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her hair color had nothing to do with the decision to let her go, though the head of ctv is on leave when he asked who was approved to let lisa's hair go gray. tweeting, age is beautiful, women should be able to do it. thanks for joining us tonight. "ac 360" starts now. new developments tonight in the battle over classified documents found at mar-a-lago, including a former national security damage assessment getting underway right now. that's in addition to what we have just learned tonight was a similar effort, which began back in may on material handed over in january. at the same time, the former president and his supporters are warning of consequences if prosecutors pursue charges. what is even adding that
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indictment's will, not could or might, but will spark rioting in the streets. john berman in for anderson. and whatever you make of the thinly veiled threat of political violence, you should know it comes from a republican member of the senate judiciary committee. lindsey graham speaking to grey gowdy. >> i'll say this, if there's a prosecution of donald trump for mishandling classified information after the clinton debacle, which you presided over and did a hell of a good job, there would be riots in the street. >> the former judiciary chair did not follow that remark by saying, of course, such violence would be wrong. instead, he repeated and amplify whad he said. and the former president reposted several attacks on the fbi and a post of his own in which he appeared to be calling for an uprising within the bureau. quoting now, one of the great agents and others in the fbi going to say we aren't going to
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take it anymore. he also demanded to be declared, quote, the rightful winner, unquote, of the 2020 election. and like senator graham, he used the 2016 decision not to charge hillary clinton as a reference point. other republicans had different criticisms. >> well, again, my biggest criticism -- and i think the concern of most of the country -- is where's the transparency, right? we want to see it. and one thing i was very aggressive about was saying, look, if you're going to take unp unprecedented action and raid a former president's house, you better have a strategy for uns precedented transparently. >> that's new hampshire governor chris sununu, who is often critical of the former president. it is worth noting how much the government has made public, sometimes under court order, but still. the other unprecedented aspect of it all is that a former president is at the center of it and what he is saying about it in a supercharged political environment in which there has
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already been one armed attack so far on the fbi. tonight the white house said president biden will travel to philadelphia on thursday for a prime-time address on what is being billed as the continued battle for the soul of the nation. we'll talk more about that tonight. first the latest on the documents, the court fight on the documents, and the damage assessment being done tonight by the director of national intelligence. cnn's sara murray joins us with that. what have the justice department said? >> john, it was clear from a court filing today that the justice department has begun digging through these documents they seized from this search in mar-a-lago. they're using a filter team. and what they said in a court filing is they have discovered a limited set of materials that could contain attorney client privilege information. even though this process has already been underway, the review has been underway, the trump team still wants a special master essentially, an
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independent lawyer involved in the view. they don't feel they can trust the justice department team. a judge is considering that. she's open to that, and she's going to hold a hearing on that issue on thursday. >> what else can you tell us about the damage assessment being done by the intelligence community regarding the documents at mar-a-lago? >> there's been a lot of concern about the sensitivity of these documents, how they were handled, and what could have happened if they got into the wrong hands. avril haines did make it clear to congress that the intelligence community is conducting this assessment. this is a national security assessment about what would be the national security risk if these documents were exposed. we're also learning, my colleagues are reporting, that intelligence officials, along with the fbi, have been looking into some of these documents they previously got -- remember that traunch of 15 boxes the national archives previously got from mar-a-lago. they've been sifting through those looking at materials that were marked classified and trying to determine what the actual classification levels of
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these documents were. were any of them perhaps declassified? and are there any states the el interest jens community needed to take at that point to try to protect sources and methods? so, in many ways this effort has already begun, john. >> sara murray, thank you as always for your reporting. perspective from andrew mccabe, legal analyst, carrie cordero. also with us political analyst and axios managing editor. so, andrew in terms of the damage assessment, how will dni haines go about evaluating the national security risk posed by the former president having classified and top secret documents at mar-a-lago? >> so, the folks operating under dni haynes' authority are going to look through every one of those documents and they're going to figure out what is the home agency that made the original classification of that document? and then they're going to go
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back to that home agency, whether that's cia or fbi or nsa and ask each of them to review the documents individually to say, do you feel you have sources in jeopardy by virtue of the release or the poor storage of these documents? or has it potentially compromised a technical intelligence collection opportunity? and they're going to wait to see what those home agencies report back. and with all that, they'll have an assessment as to how much damage has actually been done. >> so, the intelligence review of these documents began back in may specifically to determine whether any media efforts needed to be made to protect methods and sources. how will those determinations be made do you think? >> john, that's a reference to the first 15 boxes of information, which we now know by virtue of the letter from the national archives that was revealed last week, those boxes were officially turned over the to fbi on about may 12th of this year. so, the fbi went through a process just like the one i just
