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hello and welcome to our viewers here in the united states and around the world. i'm john vause live in los angeles, coming up here on "cnn newsroom." questions of national security at donald trump's stash of top secret documents at his florida home. a look at what could have been at risk. also ahead -- >> if you are capable of getting out now, get out now. >> fears of massive flooding in mississippi as the governor declares a state of emergency. water levels are expected to rise.
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we're live in the cnn weather center. also ahead -- clasheses b between rival milit in libya leaving dozens dead and others injured. we'll have the latest report. a trump appointed federal judge indicated she's likely it grant a request from the former president's legal team to appoint a special master to review evidence taken from donald trump's sprawling mar-a-lago estate. the application for a special master is seen by many experts as having no legal benefit and is possibly a delaying tactic. meantime, the director of national intelligence will advise senior lawmakers on the potential risk to national security posed by top secret documents being kept at trump's florida home. cnn's white house reporter
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natasha bertrand has more. >> reporter: cnn has learned that director of national intelligence avril haines confirmed to lawmakers on friday that the intelligence community is working together with the justice department to review all relevant documents that have been retrieved from former president trump's florida home mar-a-lago. in a letter to the house oversight and house and senate intelligence committees, haines said her office and doj are conducting a classification review of the relevant materials, including those recovered during the search of mar-a-lago earlier this month. she also noted the intel community will conduct, quote, an assessment of the potential risk to national security that would result from the disclosure of the relevant documents. now, her letter did come after several lawmakers had called for the intel community to carry out this kind of damage assessment and it was sent the same day that the fbi affidavit was released that revealed the trump had kept documents at his home that appeared to include information about human sources and other extremely sensitive intelligence sources and methods.
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according to that affidavit, the fbi's preliminary review of 15 boxes that trump returned earlier this year revealed that 184 of the documents contained classified markings, including 67 marked as confidential, 92, secret, and 25 marked as top secret. some of the documents retrieved even had hcs markings which are designed to protect, quote, exceptionally fragile and unique human intelligence operations and methods. trump and his allies have given numerous and sometimes conflicting explanations for why he kept the documents, including that the former president had issued some kind of blanket declassification order before he left office. and now the fbi did acknowledge that argument in the affidavit, but the rest of that section is redacted, so it is not yet clear why they cited it. natasha bertrand, cnn, washington. and allies of the former president are dismissing the justice department's affidavit which led to the search. they say it is all politically
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motivated. cnn's kristen holmes has those details. >> reporter: the reaction from trump world has fallen into one of three categories. the first one being that public outrage and pushback. that's where you saw the former president trump taking to social media page saying total and public relations subterfuge by the fbi and the doj. we heard from many of his allies publicly saying this is political, and a witch-hunt. then you had the second category, trump allies who went through this, people we have been talking to the last several days who are genuinely concerned that trump is in legal peril. they're worried about the comp competence his legal team and worried that this time is different and this time he doesn't have the same protections he had when he was in the executive office. the last category that -- these are people i spoke about, five of them, former staffers at the white house and mar-a-lago, who said that they were not at all surprised, that in these documents that were newspaper clippings and photographs and presidential correspondence were
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classified documents, documents that were unmarked, unfoldered, in essentially the wrong place. and they said this was because of trump's record keeping in the white house and then, again, in mar-a-lago, said he was known to walk around and pick stuff up from one box, put it into another, there was no rhyme or reason to it, he would rifle through papers. they said he was known to write on some of the documents, even when aides told him not to. he would pick up a piece of paper being set aside and write notes on it to himself. none of this came as a big shock. another source told me one other example of this, i thought this was a good way to look at the way the system works, trump would keep some of these records close to him. he could show them off. and one example were those love letters, the correspondence with kim jong-un. but, again, another look at how there was not really a system and place and, again, this goes to a larger picture here of what they discovered. the sheer volume of documents, but this is one part of that
