reporting, donie. i know you spent so much time on. it u.s. of our colleagues. so thank you so much for that wonderful exclusive reporting. of course the story is far from over. capitol hill will certainly want to play a role in what comes next. win donie o'sullivan, think. you and thank you will also much for watching. i am alex -- , but erin burnett starts out front. out front next. a federal response to trump's -- giving the former president for one why he wants a better view of documents taking from mar-a-lago. as well as learning new details about the tutor shooter involved with the material at mar-a-lago. plus, thousands of immigrants at the southern border showing up in d.c. and new york city. it is a new york is asking, what about our needs? and, it is election day in america. new york raising -- between two political heavyweights, that could turn

personal and nasty. accusations of being senile and gullible. up next up front. good evening everyone, i'm kate baldwin in for erin burnett. up, tonight trump under pressure. former judge pressing the former president for more answers tonight. giving trump's legal team a deadline to explain his request for a special master to leave a review of the evidence that the fbi took from mar-a-lago last month. the judge, who was nominated to the bench by trump in 2020, is also questioning why trump's -- believe that trump has jurisdiction to even get involved in this case. this comes as we are learning new details tonight about how many sensitive documents trump was storing at mar-a-lago. in this lead of the national archives released today, the agency told trump's legal team it had discovered more than 700 pages of classified documents, in 15 boxes back in january. when the archives first visit mar-a-lago. those boxes, by the way, do not include with the fbi took from trump's home this month. it is a lot of boxes.

the letters go on to say the documents in mar-a-lago included some of the most sensitive government secrets. materials that should only be viewed in secure government facilities. not trump's florida retreat. according to the letter, officials were so worried about the security lapses that the national archives took the rare step of sharing the documents with the intelligence community, because of fears that america's national security could be a risk. serious concerns, even some republicans are sounding alarmed. republican congressman chris stewart from utah telling politico this. i, mean if he had an actual special access program, do you know how extraordinarily sensitive that is? that is very very sensitive. if they were actually at residents, that would be a problem. every race is out front live in washington for us tonight. evan, how important is this letter to the archives released today? >> kate, this letter really explain to us how we got to this problem, where the fbi felt that they needed to go to

mar-a-lago to retrieve any additional boxes that contain information that could be sensitive. what it does is it really puts a timeline on these discussions going on behind the scenes. after the archives found that there were more than 100 documents, marked as classified. more than 700 pages in total. some of them at that highest, level which is special access programs. this is stuff that even if you had the top secret secret security clearance, you needed additional clearance to be able to access those types of documents. , again this is the kind of thing that should not be stored in a room like your beach house in palm beach. and despite all of, this the fbi cannot get access to this for more than four weeks. well the trump team was trying to claim that they had some kind of executive privilege. in the end they were giving that access, and you can see now where we are with the fbi having to go to mar-a-lago to retrieve additional boxes of classified information. >> and about, that what more

you learning about the judges response today to trump's lawsuit over the fbi search of his home, and what it means for him now? >> it is never a good thing when you file a lawsuit and a judge presumably, perhaps a more friendly judge, she was appointed by the former president, comes back to you and says, why are you coming here? what exactly are you looking for? that is exactly what she does. she is giving -- on friday for trump's team to come back and say, what exactly, what's really are they asking for. because, frankly the lawsuit that they filed is not entirely clear. and she is also saying, why didn't you go to the other judge who is already looking at whether to release the affidavits? she wants an explanation, and she also says, do you tell the justice department that you wanted the special master, this third party, to do or view of these documents. and why are you coming here now? >> very interesting. it's going to see, you evan. thanks a. much over me, now john dean, former nixon white house counsel. -- former fbi special agent, and ryan goodman, former special counsel to the department of

defense. now quite there and chief of the just security block. thank you guys for being here. ryan, let's start with the voters response today to the trump lawsuit evan was laying out. the question the judge, raises they seem pretty straightforward and should be answered. i, mean evan and i mentioned, the search was appointed to trump in 2020. what do you make of her response? >> i think political discarded very, well that the quest for clarification that she is asking dovetails with all of the criticisms that we heard in the last 24 hours from legal observers. just saying things like, what is this? it is really not with a legal complaint looks like. it is a lot of political arguments. but it is also unclear, why is this in her court, why did they filed with the judge who is entertaining the case and house all the information about it? is it a civil suit? when we are dealing with a criminal matter, what is the specific relief that we are asking for? she is pushing on all of these questions, and the specific release one in particular, like,

