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>> hi, everyone. this is easton. thank you for all of your prayers. please keep praying for me, as i continue to get better. >> so glad he's getting better. he's now back home in his home state of utah after making strides in his recovery. keep you posted. thank you for joining us. "ac 360" starts now. just days after dropping the f bomb on some supporters of the former president, joe biden has sharp words for republican lawmakers on a traditionally republican issue, law and order. john berman in here for anderson. he's calling them out just days after senator lindsey graham predicted street rioting if the former president is charged in the mar-a-lago case. and following a string of verbal
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attacks on the fbi by congress members and the former president, just two days before what the white house says will be a primetime presidential address on the soul of the nation. if that weren't enough, his new tough talk comes just as the documents case is about to take another turn, with the justice department about to file new court papers tonight, aiming to block attempts by the former president to slow it down or stymie it. that is the backdrop to what joe biden said today in northeastern pennsylvania. >> let me say this to my maga republican friends in congress, don't tell me you support law enforcement if you won't condemn what happened on the 6th. don't tell me. can't do it. for god's sake, whose side are you on? whose side are you on?
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>> meantime, on his social media outlet, the former president today launched one post after another about the 2020 election, which he now says should be rerun, and the fbi. now, without specifically leveling blame, joe biden today spoke out against the climate of fear and intimidation the former president is making no effort to change. >> now it's sickening to see the new attacks on the fbi. threatening the life of law enforcement agents and their families for simply carrying out the law and doing their job. look, i want to say this as clear as i can. there's no place in this country, no place for endangering the lives of law enforcement. no place. none, never, period. >> again, this comes just hours before a big moment in the mar-a-lago search and just two days before a speech to the
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nation, presumably about some of what you just heard. we'll talk about it all tonight. cnn's kaitlan collins starts us off from the white house. the president went to pennsylvania clearly to talk about law enforcement. clearly to talk about the fbi. what can you tell us? >> reporter: he went there when it came to these attacks on the fbi. we have not seen him, john, be this forceful yet since we have seen those attacks and the threats against the fbi has spiked since that mar-a-lago search several weeks ago. the threats had jumped up so much, even the fbi director, chris wray, who doesn't speak out often, put out a statement calling these threats dangerous and deplorable to the rank and file members of the fbi, who were just doing their job that day by execute thing search warrant and retrieving those sensitive materials. so joe biden tonight calling it sickening, going after that small but vocal group of republicans who have said they should defund the fbi, saying obviously he does not support
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that and likening him saying he doesn't support defunding the police. but a notable comment from joe biden coming out and being so forceful in condemning these attacks on the fbi and other of the nation's top law enforcement agents. >> it was notable. we hadn't heard this from him yet. he almost seemed to make an oblique reference to lindsey graham. what was the thinking about that? >> reporter: he didn't name him, but it was clear who he was talking about. there were these comments on sunday that senator graham said, saying this trump is prosecuted for taking this material to mar-a-lago, but hillary clinton was not prosecuted when she used a private email server, when she was -- for her communications when she was secretary of state, lindsey graham there would be riots in the streets because of it. and joe biden referenced it today, talking about senior senators going on television talking about what the reaction would be. he talked about blood in the streets, senator graham's words were "riots in the streets" if
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that happened. senator graham's spokesman said he was making a prediction and graham said he wasn'ted a ed a advocating for violence. >> it's notable, again, that he's doing this really for the first time in this way tonight in that we learned that on thursday, he's giving a primetime address to the nation on the subject of the soul of the nation. so what do we expect there? >> reporter: he's making three trips to pennsylvania. that one today. he has a second on thursday and another one next week and it comes as former tr er president is going to pennsylvania on saturday. back in 2020, joe biden talked about running for the soul of america, basically saying there is this threat to democracy. that is why he wanted to take office and felt like he needed to run for office to help in
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that battle. something that he clearly made clear today is something that he still thinks is a threat. it's still very much happening. so the white house has said we should expect him to talk about that on thursday and be forceful. of course, that comes after he was forceful today in pennsylvania. so we'll just see how much he changes that rhetoric. but john, certainly a preview of what you should expect to hear from joe biden we are told on the campaign triail before the primary. >> kaitlan, thank you very much. more now on what the justice department will have to say to a florida federal judge tonight. the doj has until midnight to file its response to the former president's bid for a special master to oversee the fbi's review of materials seized at mar-a-lago. one thing we already know, whatever is being said cannot be said in 20 pages or less. details now from cnn's sarah murray who joins us now. what do we expect to be in this filing? >> reporter: we're still waiting around for it.