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that his former staffers, former aides were not surprised to see. >> our thanks to kristen holmes for that report. rivers continue rising ever higher in the state of mississippi. governor tate reeves declaring a state of emergency saturday in anticipation of more heavy rains. the pearl river which runs through the heart of jackson, the capital, expected to rise 36 feet late sunday night. jackson's mayor has a dire warning for residents. >> if you are capable of getting out now, get out now. get out as soon as possible to prevent any incident or challenge with people trying to leave the area all at once. it is possible for approximately 100 to 150 homes to be impacted by this year's event. >> let's bring in derek van dam. this is a situation where they
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keep moving the goal post of when to expect the worst. >> that's right. because now the crest is actually expected to be about 24 hours earle ier than what was forecast. that's significant for the 150 homes that man mentioned a moment ago. they're possibly getting caught off guard when they didn't anticipate having to leave or evacuate so quickly. it is coming earlier than it was anticipated. this is the river gauge. the pearl river at jackson. so downtown jackson, mississippi, the river gauge there. it is currently sitting about 35.1 feet, that puts it into moderate flood stage. it is expected to crest around later tonight to early monday morning hours at 36 feet. that will put it into the major flood category. so the potential there for significant impacts to some of the local neighborhoods and businesses downtown jackson there is the pearl river right there, it runs -- bisects the
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state of mississippi. the flood warnings following along with those major rivers and tributaries across the area. now, the good news is there isn't significant additional rainfall in the forecast. however, showers and thunderstorms will pop up through the course of the day, but we won't see the widespread heavy rain event that we experienced earlier this week that dropped over a foot of rain in some locations. we know that it was a lot of precipitation in a short period of time. that's why we have the -- that's why we have the flooding, but now that water has to go somewhere. water seeks its own level, so it is starting to filter through the larger river systems, eventually emptying into the gulf of mexico. before it does that, we need to see and experience that cresting river, the pearl river downtown jackson and other subsequent locations to the south. here is the excessive rainfall risk for today. it does not include jackson. however, it does include the florida peninsula. you can see the forecast accumulation any of the slow moving thunderstorms still could drop about three-quarters to an
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inch of rainfall in some of the slower moving thunderstorms. and just a quick update on the atlantic tropical basin, i want to take note of this shower and thunderstorm cluster across the central atlantic ocean. 60% probability of development. latest computer models has this pushing toward the leeward islands, bahamas, impacting the u.s. time will tell but we're looking at that very closely. back to you. >> thank you for that. derek van dam with the latest. appreciate that. a fast burning wildfire sparked a level three evacuation on friday, which meant drop everything and leave now. some residents say they were caught off guard by the sudden announcement. >> a friend texted me and said, hey, did you know there was a fire by your house? i hopped out in the yard, looked back, didn't know, checked the internet, saw it was level one. and then my wife and our kids were away and we actually just met back here and then you just told us it is level three. so, yeah, time for us to leave,
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i think. >> evacuation orders have now been downgraded as of saturday night. the fire was 10% contained. the last report no buildings or structures have been lost. in oregon, the rum creek fire has grown to more than 4,000 acres south of eugene, prompting the county sheriff to urge residents to leave. strong winds pushed it to the south and to the east. one firefighter died when he was struck by a tree on thursday. still ahead, flirting with disaster in ukraine. renewed shelling around europe's largest nuclear power plant underscores why u.n. inspectors need to be allowed on to the site with great urgency. also, libya's worst violence in years, deadly crashes between rival militias raising fears the country is spiraling toward greater turmoil. and we're a little more than a day away from the artemis i rocket launch.
