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hey, welcome back to "cnn tonight." don lemon is off tonight. i'm still laura coates. who could know that the greatest legal crisis donald trump may ultimately face started at his administration was on the way out the door? not january 6th insurrection, mind you. all the work of the select committee and the doj is not done there yet. but from the move that will never be forgotten, all the boxes sent to mar-a-lago and all those classified documents mixed into boxes like the ones movers hauled off these trucks and into his resort compound. nearly 1,000 miles from where they were supposed to be as the

45th president returned willingly or not to civilian life. scenes like this get a small mention in the 38-page affidavit written by an anonymous fbi agent to make the case to search trump's florida home. now, the age and identity is anonymous and being kept confidential for their safety, of course, as the bureau, as you know, faces growing threats. but what can we now read among the many redactions those much larger fears about how super secret these documents were supposed to be and how sloppily at best they were handled by trump and his people once the papers got to mar-a-lago? that's at best. but the affidavit also warns there is also probable cause to believe that evidence of obstruction will be found at the premises. our jessica schneider has been poring over the documents and joins me tonight.

what are the biggest takeaways from this affidavit? there's a lot there. >> we actually got a lot of new details here, intricate details, really talking about what they found in these 15 boxes that the national archives retrieved back in january. this is separate and apart from the search warrant that was served just a few weeks ago on august 8th. what's notable is 14 of the 15 boxes they retrieved contained classified information and they broke down the types of classified information. it's broken down with 184 unique documents bearing the classification markings. in that it includes 67 listed as confidential, 92 marked secret, 25 marked top secret. what was particularly alarming to intelligence experts who looked at this is just the markings on some of these documents indicating how highly sensitive and how specifically classified they were. so i'm going to run through some of them so our viewers can see

these markings. first of all, i'll run through the top three. i mean, or con, that is document so sensitive that the originator of this document, the agency, actually has to give permission to get it released. then you have hcs. this is particularly alarming for a lot of people knowing that this was at mar-a-lago in an unsecured area. this pertains to human intelligence, information from human sources that if anything gets out and is known, they could be in danger, at risk. noform, this is material that can't even be shared with foreign entities without permission, even allies. so it just shows you how highly sensitive these documents were that were in these boxes. not only that, but the archives talked when they referred this to doj just about how mismanaged these documents were. these were 15 boxes not only filled with classified information, but all sorts of other things like records and

notes. so this is what the archives told doj when they first referred this. they said that those boxes contained newspapers, magazines, printed news articles, photos, miscellaneous printouts, notes, presidential correspondence, all types of things along with a lot of classified records. and then they said our most significant concern was that highly classified records were unfoldered, intermixed with other records, and otherwise improperly identified. it was just a big mess with no care taken at all to the highly sensitive information that these boxes contained. >> the idea of this being treated like it's a junk drawer, right, where you pull something out and you have everything flying around. i want to note, one of the words you used, these are unique documents. we can take away that talking point that it's pages of one long document. these are separate things thrown together in different ways. really, really upsetting. we'll talk later in the program

as well as it red lights to when trump is supposed to respond to the special master request that he's made. we'll come back to that and give you a chance to get through it in a really good way. for a deeper dive, i want to bring in bradley moss, a national security lawyer, john wood, former u.s. attorney and senior investigator for the january 6th committee, and phil mudd, former cia counterterrorism official. nice to have you here, gentlemen. you just heard jessica talk about just that alphabet soup and the idea of this being stuffed in different places like it's almost like a junk drawer. i mean, phil, when you hear about the classifications, the markings, some at these levels that are not even supposed to go to our allies, let alone just put with a post-it note in florida, what is your reaction? >> there's a couple things, mostly chaos and the chaos of an administration that didn't want to accept the election loss.

when i saw the stories about the numbers of boxes, 15 boxes with documents, 14 of those boxes had classified documents, my takeaway was the president didn't want to accept the election results, obviously. in the final days of his presidency, someone went around the white house and said everything from printouts, as you just heard, to other documents, unclassified documents went in the box, along with classified stuff. total chaos that reflects a transition where the president said i don't want to go. then you go to the other end at mar-a-lago and what i learned from the report today was how this stuff was stored. i assumed it was in one room that was at least decently secured. that wasn't the takeaway i had from the report today. multiple rooms, lack of security. so the chaos of a transition where the president wanted to deny the election and then lack of interest. i don't even think there's a strategy here. the lack of interest at mar-a-lago saying i just don't care. that's what i take away, laura.