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normally these filings are about 20 pages. the justice department made clear they want more room, they want up to 40 pages to address some of what they said were the legal and factual issues that were in the trump team's filings. so essentially, they are looking for more runway in order to set the record straight. you know, one of the points of the trump filings is they are making the argument that the former president was very cooperative, essentially this was an unnecessary move by the justice department. obviously, as we sort of have seen how these steps played out, we have learned that the president, former president wasn't exactly cooperative. we would expect that is one of the things that the justice department is going to address this their filing. again, as we said, we are waiting to see this. even after we get through all of this tonight, we still won't have an answer to the question, will there be a special master in this case? there will be a hearing thursday, john. >> we also learned today, sarah, the former president has added a new attorney to his legal team, someone who was the solicitor
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general of florida at one point. what more can you tell us about this hire and what it means for the president's legal strategy. >> reporter: this is a lawyer now joining the trump legal team. we expect him to represent the former president in court on thursday. he is the former florida solicitor general, someone who has argued cases before the supreme court. he worked with florida governor ron desantis on his transition, and he's been working for a decade plus at a law firm, although he's left that firm. but this is someone who has a good reputation, seen as a respected lawyer, who knows the florida courts, which is very important, because that is where this legal battle is playing out. and frankly, it's someone who is coming into the game a little late. the trump team has been looking to a lawyer for weeks, so this is someone they are hoping will bring the kind of expertise and gravitas and knowledge of the local courts to the trump team in order to represent the former president. >> it is late, right?
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it's weeks after the search itself. and there were questions about why the team waited so long to file this request for the special master. is there a sense that this new attorney will be able to bring some order to it all? >> reporter: yeah. there's been a lot of unease among donald trump's own allies. this was being considered a pr problem. we have seen the former president out there, posting on social media. he's essentially been complaining and sharing what he wants to happen. but they weren't sharing a lot of that in court. they were just sharing it on social media. that's not how these things work. if you want a special master and take issue with how the justice department is conducting itself, you go before a judge and put that in the record. it is late in the game around we have seen the justice department say we've already begun looking through this stuff. so there is a hope from the trump team they can play a little bit of catchup. i think it's a little bit of a sigh of relief around the former president that he's able to
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bring in a lawyer who, again, is familiar with these courts and familiar with how this system works. >> sarah murray, you have a long night ahead of you. grab a snack. thank you so much for being with us. we want to bring in john dean, who served as white house council in the nixon administration during watergate. and a former fbi senior intelligence adviser, phil mudd. john, i want to start with you. what are you looking for in this justice department filing, especially since they asked for 40 pages instead of the 20 they were granted. it seems like they have something they want to say. >> well, they made it very clear in the motion to the court requesting the additional space that they felt that they had to address the facts that were not properly laid out in the trump brief, and the law was not properly laid out. and that certainly is true. so i can understand why they wanted to go after that. i think what they're going to do is put together a very
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compelling knockdown of some of the cooperation claims that trump has made by laying out the scenario as it unfolded, and they can do that now with what they could do only under seal for this special master -- i mean, excuse me, for the magistrate judge to get the probable cause. they can now do that in lay language, and broadly explain why they had to do what they did. i think the other thing they want to do is knock down the idea that there is an executive privilege here. there is none under the law. it is a fantasy that trump doesn't seem to understand that you can't invoke executive privilege against the executive. and that's what he's trying to do here. biden has the final word. trump is no longer president, and they're going to straighten the law out on that. >> whatever it, is it will be the most we've heard from doj since the search itself. everything that's been released
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to this point was in advance of the search, the search warrant, the affidavit, things prepared before. this is a chance now to respond to what's been in public. phil, there's this government review process going on right now of the documents that were seized at mar-a-lago. one by the fbi that began in may, the other by the office of national intelligence. what do each of these reviews determine and how could they affect the investigation? >> i think there's two pieces of this. i can talk to you about what they're determining, but this is a political process, not a national security or intelligence process. the fbi is looking at a legal case. that case involves whether somebody had information that was inappropriate to keep. that's a legal question, obviously. the cia and the director of national intelligence, the national security agency, are looking at a separate question. not the law, but what information was held at mar-a-lago, how sensitive was that information, and how costly would it be for that information to be revealed? to cut to the chashgs i think most of that is irrelevant.
