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of cc-tv monitoring at that power station. and it visits at least once a year for physical inspections. there's hope that perhaps the agency might be able to get something similar up and running in zaporizhzhia. pamela? >> sam, thank you. i'm panmela brown in "the situation room." "erin burnett outfront" starts right now. "outfront" next, trump's response. the former president has less than one hour to submit his response to the doj's blistering court filing, a filing that reveals trump and his advisers repeatedly failed to turn over highly classified documents. and the picture that's worth a thousand words. we break down that stunning photograph of classified material seized from trump's home, and we speak to an expert on the mar-a-lago property about where those documents were found. plus, tens of thousands of migrants allowed in the united
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states because of a little known exception the government has been making. let's go "outfront." good evening, everyone. i'm poppy harlow in for erin burnett. "outfront" tonight, team trump's response. trump's legal team up against the clock to respond to that bombshell 54-page filing by the justice department. we should be getting that response at any moment now. it is due in less than an hour and the filing, which is expected to be no more than ten pages or less, could give us the first look at the strategy from trump's new legal counsel. that is florida's former solicitor general. for the first time, we're getting crucial insight into trump's defense against damning new evidence from the doj, which, according to the agency's new filing, investigators have "evidence that government records were likely concealed and removed in the storage room and efforts were likely taken to obstruct the government's investigation." the doj detailing in this filing
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the depth and the breadth of what trump still had in his possession. the fbi seized another 33 boxes that included 100 classified documents. now, remember, as our kaitlan collins reports, this was after two months after trump's attorney signed that june 3rd letter, claiming they had turned over everything. the doj was requesting. but we now know that was not accurate, and the department of justice publicing this picture to prove it. what you are looking at there is a number of files labeled "top secret" with bright red or yellow cover sheets spread out over trump's carpet. those files were found inside of trump's office. we'll have much more on all of this coming up. but let's begin with evan perez who is in washington. so this thing is due, evan, in 58 minutes. so we could likely get it in a
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minute. what are we expecting? >> reporter: we're expecting the former president's legal team to look past what the justice department alleged in their 36-page filing last night. this is kind of what they've been doing all along, poppy. they essentially just talk past what the justice department is saying, and we expect, according to pamela brown, who talked to people in that world, they are going to focus on the presidential record act. they say the law doesn't really apply. it has no teeth essentially, because donald trump was president at the time, you know, before he moved back to mar-a-lago. and they're also going to say that, you know, there are some concerns about fourth amendment search and seizure that some kind of fourth amendment violation that happened as a result of this -- this search by the fbi. what it doesn't -- we don't expect that they're going to address very much is the bombshell really that is in the -- in the court filing by the justice department, which
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really goes into depth about the possible obstruction that was going on with the trump team, going from back in may, when they were served a subpoena, and the subpoena said you need to turn over all documents that have classification markings. you saw the picture. those are documents that clearly have classification markings, and there's no explanation as to why those documents remained at mar-a-lago in a storage room or in the president's desk, former president's desk. you know, in his hotel there months after the justice department served the subpoena and said they needed to turn it over. those are the things we expect that, you know, the judge is going to have to consider tomorrow. now, look, in the end, it is quite possible, and i can see it very possible that this judge says it is possible to appoint a special master, a third party to oversee what the fbi has been doing, because it's not that much of an impediment. we're talking about a couple
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hundred pages of documents. you can do that fairly quickly. she's already inclined to do that. so i can see that being the result of tomorrow's hearing, poppy. >> we'll see what happens. bring us that filing as soon as you get it, evan. thank you very much. "outfront" now, robert likt, former general counsel for the director of national intelligence. and stephanie grisham, former trump white house press secretary. and joining us is kaitlan collins who covered four years of the trump white house. thank you all. we're waiting for this filing. bob, we begin with based on the filing from the justice department that came late, late last night, early this morning, sit clear to you that the former president committed a crime? >> well, i think that we have very strong evidence that there was classified information that was being improperly retained. we have very strong evidence that there is -- there were violations of the federal