>> and that notion, brad, i mean, you are an attorney that specializes in security clearance law. you know these classifications like the back of your hand, i'm assuming and i know is the case. the fact this could be so carelessly handled -- first of all, a lot is made about the different levels t laws that might be implicated, the mere possession is likely to be enough in some respects to talk about it. but what would be like in the average person who would have this sort of, you know, jambalaya junk drawer happening? what would be the consequences for those clients? >> i'll say for a normal individual who's held a security cleaning, they wouldn't get 18 months to return things. they wouldn't have all these accommodations made for them. their clearances would have been yanked. look, donald trump never held a security clearance. he never got proper training on how to handle classified documents. the only access he got when he was when he became president. he was told you can do whatever

you want, you can classify or declassify them however you want so he never had to care about the rules that the rest of us have had to comply with. >> if he was never known and may have been ignorant to the fact, does that somehow protect him? >> no. the i'm too dumb to realize how this worked is not going to be a defense for him. what is critical here and why this became a criminal matter is not just that he took the documents to mar-a-lago and they were sitting there. if that's all it was, then he returned it all without a fight, there would never have been a criminal matter. there would have been no harm, no for you. why this became a problem was they had documents and got told more than once you can't have them there. they had to keep fighting with him to get him to turn over, and then he started relocating them according to the affidavit. they're finding these documents in his personal residence in his personal office. he was relocating the records. he could not do that. that's why he's in potential trouble. >> to that point, john, first of all, they called it the 45 office at mar-a-lago. initially when this all came

out, there had been a search, there was a conversation around they broke in different things, they may have a privilege issue. we learned from the affidavit that there was actually a privileged team, an attorney/client privilege privilege team who was separate from the investigative unit to make sure when they searched the office they could anticipate and hopefully undermine any claims they were hurting those privilege if there was something there. but one of the things i'm most curious about, you have raised this in our conversations, it's not only addressed in the affidavit, is why? what is the motivation? why did heavy them? why did they think he had them? going back and forth in all these ways, why do you still want what they told you you can't have? >> it's really bizarre. that is a big question that's not answered in the unredacted parts of the affidavit. but i would love to know where weather the fbi has evidence of why donald trump did this in the first place. was he just being sloppy? is he a pack rat?

or did he want to do something with them? this is the no good explanation. >> we have not yet seen the aspect -- there's a lot of things that are redacted still. maybe they're aware or following a thread. when you see this, everyone focusing on the general umbrella term classification. i'm curious as to never having seen donald trump during his presidency carry documents around, carry bags, carry suitcases, carry boxes. do you have questions about who may have been assisting him to get and acquire and maintain this? is the focus simply on donald trump, do you think, as to why he had them or why he was able to collect and retain? >> heck no. my focus is on the people around him. i don't think the president will be prosecuted if you want me bottom line from the mudd

university of law. i do think people around him because got to have some good lawyers. number one, who was the lawyer who signed the document that says there's nothing left here? did you either not know there were documents there? in other words you just signed a document that said whatever? or did you know when you lied? so there's questions about who covered this up. and then you recollect that the fbi asked for the videos from mar-a-lago. who had access and took documents in or out, including especially people who had access who were not cleared? i think there's a lot of vulnerability for the people around the president, especially people who either lied about knowing whether there are documents there or gave people access when people weren't cleared for access. really basic questions, laura. >> you know, one of the acronyms we talked about tonight, gentlemen, among all the classification is cya, and i think about that when i think about sources. who was able to provide information? what were they concerned with? how did the investigators have

their basis for probable cause? what were people afraid of? were they people who had a hand, who were fearful they might be accused? there's a lot of questions and i suspect it's under these black lines we'll see. bradley moss, john wood, phil mudd, thank you so much. i want to go back to jessica schneider with the new information on another legal front in this investigation. jessica, what's going on. >> coming in just moments ago, we finally got that response from the trump team that had been directed by a district court judge in the southern district of florida. now, remember, it was just earlier this week that trump's team filed in florida enthrall court for a special master. basically they hadn't acting on the search warrant, but what they did act on two weeks later was they wanted a special master a third party appointed to sift through these documents that the fbi has been sifting through and separate some of the materials over concerns of attorney/client privilege, executive privilege.

