jupiter's rings and two of its moons. nasa says the fuzzy spots in the lower background are likely other entire galaxies. that's for us here on earth. the news continues. let's hand it over to laura let's hand it over to laura coates and "cnn tonight". -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com >> i want to know about that other galaxy back there. that's a whole new show, a new series. thank you so much. everyone, i'm laura coates and this is "cnn tonight." it's been two weeks since the mar-a-lago search, two weeks. and now donald trump's legal team has gone on the offense finally. i should clarify, i mean the offense inside of a courtroom, not the court of public opinion. now, they filed its first lawsuit since the fbi searched and seized items from the ex-president's home exactly two weeks ago today. and there's a whole lot to unpack. first, let's begin with exactly what trump is now asking for in this filing because in this new

filing today, there is about four main requests. now, one is for a special master. that's a third party to be appointed by the court, who oversees the review of the evidence, on either side of the parties. another ask they have is to pause the doj from reviewing the evidence until that review by the special master has been completed. they're also seeking a more detailed receipt, shall we say, of the property that was removed from mar-a-lago, and they want doj to give them back whatever not within the scope of that search warrant. now, in this suit, trump argues his constitutional rights have been violated, and now there is also confirmation of previous reporting in this filing that trump tried to get some sort of a message to attorney general merrick garland three days after the search. let's just say that message is probably equal parts unconventional and entitled. it says, counsel for the former

president spoke by phone on august 11th to the top counter intelligence official at the doj and discussed the following message, and i quote. president trump wants the attorney general to know that he has been hearing from people all over the country about the raid. if there was one word to describe their mood, it is angry. the heat is building up. the pressure is building up. whatever i can do to take the heat down, to bring the pressure down, just let us know. i wonder if that was code for, back off, garland. or maybe a mixture between a lin-manuel song and ferris bueller not being able to take the heat. that was cameron fry, for those of you listening from the 1980s. he put an exclamation point, by the way, on this statement. >> no person is above the law in this country. i can't say it any more clearly than that. >> and he will be asked again,

of course, we know. the doj put out a statement tonight saying, quote, the august 8th search warrant at mar-a-lago was authorized by a federal court upon the required finding of probable cause. the department is aware of this evening's motion. the united states will file its response in court. response now from elliott williams, who was deputy attorney general at the doj, also here evan perez, and doug heye, former rnc communications director. i love the smile shot, announcing that moment in time. look, it's been two weeks since the search on mar-a-lago. the big question is, i mean, why now is the filing? why wait so long? we know there has been a history in the past of having a special master review for privileged documents in the michael cohen case, right? so, why do you think he's waiting so long now? >> look, it's been a mystery. we've been talking about this

actually for a couple of weeks. and we frankly thought it would have happened the day of the search or certainly in the days afterwards. what this is, if you read the document that they filed in court, is partially a pr strategy, right, which is to air the president's grievances -- the former president's grievances -- about the previous investigation. but there is something here that if he had done it earlier perhaps might have worked. there still might be a judge's ruling that will help him here, which is to pause the justice department, make the fbi stop what it's doing, and perhaps delay this while you have a third party come and review these documents. the former president could argue argue, and people have been successful in saying, you know, your search warrant was overly broad and took things that should not have been taken.

there's attorney/client material in here that should not have been taken. all of that. you have people who succeed with judges, but certainly waiting two weeks is way too long. >> it's not that it's way too long. it's the simple fact that the justice department has had access to this evidence these two weeks. they had it already. even if he had an argument or even if he has a legal case for saying there were personal documents in there or other things that should not have been swept into the search, the justice department relieved it already. were he to do it within a day or two, it might make sense. i would go further to say this is largely a political stunt more than a legal document. >> that's the thing. you're not talking about what makes legal sense. you're talking about the court of public opinion. it's the idea of saying hold this ice cream cone and don't eat any of it and it's a week later. it's a hot day or not, it's gone. if it's me, it's gone. the idea here of thinking, what

