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do you know, it's hard to believe, it really hard to believe sitting here actually when the war started, when the bombs started. it was six months. it has been six months since vladimir putin launched his murderous and entirely unprovoked war on ukraine, six months of death raining down from the sky, six months of innocent men, women, children slaughtered. six months of people driven away from homes, schools, churches, hospitals and shelters bombed. we remember it. it's still going on. it's unimaginable and going on today. missile strikes across the country. but this is how it began. watch this. here is our breaking news, vladimir putin announcing a special military operation claiming to protect donbas. matthew chance will join us. >> i just heard a big bang right here behind me. i told you we shouldn't have

done the live shot here. >> wow. six months. right when it started on this program. just couple minutes from now. cnn reporters risking their lives in the war zone bearing witness to what putin's war has done and still doing and to the bravery of the people of ukraine. >> you can see many of these people are elderly. [ speaking non-english ] >> people are so exhausted they can barely walk. >> just down the road i meet nina who seems like a sweet 71-year-old grandmother. by the way, she says if she saw vladimir putin, she would strangle him with her own hands

right now. >> [ speaking non-english ] >> i'm ready she says. if by god the russians come here i'll shoot them all and my hands won't even shake. i'll throw grenades at them. an air strike hit a bomb shelter hiding hundreds beneath a theater. this satellite image from two days earlier showing the building standing with children written large outside. >> now we're trying to get out of this area as quickly as possible. our other car completely destroyed. >> clothes, belongings and restraints all indicate these people were a threat to no one in the moments before they were killed. >> i'll never forget what i saw myself. the people who lost everything and the brutal assaults in the cities under siege. >> shes at her mother's house outside of kharkiv when russian bombardment grew closer. >> everything was doing this here. >> shaking.

>> yeah, shaking. we were laying on the ground and like praying we would be safe and alive. >> after taking cover with her mother and neighbors, they emerged to destruction. >> everything is bombed. a lot of glasses were broken. garage was entirely blown off. >> this is really, really close to downtown lviv. it's the exact opposite of what russian officials said yesterday they would limit what they were doing in this country. this is ukraine independence day and on this ukraine independence day the country is under assault every single day. president vladimir sa lezelensk at least 22 more people are dead after another attack on a train station including an 11-year-old child. we'll dig into the big questions who is winning this war? what does it mean for the united

states and quite frankly, the world? and where is it going next? let's get straight to cnn senior international correspondent sam kiley live in kyiv and general wesley clark the former supreme allied commander of nato and analyst colonel cedric lay ton. good evening. thank you for joining me. we'll start with you. you are back in ukraine. the country just marked their independence day today. the war bloody and brutal and just today at least 22 people killed in the attack on a train station. where are we six months in, sam? >> well, from the perspective of the ukrainian defense minister whom i spoke to in the last 36 hours, he said the worst is behind them. it's difficult to imagine that a few hours later we hear and see the results of yet another attack on the civilian train as you say, 22 people dead.

but he's saying that because kyiv was nearly captured and the ukrainian armed forces managed to drive the russians away from kyiv. they drove them away from kharkiv and holding the line in the east and south of the country. they did lose mariupol but since then, the ukrainians haven't regained the initiative but holding the line as the united states and other partners, other allies are rushing weapons to the ukrainians. not enough they say and not at sophisticated enough, not powerful enough to make the difference but they are confident they say that they will eventually get the weapons that they need to actually win this battle. so what they're really trying to avoid, don, is a stalemate. don? >> it's interesting to see you there. it's almost in the exact same position that matthew chance is in the night this started six months ago. sam, stand by. let me bring in colonel cedric

lay t-- cedric. at the start it seemed imminent that kyiv might fall. that did not happen. is it clear who is winning and who is losing at this point? >> well, don, it's not exactly clear but there are several reasons for that. as sam mentioned, when you look at the beginning of this war on 27th of february, so we're talking three days after the initial invasion, the russians are at kyiv at the capital almost there ready to surround kharkiv and seemed obvious that they were going to take both of those cities. they were also going to move into the south. this area right here, those new russian territory they were taking. move to the 13th of march. this is a blowup of the area around kyiv. the russians captured that. it looked like they were going to do a classic move around this way and around this way to