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the question is what the former president will do with this. i think both sides win. the democrats are going to say after the damage assessment that the information the former president held was hugely sensitive and would have been hugely costly had it been revealed. and the republicans are going to say there's no evidence that any of this was ever revealed. so therefore, why were you in such a rush to go to mar-a-lago? this ends up as a political story, n. >> so john, now that the former president has added an attorney to his legal team, what do you expect to see different in their legal strategy? perhaps more coherent? >> i don't know. he's got a reputation as a good lawyer. he's won some big cases in front of the u.s. supreme court and the florida court. what i couldn't find in looking at his background, that he had any understanding of national security law, and its kind of an
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esoteric body of law. i don't see him having any wash based experience to understand how the intelligence community operates. so i think that he's going to be learning at first, and trying to understand it. i don't know if he understands the concept of executive privilege, which is pretty -- you know, it's not really comprehensible to most non-washington lawyers at first. then they get it. so i think he's got a learning curve, but i think he's a good lawyer. >> phil, i want to ask you finally, we heard joe biden tonight speaking out strongly against the attempts of violence against the fbi, which we have already seen one that was almost deadly. and then the comments that have been made about the fbi and on top of that, senator graham's comments that he thinks there will be violence in the street it is the former president sin dieted. first off, what do you think of his comments, and how do you think the fbi is reacting behind the scenes? >> let me hesitate a moment,
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john. my mom is not with us. she would have washed my mouth out with soap. lindsey graham is a good guy, and in the green room i've spent a lot of time with him. but in my world, let me cut to the chase. people who want to commit an act of violence don't need to be told to commit an act of violence. they need to be told that their anger is validated and that their anger is appropriate. senator graham validated people who believe that violence against a system is appropriate. he's going to apologize, he's going to say that nobody ever told anybody, including him, to commit an act of violence. but i followed extremism for 35 years. an 18-year-old, a 0-year-old, a 30-year-old is going to look to him and say he just told me that it's appropriate to be angry about mar-a-lago and i will do something. my mom would say, wash his mouth out with soap. he's not a bad man. that's a horrible mistake. never do it again. >> thank you, phil mudd to you,
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and your mom. john dean, as always, thanks to you, as well. next, what political professionals have to say about this moment, including the former president's recent online outburst against the fbi and justice department. and later, it is rare to be able to say this about anyone, we'll remember someone who literally changed the world. mikhail gorbachev, the last leader of the soviet union. and only 24-hour steroid free spray. while other allergy sprays take hours astepro starts working in 30 minunutes. soso you can... astepro and go. the unknown is not empty. it's a storm that crashes, and consumes, replacing thought with worry. but one thing can calm uncertainty. an answer. uncovered through exploration, teamwork, and innovation. an answer that leads to even more answers. mayo clinic.
