it goes further. i think it's dangerous. i think what desantis is doing is poison, and it is poisoning the kids. it is poisoning the school system. what he is passing is actually putting some of those kids in danger, kids who are gay, kids who are transgender who have parents that are, and frankly kids who are black, kid who latino who -- we just heard about a teach who are quit because her colleagues took down pictures of harriet tubman, martin luther king, because it went against what ron desantis is doing in florida. >> wait a minute, ron desantis

did not pass a wall saying you have to take down pictures off the wall. >> the message is poison. >> teachers are skiddish. they don't know. one of the complaints about this law -- and i believe the judge has said it. >> that's the fundamental problem. that's the fundamental person. >> you don't know exactly what they're supposed to be teaching or what's illegal now. >> what conservative parents, i think, are worried about is what is the focus of the classroom? what is the focus of our school? are we spending most of the time on reading, writing, arithmetic, and the fundamental building block of education? or are we spending most of our time on cultural, ideological -- whatever, however you want to label it -- >> you have kids in grade school. what's the answer? >> my view is my kids spend most of the time where we live on things i want them to learn. i have two kid who is have some learning differences. reading is our issue. that's what they do there. but you can't deny, there have some been anecdotes, some

examples of teachers who have tried to inject some things -- >> are you talking about tiktok? >> of course. it's all over -- >> scott, where? >> you can't use that as your source. >> i'm saying they're anecdotes. i'm not saying it's in every school in every classroom -- >> when you say anecdote or story of teachers injecting, are you talking about teachers who are actually teaching the history of slavery and what slaves have suffered throughout that history? is that what you mean? >> no, i'm not talking about teaching slavery. i do think there are people out there who would like to teach our children that somehow because of their racial background, they are -- they are going to be treated differently or should be treated differently -- >> they are treated differently because of their racial backgrounds, scott. >> -- and that they're inherently bad. that is an ideology that some people have, and they would like to put in the classroom. >> show me the teachers that are doing that. >> but that ideology does exist, and it is a concern for conservative parents. and that's what desantis is

reacting to. >> i hear you that it is a concern. i want to say about tiktok. i didn't know about it -- i did know about it but i didn't pay attention to it until i did this parenting panel. i forced myself to watch it -- >> it's awful. >> it was indecipherable. there are hidden camera moments. they're pixilated. >> they're people physical distance filming themselves in many cases. >> all the faces were pixilated. the audio was cut. it was a lot of video of sneakers, and you have to piece together what's happening in the video. this cannot be your -- a credible source that people are using. it just can't. >> in the virginia governor's race last year, this became a huge issue. we were told night after night after night, this isn't real, this isn't real, this isn't real, and the more the parents and kids dug into it, they found out these things were happening. it's a big issue in that race.

>> that's true. i'm not saying none of it's real. >> i think you have to draw a line. >> yeah. >> there is -- there is going to be a spectrum of approaches to dealing with these issues. and some are going to be too far to one side and some are going to be too far to the other. i would draw the line, for example, where scott is, where you don't want to teach people that they have some kind of intergenerational guilt for what their ancestors in the past -- it doesn't even make any sense. >> we can talk about this truly all night, and i appreciate all of your perspectives. >> it's happening somewhere. >> you know what -- >> you know it's happening somewhere. >> -- i have good news. we're doing this tomorrow night. part two of "pulse of the people" our conversation tomorrow night is happening also, and that's where we look at parents' thoughts on school safety and guns. coming up the nfl

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tougher penalty for star quarterback deshaun watson. so is the one they handed down tough enough? under a settlement with the players union watson will sit out an 11-game suspension and pay a record $5 million fine. he will also have to undergo behavioral treatment. at least 30 women have accused watson of sexual assault or misconduct during massage appointments. this is while he played for the houston texans. he's never been charged with a crime, and he has settled lawsuits with 23 of his accusers. watson now plays with the cleveland browns, who put out this statement earlier today on his behalf. "i apologize once again for any pain this situation has caused. i take accountability for the decisions i made." but here's what watson said just a short time later. >> i've always stood on my innocence and already said i never assaulted anyone or disrespected anyone. i will continue to say that. >> what do you apologize for? >> for anyone affected by the situation. there was a lot of people --

>> that was hard to hear. but basically he said i've always stood up for my innocence. basically he said -- >> he said i al lot of people were triggered. >> so he really doesn't mean he apoll gileses for anything he might have said. the whole thing is just i think indicative. the nfl has a problem. this is not the first time that they have had to deal with something where it shows how they devalue women. and this clearly underscores that issue right there. i mean, 5 million? that's chump change for him. right? that's nothing. and he's going to continue to get to do what he wants to do. and sure, they'll say oh, but he's innocent until proven guilty, all of that. you know, he deserves a second chance. sure-e might deserve a second chance so he doesn't go to jail. doesn't mean he gets the privilege of being a sports hero and making a gazillion dollars. >> he's had more than a second chance. there are two dozen women who have said this. george, your thoughts?

>> if one tenth of what has been alleged is true he deserves a lot more than what he got. and i do agree. the nfl obviously has a problem because the arbitrator, the former judge, robinson, who issued the first decision, which was much more lenient than even this, basically said she was constrained by looking at past precedents at the nfl. and you know, that means that they just -- they're not doing a very good job of policing their players. >> but i think they're all over the map in terms of the nfl penalties. we have a graphic of some of them. i mean, so he gets an 11-game suspension, $5 million fine. then deandre hopkins for performance-enhancing drugs, six-game suspension. tom brady for deflategate, four games and a $1 million fine. martavis bryant, marijuana use, a one-year suspension, indefinitely since 2018. it just -- what do you think, scott? it's all over the map. >> well, all over the map. i think, you know, how can you judge if something is fair if there's no standard for punishment for the different

things? my view is we either treat women with respect or we're not. he didn't according to the women. never been charged with ai crime but obviously there were a lot of instances. i agree with you, i think the nfl does have a problem. as a public relations person with that in my background today i was like look at this statement, this written statement is amazing. and then they put him in front of a camera and then we learned what he really thinks. and that's ultimately negated all what they were trying to do with we're setting up a fund to do this and we're going to donate to that, and then he shows up in front of a microphone. so it added to the credibility problem that they have in my opinion. >> roger goodell called his behavior egregious and predatory. but i don't know how you put a price tag on that or what it means for sitting out games. >> he's coming back, by the way. when he comes back he gets to play -- >> right in the playoffs. >> he gets to play against his old team. it's going to be like a huge marquee -- just remember, business always wins. >> well, it's interesting you say business. because alisyn, if he had done

this in any other company he would have been fired. >> exactly. >> he should be fired. if goodell really believes what he said about it being egregious and predatory, he should be fired because no ceo would want an employee that is egregious and predatory. he should be fired. >> why aren't they firing him? >> i mean, i guess it's the economics of it. football is a big business -- >> it is interesting. watson's saying i'm innocent and his boss saying you're a predator. i mean, he's basically challenging goodell. it's an interesting dynamic. >> it's interesting too because the -- >> the power dynamic between the management and the players is really interesting. >> and the players -- the nfl players association agreed to this settlement, which was increase over what the arbitrator had agreed to. which means even they realized -- >> it was bad. >> yes. >> all right, folks, thank you very much. great to have these conversations with all of you. and we'll be right back. g that r chronic kidney disease in type 2 diabetes could progress to dialysisis is important. b is for belief that thehere may be more you can do.

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