that was a little muddy because it wasn't even clear that there was even any materials that would have pertained to executive privilege since most of these documents pertained to national defense information, classified material. >> because the fear is if you see it, you can't unring the bell. it can't be unseen, so have a separate team prevent it. >> right. that was what the trump team wanted. when they filed their initial paperwork in court t judge was pretty biting in saying you didn't do this remotely right. look on the court's website, it will show you how to properly file this. she even said i'm not even sure what you're asking for, can you give me some of the legal basis for this? why didn't you file it with the magistrate judge that is dealing with this search warrant? so tonight trump's team has come back with this filing explaining a bit more to the judge exactly the basis for their request. however, laura, you're an attorney, i'm an attorney, i do not practice in the southern district of florida.

i'm not good with motions practice. but i'm pretty sure that this actually does not satisfy what the judge was asking for. this doesn't really cure the deficiencies procedurally this judge talked about. this is still just a motion, whereas they should have filed it either in connection with a search warrant or filed something completely different, maybe trying to get an injunction or something to that effect. this is a lengthy document where they do lay out some of their arguments. i'm still for the sure this is going to do the trick for the judge. one note, however, it was noted that two of the lawyers previously hadn't gone through the right admission procedures in florida. it does, however, seem that they corrected that. they're now admitted in florida. >> to be able to actually be in front of that court. for the audience, i mean, thinking about a motion, it's asking the court -- moving the court to do something, and part of the deficiency before where they were saying, you know, as part of their news release and press release, they were saying

these documents violated the fourth amendment. and normally you have to say you want things to be suppressed or you're firmly a defendant before that happens. if it even meets the criteria, we'll have to see. thank you. it was due at midnight and it's here a couple hours early. thank you, jessica. we're also going to look at what republicans are saying about this affidavit as trump considers capitalizing politically on the search by maybe launching a 2024 bid? is that really next? we'll see, next.

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the redacted affidavit shaking the legal and political world has most of us seeing black. it has donald trump maybe seeing red, and president biden, he probably thought he'd seen it all until he heard trump claim that he declassified all those documents at mar-a-lago. president biden offered his most expansive comments today and mocking ones yet on the topic. >> president trump said that he declassified all these documents. >> i just want to know.

i can declassify everything in the world. i'm the president. >> is it ever appropriate for presidents to bring classified documents home with them? >> it depends on the documents and it depends on how secure. >> time to talk about it with doug jones, alice stewart, who worked for ted cruz, and ramesh ponnuru from the national review. let me start with you, ramesh, because you said before you don't think that he likely should have engaged in this way, president biden, because, frankly, it might be a benefit to donald trump. trump has actually raised millions, millions off of the fbi search, and the contributions actually topped $1 million in the days after the search. a comparison point, they were up from $200,000 a day to $300,000 a day, and his political committee has raised over

$100 million broadly since he left office. so that part of the reason why you would have thought, biden, shh, this is not for you? >> well, i think the more important thing is to restore the norm, which was part of the problem of the trump administration that had eroded that we don't get the presidents involved in this day-to-day investigations, the things that -- the investigations that are pending. but there's no question this has strengthened trump's hand within the republican party ever since the raid happened or the search, depend on which term you prefer. it has helped boost his standing with the republican party. >> the raid, the search, that's a talking point, right? >> i just got another ding from a pac that wants for fundraising money. you got to give president biden and the administration credit for plausible deniability from the beginning. and i believe they didn't know this raid was going on and that's the good place to be as a

president of the united states. when the former president is under such intense scrutiny. but the key is moving forward to maintain that level of distance. you don't take the bait when reporters ask you about it. you don't answer questions. you don't say i'm going to declassify everything. you just refer every question to the doj and the fbi and keep it -- >> damned if you do, damned if i don't. if he had been quiet, they would say i wonder why he's not saying anything, there must be something there. same as what's underneath the black line, what's in the box from "7" like brad pitt. horrible impression. doug jones, what do you think? >> i agree with alice. i think it would really have been better for the president not to say anything. he has made such a point, and i think the american people appreciate that, and everybody does, that he is staying away from this. he's not getting involved. i've known joe biden for a long time.