when you really want the special master today to identify which documents have or a subject to executive privilege? the special master identify that those would be the very documents which would be the national archives. so it really is kind of a very significant reduction in a certain sense, of what they did. but giving them a second opportunity. >> our good way of saying, hero. that leaders response, as ryan was laying, it seems like a slap on trump's legal counsel and with the puck to gather here and presented. that they would submit the filing of the lawsuit like this in the way that they did. what do you think of that? >> i think that is one of the angles of this that is quite extraordinary. it is really how poor his legal representation has to be, or is right now. we saw this already in the lead up to january 6th. he had his dream team of rudy giuliani and sidney powell and jenna ellis. but it almost feels like he is gone even lower than that with people who are not really

prepared to handle this. and i think the p here is this really looks like it is headed in the direction of a potential indictment. and trump really needs to have a strong legal representation from experience lawyers who know how to defend a criminal case. beyond they have to at least know how to file documents in court. and i think there needs to be a time when you represented the president would make your legal career. and the piers that nobody wants to represent him, partly because he is a bad client and he does not listen to advice. he does not pay his lawyers. and often the lawyers and up under investigation, in some form themselves. so, you know, i don't know what to say but it does not look good for trump at this point. >> i would say, asha, you said a lot. you saw the. what john, then there is this released letter that the archives and trump back in may about the more than 100 classified records and 700

pages of the retreat from his home earlier in the ear. the former at one of trump's chief of staff, the former acting chief of dr. mick mulvaney, he told me earlier today that the sheer volume does not concern him as much, because people listen to their walking or classify documents all of the time, i think it is good stuff today boxes there moving out of the white house. is that how you see it? >> i really don't see it that way. i think particularly special access program documents are generally numbered and monitored quickly. they are closely where they are and who has them. along we have had them, the president had them they would know where they are. that is why one of the reasons the fbi began looking at this they recognized documents were missing because they have a lot of these documents were not returned. so this letter is very telling and it is not just released by the national archives, it was released in response to john solomon,, who posted his form

on his website. and they wanted to put out the original so we can all see what wasn't it. it is a very damning letter for the trump people, and the detail it explains of how they didn't do anything for a year or more before the archives finally decided they had to act. it tells that they released it, solomon released it, to try to accuse the biden administration of politicizing this investigation. the letter shows exactly the opposite, it shows that the archives went by the book, they had to go to the justice department. this was so extreme. justice follow the presidential records act, went to the white house. the white house actually said, listen, we will defer to the archives on making these decisions. so this is not biden and they're trying to provoke this investigation. i think that it is an important letter, it is available online for people who are following this investigation. and i think they will learn a lot from it. >> ryan, from a legal

standpoint, bringing a little bit, trying to bring it all together, why does it contribute, i want burying you think the number, 700 pages of classified documents they have taken since january in the selection of boxes from mar-a-lago, would that have on the decision for the justice department bringing in charges? >> i do think it is a breathtaking number. 700 pages just in the first tranche, 100 documents. we know that there were -- three and documents based on the new york times reporting. that is a huge. number i think it influences the justice wrote in the number of ways. first, it is a strong indication that this is no mistake. just by the way couple of documents, that is a very large volume especially when we are talking about documents around -- some of them are color coded in the rest, you do not miss on your filings. and then the second, is i think it means that there are very significant stations for the national security. all of that should be difficult for the justice property turned away from, if they're thinking about whether not to bring an indictment. and i think the prosecutors

would say look, this is winnable. we can convince a jury with a number that is so breathtaking it will stick in the majority's mind. in terms of national security implications and the question of how willful it was on the part of the president to have these documents. >> i want to ask, you asha rangappa, about the screen implications. the national archives explained they got to this in this letter that the justice department, part of the reason here is that we just a storm in the way they put in the letter, wanted to conduct an assessment of potential damage resulting from the apparent manner in which these materials were stored and transported, antigone is sorry remedial steps. yet we know that trump, from what we know about these more recent fbi searches of mar-a-lago, still have more classified documents. what is your take from that? >> there are two takeaways. first, with the on secure possession of these documents, the government has to basically operate on the assumption that some unauthorized third-party