capture kyiv. they had the northeastern suburbs, the northwestern suburbs. all they needed to do in theory is go around this way and this way to capture the south. they didn't do that. they had a huge convey that came through this area right here. that convey was destroyed by the ukrainians. they were able to in essence take things in a completely different direction and the big surprise was that all the stuff that had been read now north of kyiv is all yellow. that meant ukrainians had captured it by the 30th of april and they also had made moves around kharkiv which allowed for that city to have at least a little breathing space so when it comes to these kinds of things, they did an amazing job and then you get to the 24th of august today, the 31st independence day of ukraine and you look here. there is basically ukrainian control here. we've got ukrainian control around kharkiv and pockets of ukrainian control that is moving

forward through the south and potential southern invasion perhaps and they've kept odessa, which is also incredibly important. that's ukraine's major port. the fact they have done this is a significant achievement considering what they have and what they don't have and it really shows that the ukrainians have brought themselves together in a very meaningful way, don. >> yeah. general clark, remember when we talked about this would the american people, the american president, would we keep the interest and keep giving supplies and much needed resources to the ukrainian people, to the ukrainian president, president biden announcing a nearly $3 billion security assistance package today, everything from additional surface to air missiles, ammunition to funding for training. is ukraine getting what it needs especially to keep, to hold what they're cdoing right now and to win? >> well, they're getting what they need right now to hold.

they don't have and they're not getting what they need to really clear the russians out and set the conditions for successful diplomatic end to the war. the ukrainian objective is to get the russians out of donbas and crimea and secure chkherson. they need armored fighting vehicles and artillery and greater air power. they don't have enough. it's just not there yet. they've got tanks. they don't have the fighting vehicles. they don't have enough artillery that's mobile and don, what we're not covering is they're holding the line in donbas at a tremendous cost. they have their territorial defense brigades in there, 13 of them and they're taking casualties, 100 casualties a day every day. they don't have the counter battery capability in donbas because they don't have the ammunition for the 1-5-2

artillery. they have done a remarkable job. they need everything we've given them. we need to give them more but we may not have it, either. we're going to have to really retool the u.s. industrial base. this is a long-term problem. unless something happens catastrophically to the ukrainians, they're going to see this fight continue into next year. they're going to continue pushing into next year and the russians will be rebuild and back. >> goodness. goodness. this has worldwide ramifications, sam. you know, they grow crops there. that's all in jeopardy right now, has been in jeopardy and into the future, as well. what is the impact of this war been on the global economy? it's had a huge affect on energy and food supplies. >> well, it's had a massive effect particularly in europe, inside the european union and the united kingdom, other

countries in the west of europe all dependent or nearly dependent on oil and gas from russia. so prices have been storming up ever since the invasion. in fact, before the invasion, i mean, inflation rate in therece reported to be around 18%, 18% inflation in the united kingdom. similar figures elsewhere in europe and the same thing happened be food stuff that had a very severe effect. i was in northern kenya a few weeks ago, don, where the evidence there, you wouldn't imagine that northern kenya would be affected by war in europe but sure enough, food prices there have tripled or quadrupled basic food stuff produced in ukraine and russia but in ukraine in huge quantities when that food supply is disrupted, people start dying

and start suffering as far as the world food program predicting a warning that 22 million people could be in danger there. most of that is -- well, there are two reasons, drought and the combination of drought with massive increases in food prices. right across the globe. the united states been very, very severely affected by this, too. so this is a war it may be contained on ukrainian territory but it affecting everybody, don. >> general clark, according to the u.n., the united nations, as of august 22nd, there have been more than 5500 civilians confirmed killed, nearly 7900 confirmed injured and it is believed that those figures are even higher. according to the pentagon, russia has had between 70,000 to 80,000 casualties in this conflict. that human toll on this war is just horrible. >> it is horrible. don, it's even worse if you look

at the filtration camps the russians set up. we believe there is something like 260,000 to 300,000 children who have been taken from their parents, their ukrainian parents and given to other people all across russia as part of destroying the ukrainian civilization. so this is like complete effort to destroy a culture and a people. the civilian casualties are probably low. we really haven't gotten into mariupol and don't know what is happening in the filtration camps. we know people have been detained if they have tattoos or if they were connected with the ukraineian defense forces. soviet practice before this was to shoot them. we don't know what happened to those people, whether they have been eliminated. we may find out the tool is much, much, much greater. but here is the point. this is genocide on a scale that we haven't seen since world war ii in europe. we cannot forget that.