is his end game? is it to say, first, i want you to release everything. and you know what? they're probably going to look at privileged information. are they trying to make the case in the public opinions' viewpoint. >> what we've seen from did the over the past several years is that his legal team is not exactly consistent or always diligent. so, they make mistakes. they delay, not intentionally sometimes. as they try to slow things down, they also just aren't as organized as you would think a former president's legal team would be or even a current president when he was president trying to challenge the election rules. he's done well in the court of opinion. he's done what he wanted to do because in part merrick garland gave him a two-day window to flood the response. trump certainly feels comfortable with this is a political move whether it's a legal move or not. >> by the way, on your point about being successful, the

mar-a-lago issue is actually boosting trump at least in the polling. whether you like it or not, whether you think it's truthful or not. there was an nbc news poll that came out and voters were increasingly saying they're more a supporter of trump than the republican party overall. look at these numbers. we've got 34% who, you're a greater supporter of trump. they're greater now than perhaps they were back in may. that's a pretty big number. is that part of the calculus here, doug, that the plan was, hey, i go from the january 6th hearings, when i am looked at disfavorably to say the least, i'm kind of persona nongra da, and now the victor. >> donald trump plays the victim well. he's victim number one. he's alpha dog of the party but also the number one victim. the way this was done without an immediate doj response gave trump that real opportunity to declare himself the victim and, by the way, raise a lot of money

doing so. >> the justice department could do a better job of talking about what it does. the problem is -- having worked there as a deputy assistant attorney general for several years -- at a certain point when you open the door to talking about certain investigations, you're opening the dooring to jeopardizing witness safety, the case you're working on, evidence, and so on. so, the tactic has been for decades, centuries, just not to talk about them at all. he could say -- he could say our folks have integrity, and when the facts and the law lead us somewhere, we'll go there. but it's hard to say what -- where that line is. >> yeah, and plus the problem is -- you know, evan, you've got new reporting on an issue where normally the government is quite secretive and holding close to the vest out of necessity when it comes to, say, grand juries, let alone the affidavit ruling by the judge to say, look, it can't all be under seal. something might have to give. but you've got new reporting for us. >> yeah, so, this is, i think, part of the strategy here is

trump is trying to distract people from the other investigation, which is the january 6th investigation which arguably, frankly, is perhaps more perilous for him. and we learned that -- my colleague jamie gangel and i learned that the justice department had sent another subpoena to the national archives. this is a grand jury subpoena. this is his second one -- which is seeking additional documents in addition to what they had earlier gotten back three months ago which, you know, that first request was for stuff that the archives had produced to the january 6 committee on capitol hill. so, this is a subsequent request where the justice department and tom wyndham, who is the prosecutor looking at the broader picture of what happened here, which was the effort to impede the transfer of power, getting these fake electors organized around seven states. they're looking at the higher

crimes, right? possible crimes, which could include the former president and his allies. this is very perilous for the former president because you see a prosecutor now who saw what they got from the first documents and says, i want more. and i know that there is more that the archives has that we need to have as part of this investigation. >> man, there's a lot of things happening. a lot of juggling all these things. evan perez, thank you so much. doug and -- please stick around. listen, ahead, we've got an extremely violent arrest that was captured on video. and it's sparked a whole lot of conversations now about police, again, crossing the line. we have two guests here who will dig much deeper into this incident, an attorney for the suspect who was beaten by the three officers, and the governor of arkansas, as his own state and the feds are investigating. next.