has seen them. and by the way, just in terms of his lawyers and -- i know there is parties have seen them, but let's say a foreign intelligence service has gotten access to them in some way. mar-a-lago is actually open to traffic. it would be a target for them. then they have to go back and look at protecting sources and methods. engaging their counter intelligence resources to see whether our other entities know things that they do not know, and taking measures to protect against that. but the other piece of this is that trump appears to be willfully evading the governments attempt to recover this. it is not that it took a, year and he, said okay okay here to get all back. i mean, the new york times reporting says that he actually went through the documents that he gave back, in those 15 boxes. which i would interpret, as he wanted to make sure that he was not coming back something he really wanted to keep. and, then even after the subpoena was served and they came in your fears those documents, he could continue to

hold on to staff. so i think we need to ask, why is he holding on to? what was he holding on to? and why? what was the importance of this to him? what kind of compromise has that made for national security? >> this does kind of circle back to a basic question from the very beginning of this, that has not yet been answered. which auto just got, to. john which, is why did donald trump to have these, when he had the one they want to keep them. that is still not known. >> absolutely, and we have a trump westerner in maggie haberman, who has done her best to try to explain her understanding, from what she has been able to pick up, but he just wants these documents. he likes to show off stuff and show people documents. these are not the sorts of things that you want to have around for that purpose. and i think that is where the government is worried about. who does he show it, to where are they, have pictures been made of them. and things of that nature. he just wants to be a big deal

and the center of attention. this is the wrong kind of material he uses for that purpose. >> knowing other two big headlines coming up today this week. thursday and friday. for more explanations in court over this going to happen in both of these fronts, now. thank you all, really appreciated. upfront for us next, u.s. pointing all americans in ukraine to get out. now saying that the highly volatile situation could be about to get worse. actually. we are live on the ground. and in washington. plus, thousands of migrants bus to new york city from texas, and getting a warm welcome from officials. but how do the residents feel about it? >> i think that the mayors are, initiative though, has been a little bit ignorant of what has been going on in the city. >> and, it is election night in america. votes or need to come in in the primary, and the big question tonight, who is going to take on ron desantis come november? ♪ from boston. ♪ it means, “ok-to-beer-fest”. another sam octoberfest?

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graham winnings from the u.s. tonight. state department urging americans in ukraine to leave immediately, saying that it has information russia is preparing to launch launch new attacks in the coming days. u.s. warning of a volatile, highly volatile situation that could be getting worse. this coming after the daughter of a prominent russian nationalists was killed in a car bombing near moscow. we are covering this for multiple angles for you tonight. natasha bertrand is out front, and sam kiley is on the ground in kyiv. natasha, when hearing from the sources about how specific and

imminently threats are? >> yes, kate. u.s. government officials are telling us that americans need to leave ukraine immediately. that russia could ramp up his attacks imminently on a civilian infrastructure, and government facilities. the state department did issue an alert on this, urging americans again to leave the country. they did not say where these attacks could take place, or even when. but the sources that we've been speaking to have expressed a lot of concern that these attacks could began as soon as tomorrow. now, why is tomorrow significant? well it is ukraine's independence day. it marks the 31st anniversary of ukraine's independence from the soviet union. and importantly, it is the six month anniversary of russia's invasion of ukraine. so it is a hugely important day, and of course given the way that russia has placed historically on a symbolic dates and key anniversaries, the u.s. and ukraine are watching very closely to see if russia does launch any attacks. there are fears that russia could in fact launch attacks on this infrastructure in kyiv itself. which the city center of course