>> yeah. a very important point. colonel, you know, ukraine says that russia's military has killed three and detained 26 nuclear power plants, power plant workers. zelenskyy says russia put the world on the brink of radiation catastrophe. what is the latest there? >> so, don, the latest is when you look at the map right here, this area here six nuclear reactors and another nuclear power plant with three nuclear reactors this one in the northwest and of course, the famous infamous power plant offline. that is not affected in terms of the power generation capacity but what is happening here especially here is really important because the russians

control this one and what they're doing, don, is they are making it impossible for the ukrainians to move into this area because they are in essence holding the plant hostage as you mentioned they're killing or wounding people that are associated with this power plant. they're capturing others. it is in essence an area where there is a great fear that they're going to damage the nuclear power plant and as a result, radiation would then leak out into the surrounding area and depending on the prevailing winds, that radiation could not only affect ukraine but could also go into russia and into belarus and other parts of europe. that's the kind of thing we're dealing with and why the u.n. is very much against what the russians are doing right here in terms of at least the u.n. leadership and also the western powers including the united states have asked the russians to vacate. >> all right. colonel, general, sam, thank you very much. appreciate it. so is overturning roe coming

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so if you're thinking about what happens, you know, in the mird midterms, what happens maybe come 2024, this story, watch. it may be an indicator. big victory in one new york swing district. pat ryan defeating mark in the congressional district seat. ryan casting his campaign as a referendum on roe focussing on the supreme court decision to overturn roe v. wade. his campaign team releasing this ad hours after the court's decision. here it is. >> pat ryan graduated from west point and risked his life in combat. he fought for our families and free come. >> freedom include as woman's right to choose. how can we be a free country if

the government tries to control women's bodies? that's not the country i fought to defend. >> well, he's here. democratic congressman elect pat ryan joins me. thank you very much. how are you doing? how do you feel? >> exhausted and exhilarated and really, really proud. really proud of the community. >> yeah. congratulations. do you think that your campaign's focus on abortion rights played into last night's victory? >> we centered this campaign on choice and freedom and standing up at a moment in our democracy and we saw the results and it's just like what we saw or very similar to what we saw in kansas when these sort of guard rails of democracy are hit and fundamental rights are ripped away from people. folks stand up and fight and they rally to this cause and that is powerful. >> if you listen to the critics, they'll say this doesn't affect that many people. it's not a priority for people. but you say that on the campaign trail, you saw people crying the

night that -- or crying when the dobbs documents leakedm. what were you hearing from people on the campaign trail? >> dozens of personal moments of when people heard that i was running, one story really sticks out walking into a small business, gentleman hears i'm running for congress. immediately starts crying and telling me that he and his husband, his husband is black, he's white growing up in a very rural conservative area, their whole lives have struggled and lived in fear and that now they felt this deep sense of dread and fear and to see him, he owned this story. he's crying in front of his customers. that is just -- it just touched this nerve and americans get this. they get that even if they may not be immediately directly affected when other americans are affected in such a profound way goes against who we are as a

country. >> do you think it fear or it's a desire if moderation or combination for -- because there -- the extremes have taken over right in this country right now. do you think it sort of moderate or do you think it fear or both? >> i actually think it's fight. i think people feel like threats to our democracy, fund mental rights and freedoms have been ripped away more might come, lgbtq rights. you have hundreds of republicans voting against access to contraceptives in this country. that is dark scary stuff. but in response to that, we're actually seeing i think hope and fight not in a decisive way but a unifying way. we talked so much, i talked so much about freedom which is this unifying value and a positive empowering value and people have really come together around that. >> you know in blue states like