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well, there's another controversial arrest recorded on video, and it's reviving a very important conversation about the use of violence and the use of force in policing in this country. now, we're about to play this video, and i'm going to warn you that it's very disturbing to see what is transpiring. and we don't know the full context yet behind what sparked this incident. we only know what we can see with our own eyes of what happened after a man was apprehended just yesterday outside of a convenience store in arkansas. look what you're seeing right there. it's enough to spark a civil rights -- a federal civil rights investigation and for the state to launch an immediate investigation as well. and as for the two deputies

involved to be quickly suspended and one officer involved to be placed on administrative leave. enough for the governor of arkansas to call their conduct, quote, reprehensible, even before the full story comes out. i mean, look what you're seeing and compare it to what you're seeing with the man on the ground and the number of officers that we are looking at here. and that governor, asa hutchinson, is going to join us live in just a few moments here. but first we have an attorney for this suspect, who was seen being brutally beaten on that video. that man was released from jail on a $15,000 bond just this afternoon. remember this happened yesterday. his counselor, david powell, joins us now. david, thank you for joining us today. you know, i've seen this video, unfortunately, multiple times, as have many, many people. and it's very disturbing to think about the level of force that's being used. and i just wonder first of all, how is he physically doing right

now? looking at what sort of violence he is enduring, i wonder about his physical state right now. >> well, laura, first of all, thanks for having me this evening. randall is actually in very good spirits. i actually visited with him last night, visited with him again today. obviously he's sore, as you and your users saw on the video. he's got three officers on top of him pummelling him, punching him, kicking him. according to my client at one point his eye was gouged. you can clearly see the injuries. he's one of the most soft spoken people that you're ever going to meet, and you know, he -- at the end of the day, you know, we want justice for him. and watching this video and what happened and what he endured. as far as his injuries, there are injuries to his face, his knees, his elbows.

one side of his head was really swollen and bruised. he had to sleep, i believe, on his right side because he couldn't even sleep on his left. you can see one of his ears was purple and bruised and swollen. he was given a shower yesterday evening, i believe. he had some sort of medical examination here at a local facility. but even today, you can still see some of the injuries. there was blood still somewhat oozing from one side of his head unfortunately. >> let me ask you, david. thank you for giving us the detail because it's important to understand. you are his lawyer, why? you are his defense attorney because he was actually still put in jail. is that right? >> that's correct, laura. yeah. >> why is this even coming to the -- i don't want to cut you off, but i do want people to understand why it is he was placed in custody. >> he was arrested at that gas

station. and there were arrests on maybe nine -- eight or nine different charges, everything from assault, battery, i believe carrying a weapon, criminal mischief, a whole plethora of charges. he was taken into custody, and laura, as of last night, he didn't even have a bond set. we had to reach out to the local d.a.'s office, attempt to get a bond set. and as you know, he was released this morning. >> what do you make of the decision to place these officers, some on suspension, one on administrative leave? has this communicated to your client? and has it impacted in some way the prosecution's conversations with you about -- there's claims here he's trying to resist arrest. you can see what is or is not happening there. has this had an impact on your conversations? >> it has. you know, again, when i first met with randall, he had no idea that this was floating around,

the video was floating around. and you can see for yourself that he's not resisting in what's at least 30 seconds of video there. and speaking to randall, he indicated that this went on for a couple of minutes as far as the beating that he was on -- that was taking place. i asked him what sort of commands were they giving him? were they telling him to put his hands behind his back? he said, no, they just continued to wail on him. if that bystander had not been filming this, nobody would know about it and he would probably still be sitting in this detention center right now. >> i mean, is that the full video we're seeing? it seems as though just from looking at it, even in cursory review, it's either catching something in the middle -- we haven't seen the beginning, the middle, maybe the end. what -- is this the full tenure and duration, excuse me, of this entire attack? >> no, i believe that it's not. we have reached out to local

da's office, and there is other footage available. i believe there may be a dash cam, which we've not been able to see yet. and i know that at the press conference earlier, the local sheriff's office seemed to indicate that there wasn't body cam. but now i believe that there may actually be at least one body cam that may show the entire ens dent. so, hopefully we're able to see that in the near future. >> david powell, thank you for letting us know what's happening. and we will follow this story as well. we appreciate it. >> thank you, laura. and we're going to take this conversation next to somebody who's already been quite outspoken about this. it's the governor of arkansas. and we're going to ask asa hutchinson about the investigation his state has launched into this matter. we'll get his take, the republican governor's take, on the criminal investigation related to classified documents that were seized from the former president donald trump's home. all of that is next.