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records act. the president's filings to date have addressed those. what they haven't said anything about is obstruction. it's a much easier charge to prove in this case. the evidence is very straightforward, the national archives asked for documents. they finally, after some months, got some documents. the government served a subpoena for additional documents. they were told these are all the documents there are. and then they executed a search warrant, and there was a whole bunch of additional classified documents that should have been turned over earlier, including apparently documents from president trump's personal office. so i think that's a very difficult charge to defend against. >> right. so much of it comes down to intent and frame of mind. stephanie, let's talk about the photo. let me pull it up again. this is the photo included at the end of the doj filing. some of the crlassified documens displayed that, they wanted to show how highly classified some
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of this material was that remained at mar-a-lago for months beyond by the way trump team's response to the subpoena. and trump is twisting this. here's the latest -- there seems to be confusion as to the picture where documents were sloppily thrown on the floor and released photographly for the world to see, as if that's what the fbi found when they broke into my home. wrong. he said they took them out of cartons and spread them around on the carpet, making it look like a big find for them. they dropped them. very deceiving. that's not what happened. the fbi didn't try to make it look like they found them this way. this is how they're displaying what was taken out of those boxes in the search that was so highly classified. what do you make of the way the president is responding to this? >> you know, i knew immediately when that picture came out that would be something he would not like. he's very visual.
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he's obviously in tv and entertainment. so i knew that would be something that would really get to him. it's my understanding that it's standard operating procedure for law enforcement to take photos like that. hence, they had the number labeling it with the ruler. i think it was interesting. he said that they were taken out of cartons. so he admitted then that they had them. so i guess they're not planted at that point. i thought it was interesting that he said for the whole world to see. but i thought if they were declassified, why would that matter? again, if they are just trying to find anything they can to see if it will stick to the wall, i think the photo, if i had to predict, the photo would be part of their response, that this is going to be something they're going to blame the doj of making this a pr move. that wasn't needed to be put out there. >> kaitlan, what is your reporting? it's clear that this photo has gotten under trump's skin. what is your reporting why he's posted on this multiple times a day?
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>> it's not trump but his legal team. they viewed it as unnecessary, for the justice department to include this, in this ex-ten s -- extensive filing last night because they know how damaging a photo can be. the case they're making in court about why they don't think he needs a special master is the same regardless of a photo being included. they added this photo on at the end for a reason. trump is very offvisual person,t so are most people. to see that photo, to see those markings is straightforward and clear. so i think that will be referenced in their filing, because i'm told the former president's team is very unhappy with the fact that it was included in there. they viewed it as a cheap shot based on what i was told. but also i think looking at that, their argument has been he
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declassified what he had there. you don't see anything that says declassified on the cover sheets of these documents. >> that's a great point. i'll remind everyone, right after the search, it was trump who called for complete transparency from the justice department, release the full, unredacted affidavit. so this is some light into some of what they did find. bob, they will file the next 50 minutes their response to the doj filing. what do they need to do, what does team trump need to do to convince this judge to appoint a special master? >> well, the government made some very powerful legal arguments that there's no basis for appointing a special master in this case. that these aren't trump's documents to begin with, but documents that belong to the government. that they've already been reviewed and all that remains is for the court to make a determination on the basis of privilege so that a special master couldn't accomplish anything. and that, in fact, the few legal
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arguments that the trump legal team made in their initial filing in their supplement was totally inaccurate interpretations of prior precedent. i think the trump legal team is going to have to find some way to advance plausible legal arguments that support their position. it will be interesting to see how they do. >> stephanie, the deadline, less than an hour away. what does it say to you that trump's legal team is waiting to the last minute to file here? i should say doj did the same by the way. >> well, yes, but doj also did a very, very detailed 40-page document. i think that they have a lot of catching up to do, especially if he's got a new attorney. that, like i just said, was a very detailed and long thing that the doj filed. so i imagine that they're scrambling right now. for sure, trump is insisting on seeing everything. for sure things are going back and forth and trump is asking