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and charlie dent, a former pennsylvania republican congressman. congressman dent, this trump tirade on truth social, going after the fbi, talking about rerunning the election. this is not what we're hearing a lot of republicans would like to be focused on. is he draining the energy? how much of a problem is this for republicans heading into the midterms? >> well, john, this is an enormous problem for republicans. they want donald trump to simply shut up and go into hiding between now and the midterm. they want the midterm to be about joe biden and the democrats. they want it to be about inflation and crime and border security. so to the extent that donald trump is making noise about the 2020 election, calling for a redo of the 2020 election, intervening in primaries and helping to nominate candidates who are unfit or too extreme, he's doing enormous damage, that
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this likely, you want it to be a referendum on the democrats, not a choice between the democrats and donald trump, who is probably more unpopular than joe biden at this point. this is an enormous problem. and there's no controlling donald trump. he will not go into hiding. he will continue to do what he does. he just simply seems to be, you know, unhinged and obsessed with 2020. >> so bakari, what about the democrats, what do they do about this? is this why we heard joe biden give the speech he did today where he talks about the attacks on the fbi, he seemed to refer to lindsey graham. is this why he's giving the speech thursday night about the soul of the nation in >> i think that democrats have to show a contrast and that we're fighting, which he has been doing very well coming off some legislative victories, including the "inflation reduction act." and donald trump is making it quite easy. this suspect a message about the future of a republican vision
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versus what joe biden will give you the next two years or the next four years. this is a relitigation of donald trump versus joe biden. democrats feel extremely confident that we win that battle every chance we get. the problem that republicans have, and i want to be clear in the way we articulate it, each senators like lindsey graham, just completely trip and fall over themselves, they want maga without donald trump. and that's fundamentally impossible. they want all of those individuals who embrace election denying, who embrace bigotry, to come out to the polls, without donald trump. and they have not figured out how to slice that yet. so many times they tie themselves into pretzels, trying to get voters and end up looking stupid. >> what about that, charlie, can republicans have maga, can they have the political benefits of donald trump without him? and i ask that, because conservative commentators,
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including ben shapiro, ann colter are starting to split from trump and say we have to do this without him. >> i think bakari made a fair point. we talk too much about donald trump and not enough about trumpism and what does that mean? i happen to be in a school that trumpism is a long-term problem for the republican party, the isolationism, the nihilism. the unilateralism. all sorts of things that are problematic with the embrace of aut autocrats, the trade policies. i can go on and on about those policies. i think republicans need to come to grips with this, that some of the things they say they like about trump, they would have gotten from any republican president. it's these other things that will limit the growth of the republican party going forward. so yeah, you can get rid of trump, but we have to have this debate about trumpism and see if that's a viable, sustainable
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path forward for the party for years to come. >> bakari, what do you think in general of joe biden's law and order speech, giving a speech where he talks about democratic support of the police and the fbi, is that something you expect we'll hear more in the next ten weeks? >> yeah, i mean, i'm torn, because i believe that it's the right politics of the moment. not twitter politics, but the right politics of voters throughout the country, because crime is affecting all of our communities. we know that people want the streets to be cleaned and we want a wholistic approach to the way that we reform our criminal justice system in the country. where i differ from the president, i believe his view is a bit antiquated and outdated. we're not putting 100,000 more cops on the street. what we want to see are after-school programs. what we want to see are free and reduced lunch programs expanded and early childhood education. what we want to see is people
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with jobs. we want to build the community up and do these things that are crime prevention within our communities that don't simply mean we're going to overpolice communities, many of which are black and brown. so it's a very difficult nuanced argument, but i'm glad joe biden is at least on the forefront saying that he supports something. the antithesis to that is a republican party who say, like marsha blackburn, we support the blue. then you have people talking about defund the fbi. the republican party simply is confused while at least we're having some articulate debates about the way that we police our communities in this country. >> our thanks to both of you. next, what mikhail gorbachev's role is in ushering out the soviet union, what it meant to the world and what his passing says tonight.
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to anyone not alive at the peak of the cold war, it's almost unimaginable how different mikhail gorbachev was from anyone else who managed to rise to the top of the old soviet yunion. one after another, a parade of grim, gray, and off dying old man who could terrify the world because they had absolute control over the country, over
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the kgb, half of europe, including half of germany, and a nuclear arsenal. mikhail gorbachev, who died today at age 91, was still a soviet leader, but a very different when he arrived on the scene. the world noticed. as he instituted reforms at home, the soviet union took a step back from the cold war. he was the ussr's final leader. he leaves at a moment when it and the early hopes for it are all but buried. perspective now from steve hall, former chief of russia operations at the cia and jill courtry. jill, set the stage for us, how do you quantify the influence of someone like mikhail gorbachev who didn't just change the course of a country but the course of the world. >> absolutely. i think you have to look at it
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from both of those perspectives. you know, internally in russia, and i was there at the time, and i remember that very well. this feeling of, you know, freedom and hope that people had. and it was really like breathing free that people had that long period of more than 70 years of communism. and then enter nationally, gorbachev is the person who decided to take the leap and begin to build down, get rid of nuclear weapons, which really changed the world. unfortunately, we're kind of back to the same problem now. but it did change the world. and i think both of those, plus the fact that he was not only a leader, but he was personally a very charismatic person who pulled together west and east in an incredible way. >> he was just different than anything that at that time the soviet union or the world had seen before from their leaders.