deep down he wants to say a lot more about this, but he's doing that and that just came out. i just think you won't see that happen again. not that it's that big a deal , but i totally agree that this is something earned just let go and let the department of justice do their job and let the chips fall where they fall. let donald trump raise money off of it. democrats are raising money off this stuff too, make no mistake. it is a political issue for everybody. so that's just the world we're living in today, it's unfortunate. >> this is not just a singular issue of who's able to capitalize off the news of the day. now that he has said something and we are 70-something days away from the midterm elections, trump's not on the ballot in name. of course his shadow and his endorsements are and his policies and politics are. but you have republicans who are not wanting to engage perhaps as well. we're thinking let me distance myself but have a very difficult

needle to thread. the election lies are one thing. now it's i have to agree to the fbi search was a problematic raid, otherwise i got problems. >> right. >> look, a lot of people got way ahead of their skis on this and automatically assumed this was an overreach, this was a witch hunt, this was a prosecutorial overreach. now we see more and finding out more and we're seeing maybe not so much. >> you don't have people coming back. they're not changing their tune, though. >> a lot of republicans are. >> that was a lot of news cycles ago. >> a lot of republicans are keeping their cards closer to the vest these days and not weighing in because they really want to see what is there to be seen. they were a little disappointed with the affidavit that came out today with so much of it being redacted, understanding that the methods and sources need to be protected. but they wished there was more transparency, more answers to come out. maybe we'll see this -- when we saw trump's putting out the

appeal for the special master. we should get more information out of that maybe. >> i think it was fair for republicans to say that the bar has to have been high and that they needed to have real evidence. >> yes. >> and they were going to adopt a wait-and-see posture with that high bar to clear. obviously a lot of them felt this incentive to go way further than just saying that. on the redactions, one thing that's kind of interesting there, that is one of the lines we're hearing from a lot of republicans, enterprise trump's top supporters. but it's interesting as part of the sluggish legal response that trump's team had, they didn't even really ask for the unsealing of the affidavit. the most they did was to agree with the justice department -- the original warrant. they've been sluggish at every stage. >> and remember the redactions are not just the department of justice. those were suggestions by the department of justice. this is court's redactions. >> right.

>> this is the independent branch of government that redacted this. at the end of the day, all the doj was charged to do and that's all they did was make suggestions at the judge's order they made suggestions. it's judge who redacted this thing. and you do think that as we go forward, democrats have to keep talking about this. they have to keep reminding and they need to challenge their opponents. what is your position on this now? how has it changed? by the way, do you think donald trump violated his constitutional duties before, during, and after january 6th? and tie all this a little bit together, even though clearly the one thing that hasn't been talked about much, laura, is that the florida case seems to be standing on its own. and a really important thing is it's in its early stages. >> this is a probable cause base. >> yes. >> we still don't yet know what is in the documents. we have the categories, but what's in them, that's meat on the bone, truly. doug jones, alice stewart, ramesh ponnuru, thank you so

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inflation. >> while hire interest rates, slower growth, and softer labor market conditions will bring down inflation, they will also bring some pain to households and businesses. >> joining me now, cnn economic commentator catherine rampell. when most people hear that, some pain, they wonder what does he mean. what will this mean for ame america's pocketbooks. >> what the chair of the federal reserve was trying to tell markets was the fed is laser focused, completely committed to getting inflation down, even though it's painful. the reason why he wants to hammer home that message is that he doesn't want markets to think the fed will lose its nerve, right? if there is a plunge in the stock market, as there was today, the fed is not going to get spooked and say maybe we're tightening too quickly. one month of data, which was something else he referenced this morning, one month of relatively good or encouraging inflation data won't be enough