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things be put in there how he's the leader of the republican party and he's the victim, et cetera, et cetera. i imagine it will be at the very last moment. >> kaitlan, just to put a button on it. one could argue that trump brought this on himself. we're only seeing this filing from doj and this photo because trump sued for a special master. he demanded that more information be public. i wonder if this subsequently is making his inner circle recalculate it all. >> i think that's a fair point. they did wait two weeks to ask for the special master, so the doj was trying to undercut that argument by saying we've already done what this third party attorney would do. what's also remarkable, and a confidence i've had with people who worked for trump, is how this has gone from a pretty straightforward case of the national archives trying to back materials from trump, and now has morphed into this
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potential case where the justice department said in that filing last night, they are looking at whether or not there is potential obstruction by trump or those around him. and they made that very clear and drove that point home. it's not just the case of this filing and photo, it's the entire situation overall, going from trying to get documents back to what the doj is looking into. >> thank you for that reporting, kate i kaitlan. . "outfront" next, we're standing by from that response from trump's team dropping any moment. but we'll take a closer look at that picture you see of classified materials taken from mar-a-lago and talk to an expert, where were those documents found and how many had access to them? and trump's attorney facing growing questions after cnn learned she signed a letter in june, claiming all the classified documenting had been returned. could she be in legal trouble?
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hidden in these documents trump was olding on to at mar-a-lago. the doj release thing photograph saying there is abongoing review of the national security risks that improper storage of these materials may have caused. "outfront" now, a cnn contributor who writes for "wire" magazine. i want people to understand what these are. most people don't know what these classifications mean. you say the strangest document in this photo is the orange bordered cover page at the forefront labeled secret/sci. you talked to senior officials in the intelligence community who have never seen a document with a label like this. how rare does that mean this classification is? >> so sci is a special sensitive compartmentalized information. what that means is that comes from a specific source or a specific program. it's a special clearance within secret or top secret.
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now, what makes this odd and unique is that you see very few programs that are sci but only at the secret level. and so what you really -- there are just a couple of different types of classified information that this would normally be considered. of course, we don't know what this particular document could be. but two major categories that would be classified at this level are basically non-national security foreign gossip, for instance. diplomatic details about foreign officials, their financial dealings, you know, sources that have picked up who was having an affair with whom. you know, things that would not be necessarily of grave danger to the united states if they were disclosed. but things that would cause serious damage.
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serious damage being the test for secret level information. the other category would be information that comes from singles intelligence of an ally. when we share information back and forth between and among our allies that comes from signals intelligence. wiretaps, the nsa, or the equivalent of nsas in other countries, the uk's gcaq for instance. that is often done at the secret sci level. so this sort of seems to me that it's likely to be consistent with what we know donald trump's proclivity for collecting gossip and, you know, potential compromising details of the lives of foreign officials. >> wow. okay. also on this document, it specifically says, hcs and tk. what does that indicate? >> yeah.
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so those are two specific indicators of classified information, both at the top secret level. again, sci, sensitive compartmentalized information. hcs is the most sensitive information that the u.s. gathers. it's human controlled sources. these are people whose lives, careers, families, depend on the fact that they are sharing information with the united states remains secret. so this is incredibly sensitive information. tk, another classifiyied indicar that refers to talent key hole, the code name for the nation's satellite reconnaissance systems. we know that donald trump is uniquely interested in that, because the notorious example previous to this of him tweeting out classified information was when, as president, which was his right to do in this case
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when he was president, he tweeted out a photo of a satellite reconnaissance photo of an iranian military site, which was one of the biggest revelations of classified information that the u.s. has seen in decades. >> garrett, i just learned so much from you in those two minutes. i'm sure the audience did, as well. thank you very much for explaining to us what those markings mean. now i want to go to sarah blakesky for the "miami herald," an expert on the mar-a-lago property and author of "the grifter's club, trump, mar-a-lago and the selling of the presidency." thank you for being here on a night like tonight. when we see this photo of what was found there in mar-a-lago, you've been there so many times, you know the resort well. can you give us an idea of where these documents were found when you talk about that expansive property? >> sure. so as you pointed out, this is an expansive property. it's huge. there are about 58 guest rooms.