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steve, you served in moscow just after the collapse of the soviet union. what was the sentiment toward gorbachev in those days, in the early days of post-soviet russia? >> it's really interesting, john. i think as much as the west as a tendency to think positively of gorbachev for the most part, the great irony is most russians think very poorly of him, to include vladamir putin. when you look at the record of perhaps reform is too strong of a word, i don't know, but it's worth asking why. when you look at gorbachev, he had no choice. the soviet union was coming apart. he knew something had to change. if you asked gorbachev, do you want to become a liberal democracy, the answer would be no. he wanted to maintain the soviet union, just make it look different. if he had the opportunity to leave the soviet union as it was and not have to worry about the
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social problems, he would have done so. if you ask the baltic states how it went in the early '90s, he rolled tanks in there, and there were deaths of protestors under gorbachev's rule. so there is this mixed legacy with regard to gorbachev and historians will talk about it for a long time. >> in the west, he was perceived as someone who was necessary. maybe not just necessary, but central to many of the changes that ended up happening in a way allowing for not intervening when eastern european countries tried to demockck atize. that would have been different. >> absolutely. and some people have said, you know, he did not do tiananmen square. and he had a choice. i personally think that, you know, his personal decision really did change history.
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that there could have been somebody like the people i remember covering every month somebody was dying who was a leader of the soviet union. and here comes vigorous gorbachev, and his personality, his view of the world did change it. i don't think we can make a saint out of him. steve was mentioning things. there's chernobyl, too. that was really mishandled in the beginning by gorbachev. but overall, i think you would have to say, and i've been looking at some of the responses coming out of russia right now. people who are more western, of course, are saying they're very sorry. there was a lot of hope from that period. the communists and people who are nationalists are saying traitor, you know, this is a guy who created the world that we're fighting in ukraine right now. and then others, you know, bring up more moderated views about it. but i think even the liberals, some liberals think he didn't go
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far enough. so not only americans but russians didn't always agree. >> and steve, very quickly. vladamir putin is trying to reverse so much of what gorbachev was involved in doing. >> yeah. it's amazing. you know, putin obviously just wants empire, he wants there to be a great russia. i'm not sure that gorbachev would disagree that much, but there would be a disagreement between the method ols between the two men. >> under gorbachev, the republics broke off and vladamir putin is in some ways trying to claw them back, piece by piece. steve, jill, it is history, and it's remarkable just to think about how quickly things changed with him and how long ago it was now. thanks to both of you. as mississippi's capital city jackson battles flooding, it's causing a new problem, a lack of water for the city's nearly 200,000 residents. we have a live report from the flood zone, next. ly make roger happy.