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described to you. the bureau would have looked through all those materials, pulled out those that are fbi documents, or things that were classified in the course of fbi investigations, and of course handed out the other is. so, any other cia materials, nsa materials, those would have been sent back to the home agencies. and they'll have compiled the results of that classification review and damage assessment. >> so, separate issue here. the fact that the justice department has come forward and said it has already basically completed its initial review of the documents seized at mar-a-lago for issues of privilege, does it make it less likely that the judge will agree to the former president's request for a special master? >> well, i think it weakens the argument for the special master for sure. so, not sure which way the judge is going to go on this. the judge has already indicated perhaps a lean towards being inclined to grant the special master. but the fact that the justice department has already gone through these -- and as we know
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from the portion of the affidavit that was released -- had laid out a team process. so, a separate team, separate from the main investigative team that was designed to review privileged materials, which is a standard practice when they think they may encounter attorney/client privilege materials. the fact they've already gone through them, advised the judge who approved the warrant in advance of using that team really makes the arguments in favor of a special master much less strong. and they weren't very strong arguments to begin with, john. >> margaret, lindsey graham, the former of chair of the senate judiciary committee, with his statements saying there will -- will -- be riots in the street if the former president is prosecuted, what do you make of that statement? >> well, john, senator graham and his team have said, you know, he's just predicting what he's concerned could happen. but clearly there are a lot of
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people who are in the political world or the national security world who say, hey, like, that's not enough that senator graham has an obligation as a member of the senate, as a steward of good governance to insist upon the rule of law, to preemptively, you know, condemn any violence, to defend the legitimacy of the work that the fbi is doing. and clearly if every republican in leadership came out and said, you have to let the fbi do its job, there would probably be less of a chance of any kind of a repeat of january 6th. i also want to say, kerry and andy better experts on this than i am. but watch the special master argument unfolding later this week. it's very important. this is not just a matter of a third party having a look at it. the implication of the special master is an involvement who
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goes straight to one of the former president's favorite playbooks, which is to run out the clock, to delay, to some extent block the government from being able to handle the information it's already got. so, there's a lot going on here. and senator graham is not totally uninterested bystander in addition to being an important ally at times of former president trump. he has also been actively trying to make it so that he does not have to testify to a grand jury in georgia in that election interference case. >> he's got separate things going on completely. kerry, the comments from senator graham, how will they be viewed within the justice department? >> well, senator graham is on the judiciary committee, so the justice department always pays attention to what he and other members of their oversight committee say. but the way that i look at senator graham's statements are from the perspective of the justice department, including the fbi and the department of homeland security, actually have
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responsibilities to conduct assessments regarding acts of political violence or domestic violence extremism. so, senator graham is in a position where he could actually turn to the executive branch and say, is this something that you are learning about in the course of your investigative and your analytical national security and homeland security responsibilities? what concerns me is that doesn't appear to be what he's doing. instead, he's just sort of saying, this might be something that happened. and so, the difficulty is that when there's a legislator who is quite knowledgeable about matters of the justice department, quite knowledgeable about national security and foreign policy, speaking about threats to homeland security that are not grounded in actual analytical assessment, then that can have a damaging effect both on assessments that are made in the future about homeland
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security threats as well as just really confusing the public about what the status of political violence is in the country right now. >> and andy, a bit of news just in. we just learned that u.s. secret service assistant director tony ornato who was at the center of cassidy hutchinson's testimony to the january 6th committee, has left the secret service. what can you read into that? and should that or will that have any impact on whether the committee can or will compel him to testify? >> you know, it's hard to read too much into that, john. you know, federal agents and particularly federal agents in high ranking leadership positions are eligible to retire when they reach age 50 and have 20 years of service. and most do retire shortly after they're eligible because they opportunities for second careers in the private sector. it's entirely possible that that's all that's happened here. we've heard some reporting that he was planning on leaving
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before cassidy hutchinson testified. the important thing here, though, is what is the january 6 committee going to do about obtaining his testimony? the fact that he's no longer with the service doesn't mean he's beyond the reach of the committee. if they want his testimony, if they feel he's an important witness, they're going to need to drop a subpoena on him and compel his appearance. the thing to watch here, i think, is how the committee reacts to this development and whether they continue to pursue him. >> and we will watch that to be sure. andrew mccabe, kerry, margaret, thank you all. next how fallout from the supreme court's decision overturning roe versus wade is having motivated factors for democrat voters and influence in at least some republicans' campaigns. the latest on the military operation now underway in ukraine and what amounts to the long talked about big counter offensive against russian forces in the south.