new york, abortion rights aren't at risk but they are in other places. what will happen do you think if republicans take congress? >> they've been clear. they want a national abortion ban. so i think they quite likely are at risk across the country and i think people have sensed that not just in kansas but here in new york. that just -- it is a -- those were seismic, two seismic supreme court decisions putting more deadly weapons on the streets, the same weapons i carried in combat that might show up at my 3-year-old's nursery school and a day later rippiping away these freedoms a rights? those in combination with january 6th and so many other accumulating things have really been a wakeup call. >> do you think i've been covering my focus has been democracy, i said democracy is on the ballot for the midterms and coming in 2024. do you think people will vote like the democracy depends on

it? >> we did last night. i mean, we really did. >> do you think you won over independent and republican voters? >> i think so. the number of conversations that said i may not agree with everything but this is a deeper foundational thing that'ses happening. the ground is absolutely shifting and i felt that especially in the last few weeks of the campaign and then by the way, you add on the fokt we were not only standing up for rights and freedoms but delivering relief for people feeling great economic pressure. >> do you think republicans are nervous about what happened? >> i think they're absolutely panicked. we saw this towards the end of our campaign, the national republican party spent $2.5 million in dark money super paced as -- ads. didn't work. so they have no actual

substantive proposals. go back to division and deception and thankfully, people saw through that. >> what a time to become an elected politician. >> we have a lot of work to do. >> you have a lot of nerve, man. thank you very much. appreciate you joining us. >> thank you. we're learning more tonight about those documents the former president took with him to mar-a-lago. the national archives asked for two dozen boxes in just about 100 days after he left office. part of the extensive efforts to get documents returned over the last year and a half. what more are investigatiors learning? we'll talk about it. >> obviously, nobody is above the law in this country including ex presidents. why not both? visibly diminish wrinkled skin in just two o days. new crepe corrector lotion only from gold bond. champion your skin. can you believe someone thought this would help you hear better? and no one will notice it? genius. now this is eargo. made to be heard. not seen.

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so this next story that we're going to do, stories like this usually get shorted when there is sort of a correction or an explanation of exactly what happened in the past event that people have put so much weight on, right? like the whole thing about hillary's emails that ends up on page 400 of the newspaper instead of the front page, things like that. pay attention to this because this one should not get shaort tripped. it's very important. we're learning about efforts to retrieve documents from the former president. okay? "the washington post" is reporting the archives sent an email to trump's team only a few months after he left office asking for two dozen boxes that hadn't been returned. even though the archives says that the former white house counsel pat cipollone determined they should not have given it back to submit redactions for

the mar-a-lago before the federal release. joining me, george conway and john dean the form er nixon whie house counsel. we'll talk about that and we're also going to talk about things that had to do with other reports. okay? george, this email was sent roughly 100 days after trump left office and it illustrates how long the archives were trying to get these documents before the fbi search. there is a list up on the screen now. >> yeah, it's completely incredible how much he basically stiff armed trump stiff armed these documents. so far, he has not articulated and none of his lawyers or representatives articulated a cohaerent defense to the charge he stole these documents and

this just -- this just enhances that because it just shows that from the very beginning, his own people, pat cipollone told him or believed these documents had to go back. no question they had to go back and yet, he took more requests, more meetings, a search subpoena and a search warrant that is just incredible. >> george, for all the people who are saying well, he complied, he was trying to work with the archives and department of justice. to that you say what? >> look, if any of us had taken documents from the white house of this nature, i mean, this was property of the united states. he took it with him. it didn't belong to him and we would have all been indicted long ago. they gave him basically multiple chances to return these materials and he basically stiffed them and that's part of the reason why i think it's going to be very hard for the justice department not to