has largely been scared over the course of the war. so this could be a major escalation. and of course, this all comes amid extremely heightened tensions between ukraine and russia. given the, death as you, mentioned of darria -- who is the daughter of that prominent putin ally. russia has blame ukraine for her death. of course, ukraine denies that categorically. but there are concerns that russia could ramp up its attacks, escalate in retaliation for that death. now of, course the americans have been urging u.s. citizens to get out of the country for months now. and this is just another indication, however, they believe russia could be escalating even further. kate. >> and sam, natasha and sitting on something important which is that this comes at a great very critical moment. tomorrow marks ukraine's independence day, and also six month since russia's invasion. what is a feeling on the ground? >> well, i have to say that here in kyiv it is a little bit quieter, because the president as walensky came out today and

implored his citizens around the country to listen and respect the instructions being given from home defense agencies to react to sirens, if sirens go off. to actually use the aerate shelters. it's people got early used to them. and we often ignore them in some cities, even in places like kharkiv and kramatorsk, which are getting hit on a regular basis. that could even get used to. thanks so that is the one level. the other level, i think, it is that it is very difficult indeed for ukrainians to see how the russians could ramp up. i don't think the ukrainians set much store by these dates. nor do they necessarily believe that the russians have held back any capability, if they were going to go after the infrastructure. they would've smashed up already. it is not as if they have been shy in the use of their high explosives against civilian areas. at the same time, they are also anticipating something of a new phase in the war.

certainly that is where the governments stand in. i spoke early on to the defense minister. he was hinting broadly at things to come. >> i think that we on the new stage. because we have to go forward. to start a counteroffensive campaign in a different direction. >> now, that different direction, i think, will partly be driven by foreign military aides. the united states announcing another 3 million, on top of the 700 plus billion that they announced just a few days ago. those earlier announcements were weapons supply, mostly, of additional drones and so on. this is much more focused on long term training programs. i think we are going to see a lot marketed chanel warfare coming from the ukrainians. >> sam, natasha, thank you so much. up for us next, growing migrants being bastian york is

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become well over 6000 asylum seeking migrants arriving here in new york city. when you, them especially in the last couple of weeks, have arrived here at the port authority in manhattan. so many of them coming from south america. a lot of these, families audit is individuals, kate, i hillary they've traveled all the way from columbia. many from venezuela. in new york. basically marking the end of the month long journey. so many of them a little to no social, ties and therein lies the biggest challenge to city officials. to find ways of housing so many of these individuals who have the shelter system for so many stretching to capacity. an example, here the vacancy rate basically used to measure -- available has remained near 1% for several weeks. it is aiming for five. percent that gives you a sense. that is one of the concerns that weighs heavily on the minds of many regular new yorkers, they are closely watching the situation grow worse by the day. >> i think that the american

initiative, though, has been a little bit ignorant of what has been going on in the city and that people need to be solving a lot of -- we have a homelessness issue here. we have a drug issue here, that needs to be solved. because in the past couple of years they've not seen it get better. it has gotten way worse. and covid did not help. and if we do not solve those problems, first i do not think we are going to be able to let people in the way we need to. we have the resources -- for has all been reallocated -- it is about becoming a priority. that is what we should do. >> we should be, clear though. overall when you speak to members on the street, they are hopeful that the city will be able to keep up with that tradition, with that, image of new york city acting as a. beacon it has been a big for emigrants around the world. but it is certainly a delicate balance, with cities having to address pre-existing issues here in new york. at the same, time trying to get a grasp on this.

and as for the governor in texas, we're showing avoidance that he plans to stop offering these migrants free rise to the northeast. >> polo, thank you so. much out front with us right, now and had from president marc levine. thank you so much for being. here really appreciated. this poll is really laying out how new york city has always been a welcoming place for immigrants. how much is this current situation putting that to the cast? >> the interview, new yorkers i think speak for all of us, who are incredibly proud of the tradition of hundreds of years of welcoming people from around the world. it is why the statue of liberty is here. this is a major operation that we need a job ensure that people have a bed to sleep in, food and medical care. but we are ramping up. we are going to need some federal resources, ultimately. but new york city has done this before, and we are doing it again. >> this situation has not really happen before into the air that we are seeing, coming from the texas governor. when a from the federal government.