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ukrainie ian technicians keep t plant under operation. it was knocked off the power grid for a day after damage to a power line. russian officials are telling state media they're prepared for any scenario at the plant, including potential massive evacuations. they hope to lead a team of experts to the site within days. for more, let's go live to london and selma abd dabdel-azi more on it. there is a potential risk of a meltdown that could affect all of europe, possibly the world. others are saying hang on, not so fast, there could be a problem, but not a local issue, not going beyond ukraine's border. what could potentially go wrong here? >> reporter: i think regard of the back and forth of the accusations the idea that a nuclear power plant, the largest complex of its kind in europe is essentially part of the battlefield right now is highly
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concerning to not just ukraine, but the international community at large. just in the last 24 hours, ukraine and russia trading accusations that each side is shelling around that nuclear power plant. you had, of course, as you mentioned, last week, the power plant being cut off from the grid, cut off from electricity. and for the first time in its history its emergency services needed to be powered on. those needed to come on to keep the nuclear reactors cool, to avert the possibility of nuclear disaster. you pointed to president zelenskyy who has time and time again accused russia of bringing the world one step closer to the possibility of a huge nuclear disaster. now, let's just go through the history of what has happened in the last few months with this. this power plant was seized by russian forces in the spring, they held control of it since that time, while ukrainian engineers, ukrainian workers on the ground kept it running. it has been reconnected to the power grid. so there is some semblance of calm there. but ukraine is saying that
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russia is essentially using this power plant as a military base, as a firing point, using it as an artillery position to hit back at ukrainian forces knowing full well that ukrainian troops can't fire back on the plant without the possibility of a meltdown, of a disaster. so this visit that is expected this week from the iaea is an extremely important one, one that president zelenskyy has been pleading for, one that the international community has called for and one that russia is welcoming. but what you're hearing over and over again from the international community is this visit will be able to ascertain the working conditions there, how well the plant is being run, but what is really needed is to take this plant out of the battle zone, to demilitarize that area. that's something that russia has said it is absolutely not willing to do at this time, john. >> thank you. appreciate that. six months of fighting, the war in ukraine seems to have reached a stalemate. front lines have barely moved in weeks if not months and plans
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for a full ukrainian counteroffensive in the south has yet to fully materialize. earlier i spoke about what the country still needs and why the counteroffensive may look different than expected. >> we do have manpower, the key problem is weapons. we still don't have enough weapons, which we have been asking to provide us and that includes artillery and multiple rocket launchers, most of all. that's something that we don't have sufficient numbers, but from the other side we need to understand the counteroffensive may not take place in a traditional sense. what we do right now we decrease the capacity and capabilities of the enemy of russians, and as soon as we see this is decreased sufficiently enough, we can do the next step. currently we destroying their weapons and destroying their
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positions on a daily basis, including the kherson area. >> andre zagorodnyuk speaking with me earlier. deadly crashes in tripoli are raising fears of libya's insta instability. gunfire and explosions echoed across the capital saturday as the worst fighting in years erupted between rival militias. the health ministry says the clashes killed at least 23 people, left 140 hurt. u.n. mission in libya says neighborhoods were hit by shelling, so too hospitals, destroying dozens of build aengz homes. for more on this, cnn's nadia beshear joins us. what do we know about how this latest round of fighting actually kicked off and it has been a slow boil for quite some time now. >> absolutely, john. these clashes, these tensions have been simmering for some time now. this really centers on a months long political standoff between
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two rival factions in libya. you have the internationally recognized u.n. backed government of national unity based in tripoli, led by the prime minister in the capital rivalling the eastern base administration which has appointed its own prime minister. we saw back in may the allied forces in a failed attempt to seize control of the capital entering tripoli and attempting to take back territory there. and since that failed attempt, we have seen simmering tensions between the two factions, clashes in other parts of the country, and we have, of course, seen those eastern allied militias mobilizing around the capital. there is really all came to a head on saturday, and in the last few days, where we have seen those militias entering the capital from multiple directions and launching attacks against those militias and fighters allied to the u.n.-backed gnu. now, this has really raised