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and we don't know yet exactly where that photo was taken. we do have some contextual clues that. carpet is used throughout the main building. but we understand that these documents that were recovered in early august, those were stored in two places, in the former president's office, which we have learned is on top of the grand ballroom, it's a separate structure off of the main structure. and also in a storage room. and storage rooms at mar-a-lago tend to be in the basement of the main area. so there's a members only club. this would be basically right below the area that members would use to walk from the main entrance to their dining tables. if you just went down a floor from there, you would be in an area full of storage rooms. and that, we believe, is the
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area where that storage room exists. >> what's so important to add to this k is the fact that we know that mar-a-lago has had multiple security breaches, even during the trump presidency. people will remember in 2019 this chinese businesswoman was arrested while on the property, she had a signal detector. another chinese national was accused of trespassing later that year. in 2017, trump was on the club's patio when a -- when north korea launched that missile towards japan and aides were seen shining flashlights on documents. those are just a few things that have happened in the past few years during trump's presidency. how easy would it be for people on that property to access these areas, the storage rooms? >> so this property is incredibly porous. as you brought up, those are a number of the security breaches, but not the only ones.
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at one point, there was a college student who, on a whim, decided to see if he could get past presidential security. and he did. he walked onto the property, walked around the grounds for a while. they caught him eventually. he didn't mean any harm, but that's the kind of thing that can happen at mar-a-lago. it's an incredibly difficult property to secure. that was noted by the secret service. and so really, you're talking about a club that, from november to may, has about 500 members that have the right to access large parts of this property. they can stay in the guest rooms, they go to dinner. there are also dozens of staffers, over a hundred at least, dozens come in on temporary work visas each season from november to may. and so really, those staffers are the ones that would have the most access. of course, you can wander around, members can wander around. but the staffers might be
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accessing the storage areas for their jobs. china, silverware, things are stored down there. maybe not in the same room, but certainly in that area. >> thank you so much, sarah, for helping us understand it much better. "outfront" next, we continue to stand by for trump's attorney's response to the bombshell filing from the justice department. this as there are questions about trump's lawyers. also, former president obama slamming republicans accusing them of empowering political minorities to help them cling to power. s. uhh.h... here, i'll take that! yay!!! ensure max protein, with 30 grams of protein, 1 gram of susugar enter powered by protein challenge for a chance to win big! joe biden and democrats in congress just passed a law to lower the cost of medicine. the inflation reduction act
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mar-a-lago, that the justice department had demanded in that subpoena. which this photo from the august search of mar-a-lago strongly indicates is a false statement. bobb is far from the only lawyer in trump's world who has faced legal jeopardy. tom foreman is "outfront." >> reporter: as the fbi swept in and seized all those classified documents, trump attorney christina bobb, who is front and center defending her client. >> this raid was a shock to everybody. there are no crimes here. i think this is a lot to do about nothing. >> reporter: but well before the search, she signed another document insisting all classified material had already been turned over. the document "the new york times" said was crafted by evidence ran corcoran. neither has responded to cnn's request for comment. any members of trump's legal team, if they were involved in moving, hiding, or knew such papers were still in mar-a-lago,
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could be in a bind. >> they are being looked at potentially for obstructing the investigation. and they're in an impossible position. they either need to disavow our client, saying we were misled, or they're going to be considered complicit and have to face questions from the justice department. >> mr. president. >> reporter: the list of lawyers under scrutiny while acting on donald trump's behalf is growing. >> i know crimes. i can smell them. >> reporter: rudy giuliani is now a target of a georgia probe into whether the former president illegally tried to interfere with the 2020 election. attorney lynn wood is said to speak to the grand jury in that matter. he's a strong trump defender but said, i didn't do anything wrong. >> this is bigger than president trump. it is the very essence of our republican form of government, and it has to be done. >> reporter: john eastman, the alleged architect of the plan to overturn the resulting in congress, and jeffrey clark have