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new tonight from cnn's investigators, they have discovered arizona senate republican candidate blake masters have scrubbed his campaign website of controversial language, including the false claim the 2020 election was stolen. also gone are a passage saying democrats were trying to import a new election, weakening the power of native born americans. they were not the only items gone from the site or changed somehow. others concerned abortion. the changes speak to how mobilizing the issue already appears to be for women voters and how much more it could become by november. and as kyung lah reports, masters is not alone. >> most people support common sense regulation around abortion. >> reporter: blake masters surrounded by his children, trying to reset the debate over abortion rights. >> i support a ban on very late term and partial birth abortion.
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and most americans agree with that. >> reporter: just after this digital video drop, masters campaign site scrubbed strict antiabortion language. before, masters wrote he's 100% pro-life, calling roe v. wade a horrible decisions, then listing a series of strict stances on abortion. now, a softer tone. roe went from horrible to a bad decision. the words 100% pro-life removed from this section. and that list of positions is shorter. >> there's no getting around it that abortion in his particular race is a hot, hot issue for one of those swing coalitions. he has to speak to that issue. and being pro-life 100% of the time isn't going to get him there. so, he has to attempt to make that pivot. >> the campaign says he remains 100% pro-life. but he's not the only one retooling. >> i'm tom barrett. >> in michigan's 7th congressional district, tom
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barrett fund raised as 100% pro-life, no exceptions. but over the weekend, his website, that listed a value section to protect life from conception, is now gone. barrett's campaign tells cnn, we regularly update the website. >> should all abortions be illegal in this country? >> in iowa's republican primary to represent the third congressional district -- >> for all abortions, no exceptions. >> reporter: the man in the center, zack nun, won the republican nomination. the incumbent, democratic congresswoman sidney axne turned that primary debate moment into a campaign ads. >> even in the case of rape, even in the case of incest, even if a woman's life is in danger. >> nun's campaign did not respond to cnn's request for comment on the attacks. but nunn wrote in an editorial and said the ad is false and says we must be compassionate toward women and unborn
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children. republican nominee scott jensen, a doctor, said this in a radio interview before the primary. >> if a mother's life is in danger, i think that that would have to be a medical consideration and an area for potential exception. >> no exceptions for rape or incest? >> unless a mother's life is in danger. >> reporter: now in the general election, he's calling his previous words clumsy. >> if i'd been unclear previously, i want to be clear now. rape and incest along with endangering the mother's mental or physical health are acce acceptable exceptions. >> it is an animating issue, particularly in tight congressional and senate races, where there are lots of college educated white women. but that's not every district in america. in select races you're seeing these shifts on abortions. the challenge is on some of these hot issues, the other campaign keep receipts, meaning they have the website. they have the primary tv ads.