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serious concerns because we have seen some semblance of peace in tripoli, at least for the last two years, as the country attempted to push forward with the u.n. brokered peace initiative. this has raised concerns that this will push the country back into a state of sustained violence and clashes between rival militias. we heard from the united nations yesterday calling on all parties to return to open political dialogue, but, of course, those clashes continue and there are real fears that this could indeed spread beyond tripoli. now, at this stage this has had an immediate consequence, quite devastating consequence, as you laid out there, at least 23 people killed, more than 140 people injured. but we heard from the gnu leader last night, he shared a video on twitter of his visit to the capital speaking to fighters, allied to the gnu, commending them really for their work in what he described as defending the capital, defending the country. he also commemorated those who
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had lost their lives. but he gave a stark warning to members of the opposition, saying the gnu remains committed to democratic elections. at the time for political coups is long gone, that anybody attempting to seize control of tripoli, of libya, by any means at all undemocratic would meet his fighters in the field. we have seen these sorts of clashes before, john. libya is no stranger to this violence, particularly since the end of the 2011 arab spring. we saw the outbreak of that 2014 civil war between rival factions. the fear now is that libya could once again be placed in a state of political paralysis and increased violence and, of course, people in tripoli are fearful for the security and safety of their city. many have been unable to leave their homes as a result of these clashes. the call from members of the international community is for all parties to join a cease-fire and return to peace, to return to negotiations and to establish some sort of lasting political resolution. john? >> nada bashir with the latest
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from london. argentina, 14 police officers have been hurt as dozens of people crowded the streets showing support for former president and current vice president christina fernandez dekushna. according to local media reports, four protesters were arrested. this comes days after prosecutors called for fernandez to be sentenced to 12 years in prison and banned from public office for alleged corruption while she was president. two navy cruisers are passing through the taiwan straits, a routine transit. the ships are on a course which the u.s. says is beyond the territorial sea of any coastal state and in accordance with international law. in the past, beijing protested when u.s. warships transitted through the strait. this time they say they're monitoring, ready to thwart any provocation. tensions have been high in the region after a visit to taiwan
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by the u.s. house speaker nancy pelosi earlier this moventh. china responded by holdiholding rounds of military exercises. still to come on cnn, joe biden following through on a campaign promise to forgive some student debt. they caught up in a political game between red states and blue states. migrants loaded into buses in texas, sent to northeastern cities. we're following one family's journey after the break. c... works hard at hour one and twice as hard when you take it again the next day. so betty can be the... barcode beat conductor. ♪ go betty! ♪ let's be more than our allergies! zeize the day. with zyrtec.
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the world. i'm john vause here in los angeles, you're watching "cnn newsroom." u.s. president joe biden's long awaited plan to cancel student debt is drawing mixed reaction from across the country. cnn's ryan young has our report. >> my campaign for president, i made a commitment -- >> reporter: president biden's announcement of canceling student loan debt for millions of americans created instant strong reactions. is it too much? or not enough? what is your initial reaction when you heard that finally being announced? >> i was, like, great. that means i don't have to pay on what i owe that's left. >> this is a lot of money given out to a small segment of the population and they didn't do anything to really deserve it. >> i have mixed emotions about it. >> reporter: for a small business owner, the forgiveness plan isn't the right move. his family tightened their budget to make sure they kept paying their loans during the pandemic. >> we have done the sacrifices, the no vacations, no out to eats, and now i'm on the other
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side. the reason it upsets me so much is are we setting a good example. >> reporter: brian believes the students should think about the financial impact before taking out giant loans that will affect their futures. >> it is a little upsetting that we kept paying and struggled and through everything and then other people just gave up and quit. and i wasn't raised to quit. >> reporter: the president's plan could affect up to 43 million americans and forgives federal loan debt of up to $10,000 for people making less than $125,000 a year. 27 million americans with pell grants will be forgiven up to $20,000, according to the white house over 45% of borrowers or roughly 20 million people will have their debt fully canceled. it is a plan president biden first spoke about on the campaign trail. >> i'm going to make sure that everybody in this generation gets $10,000 knocked off of