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so, i want to get now to the governor of arkansas, who frankly has stepped out in front of this investigation to call the actions of what we saw from those deputies on the screen reprehensible. he said their response was not proper and not consistent with their training.

and i applaud him for getting out in front of the issue. governor asa hutchinson joins us now. governor, welcome to the program. it's nice to see you, although i have to say, not under these circumstances. that was a very difficult video for so many people to watch even in the long line of cases and long lines of investigations we've seen involving use of force. i wonder what was your impression, governor, when you first even learned of this happening just yesterday. >> well, i learned about it just like everybody else, when it went on social media. and i found it very disturbing. and i issued a statement shortly thereafter. but i do really applaud the county sheriff and the chief that took immediate action for suspension with an investigation, the prosecuting attorney within hours indicated that investigation was going to take place, asked the state police to lead that investigation. and that is going on now. a

and, as i said, we have incredible, wonderful law enforcement officers in arkansas. what you see on that video is not consistent with their training, nor does it represent the effective law enforcement we have in this state. we will see more whenever we have additional footage that comes out. so, we do want to wait and see what that shows. but what we saw just like everyone else, it was very disturbing. >> well, i could not agree more about one of the reasons it could be so disturbing is because it's not what you come to expect from somebody who asked for the opportunity to be a peace officer, right? the idea we're not recruiting and having to assign the role of police officer. you want to believe that there are good intentions and that there are those who honor the badge. i'm wondering, are you getting any clarity so far as to what took place before what we saw on the video? has the investigation essentially reaped any information that you have been privy to? >> well, i have talked to the chief of police. i've heard a little bit more

information. but you obviously know from the charges that were filed that there's more to the story. and there's actions that preceded the -- what you saw on video. and so to see the whole story, you're going to have to see what happened before and also the witnesses that might have been threatened. and so let's wait and see that. but regardless, it still concerns me that a law enforcement officer with proper training has to be able to control the circumstances. and that was not something that, whenever i talked to our training officials, that's not consistent with that. that was, in my judgment, excessive. but let's wait for the investigation to be completed. >> governor, can you ensure that the body camera footage, if there is some, or dashboard camera, if there is available, will be made public for that opportunity for the public to understand what has happened here? >> that's really a decision that

the prosecuting attorney will have to make. it will be under investigation. so, generally those things are held until the investigation is complete. that will be his determination as to when and if that is released. obviously there is a public interest now that this is out there to be able to see the entirety of it. and it will at the appropriate time. >> which, honestly, almost the per sect segue to what i really want to know about as well, governor, and the idea of calls for transparency, the extraordinary amount of public interest. one can only think about the two-week-old search on mar-a-lago. and you have had quite a lot to say about this issue. what has been your impression about that decision to search the home of the former president donald trump? do you believe that transparency is still required, the understanding of having more information than less? >> i do.

and i conquer that the silence of the attorney general for two days was very harmful in terms of having the public understand what is happening. they didn't have enough information. the former president trump controlled the dialogue for two days. and so a lot of public opinion has already been formed. hopefully the judge -- and i believe that he will -- will soon order that the probable cause affidavit be released. i'm sure that some of it will be redacted to protect names, to protect certain information. but hopefully that shed light on what happened and the reasons for it. the public has to know what is going on here to have continued confidence in the department of justice and their actions. and silence is not the right approach, even though that is the normal way, as you well know, that generally the department of justice does not