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both drawn the interest of federal investigators. >> president trump won by a landslide. we are going to prove it. >> reporter: sidney powell and a half dozen more pro trump lawyers were sanctioned for filing what a judge called frivolous lawsuits contesting the election. and michael cohen, unlike the others who all deny wrongdoing, he was actually charged with crimes, including campaign finance violations. he admitted it, lost his law license, and went to prison. >> my loyalty to mr. trump has cost me everything. >> reporter: to be clear, defending a client is legal, even if that client has committed a crime. indeed, it is an attorney's duty. but potentially helping a client commit a crime can quickly make a lawyer need a lawyer, too. poppy? >> that's exactly right. tom, thank you very much. "outfront" now, john dean, former nixon whiteout counsel. john, you know better than anyone what the rules are for
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lawyers when they sign documents like this. do you think trump's attorney, christina bobb, could be in legal jeopardy now? >> it simply appears that way. we know from that letter she signed the certification. she did rely on others. she reports in that certification and we don't know what amount of effort she put into it. but she's at high risk signing a document like that, if she's not put some effort into it. that's what can cause her jeopardy. >> as i mentioned, you were the white house counsel for president nixon. but your decision to not help nixon cover up his role in watergate played a huge role in taking him down. you publicly testified and cooperated with the investigation. of course, you thold nixon that
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there was a cancer growing on the presidency and it needed to be removed. what could you advise christina bobb to do? >> poppy, i taught a course before the pandemic hit all over the country to alert attorneys to what they should look for, because i did get across the law for a brief time and regretted it and tried internally to get my colleagues to do the right thing. so there were some 45 lawyers in watergate that got on the wrong side of the law. so i took that knowledge and travelled the country and tried to explain to others you can very easily slide across the line. particularly when you have a powerful client, a powerful figure, it is just not a great step to agree to do something that you later realize you shouldn't have done. now, i don't know if there have been violations of the law by the attorneys.
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it certainly appears they have jeopardy. if they didn't know before they have problems, they certainly know from reporting in the last several weeks that others are looking at this certainly think they do have problems. that means they should probably recuse themselves from the case, which is an unfortunate thing to do, because it sends signals, because they have a conflict. >> john dean, thank you very much for all of that insight and your experience certainly helps this evening on this particular matter. thank you very much. always good to have you. "outfront" next, we are standing by still for trump's legal team to respond to the justice department bombshell filing. the team has until 8:00 eastern tonight to do that. plus, former president obama not holding back. tonight, accusing republicans of using political minorities to help them cling to power. and thousands of migrants now arriving at the u.s. southern border every week. part of the reason, a little known exception the government has been making for people
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obtained by cnn. obama also said what we didn't anticipate is one of our two political parties would systemically empower minorities, to get more power and more seats and to do whatever it takes to hang onto power. the former president adding that democrats need to "be more vigilant than ever before, because the stakes have never before higher." "outfront" tonight, bekare sellers, former south carolina democratic state representative, and david irvin, former president trump campaign senior adviser. bakari, let me begin with you. this came out from former president obama, the message to help motivate wavering democrats. >> i have to agree with the 44th president of the united states. what he's talking about is the issue that's not very sexy, but is necessary to our democratic