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their student debt. >> reporter: it was matteau gomez who asked candidate biden about his plans to help americans his age achieve their dreams. >> i was asking him overall, does the american dream still exist? >> reporter: he points to the president delivering on a campaign promise, despite wondering if more can be done. >> this is a first step for something. when looking at the campaign promise, he did say that so i could say, check. >> reporter: as a president's plan continues to receive mixed reaction, one thing is clear, the high cost of college is something many believe needs immediate attention. >> education is too expensive. >> we need to go back to the core of why is school so expensive? >> i feel like there is a bigger problem, like the cost of education. >> reporter: as former students digest the president's move to cancel billions in loans, for some, it is a welcome relief. >> i have the debt. i'm paying back the debt. so i will take it and keep it
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moving. >> cnn's ryan young with that report. in what is perhaps the most heartless political stunt in recent times, the governor of texas sent migrants to new york and washington, d.c. in recent months. the governor says it gives relief to overwhelmed border communities and says the white house is ultimately to blame for refusing to security the border. what about the migrants themselves, their people, their families, how are they coping with another arduous move? we spoke to one family about their very long journey. >> reporter: the number of families seeking asylum in new york city is a number that continues to grow. many of the families are quickly learning that the hardships that they experienced, they are far from over, even after arriving in new york city. to get merely an idea of what many of the people stepping off these border buses in new york
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city have experienced, just look at the images they're willing to share. this video taken by chris and his partner earlier this summer. the young venezuelan couple kept a video diary during their two-month, ten country journey from lima, peru, to new york city. they carried only a few belongings on their backs and occasionally their 6 and 9-year-olds as they trekked through central america. it is a place where the northerly path for many migrants often ends in tragedy. but not for this family. during the rest of their journey north, they swaddled their dog max, still a pup at the time, like a baby, to sneak him on to buses and into hotels, fearing that they would be separated.
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but the actual blood, sweat and tears were all worth it for this moment, as they account, the day they waded across the rio grande and on to u.s. soil for the first time officially requesting asylum. after a brief stop in texas, on to a bus and a drive to new york city where they wait for their asylum cases to be heard. what was your first impression of new york? annabelle tells me reality set in once they reached the urban jungle that is her new home, that as much as they want to start earning a living, they can't. they're among the thousands of recently arrived migrants who have to petition for a work permit after submitting asylum applications. it is a process that is taking up to a year according to new
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york city leaders. he says he hopes the government can help him be a better provider for his family, but more than anything else, he's pleading for the federal government to free his hands of the red tape that is keeping him from working legally. >> most of the families i've spoken to, they want to get to work, they don't want to stay in shelters, they want to contribute to society. >> reporter: manuel castro, an immigrant himself, echoing calls for a fast track solution. >> immigration advocates across the country are calling on the federal government to make it easier and make it quicker for asylum seekers to obtain their work permits. that's by far the biggest obstacle. >> reporter: the family says they won't risk their acsylum cases by working off the books. they have to depend on the city's already strained shelter system until they can get the government's green light to start living their american dream. kathy hochul expressing interest in assisting the migrants but
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calling on joe biden to issue some form of executive action that would allow her to do that. the families well aware of the fact that the sooner they can provide for themselves, the sooner they can pull themselves out of the new york city shelter system that is already nearly at capacity. polo sandoval, cnn, new york. brazil's presidential campaign is in full swing. how do we know this? president jair bolsonaro is seen riding a horse around the arena during latin america's biggest cowboy festival. during the festival, brazil's agriculture industry for putting the country on the global stage. he will face off with his main rival in a debate on sunday night. no horses, no hats. averting disaster of epic proportions. t in other parts of the world, intense heat, record drought,
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pakistan's flood crisis goes from bad to worse. more than 1,000 people dead from devastating floods including 348 children. 33 million people in total have been affected by this. pakistan's minister of climate change posted these images online. officials telling her that bridge was built five meters higher than the one destroyed 12 years ago in a superflood. the current floods are a climate-induced disaster of epic proportions. some are dealing with flooding, others suffer from a different type of extreme weather, drought, making life difficult, but also at the same time uncovering some ancient treasures. here's cnn michael holmes. >> reporter: one of europe's