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brush their teeth. people are being forced to line up as the state and national guard distribute water to their residents and there are problems there, as well. with me from jackson, ryan young. this is such a bad situation. what is the latest? >> reporter: john, it almost feels like we're in a hurricane aftermath, when you see people in line for hours. in fact, at one distribution site, people were waiting for three hours in the heat. 91 degrees, waiting for water. when they got to the front, they were only getting one container in terms of 24 individual water bottles to lead with. we talked to one woman exacerbated by this. she said how long is this going to last me? we watch one older senior citizen fall out at the site because it was so hot. so you understand the pain here when it comes to everything that's going on. they want answers, but right now no one has a clear cut answer for when the water is going to get turned back on. >> this has been a slow motion
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disaster. yes, there's weather issues they're having right now, but they have known that their water system is antiquated and in serious trouble. >> reporter: john, that is an excellent point. you think about this, when we get a hurricane or tornado warning, you only have seconds to act. they have known about this for years. we were here in march at someone's house when they were collecting rain water to flush their toilets. we talked to so many people today who were frustrated about the idea now when they turn the tap on, not only do they trust the water, sometimes they don't even get water. one family said they were washing their kids in the brown water, because they said as long as they kept it from the neck down it would be okay. that's something you never expect in an american city, the idea that water and electlelect wouldn't be hand in hand. take a listen to a resident that waited so long to pass out water and seeing the frustration of fellow residents. >> we're very angry at our state
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government and their failure to come in and assist the city of jackson with this infrastructure water crisis. the extreme racist politics that have been played, that have impacted over 175,000 residents here in the city of jackson, you know, we can no longer stand for the ignorance to continue here in the state of mississippi. >> reporter: john, when you think about this, and we talk about infrastructure in this country, the roads here are not great. now you're dealing with a water issue. this is the capital city. at some point, you think they would get together and have a conversation about this. they have duelling press conferences. you have the mayor on one side, the governor on the other side, and the residents are stuck in the middle. they want answers, and we were even told at the statehouse, there was no water there, as well. if you're a resident and you try to brush your teeth, you have to do that with bottled water. at the end of the day here, we have no clue for when this will get fixed.
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>> ryan young, we're glad you're there. coming up, as joe biden calls for more action against gun violence, small devices like these are turning ordinary hand guns into weapons of war in just seconds. cnn's drew griffin has the details next. ♪ it wasn't me by shaggy ♪ you're never responsible for unauthorized purchases on your disco. welcome to thursday night football, only on prime video. play for the guy beside you! play for this stadium! let's go, baby! thursday night is now the prime night of football. deep downfield! got it! touchdown!
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during joe biden's speech in pennsylvania this afternoon, he criticized the nra and republicans who oppose gun safety legislation that he signed into law, and renewed his call for an assault weapons ban. >> you know, we're living in a country awash with weapons of war. weapons that weren't designed to hunt, they were designed to take on an enemy. i'm determined to ban assault weapon in this country, determined. i did it once before. and i'll do it again. >> that is his message as he unveiled his safe america plan today, which he says will reduce gun violence and support police. one trend is machine gun conversion devices.
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in a new cnn exclusive, drew griffin looks into how dangerous they can be. this is his report. >> reporter: they are the size of a lego, come in colors of the rainbow, and in seconds, can turn america's most popular hand gun from firing like this. to this. >> whoa. >> reporter: this is the gun range of the bureau of alcohol, tobacco and firearms and explosives, where an agent shows how a tiny device can turn almost into device into a machine gun. >> holy moly. >> reporter: this is houston, where a team of police officers tried to serve a warrant, body cameras on. >> step out, police. >> reporter: 30 years experience conducting 2500 previous major offender arrests couldn't help a
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cop named bill jeffrey. >> dion, it's houston police. let's do -- [ gunfire ] >> your father didn't stand a chance. >> no. he was no, he was completely blind sided and there was nothing anyone could have done to change the outcome. everything was done the way it was supposed to, but this guy ambushed them. >> reporter: what the officers couldn't see was the multiconvicted felon hiding in a dark apartment holding a pistol that was turned into a weapon of war. in seconds he fired 30 rounds, officer jeffrey died, a police sergeant also hit crawled for safe it i anty and survived. >> are you good? >> i'm hit. >> what was your reaction when you found out what this criminal had in his hands? >> disgust, disbelief, anger.