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little d principles that we have in this country. the fact is gerrymandering and redirecting is the substance behind why we have the partisan divides we have in this country. yes, you have these political minorities, whether or not you're talking about the very, very outspoken maga wing of the republican party, or you're just simply talking about these j gerrymandered cul-de-sacs where you have individuals able to sway the political dialogue. that is destroying the fabric of our country. so yes, he was talking about something that most people don't talk about. i think ironically enough, david and i would come up with solutions to this, but nobody wants to have this conversation. and the 44th president was actually talking about this, urging democrats to be more involved and vigilant about our democracy that's eroding before our eyes. >> david, i'm going to let you and bakari solve that problem on the break. >> i happen to agree, i think it
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could be solved. political gerrymandering is largely to blame for this huge divisiveness. if you get a district that's d plus ten or r plus ten, there's no reason to compromise. you're cpunished if you do. there's a lot of blame to lay at the feet of a lot of parties. the republicans and the cbc and the chc, they cut these deals to keep their power. it's a dirty secret in american politics. >> yeah. and then you see positions scrubbed from websites after folks win in primaries and et cetera, et cetera. david, the white house called out republicans like congressman paul gosar, congresswoman margorie taylor greene, governor ron desantis. you've got governor desantis who
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called dr. fauci that little elf, saying someone should chuck him across the potomac. are these attacks from the white house changing any minds? >> listen, i think people should be called out if they say things inappropriate. you threaten somebody's physical being, and listen, it goes on on both sides of the aisle and i condemn it. people following senator sinema into the restroom and haranguing her goes too far. you should be chastised and there's no place with that kind of rhetoric in american politics for a civil debate. you'll never get to solution it is you're having these attacks. so they should be condemned on both sides of the aisle. we shouldn't have it clearly. and the biden administration coming out and saying so before the election is great, but i like to see him do it all year long and call out both sides,
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not just people on the right. >> bakari, republican candidates like blake masters in arizona who, you know, just scrubbed his website of any evidence of his past anti-abortion positions or some of his previous claims that the 2020 election was rigged, you axios is reporting that a repu republican, tim michaels a republican for governor, i wonder what does that tell you? >> there are a couple of things. one is, they think voters are stupid. that's first. second, it shows how out of touch the maga base in this country is with the majority of america. the maga base that nominated them or helped them get those nominations. blake masters and others, these
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individuals cater to the far right of their party, which is out of touch with the overwhelming majority of this country. they're trying to sprint back to the center as quickly as they can. the problem is, a couple of things. one, they're not talented enough. when yo look a lot of these republican candidates for the united states senate and gubernatorial candidates, they're just really not talented visd. that's first. second, you cannot run a race thinking that your voters are stupid. that is the race they're trying to run. either they're trying to hide or they think voters are stupid. neither of those are accurate. these extreme politics, whether or not it's on abortion or climate change, are not where most of the country is. you cannot win a general election like that, thank god. >> david, final thought? >> yeah, listen, i think bakari knows this well, he's run for office before. politicians say what they think they need to, to get elected.
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joe biden stood in pennsylvania and said we are for funding the police, not defunding the police. >> he was never for defunding the police -- >> poppy, i understand that, but i'm saying the democratic party, for a long period of time, it was a main plank of most democrats that came on this show and many others would say, defund the police. joe biden didn't say step forward and say i want to stop that. that's the wrong thing to do. >> he did, though. >> we've got to go. s >> show me the tape. >> i like that you can disagree without being disagreeable. we need more of that in this country. >> we agreed on the redirecting. >> go solve our problems in the break, and come back soon. thank you both very much. all right, "outfront" next, trump's legal team has ten minutes to respond to the justice department's filing. we'll bring it to you when we
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get it. and the government making an exception to a trump era immigration rule, and through word of mouth, it's now leading to a surge of migrants at the southern border. this is a story you'll see only first right here on "outfront." plus, for the first time in nearly a generation, there were no named tropical storms in august. that does not mean that america is in the clear yet.