prosecute this. >> i want you to weigh in, john. according to this letter, the former white house counsel pat s cipollone signed off saying these boxes needed to be returned. what could he have told investigators? >> what could have trump told investigators is that he should get -- i don't think he spoke to them and i don't think there is a good explanation. that's why one of the reasons we've not heard anything from the trump camp that explains why they wanted them. we've heard rumors that he says i want my documents back. i want them all back. that he has this sort of possess sieve feeling towards them they're his. not with standing the law and he was certainly briefed on the lawyerly and we know that from cipollone and know that from his deputy counsel. so there is no good explanation and when you escalate presidential records to the

level of classified and the most classified of documents, then you're playing with fire and it just makes no sense he thought he could just stiff them and not get himself in a hwhole heap of trouble. somebody had to tell him this is espionage and obstruction of justice and he doesn't want to hear it. he seems to think he's teflon but i think this one will stick. >> interesting. george conway, we're learning in the reporting some of the unreturned documents like letters between trump and kim jong-un were requested just before the end of the trump term. does that speak to intent? >> absolutely. i mean, he knew that these documents had to go back and he -- yet, he insisterd on takig them and there is reporting that says he was the one that called through them the first time before they gave -- before he gave 15 boxes back.

his fingerprints literally and figuratively are on this episode and he is standing and out there all alone by himself because all of the people around him who were responsible and sensible like cipollone, they were ready to do the right thing and knew he couldn't keep these documents. and it's again sort of like -- it's sort of like the extension of the january 6th investigation where the people giving the evidence that puts him in severe legal jeopardy are his own. >> yeah. john, this is a story that i was talking about in the intro that should not get shorted. it's extremely important because i want to ask you about this is a memo the doj released today that details why trump wasn't charged with obstructing the russia probe and you have looked at it closely so tell us, did barr let trump off the hook here? >> i don't think there is any question that's what happened.

in fact, i enjoyed george's analysis on twitter earlier that he's looked at it as well and reached the same conclusion they have twisted the law, this is a bunch of prosecutors doing everything they cannot to prosecute and to do that, they have to read the law in a way that is not normally read. so they have given trump every break. the underlying basis of their conclusion is that there was no underlying crime committed between trump and the russians therefore he couldn't really obstruct justice since there was no underlying crime. but, you know, that's a very weak -- >> that would have been good news for richard nixon. >> george said that would be good news for richard nixon. >> absolutely. >> listen. i really want you to weigh in. i want to -- it's really important and i want to make this clear. two federal courts involve d

concluded barr didn't actually rely on it for legal advice, never seriously considered charging trump, made up his mind before he commissioned the memo and that he siengned the momente after notifying congress of his decision to not prosecute trump. does that mean trump should have potentially been prosecuted? >> well, i mean, i've always believed after having read the mueller report trump should have been prosecuted and the reason trump wasn't prosecuted or the reason mueller didn't recommend trump be prosecuted was because of the doj's long standing policy that sitting presidents can't be charged with crimes. that you have to wait until their term is over until you charge them. and that clearly is where mueller was coming from because the evidence laid out in volume two showed at least four or five instances of pretty clear obstruction and that evidence is basically whitewashed in this memo. i mean, in a way, this memo is

more damming than volume two of the mueller report because it's so weak. >> thank you, gentlemen. we'll continue to report this. i really appreciate it. >> an hour and a half of deliberating late tonight leading to the uvalde school board firing chief arredondo. live there next. now we've created a brand new way for you to sell your car whether it's a year old, or a few years old we want to buy your r car so go to carvavana enter your license plate answer a few questions and our techno wizardry calculates your car's value and gives you a real offer in seconds when you're ready we'll come to you pay you on the spot and pick up your car that's it so ditch the old way of selling your car and say hello to the new way at carvana

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this just into cnn, the uvalde, texas school board voting to fire school district police chief pete arredondo. he's been criticized after law enforcement waited more than an hour entering classrooms. 19 children and two of their teachers were killed in the attack.