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largest rivers, the rhein, in germany, dehydrated and shallow. swaths of farm land in northern mexico parched, dotted with dead livestock. millions in the horn of africa facing starvation, aid agencies warn. from europe to the americas to africa to northern asia, extreme heat waves and little rain is impacting communities thousands of kilometers apart after a month or more of unrelenting droughts across much of the northern hemisphere. but amid the global hardship and scenes of devastation, blistering temperatures and water shortages are also revealing prehistoric secrets. >> claw marks. >> reporter: emerging from the receding waters of the biloxi river in texas, dinosaur tracks thought to be 113 million years old. the prints have been long preserved by sediment under water, but amid ongoing drought in the southern u.s. state, they are now visible for what is
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likely the first time. >> kind of a double-edged sword. without the river, we wouldn't be able to see them, wouldn't know they were there. once they're exposed, that's when they start to degrade, like any other rocks, they break down over time. >> reporter: another ancient site revealed in a diminished reservoir in spain, as the country battles its worst drought in decades. dubbed the spanish stonehenge, this vertically arranged stone formation is thought to have been created by humans roughly 7,000 years ago. and as drought drags on in china, another rare site, reseating waters of the yangtze river uncovering ancient buddhist statues thought to be hundreds of years old. >> translator: i think the reason why our ancestors built this was because they wanted to pray for a peaceful world and beautiful country. i hope that wish can be passed on forever. i hope the water levels can go up naturally and we may still have a peaceful and healthy world and country. >> reporter: ancient discoveries
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among the rare benefits of blistering temperatures and water scarcity wreaking havoc across the globe. one small consolation for millions who are suffering in the new extremes of an increasingly warming world. michael holmes, cnn. well, afghanistan was suffering from a prolonged drought long before the taliban surged back into power last year. now they're reeling from deadly floods. 200 people dead after weeks of severe flooding. taliban officials say hundreds more have been injured and thousands of homes destroyed. they're appealing to the international community to send emergency assistance as well as long-term aid. wildfires burning in southwest china are mostly contained, volunteers worked with firefighters to bring them under control, severe drought and the hottest weather in decades helped spark the blaze. 1500 people were forced to leave their homes, but no injuries or deaths have been reported. still ahead here, we're a little more than a day away from
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test flight and we're mindful that this is a purposeful stress test of the spacecraft and the space launch system rocket. it is a new creation. it is a new rocket and a new spacecraft to send humans to the moon on the very next flight. this is something that has not been done in over 50 years, and is incredibly difficult. >> artemis i mission manager there mike sarafin on the upcoming lunar mission. so right now a little more than a day away from this plaed uncrewed launc it has been five decades since the last apollo mission. now the u.s. space agency is planning this historic return to the moon. cnn's kristin fisher has details. >> reporter: it has been a long time since nasa's had its own candle to light. >> liftoff. >> reporter: 11 years since the last space shuttle launch. 50 years since the last launch of the apollo program.
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but now apollo's mythological twin sister artemis is on the launchpad and ready to fly. >> until all of us that gaze up at the moon, dreaming of the day human kind returns to the lunar surface, folks, we're here. >> reporter: the artemis rocket or sls is years behind schedule, billions over budget, but it is also the most powerful rocket ever built, and it is designed to launch people even deeper into space than the moon. >> our sights are not set on the moon. our sights are set clearly on mars. >> reporter: first, it has to pass this uncrudeewed test flig with man knequins on board. mission control is at the johnson space center in houston, texas. >> this is apollo control houston. >> reporter: the same place that controlled every apollo and shuttle mission. >> this is where it all happens as far as human space flight. >> reporter: rick la brod is in charge of it all as lead flight
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director. he and his team have been training in this room, for this moment, for over three years. >> when flight day comes, it is a whole different ball game. it is when it really gets real. >> reporter: after launch, the sls rocket will separate from the orien crew capsule on top. it will fly to the moon and then go 40,000 miles beyond it, farther than any spacecraft designed to carry humans has ever flown. >> we're going to swing by the moon and when we swing by it on the way there, we're going to be 60 miles off the surface. it is going to be incredible. the pictures we get as we go by will be really impressive. >> reporter: after orbiting the moon for more than with week, orien will head back to earth with temperatures half the surface of the sun, something engineers can't replicate here on earth. >> the number one highest priority for our mission is to test the heat shield. >> liftoff of space shuttle "columbia." >> reporter: it was a damaged