have a conversations with them? >> first let me say that while we welcome these arrivals with opening open arms, this does not detract from one governor abbott is doing, it is incredibly cynical and showing no heart from people fleeing life-threatening circumstances. and you are following the legal process here as asylum seekers. but yes, the cities in conversations with the federal government about fema assistance, female existing texas. when it was housing these migrants there. this will occur national, plan ultimately. they are collaborative with states and cities around the country. >> immigration reform is needed across the. bore the asylum process is a labor sum process, and the system is largely broken. but most immediately, for new york and when you are focused on each day, the city's shelter system is already stressed and maxed out. we know this. polo is getting into some of. it there are more than 50,000 people in city shelters each night. as of june this year. the legal aid society says in

just a few days, just a few days ago, the vacancy rate is below 1%, which is below at the city is comfortable with. they were just 19 rooms available. that is not sustainable. how can the system take in more? truly, i understand welcome with open arms. but practically, are you at a breaking point? >> the shelter system is this fall -- with the city does have contracts with hotels. right, now there are a number of empty hotels. because -- and lots of come, back is not it was pre-pandemic levels. they are quickly moving to expand capacity and ultimately several thousand rooms. we can do this quickly. we've done it before. we are going to need some federal reimbursement. that is where fema comes in. >> i think the estimate that i saw that the city is expecting an influx of more than 1000 migrant children to be than entering your city public schools. the school system, public school system, is already seeing class sizes that are up to 30% larger than compared to

other places. what does this mean for schools? >> we are estimating the thousand children are going to need spots in our public schools. every one of them will be out for that spot. and that is going to require our mobilization to ensure the lead bilingual staff. more social workers, and guidance counselors. but we can do this. actually, the enrollment in new york city public schools is already down in the last couple of years. so there is capacity in the buildings. it is going to be tough for these kids, but imagine what a child is experiencing no having fled their country income. here we can do the best we can for them. >> a news of the governor abbott is doing is a cynical, but as a politician is trying to ways awareness of the border is not just his, problem is the country's problem. as a texas governor, is he succeeding in his goal? >> i do not know his political goals are, but he is believing in the heart listen xenophobic fashion. showing no compassion for human being who are following a legal process. they are here is asylum seekers. many are fleeing oppression in their home countries. venezuela, columbia, cuba,

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>> exactly. if you are talking to democrats in florida, it is not necessarily about the specifics of either candidate. charlie crist nikki freed. the agriculture, committee known for democratic member of the house. it is who can beat rhonda scientists. the behemoth in florida politics. 130 billion dollars in the, bank potential 2024 candidate. democrats right now gleaning very very heavily towards charlie chris. more than 299,000 votes ahead, 78%. chris has the backing of those for the democratic establishments. he is a backing up a lot of national buckets as well. nikki, fareed though, the only statewide democrat in florida, talk to some degree that perhaps the campaign is picking up momentum. particularly in the wake of the supreme court decision in roe v. wade. right now it looks like that is very much not the. case of three to thousand votes are now for charlie chris, ahead of nikki freed, he looks on his way to locking up that nomination. earlier this afternoon. governor ron desantis said they expected to face chris. it will be massive fight, one

republicans feel like they have an advance to wear this -- as quickly sort of the course of the loss of all years. we, primary 77, for still a lot coming your. now we're, now actually chris is in position. >> and let me ask you then about new york, phil. as you said, this is a nasty race between two democratic women in congress for decades. when he wasn't for there tonight? >> besides the fact that this has gotten about is nastiest can possibly get, when it comes to 2:30 year incumbents. two critical, critical chairs in the house democratic congress. during a lure and carrie maloney. the biggest thing to watch right now is, keep in mind when you have caroling injury nadler the balance of manhattan serving israel for more than 30, years they were not spawning gust one another. this is obviously completely crossed out when the court threw out the redistricting mask, putting these two incumbents. together now they're represents the upper west side, carol maloney the upper east side. the big question, now that even the maloney's former district really incorporates more of

this new district, is whether it nadler's base, whether nadler's high propensity voters in the upper west side. plus the potential of this third candidate, nearly 40 year old trash patel, he is been a key player in a lot of the debates. he also took on maloney twice in the, primaries prior to this. won the last, one only list by couple thousand votes. if he starts to siphon votes away from maloney, now adler has the backing of the majority leader chuck schumer, it goes with the new york times could be in the very good position. you know this is been an extraordinarily ugly race for too longtime colleagues. a lot of accusations, allegations being thrown about or at least hinted at. that will come to an end at some point, keeping in mind the new yorkers a little bit slow when it comes to the counting of votes right now. but this is definitely the nastiest primary we have seen over the course of the last several months. kate. >> big in the, head feel is a force. thank you so much. i want to bring in our david chalian, political. director casey, hunt anchor in chief of national affairs analyst. in italy, henderson senior political analyst. let's start with this race in