to get them to stop their laser focus on getting inflation down. it's really important for them to credibly convince markets that that's what they're doing because otherwise there is a fear that people will continue to expect high inflation, and that expectation will become a self-fulfilling prophecy. maybe that in and of itself will mean they don't have to be quite as tough going forward. >> all people heard was there's going to be some pain, you know? you think of the nuance, they hear that. it may be some pain, but you know what? some people didn't anticipate it might be a painful reaction by some when it came to student debt relief, and i want to go there because this has been a big debate around the country, as you well know, about student debt and the forgiveness plan laid out by president biden. many are hailing it as something that's going to be very beneficial and it'll be great for so many people and it likely will be. but you argue it's going to slow

down a little bit. what's your thought? >> so my basic thought on this is that there are a lot of americans who are struggling under the very difficult burden of student loans. they are people, for example, who were defrauded by fly-by-night, for-profit universities or enrolled in some port of post-secondary program, they took on debt but never got their degree, so they never got the payoff of that debt. or they got a degree that's considered basically worthless by labor market. they're never going to earn enough to pay back their loans. those are definitely people we should be helping. however, the way that this plan is structured involves helping a lot of other people who probably don't need assistance. i'm thinking people like a recently graduated mba who the last couple years didn't have much earnings is because about to start an investment banking job. that person is going to get 10 grand wiped off his or her debt. somebody who looks like they're relatively modest earners right now, someone who's like in a

plastic surgery residency, maybe making $60,000, $70,000, but in a couple years will make $400,000. that person how far, you know, beneficial their work is to the world, how far much they might deserve that salary, probably doesn't need the same level of help. >> on that notion, though, catherine, i can hear the retorts coming right now, it's about entitlement and who might have a windfall. look at corporate america. i mean, all the time they're getting benefits, especially compared to the lell guy. how do you respond? >> just because there's a wasteful use of money in one part of government policy doesn't justify it in another part of government policy. resources are finite. government can't just spend exponentially and we should expect no consequences for the

economy, right? a tax dollar spent on one thing is a tax dollar that cannot be spent on something else. i know people don't always think that way, but that is how it works in the long run. in the long run this will have to be paid for by someone. it is essentially a transfer to people who went to college by people who didn't go to college. so it's a transfer to about 30 million americans from about 300 million americans. and again, some of them are really struggling, but not all of them are. and i just wish that this plan were much more targeted than it actually is. it could have been much less expensive, in fact, than it is. i mean, the ballpark estimates are $600 billion if there's no behavioral change and possibly $1 trillion if people end up taking on more debt as they're likely to do because of the way this is structured. >> we'll see what the impacts will be t arguments on both sides are coming in. but remember, obviously, even debt holders are also taxpayers. catherine rampell, thank you so much.

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retired nasa astronaut leland melvin. what an exciting time for so many people. put this into perspective what this might mean. >> laura, thanks for letting me come on to talk about this really incredible historical moment. the last time that someone walked on the moon was in 1972, december 14th. now we're going back to the moon, launching 8.8 million pounds of thrust the largest rocket ever made going around the moon for 42 days. we're going to have artemis 1, which is a first uncrewed test mission, that will get the first person of color and the first woman walking on the martian surface one day. so this is really something that i think all kids and from all zip codes can think about themselves being part of this artemis generation. >> it's amazing. just for the record, even though we have matching colors on, i'm not the black woman who might be

on the moon. >> you never know, you never know, laura. >> well, you know, are you asking? i might do it. i don't know if i'm trained enough to do it. but why is this so important? why is it that this is such a critical part of our general exploration? why has it taken so long to where we are now since the last time someone was on the moon? >> that's a good question. it's so important because we as human beings, in our dna we're wired to be explorers. when we were little kids, we looked up at the night sky and said what's up there? we have this curiosity. as we continue to explore past our home planet, it helps to take care of the home planet, we're looking at ways to mitigate radiation. that radiation could come down on our planet one day if things go awry with climate change and other things. it's a way we can take care of our home planet by continuing to explore off the planet.