comment on these type of searches. but you've got to know when you go into a former president's home whenever you do this kind of unprecedented action that you're going to have to say more to the public than ordinary. >> well, the former president could have been expressive about what he had and could have been more in line with what we've heard from the doj about this issue to date. but i do wonder what impact do you think this has or should have going forward? we're thinking about, i know the midterms are right around the corner. but 2024 seems to be perpetually on the brain of so many people. it's likely on your brain as well. you're now a term-limited governor, well respected. i'm wondering if that should have the impact on the potential viability of a donald trump campaign, and does it have an impact on your own thoughts? >> in the short term, you could almost give the attorney general the title of honorary fund

raiser and campaign manager for donald trump. i think it's important we keep the public interest in mind. the public interest is making sure that classified information, sensitive public documents, are returned to archives, to their protected environment. it's not appropriate for these documents to be running loose at mar-a-lago. that's not appropriate. that has to be returned and secure. and then this whole thing needs to be wrapped up. unless there's something that is totally oblivious to the facts that we know now, this is not something that i see leading to indictments. i don't see that. it needs to be wrapped up. and i hope that can be accomplished in the future so that we can get on with the business of the country and get the documents restored. and i think that was the motivation of the department of

justice. but who knows whenever they have not spoken clearly about it? >> governor, on that point, wrapping the whole thing up, if it's clearly inappropriate to possess those documents and have them holed up in a place like mar-a-lago, as you've said, then why wouldn't accountability look like -- if there has been a violation of the law, why wouldn't accountability look like an indictment or some sort of prosecution? >> well, that's a great question, and that's exactly what has to be weighed by the department of justice. accountability is important. but i do believe -- and i've thought a lot about the comparisons with former secretary of state hillary clinton. there was reckless handling of classified information, extremely reckless, i believe was the words. it was investigated. and the ultimate decision was not to pursue any criminal case. that could very well be the outcome in this matter. in the public interest, as you

know, there should be a high likelihood of securing a conviction if there is an indictment. just as importantly in the broad public interest of the former president of the united states, this needs to be concluded unless there is such egregious conduct that cannot be ignored, then we need to bring this to a conclusion. once the public interest and securing the documents is obtained. >> if there is an analogy to be made between donald trump and hillary clinton, i do wonder how supporters of trump will view that analogy, would be confident in the same way and articulate in the same way you have to what they wanted in the lock her up chants and what you're seeing with the former president. governor asa hutchinson, thank you so much. nice speaking with you this evening. >> thank you. good to be with you. well, we're going to turn to this in just a moment. the real estate market has been super hot in recent months, but not for everyone who should be enjoying the benefits. who in particular? well, some black homeowners say

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now, look, maybe when you think of whitewashing a home, you're thinking hgtv, a little bit of discovery originals, magnolia network, thinking about a new coat of paint. but, no, a maryland couple says they whitewashed their home, but they don't mean home. they pretended to be white in order to get a fair appraisal. this is nathan conley. they're both professors, by the way, at johns hopkins university who live the in a wealthy neighborhood. they're suing a lender who appraised their home at $472,000. the couple said that was well below the conservative estimate, and they were denied even a mortgage refinance. so, they decided to get a second appraisal. but this time they took down all of their family photos and they had a white colleague show their own home. and guess what happened this time around. the value shot up to $750,000.

those of you doing math at home, that's nearly $300,000 in difference. and this is not an isolated incident. it also happened to this black couple in california. oh, and to a black homeowner in indianapolis. i want to bring in someone who is accountable on the issue of racial bias and housing as part of a new segment we're calling "the conversation" where we go beyond the headlines, beyond the sound bites, and dig deeper into the real issues. marcia fudge is secretary of the department of housing and urban development. and she joins me here tonight. madam secretary, welcome. i'm really glad you're here. thank you. >> thank you. it's my pleasure to be with you. >> madam secretary, i have to tell you, the idea for some of this notion of having to whitewash a home or even whitewashing a home to get a different appraisal, it might be stunning to some, not personally stunning to me. i grew up in a house where my parents were often denied