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>> too dangerous for arizona. >> reporter: those receipts are now appearing in general election ads. democratic campaigns and groups have spent more than $15 million in ads referencing abortion since roe was overturning, taking a chance to energize voters this november. >> and kyung lah joins us now. kyung, there are pivots in politics, especially in general elections where the electorate is different than the make-up of the primary campaigns. on an issue like this as central as abortion, the question is, can you do it on this? >> well, tbd november, right? and a lot of these close races are going to test whether or not they actually can. you're right, john. we're talking about a wedge issue like abortion. this isn't like shifting on land use policy. it really talks about when you talk to republican consultants, how sincere that candidate is,
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how ernest, and whether people buy it. still feel the inflation, and economy will be key motivating issues in november. but in arizona, where gas today is $4 a gallon, a big drop from where it was a few months ago, those issues take less precedence. we'll see where gas prices are in november, john. >> terrific report. thank you so much. joining us now with all the numbers, harry enten. we're both in prime time. >> hey! we finally did it. >> what are the numbers on roe and overturning roe in arizona? >> i think if you look at the polling in arizona, what you see is the clear majority of voters disapproved of the decision to overturn roe v. wade. i've looked at all the swing states, and you see it continuously. the vast majority overturning roe v. wade.
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they did not like it. if you look at that senate race, you look at blake masters, why is he all of a sudden coming out with new language on his campaign website? maybe the fact he's down by 8%s to senator mark kellty. it's clear that voters in arizona are against the overturning of roe v. wade. >> what about the national stage? >> if you look nationally and say, okay, normally abortion, if you look in years past is a motivating factor for republicans, those people who are against abortion rights. but look at this "new york times" poll from last month. and essentially they said, okay, what's your most important issue? and if your most important issue is abortion, who do you favor in these races? if you look at that slide, the democrats candidates are favored by an over 50-point margin at this point. you know i like studying polls, john. i've never seen anything like that. >> that's an enormous margin to see on a single issue. what is this doing here?
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how is this moving -- or what are you seeing, i should say, in the congressional ballot test? >> the congressional ballot test is a question asked, if the election were held today, would you vote for the democrat or republican in your district. i was not expecting that to change after roe v. wade was overturned based upon some of the polling we were seeing. if you look at the generic ballot today, in fact it is tied. john, i like looking back at history. i don't really ever recall this happening where in fact the momentum is going towards the president's party. because normally over the course of a midterm year, you see the momentum turning against the president's party. but we're seeing democrats gaining ground. while there are other issues, such as gas prices, to me, abortion is the clear line where once that decision happened, you saw democrats gaining ground. and the truth is they really haven't stopped gaining ground. >> and you see special elections, the ballot test
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shifted. and there have been other things, gas prices and thiengs. also the president's approval rating. what's happening there? >> yeah, if you look at the president's approval rating, again, the normal thing that happens here is that the president loses ground as they're heading into a midterm election. but if you look over the last 40 days or so, joe biden was basically at his bottom, right? he was in the mid 30s. you look 30 days ago, he gains a point. you look 20 days ago, again a gain. 10 days ago, you're seeing another gain. today you're seeing a gain. now he's in the low 40s, which is not awesome -- >> no, it's not great. >> it's not great. but compared to where he was, it's very clear that what's ever happening on the generic ballot is helping joe biden and i think also obviously the inflation reduction act-so-called. it's helping biden as well. when you put it together and painting the midterm picture
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going forward, it's clear democrats have momentum at this particular point. will it be enough? will it keep going? but there has been movement. there is no question over this point over the last four weeks, there has been movement. >> that's exactly right. >> great to see you. >> maybe we'll do it tomorrow morning. >> sounds good. up next we're going to talk about that data on abortion and president biden's rising approval rating with our political commentators and get their take on what this all could mean for the crucial midterm elections. new astepro allergy. now available without a prescription. astepro is the first and only 24-hour steroid free spray. while other allergy sprays take hours astepro starts working in 30 minutes. so you can... astepro and go.
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just hours ago, a russian appointed official said ukrainian forces launched an attack at a russian-held town in southern ukraine, knocking out its electricity and water supply. this comes as new reporting from chief national security correspondent jim sciutto says according to two u.s. officials, ukrainian officials in the south are preparing for a significant counteroffensive. an inspection team from the watchdog is on its way to the zaporizhzhia power plant amid shelling and fears. handing out iodine pills to residents. the delegation is expected to arrive in kyiv today. joining me now with the latest and his reporting, cnn chief national security correspondent jim sciutto. jim, thanks so much for being here.