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heat shield that caused "columbia" to burn up on re-entry, killing seven astronauts. so testing it is crucial. >> for me, artemis i is exciting but it is a stepping stone to getting humans back in the vicinity of the moon. that is awesome. >> reporter: victor glover is one of more than 40 astronauts in the running to fly on artemis ii and iii which will land the first woman and first person of color on the moon. >> we explore for all people, but now we can actually say we explore with all people. >> reporter: kristin fisher, cnn, washington. cnn aviation and aerospace analyst miles o'brien joins me from texas. thank you for being with us. >> good to see you. >> nine hours and 40 minutes before launch time, late sunday night, early monday morning, who makes the call, who are the factors which could determine if it is a no call, if they don't
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go ahead? >> there is a lot of things that could go wrong with a rocket, for sure. charlie blackwell thompson, the first female flight director in nasa history is the person in the hot seat. she'll be making those calls all along the way, listening to her team, who are looking at a myriad of instrumentation attached to that rocket, seeing if any of the pieces and parts are going wrong. there is a particular thing they'll be looking at. when they did the dress rehearsal several months ago, there was a hydrogen leak, which they did the countdown right to that moment, were unable to resolve it on the pad, and so they're going to be checking that out a couple of hours before t minus zero and launch and hopefully that hydrogen leak will have abated. but there is any number of other things that can go wrong in the world of space as you well know, john. >> and orien, the white shiny capsule on top of the rocket, where all the astronauts will be
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there for manned flights, being sent into the space as is? i believe they're relying on backup systems because there was a faulty power component that engineers discovered a ways back. how does that work? >> well, they're leaning forward on this is the way they're saying. there is no people on board. and so this does provide them an opportunity to, the term nasa uses, is buy down risk. they would take more chances they would than if they were strapping people inside, stands to reason. this is about wringing out that orien capsule as best as possible and most importantly seeing if the heat shield works really well as it reen-enters after its mission to the moon. they're going to overlook some things that would not result in the complete loss of the vehicle. and press on because they want this test flight to occur. >> how important is the heat shield? it seems to be a lot of focus on that. >> well, you know, that -- as we
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all can recall, when we lost the "columbia" crew in 2003, if there is a breach in the heat shield, it is catastrophic. this particular capsule will be entering the earth's atmosphere at a speed of 25,000 miles an hour. the shuttle was about 17,500 miles an hour. i'll head you convert to kilometers. i apologize for not having done that. but the point is, it is coming in a lot faster. that means it will be a lot hotter and so they have a very sophisticated heat shield, a lot of instrumentation, laced through it, to make sure it will do the job when people are on board. that is the number one priority of this mission, to make sure that heat shield does the job. >> there are a lot of numbers when it comes to artemis and one number which stood out, just over $4 billion, what the cost is every time there is an artemis mission launches into space. that is an incredible amount of money.
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>> gobsmacking amount of money. the inspector general's office for nasa estimated the total cost of artemis from 2012 to 2025 will be $93 billion. this is a gold-plated rocket, john. it was sold to all of us as being cheaper and faster because it had a lot of leftover shuttle parts that are a part of it. it is anything but cheaper and faster. it has been a long haul to get to this point and way too expensive. and meanwhile, elon musk at spacex with his heavy lift rocket which has moon and mars ambitions, he claims he can do each launch for all of $10 million. so do the math on that. i think we're seeing frankly the end of an era here for this sort of rocket built by nasa on these very lucrative cost plus contracts. >> great to have you with us. we appreciate your insights and
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your experience. enjoy pecos, texas, thanks so much. >> you're most welcome, john. please head over to cnn for an interactive look at this historic launch, scroll through the big numbers from travel to temperatures it will endure to make the artemis i mission such a monumental feat. and the first female launch director at nasa's launch control center for the artemis liftoff, she will lead the countdown for monday's launch, and for the other artemis missions, including the one that will take the first woman to the moon. she was a college senior more than 30 years ago. before we go, the sweet way to celebrate nasa's launch of the artemis i, krispy kreme artemis moon doughnut will be available on monday, the day of the launch. go out and get them. it is a cheesecake cream-filled
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