housing applications, rental applications because they were black, because we had a black family. but the idea it's happening in 2022 is stunning to a lot of people, that it's still happening. can you explain a little bit about what your reaction is to this personally but what your agency's reaction will be professionally? >> i think professionally and personally, it is an absolute violation of the law. it is a violation of the fair housing law. it is a violation of the lending law. so, what had yud is doing and w we have done already is we were tasked by the president to look at appraisal bias. it used to be that these thinged happened only in redline communities. now it is pervasive. it is happening everywhere. we determined that part of the problem was how appraisers were trained, who was in the appraisal industry, and how they're governed. so, what we did in march was to

present a report that showed how deeply this whole bias situation is across this country. it is systemic. and it is intentional to some degree. so, what we have already done, laura, because i try to look at how we can make things better. what we've already done is had the appraisal subcommittee say to every single state in this country, the test that you use is no longer valid because it is a violation of the fair housing law. >> well, what was that test by the way -- excuse me. what was that test? what test could you be using to give that lower of an appraisal compared to if a white colleague shows? are these subjected criteria? is it not an objective process? >> no, the test was to become an appraiser. >> okay. >> that's the test i'm talking about. >> okay. >> but what we have looked at is how data is collected. that's part of the problem, laura. it's the data. so, they collect data and the

data is not what it should be. they then use the data in a way it should not be used. so, we come up with these biased appraisals. but as well when you look at an industry that is more than 95% white, you find that people of color are treated differently because there is an inherent bias with a lot of them. and because they collect the data, the data is not good data. >> now, of course you can imagine that there are many people who will look at this and say, maybe this is just isolated incidents. the idea that this is the plural -- our anecdote is not data. this, as you mentioned, is systemic. i wonder to what degree this has even been looked at before. i know that you in the situation you're in have been very outspoken about this issue. and most people think about these issues in terms of redlining exclusively, not in the appraisal. is a novel conversation that's

happening right now in this administration that hasn't happened before, or there hasn't been the political will prior to now? >> it has not happened before. this is the first of its kind report. this is the first of its kind subcommittee. it is called property appraisal -- property appraisal valuation equity. what the president has said is that we have to look at everything through a lens of equity. so, what we have realized is that people selling homes, just as the person you were talking about, and even people buying homes, if their appraisal is not correct, what we find -- especially as black people and communities of color and underserved communities -- is we lose great wealth just through the appraisal process. if those homes are appraised the way that they should be, laura, then we look at being able to pass down significantly more resources and more wealth to generations that follow. but if we are constantly undervaluing communities of color either because they're communities of color or that the person themselves is in a

community that they don't think they should be in, then we consistently lose wealth in our communities. and that's why this is so important from an equity situation. laura, let me just tell you about my own home. can i do that real quickly? >> i hope you do. >> i live in a community that is two doors from an all white community. i live in an all black community, two doors literally from an all white community. my lot size bigger, my house is bigger than the house two doors down from me. but my home is valued $20,000 less than me because i live in an all-black community. it is personal to me. we have to find ways to create the kind of wealth our communities deserve. and if we are constantly being discriminated against -- and that is really what this is. we can call it bias if we want. but it is systemic racism and it is built within most federal agencies and those agencies that

we oversee. so, we're tackling it. we're now advising first-time home buyers on their rights. if they get lower appraisals, we are doing it to people who sell properties. we are going to train through fair housing and lending laws. we're going to make sure the data is collected properly, and we're going to make sure that the right people have the data. that's our goal at least in the short term. >> and in the long term i hope that equity will be achieved. secretary fudge, thank you so much. >> absolutely. >> i appreciate it. we'll be right back. >> thank you. thanks for having me.. our smart sleepers g get 28 minutes more restful sleep per night. all smart beds are on sale. save 50% on the sleep n number 360 limited edition smart bed. ends monday.