new york between another and maloney, and tenacity it really has gotten. i don't need to describe, i think we just played in their own voice. >> caroline voted for the war in iraq. which killed hundreds of thousands of people. she was gullible enough to believe that the misrepresentations of the bush administration. >> i think that we should read the editorial in your quest today. the calm senile. they saw his performance of the debate where he cannot even remember who he impeached. >> cnn's as october is reporting that maloney has been telling people that now glorious, quote unquote, half dead. why does it get this rough? >> to which i think now they're in an interview with either, said i'm not. happy >> things that can be said in the campaign trail. >> it has gotten this russ because these are entrenched incumbents who never envisioned that their career would come to this and. it is because of the quirks of redistricting.

incumbency is a really potent thing in american politics. the great majority of members of congress get reelected. and because of this descending a quirk of redistricting, these two folks were drawn into one district. that creates a political death, match if you will. so one of them is going to end up going home, out of a job. and that is why it has gotten so nasty, especially in the home stretch. >> phil brought up the third candidate, sherrod patel. he seems to be welcoming, making this generational distinction between the two. we can show this because he even tries to show that on his website. in a very fresh face depiction of himself, and i very not so much depiction of the other, two in the pitchers he is put on his website. is this, primary in some, way putting the nasty aside, it seems something of an encapsulation of the problems of the democratic party has in this country? >> i think that is, right in it was a preview of what we are going to see played in the democratic party in congress going forward. if they lose the house.

this generational. fight for you already see. and for the patel already waged against maloney, and almost one. he is saying to these folks, you have been there all these years, 30 years. maloney, you say you want to give the er a gratified. well, you've been there for 30, years it has not happened yet. so let's have some fresh, blood let's have some diverse people in congress as well too. he is the son of indian immigrants, he's 38 years old or so. he is labeling himself as an obama democrat. and listen there have been in the last few years the rise of the obama democrats, we are going to be and when they're going to take over. and i think this is when he is sort of foreshadowing in arguing for. he, likely if he doesn't win at this, point he might win in the future in new york politics. because i think there is a desire for some fresh faces. right? he is half the age, essentially, of maloney. and the other candidates. adler. and so we will see what happens. >>, casey talked about florida. if it was talking between nicki

frieden charlie chris, charlie crist seems to be doing pretty well so far. let's see what happens this evening. but regardless, whoever, winds they are going to be up against a really formidable candidate in ron desantis. how would you describe the uphill battle that whoever wins -- how you describe it? >> i think the one number that phil hits on, most critical, one is the 100 million dollar war chest that rhonda scientists have to end theory just run for governor in florida. i don't think anyone thinks -- >> whether you hinting at? >> i do think we have got some twists and turns before november. but it is an extraordinarily uphill battle for, it seems like charlie chris, the likely winner here. but any democrat who would run against desantis, they are pretty popular in their home state. he got a lot of, points especially with swing voters. the way he handled, covid particularly in school, for young children along those lines. i would say that abortion is also interesting. in florida they've handled it in a way that is more middle of the road.

really than the other red states across america. obviously it is still an issue in a swing state like this, but they've not gone through these extremes of eliminating all exceptions. talking about 15 weeks, not six weeks. i defer conversations going on in florida. i think you already seeing this, i don't think we plainly top gun ads that he was airing in ohio, which is pretty far from his home. states >> he's also campaigning in many other states. >> yes. he was on the campaign trail in arizona, and ohio, and pennsylvania. and that is a pretty normal business, right, when you're trying to collect checks from folks you go out there and you campaign for them and you some of your popularity to do so. he is not shying away from that at all. although he is not hitting the traditional early states of new hampshire and iowa just yet. >> can you just weigh in really quickly on pennsylvania. the senate race that has just spoken about getting ugly from voters? but whatever those are you getting out of this? you've never mehmet oz, republican candidate heading back on john fetterman the or