it's taken so long, really, because, you know, there was a war in vietnam going on, so we shut down the program. but then we kicked up the program with sending people to the international space station to do research up there. and we're continuing that probably until 2030. but exploration is past our planet, to the moon, and one day on mars and living and working on another planet. we see these images from the james webb space telescopic to understand what happened in the big bang. what was that like? the more we explore, the more we learn about ourselves, and i think that's critically important. >> leland, the charisma, it's what we think about in terms of what is up there and what we'll find out about this. every person young at heart and somebody who's not, just thinking about all the different ways of what it could mean. just thinking about those images we've seen from the webb

telescope versus this, is there a time line for what we might be able to glean from these journeys? >> definitely, laura. you know, when you go past your comfort zone, you find ways to solve problems that you would have probably never have figured out if you didn't go past the comfort zone. so living and working on another celestial body, the moon, say, you have to figure out how to build a habitat and figure out how to harvest water from the lunar soil. how do you keep yourself warm and how to keep yourself cool, all these things we have to solve. we have these mannequins on the vehicle learning how to mitigate radiation. they have sensors that are outfitted. so we test with dummies first and then have the astronauts solve the other problems. that's the critical part of -- and getting your kids excited. think about that. you might have one of your little ones saying, hey, mommy,

i'm going to go to the moon one day or i'm going to mars one day. and to light that curiosity in our children, all of our children, to say that this is mission possible for them. i think that's another critical piece of what we do when we explore. >> that's so important, although with my kids, if they don't start making their beds, i'll send them to the moon regardless. you know what i'm talking about. but it's important to see you in the position you're in to be able to be that really ambassador of the exploration for people to see it and to get excited in what we're seeing. i mean, this is really exploration in real time, and i'm so excited for this monday. where are you going to be? what's your watch party going to be like? >> i'm going to be talking to another person like yourself during that 7:30 to 2:30 hour, so i will be a talking head like this. but i'm going to be so excited when this things lifts off because i'll think about maybe

one day i'll get another chance. maybe we'll go together. we'll have blue suits and head to the moon one day. >> i like astronaut ice cream. i'll do the whole thing. former astronaut leland melvin, pleasure to speak with you in particular. >> likewise, laura, thank you. we'll go from a rocket to a booster. the next covid booster, that is, could be days away from authorization. will it do anything to curb the rebound cases we're seeing and how effective is paxlovid? we have insight, next.

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policy at the university of minnesota. doctor, thank you for being here. >> thank you. >> tell me, how much protection will this give people? >> well, first of all, we have to understand there is a big difference between having a vaccine and a vaccination. so it should be obvious to everyone. but right now, the highest risk for having serious illness and dying is in those over age 65, second dose 50 to 64. in those two age groups only 25% of those over 65 received two booster doses to date. only 11% of those 50 to 64. so this new vaccine which surely can be helpful will not do much if we can't get the rate of vaccination increased substantially and that's been a big challenge. >> tell me more about paxlovid. what is the correlation? >> first of all, we really have, i think, not fully understood the role that paxlovid plays because all we talked about is

if you have taken paxlovid you have a rebound or do you get, in a sense, a second set of symptoms some days after appearing to recover? well, you're right. it is happening. but there has been two recent studies that show 30% of people who don't ever take paxlovid also have rebounds. meaning, they have that same clinical picture. to say paxlovid is causing that i think is a real stretch right now. and we do know that paxlovid can be effective in those particularly over age 65 in keeping you out of the hospital, keeping you from getting serious illness and dying. so it is really important that we continue to recommend paxlovid and don't be distracted by this rebound issue because, in fact, it may not be a part of the paxlovid picture. >> it could be incidental in some ways. thank you. finally as many parents are having their kids go back to school and some already have, there was an elementary student in georgia who tested positive for monkeypox. this is usually an issue

impacting adults. how concerned should parents be? >> the cases of monkeypox will continue to be primarily occurring among men who have sex with men with multiple partners, anonymous partners. occasionally, rarely, we see contact occurring between someone's arms and a child or bed sheets and a towel where you may have transmission, but it will be very, very rare. in the next several weeks you will see a major reduction in monkeypox among many groups. >> i certainly hope so, thinking of all the different things happening right now. it is important to think about how what's ahead. we're going into obviously another fall season, flu season, discussions about flu shots, as you said so eloquently at the very beginning. the difference being having a vaccine and a vaccination. things are only has good as you are taking them and following the science. doctor, thank you so much. >> thank you. thank you, laura. and hey, everyone, thank you

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