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replicated states all across this country. in fact, take a look at the stories that happened outside the belt where most of us live. affecting regular americans and our new state called a state of play. back with me now i get it williams and that high-end maria cardona. maria, when you hear what is going on. you heard the issues culture wars. what is your impact? >> my thought, as a parent, and have two kids that are about to go into school. i think, goodness, that my kids are going to school in washington d.c.. and open progressive said he did actually likes the fact that we are a diverse culture. that knows that diversity is a must not just here in washington but in our country. it pains me to hear stories of teachers, and i've heard them personally, i have friends who are teachers. in florida and in texas. two of the states where this is happening front and center. where they say, i'm going to leave. going to leave at the end of this year. because they're not letting me teach real history.

they are not letting me teach that diversity is actually a plus in our country. they are not letting me teach these kids, these diverse kids in my school, are living each and every single day. that is a shame and i think it is not just hurtful in this country, and to our kids, but i think it is dangerous. >> to take a slightly different approach. i have some sensitivity to this argument that parents ought to be able to weigh into what their kids are taught. parents all have something to say about it. it is important. but when you start looking at what's that meaning in practice now. in terms of books that have been banned. i am rosa parks. has been bent. by a school district in new york. mouse, by arms spiegelman, perhaps the greatest book written about the holocaust ever if not a very important one. and 37% of challenges to books that were happening in public libraries, not just schools. this is about taken way

material not just from kids but from a side very valuable. that, to me, it's corrosive and destructive. so schools are this launching board -- >> part of the problem, elliott, you mentioned watching the d.c., mentioned states that are in the metropolitan areas. there's a big mound from minnesota. you could see it all over this call fly over the country to talk about this. they'll, measure the value that they talk about, the input. would you think would happen? >> there are political impacts. we saw this move specifically in -- it ran on education. broken opening schools which have been closed for so long. and big fights with teachers over that with the curriculum was. we need to teach our history, we need to teach the parts of the bad parts. the reality is that on either side -- i just right in texas today that the high school is named after a man named george dos, grandson of a slave, learn to read the age of 98, wrote a book about it at 103, the school is named after him. they can't read his book in the school named after him. that is crazy. but we have to come at a better place where everything doesn't

get politicized immediately. we say all politics are local, there are national now. >> there is a problem duck, you mentioned virginia, and what glenn youngkin did was a huge dog whistles up with very parents. and i can understand that fair. because, if you talk about things like critical race theory in a way that he talked about it. by the way, critical race theory as we all know is not taught in schools k-12. but he talked about it like it was. like it was something to be afraid of. like it was something that was indoctrinating the kids. that, to me, it's fearmongering. >> then he campaigned on education, open the schools, let's let our kids learn in schools. there's a teacher shortage, there's also student shortage. our kids, with the parents, are voting with their feet. 2 million kids are not in schools compared to last year. 1 million college students. that is a crisis. >> that is a huge problem. but what is happening, way too much, across schools and specifically in conservative maga agenda loving republican governor states. is that. they are fearmongering.

they are not looking at what this country look like now and where is it headed. this is about fear of a demographic that is changing in this country. this is about fear of a country that is becoming majority minority. it is not leaders who don't understand how to solve those problems. and just fearmonger instead of allowing open discussion about the fact that we are all part of this great country. one of the greatest things that my parents did when i came from columbia, an appearance by this from columbia, he sat down in a town in florida with all of our neighbors. we were the only latino family on that block. and in that town. he invited everyone over to dinner. to make them understand that we were no different from them. we need those types of discussions. >> but the fact that had to happen is really telling him a country like this. what they did that would've been a concern. you must demonstrate to you

that i'm just like you. and frankly, that is one of the saddest parts. i've applied your initiative but that is really quite telling where we are. >> simply saying and convince people that you are right is more than that. >> well, so much more to talk about here, and gradual are with me, mark, maria cardona, elliott williams, thank you so much. everyone, we'll be right back. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ "shake your thang" by salt n pepa we're carvana the company who invented car vending machines and buying a car 100 percent online now we've created a brand new way for you to sell your car whether it's a year old, or a few years old we want to buy your car so go to carvana

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