democrat candidate. because fetterman was mocking oz because he was talking about crudités and trying to talk about the problem of inflation. but now, oz's campaign, the response to fetterman is that if anyone had ever eaten a vegetable in his life, maybe he would not have a major stroke and would not in the position of having to lie about -- >>, ouch ouch ouch. >> yes, but, this is the kind of thing that is exactly an example of why isis campaign is doing so poorly. >> i think it is exactly, right. yeah >> we never really struggle with the giants and are, overweight they are normal voters. -- >> i don't think it's anything. he is getting burned over and over because it is this crudités thing. you have veteran who is really doing it on twitter. this was just nasty and ugly. particularly from a doctor, right? that is what makes it so bad and just nasty and mean. >> critics and say. now look at night. welcome to american politics. up next, china responding with military drills after 30 or traveling to taiwan. are these meetings doing more

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tonight, china is protesting a visit by indiana governor eric holcomb to taiwan saying that it, quote, firmly opposes official u.s. exchanges with the taiwan region in any form and under any name. it's the third high-profile visit from a u.s. delegation to taiwan in a matter of weeks. speaker pelosi's visit earlier this month prompted a massive show of military force from china, and then just last week, democratic senator ed markey led another delegation to the region. outfront with me now is senator ed markey, joining us for his first interview since returning from his trip to taiwan. three delegations from the united states in just a matter of weeks, clearly prompting outrage and military drills from china in response. are you concerned as more delegations pile on in their visits that they'll do more harm than good? >> well, i voted for the taiwan

relations act in 1979 as a young member of the united states congress, and countless delegations from the united states have gone to taiwan since then. and that agreement -- the taiwan relations act has been the basis for the peace. it's been the basis for the status quo, for the strategic ambiguity that our policies have been advancing. the one china policy. it's not delegations going to taiwan that have created this tension. it's the chinese government itself. it's the people's liberation army in china who have decided to escalate, who have decided to engage in performative military activities to demonstrate their unhappiness. but we just cannot allow for china to say that no americans

will ever again visit taiwan. that is just absolutely unacceptable because part of my delegation's goal was to work towards finding a peaceful resolution between taiwan and china, and china has overreacted. >> i was going to say because china did not see it that way in responding to your visit because the china embassy put out a statement saying, quote, it proves the u.s. does not want to see stability across the taiwan straits and has spared no effort to stir up confrontation. also, this is what former director of national intelligence james clapper had to say about the chinese president after speaker pelosi returned from her trip. let me play this for you. >> he has to show a position of strength. so could it lead to war? well, sure. it's a higher probability now than it was a week ago.

>> did you consider that as part of your calculation when you went over? >> well, i actually believe that american engagement with taiwan and with china is going to reduce the likelihood that we have any military conflict. that has to be our goal ul ultimately, and that's why we have to strengthen our economic ties to taiwan, ensure that they get the defensive capabilities which they need to broaden out any diplomatic or economic ties which taiwan wants with other countries in the world. we just have to demonstrate that we are going to stand fast with this now 43-year-old party of strategic ambiguity over the one china policy. and if there's any resolution of this issue, it has to be diplomatic. it has to be peaceful, that we

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a new effort under way tonight to free american marc fogel, who is being detained in russia. a bipartisan group of senators is now pushing the state department to reclassify the teacher as wrongfully detained. that classification allows the

state department to actually negotiate for his release like it's been doing for americans brittney griner and paul whelan. fogel was sentenced to 14 years at a maximum security prison for possessing less than an ounce of medical marijuana. recently fogel's sister spoke to outfront and says she believes the u.s. has something up its sleeve to get her brother out. thank you so much for joining us tonight. ac 360 starts now. good evening. the u.s. embassy in ukraine is warning americans to leave the country with fears growing of escalating russian attacks in the wake of a car bombing outside moscow that took the life of the daughter of a prominent putin supporter. major developments in the mar-a-lago documents story. first, though, we begin with breaking news out of florida where primary day is over and the polls have just closed. cnn can now project two key races for the democratic nomination for governor. cnn projects the