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what more have you learned? >> it looks like, john, we're seeing the first steps of it, the first ground steps of this counteroffensive in the last 24 hours. over the weekend, we were seeing, as we reported, the shaping exercises. it affects striking targets to prepare the battlefield for the ground offensive. throughout today, we saw ukrainian forces take four villages, this around the area of kherson. and now these attacks you just mentioned there. you start with the shaping operation, soften up the target in effect, and then you go and move those ground forces. it's the view of the u.s. officials i spoke to that this is going to be quite a significant counteroffensive and one that involves both ground and air attacks. >> so, we have seen some operations, small scale, over the last couple months, which they did call counteroffensive operations. what's different about this now, jim? >> size, range of targets, and really ambitions. the ambition here from the ukrainian perspective is to gain
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back territory that they lost weeks or months ago in the early stages of this invasion. it appears that the focus will be in the south around kherson. it's really the only provincial capital that's been captured by the russians since the start of the invasion. their ambition here -- and john, you and i have reported on the public comments of ukrainian officials saying, listen, we're not going to sit back and satisfy ourselves with defending so that we don't lose more territory. the intention of the ukrainian president and his commanders is to pull back some territory that's already been lost. and this is something that u.s. officials have seen, has been communicated to them for some time now. of course the test will be how much of that territory can they gain back and over what period of time. >> and how much can they hold and how long will the front be? these are all questions we have to watch and see how this develops. also, jim n recent days there's been this increased concern of a potential for disaster at the russian-held nuclear power
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plant, the zaporizhzhia plant. just how dire is the situation on the ground there? >> it's dangerous for two reasons. one, you've got real fighting going on around europe's largest nuclear power plant. this has never happened before to have a war shut down. there's that element. and by the way, that fighting is still going on, shelling in both directions. the russians now hold that territory. but then you have another factor here, which is the suspicion among ukrainian officials in some of the west, that russia intends to steal the power from this plant. it's already been cut off from the grid, and basically funnel it back towards russia, which would have significant impact on ukraine and the ukrainian economy. the good news is that all sides have agreed to allow iaea inspectors who are going to go in and see the state of the operations. you do have the ukrainian technical staff still there attempting to do their jobs as best they can. the question is, does this lead to something that provides for a longer-term, more sustainable safety around that plant, for
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instance, a no fire zone. we haven't seen any evidence of that yet. >> you broke the news of the counteroffensive this morning, you've been following it all day. i appreciate you joining us tonight. next back to politics. new polling and tim pact of the supreme court overturning roe versus wade. oblem so lve togethe, and find the answer that was right under their nose. or... his nose.
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ha harry enten, showed us how voters disapprove of roe versus wade being overturn. and there's talk there could shift more votes to democrats in november's midterm elections. good evening to both of you. s.e., we heard from harry about the poll numbers on this. how much do you think this could help democrats in november? >> a lot. and that was clear, you know, the second roe v. wade was overturn. if you look back at historical trends, abortion is really unique. attitudes on guns have changed a lot over the years. climate, for sure. gay marriage, attitudes have changed significantly. when it comes to abortion, if you shrunk down from 1976 to now, it's basically a straight line. people want legal abortion with some restrictions. so, when abortion was going to be effectively banned, i mean, i
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said at the time there was not going to be a better motivator, a better turnout driver for democrats than this issue. but i also think it's just also representative of a larger extremism that i think folks in the middle, independents, folks who even lean center-left, center-right, an extremism they see out of the far right that is encapsulated in the abortion and rolling back access to it. but it's in all kinds of other things, regressive education policies, book bans, story of this dystopian delorean that most people want to get in. >> i didn't know the delorean was going to be part of this discussion. karen, when you look at the overall numbers and you can see the congressional ballots as looking better for democrats and the president's approval ratings not bad as they were, do you see
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the overturning of roe as being that driving factor? >> oh, 100%, john. actually, we saw that several months ago -- as you know, i'm vice chair of the board of pro choice america. and frankly, we've seen over the last 10 to 20 years a growing from about six in ten americans who support roe v. wade to now eight in ten americans. i think it's really important we understand. it's not just about abortion. if you look at what happened in kansas, if you look at what happened in new york, it's about freedom. it is about a fundamental freedom in this country and whether or not women are equal provisions or not. and when you're talking about women like myself, who have now had a right taken away, and you've got young women recognizing the right they took for granted has been taken away, it's been a wakeup call. and the other thing i think that's so important, john, to remember is that, as we saw last week in states like tennessee, we have additional states that will continue to have these
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abortion bans coming on line throughout the fall. and that is going to continue to mobilize voters in support of democrats. >> s.e., as harry pointed out, president biden's approval rating is creeping up ahead of the midterm election. and this generally does not happen to a president heading into a midterm. a president's party typically does not do well in a midterm election. so, what do you think is driving that incease, s.e.? >> yeah, and that's despite, you know, what i think was a student debt debacle. i know there are democrats who don't think that that was a good idea, certainly not a necessary one and one that's going to hurt a lot of democrats state candidates around the country. so, even in spite of that, in spite of a shanky economy, biden's numbers are going up. what does that tell you? that tells you people, i think, are now starting to be able to envision 2024. and what does that mean? who are republicans offering? well, it's donald trump so far and maybe ron desantis.