cnn shimon is in uvalde tonight. how did they come to this decision tonight. >> reporter: it's something that took months really and weeks, don. it started after the local texas local officials here, congressional officials finished their report where they really laid sort of blame on all of law enforcement but this idea that pete arredondo was in charge of the scene and he should have taken more action. of course, video was released from inside the hallway of the school room of the school and then also that body cam footage released where you see pete arredondo standing around at one point, trying to negotiate with the gunman. so it was all of that that eventually led us to here and really, in the end it was really the families and the community that was fighting so hard for accountability and finally, here, the school board tonight making this decision to fire him. >> shimon, i want to play what we heard from some residents at

the meeting. here it is. >> our babies are dead. our teachers are dead. our parents are dead. the least y'all can do is show us respect and do this in the public. if it was one of your children, heads would be rolling right now but because it's not, you don't care. >> listen, obviously parents were outraged the school board went to a closed session to discuss arredondo e's future. what did you hear from these families? >> reporter: we heard a lot of that. the frustration and it just continues. the fact there has been no transparency. this school board, don, i have to tell you really has not shown any kind of compassion towards these parents. they do these school board meetings. they allow the parents to speak for a few minutes but there is really no just never any apparent kind of compassion. you know, on monday there was

another school board meeting where the parents were in a room for over three hours. it was a hearing about the superintendent and grievances filed against him and they took all of this information they had, the school board and they went behind closed doors while family members sat in the room waiting to find out what was going on and then finally after three hours, they came out and gave some information but quickly all ran away and so when tonight came, they didn't want that same atmosphere, they wanted things to be open and they wanted it to be discussed for them to hear but even then, the school board decided because of some rules here they needed to take it behind closed doors but they are frustrated, the parents here. this is one thing that they're getting, this accountability, the firing of the police chief but they want more. they want more school board officials to be held accountable and they also want other school officials to be held accountable and of course, other law enforcement members.

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a potential political shift heading into the midterm elections, democrats are optimistic tonight after a special election house win in a swing district. the campaigns focus? abortion rights. is that the winning playbook in post roe america? let's bring in now cnn political commentators alice stewart and political analyst alex burns. he is the co-author of the book, this will not pass. trump, biden and the battle for

america's future. good evening, one and all. thank you so much for joining. alex, we're gonna start with you. we needed amid a reality check on the midterms, everybody's been anticipating a red wave, but that had amex seem to have shifted significantly in the past month. what are you expecting no? >> don, i think there's no question that the circumstances of this campaign have changed substantially since the start of the summer. and it really does help to take a step back and look at the big picture here. the president's party almost always does terribly in the midterm elections, and democrats are probably going to have a pretty rough november. but when you think back to where we were at the beginning of june, with sky high gas prices, the biden agenda dead in the water, or so it seemed, and the republican party facing different kinds of internal turmoil but not in a way that was driving the dynamics of the midterm campaign. well, that was then, and this is now. and i don't think if you had

had that special election in upstate new york early in the summer, i don't know if you would've had the same outcome, because now you have is a democratic base that's more engaged. they feel encouraged by what's happening in washington with biden's legislative achievements, legislative achievements democrats on the hill. you have divisions in the republican party much more in the foreground of the campaign. and yes, you mentioned it in the intro, abortion rights moving it to the forefront of the midterm debate has been a huge challenge to republicans. and this election in new york just showed the party doesn't quite know what to say to voters who are disenchanted from biden, who are uncomfortable with democrats, but believe in the right to choose. >> go ahead, alice. >> don, i think that race that alex is talking about, see the 19 in new york, is a bellwether contest. this is the first opportunity we've had in the primary season in a special election to see a republican versus a democrat head on, and the democrat who

won, ryan used row as the cornerstone and really the focus of his campaign. but i don't think that abortion and roe v. wade is the key ingredient to his success, the secret recipe for him was row, it was part row, it was part falling gas prices and it was part good old-fashioned politicking. he was a really good retail politician, went door to door and really worked on the retail politics to win this race. so all of those factors together. -- >> we had him on, you just on the last hour, and he said that abortion and roe v. wade that was the cornerstone to his campaign, even putting out an ad. just explain to the viewer, he won this house seat in a new york swing district last night after casting his campaign as a referendum on roe v. wade. he said the ground is shifting beneath republicans feet. and they are panicking. go on. >> republicans are looking at that race