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we do not live in a war zone. there is no need for us to have these automatic weapons on the streets of houston, anywhere in the united states. >> but there is demand, cheap illegal pieces first imported from china were being sold easily over the internet when atf and customs cracked down, smuggling began across the southern border. now thanks to cheap 3d printers like this and how to demonstrations on youtube making machine guns is a simple do it yourself project says earl griffith of atf. >> one of the guys says it's easy, watch this youtube. watched youtube, and in a matter of 15 minutes i was able to do it myself the first time. >> he's not kidding. we searched youtube and found this. a how-to demonstration. >> once you get it 3d printed. >> that was still up on youtube's platform. >> that is how you install and
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remove a glock. >> reporter: and getting hundreds of thousands of views even though bot ta binge, baa ta boom the guy was arrested months earlier charged with possessing, making and transferring machine guns. he's pleaded not guilty. youtube took the videos down right after we asked about them. call them auto seres, switches, whatever, they are everywhere and spreading. the atf sees 1,500 machine gun conversion devices last year. that is five times as many as the year before. griffith says police departments across the country have confiscated modified machine guns but many don't even know it. >> a lot of them have never seen some of these devices like laying here, and when we tell them about it, they go back into their evidence vault, and they look and check and they find this stuff. >> reporter: more and more this stuff is being found in the slaughter it leaves in its wake. this january three more houston officers were fired upon, all
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three wounded when a career criminal opened fire with a machine gun style pistol. when they arrested him, they found more machine gun parts and 3d printers. in sacramento this april, a massacre on the city's downtown streets. six dead, a dozen injured, one of the guns in the shootout according to police had an auto sere or switch to make it fully automatic. >> all of these in the last 24 hours. >> nine rounds, 18 rounds, 27 rounds. >> john, that's like tuesday. tuesday in america we're having this? >> you should come here on the weekend. >> this is shot spotter. it locates gunfire for police by listening to a network of microphones across american cities, and more and more those microphones are picking up automatic fire. >> the rate of fire, the number of rounds being fired in only a few seconds is very serious. innocent bystanders are being hit by rounds that weren't
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intended for them. >> reporter: since 2019, the incidence of automatic gunfire picked up by shot spotter have increased from roughly 400 to 5,600 just last year. just spend a few moments at calen parker's monitoring station and you can hear the havoc. >> all of these ones i'm showing you here are full automatic incidents starting from three rounds going all the way up to 30 rounds. >> 30 rounds? >> 30 rounds here in baltimore, maryland. >> this was sometime on tuesday and wednesday? >> yes, sir, this was 4:00 p.m. yesterday. >> when you sit here and listen to this and realize what's going on on the streets, what are you thinking? >> you don't believe it until you hear it, and it's just sad. unfortunately with a lot of these shootings there was a victim behind these. >> reporter: in fact, those sounds you heard from baltimore were bullets hitting two people including a 14-year-old boy. back in texas, lacy jeffrey is
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trying to do something in her father's memory. >> so we are just trying to get lawmakers to look into this and just change ten words to make it to where these switches fall under a felony offense. >> reporter: she wants texas to treat possession of these modified weapons like the federal government does, as a felony. >> what's the reception been? >> nothing. >> reporter: she hasn't heard back from a single lawmaker. >> why do you think that is? >> i think that especially in texas with the second amendment people are scared to touch upon it. i don't understand why this isn't important enough. we have lost so many officers, so many civilians are even being caught in the cross fire. how many people have to be affected by these before you realize that a change needs to happen? >> quite a report, and drew griffin joins us now. what's driving the surge in demand for weapons like these?
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>> reporter: you know, i guess you'd have to say it's popularity. it started with gangs and drugs and now people just like having these weapons that can shoot 30 rounds in just mere seconds. the problem is these are not toys, obviously. you can't control these guns and on the streets they can just turn into blood baths so quickly. >> as i said, terrific report, drew griffin, thank you so much. we'll be right back. with directv i can get live tv and on demand together: football, housewives, football, housewives... whoops. i just want to talk! get the best of ve tv and on demand. call 1-800-directv i typed in grandma's name and birth year... and there she was, working at the five and dime. my dad's been wondering about his childhood address
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u.s. facing floods as we showed you earlier, take a look at pakistan where one-third of that country is under water. the government now says at least 1,100 people have been killed. across that country, millions have been forced from their homes. the cause, what they're calling a monster monsoon season, which still has a month left. for more information on what you can do to help, go to cnn.com/impact. the news continues, let's hand it over to victor blackwell and "cnn tonight". >> thank you, i'm victor blackwell. this is "cnn tonight." we are waiting for the justice department's rebuttal to trump's legal team on the mar-a-lago documents, and we will talk about that later because at this same moment, more than 150,000 people are waiting for water in a major american city, a state capital, jackson, mississippi. tonight families there cannot be sure their toilets will flush, that there's enough water to brush their teeth, to show, even send their kids to school. instead, they spent the day in lines for hours to get one
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