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i think to a lot of people, you could say democrats aren't getting the economy right. maybe they're making some mistakes. but, again, i think this version of extremism that's being offered up by the far right is really scaring off a lot of moderates. that's it. plain and syimple. >> go ahead, karen. >> i was going to say, a climate for democrats is improving. does that mean we're going to win the house? we don't know. it looks better in the senate. i agree with s.e. we're talking about candidates who campaigned on extremist policies and loyalty to donald trump. and many of these candidates not just running for the senate and the house but for running for the ways to control the levers of our democracy, runs for attorneys general, running for governor. and i think that has been a real wakeup call. and it's turned the election into a choice between a party that is talking about the future and protecting our rights and a party that really wants to take us backwards. >> s.e., how much of a factor do
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you think donald trump is at this point? he is much more in the news than he was a few months ago. some of it because of the raid. some of it because how he's responded to the executed search warrant. how much of a factor is he? i ask because president biden, he made this comment saying some followers engaged in the maga philosophy is semi-fascist. instead of running away from it, he seems to be leaning into it. joe biden is giving a speech thursday night in philadelphia to talk about what he calls the continued battle for the so you felt nation. what do you see there, s.e.? >> yeah, he's not wrong. i think i prefer he leave the pun den tricep to us. but i think he feels emboldened to say that. if you ask how big a factor donald trump is, ask a conservative like ben shapiro. i don't know if you saw his thread today on twitter, but he
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is blaming donald trump for republicans losing momentum in the midterm elections. i think republicans have decided to run with trump. and the ones that you hear the most about, the most vocal, are the craziest, right, the ones that want to roll back voting rights and abortion rights and ban books and all that non-sense. people equate that with trump. i think trump is a huge factor. >> s.e. cup, karen fenny. serena williams in the midst of what is possibly the final u.s. open of her career. we're going to speak with tennis analyst and carrie champion.
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the legendary tennis career of serena williams is coming full circle tonight, as she is currently playing what could be her final u.s. open. earlier this month, williams said she would, quote, evolve away from tennis after this year's u.s. open after decades of dominating the tennis world. no matter the outcome of the match, her 23 -- 23 -- grand
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slams slams titles will go down as the most as any player in the era. williams has also won every grand slam doubles title at least twice along with four mixed doubles tietles. joining me now, espn tennis analyst and former tennis star patrick mcenroe, and carrie champion. they're both there at the open tonight. patrick, look, serena won her first grand slam in 1999 at the open at the age of 17. so, how fitting is it that this is where her pro career could end? >> oh, it's absolutely -- it's so fitting, john. as you said, full circle for serena. you realize that when serena started her professional career, which was in 1995, she was a teenager.
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over 70 players that were currently in the field -- that's 127 of the other players -- over 70 of them were not even born yet. so, here is serena as a mother, as someone, as you said, who has done it all in tennis. she will go down as the greatest of all time no matter what happens tonight and the rest of the tournament. this is a celebration for serena, all she's meant for tennis, for sport, and speaking out on behalf of women, on behalf of african american women. she has just -- the -- what she will leave behind is way more than what she's done on the tennis court. and that's saying a lot. >> carrie, how electric, how much of a celebration has it been in the stands with serena williams on the court? >> well, it's been a great one. fers of all, thank you all for having me. patrick, i have to go find you once i get off this phone call and harass you. second of all, the mood is electric. everyone is excited. i'm speaking for myself, but i'm also speaking for the fans.
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as patrick said, absolutely correct. she beat her generation and then the next, and now she's starting against the other. and she knows it's time to take a bow. but doesn't she do it in such a queen-like fashion? the narration of queen latifah giving us a minute or so video to open it up for the fans here and those watching at home to talk about what type of queen she has been for so many of us. and i'm speaking for women. i'm speaking for black women. i'm speaking for women that never -- serena's contribution far exceeds what she's done on the court. it's off the court, to me, that really matters. i don't have to know her to relate to her. i don't have to know her to understand her battles and what she's been trying to prove. i don't have to know her to understand that, while she may have not been necessarily appropriate for some, she spoke for a lot. and that is where we are today. everyone is excited!
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>> i mean, there is nothing like it on earth when you have 100% of the crowd at the u.s. open and arthur ashe behind you. she has more than 100%, and i know that's not mathematically possible. what carrie's describing there is serena williams as a transformative figure. how? >> well, i think because, as carrie so eloquently put it, she speaks for so many people. and she's been, in some ways, unapologetically brash in the way she's gone about it. and sometimes that's gotten her into a little bit of hot water. but that's serena. and that, again, is speaking for people in a predominantly white sport. let's be honest, for years and years coming up as an african american young girl from compton, california, with her big sister, venus, and having to deal with racism as they were kids -- that's one of the reasons their dad richard -- we saw that in the movie "king richard" -- took them out of
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junior tennis because he saw what they were dealing with. he didn't want that to happen. of course it happened along the way. it probably still happens to some degree. but she has always been out there speaking for young girls, for women, for the african american community. and you know what? plenty of women, girls, have picked up this sport from all backgrounds because of what serena and venus have done. and she's also changed, john, the way the game is played on the court from players from all over the world. so, there's just so many layers to what she's done. and i think for her, this is tricky, this spot at the u.s. open, because she's the ultimate competitor, the ultimate winner. and for her to know that this is all going on, swirling around her, she agreed to have this type of sendoff really i think for her fans more than anyone else. usda has a whole thing planned after this match tonight win or lose. something tells me maybe serena can go on and win this match. by the way, she's looked awfully good in the opening set and a
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half. serena may be thinking about her match wednesday night, which would be against the number two seed who won her match tonight. >> that will be something. serena williams is a sensation. thanks to both of you for helping us share this evening. >> of course. of course. thank you. have a good one. next, an historic mission delayed. nasa scrubs the first rocket launch of its much anticipated return to the moon. why the launch was postponed and when nasa will try again when n our countdown continues. my dad's been wondering about hihis childhood address for 70 years... and i found it in five minutes. ...that little leaf helped me learn all the names from the old neighborhood... it felt like a treasure hunt. the 1950 census adds vivid new detail to your family story. and it's available now on ancestry.
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nasa scrubbed its artemis i space scrub today. engine cooling trouble was to blame, along with a series of weather issues, including another possible lightning strike, like the one that hit a nearby tower on saturday. nasa will try again on friday. they will be using the most powerful rocket ever built, generating 15% more thrust than the saturn rocket used during the apollo mission. the rocket will be 100 miles over earth before the core stage will separate, followed by the upper stage, when the orion capsule will separate and travel solo to the moon 8 to 14 days and beyond. the capsule will travel nearly
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25,000 miles per hour and endure temperatures nearly 5,000 degree degrees fahrenheit. finally splashing down in the pacific ocean. did you get that? there will be a test. the news continues. so, let's hand it over to victor blackwell and "cnn tonight." blackwell and "cnn tonight." victor? -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com >> john, thank you. i'm victor blackwell, and this is "cnn tonight." we begin with a possible threat posed by the donald trump keeping documents in his beach club. the director of national intelligence tells cnn her office is digging through the classified documents to understand the risk of being taken to mar-a-lago in the first place. then there's the danger looming over non-political career civil servants. the head of the national archives said threats from donald trump supporters are coming. the archive has confirmed the staff accusing us of conspiring against the former president. at the sam
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