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that's decision tech. only from fidelity. tonight, $12 million, that is how much texas governor greg abbott has spent on bussing thousands of migrants to new york and washington, d.c. another 100 migrants just arrived in washington today. rosa flores with a report you'll see first here on "out front" with more on the influx of migrants at the southern border. >> reporter: little franceion has been in pain for weeks. his dad has no money for doctors after the family fled haiti with nearly nothing six years ago. [ speaking non-english ] >> there's a lot of violence,
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earthquakes -- [ speaking non-english ] for your family, you left. >> si. >> reporter: they've been living in this shelter for about a month. pastor hector silva runs the shelter says in 25 years, he's never seen this many migrants, thousands arriving every week. he drives us to the second shelter he opened a few months ago and estimates about 12,800 migrants, mostly haitians, are currently waiting. he can house nearly 6,000. the rest are living on the streets. >> it's fairly difficult to stand at the gate and see the mom with the child and say, i'm sorry, i cannot help you. >> reporter: the question is, why? why are so many people flocking here, and why now?
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>> instagram? and for you? facebook? facebook? >> reporter: many say word has spread, including on social media, that migrants who come here can enter the u.s. legally if they wait their turn. silva says there is some truth to it. >> the good way. >> the legal way to do it. >> reporter: we checked. from may to july, at the six ports of entry, more than 28,000 title 42 exceptions for made, which allows migrants to go to these international bridges and seek asylum. this is notable because, until recently, exceptions to title 42 were rare. title 42 is a trump-era public health rule that immigration agents have used nearly 2 million times since 2020 to swiftly expel migrants to mexico. and per court order, the biding administration must keep it in place, forcing asylum seekers to cross into the u.s. illegally.
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they want to cross legally. that's why they're here after a grueling journey. so, they travelled through ten countries to get to mexico. >> si. >> reporter: the pastor shows us how it works. anticipation builds, as he puts migrants on a list by arrival date. after months of waiting and paperwork, the pastor buses these migrants to the international bridge, where they walk up to immigration, and in most cases ask for asylum. on this day, he says he bussed more than 200. >> this removes the human smuggler. this is them going to the port of entry and, in some cases, asking for asylum. >> yes, they know there's many people on the list and it's got to be legal. >> reporter: legal, but still
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broken. more than 40% of the more than 28,000 exceptions to title 42 have happened here at the reynosa hidalgo international bridge. silva has this message for migrants. >> do not come to the border. do not come to reynosa. >> reporter: this family is already here, risking it all. >> what is your american dream? [ speaking non-english ] >> reporter: he says he wants to work for a better life. and so are thousands of others waiting for their chance at the american dream. now, i asked dhs about all of these exceptions. why all of these exceptions? why now? now, dhs did not send me a statement on record, but i did hear from a federal law enforcement source, which told me what we already know, that title 42 is in place and that it applies on a case-by-case basis for humanitarian reasons. so, i did some more digging. and turns out, in a footnote, in a federal filing, there is some
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light to all of this. it says in part, quote, given a significant increase in the number of individuals who have presented themselves with situations that weren't humanitarian exceptions, dhs has, beginning july 13, 2022, began to gradually increase the number of humanitarian exceptions it applies subject to operational constraints. poppy? >> rosa, that is exceptional reporting. thank you very much for all the digging you did. "out front" next, it has been one of the quietest hurricane seasons in decades, with no named storms at all in august. but is that about to change? purchases on your discover card.d. ♪ ♪ the thing that's different about a vrbo vacation home. no stranger at the dinr table making things awkward. or in anher room taking up space.
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all right. breaking news. we have just obtained the trump legal team's response to the justice department's filing. it is 19 pages. "ac 360" with john berman will bring you that right now. all right. as you just heard, the former president's legal team has just had its say after the justice department says a mouthful about classified documents at mar-a-lago. john berman here in for anderson. seconds ago, lawyers for the former president took the next step in an effort to force independent review of materials taken from his florida message. their court filing caps a day of reaction to a justice department filing and the picture, this one, in attachment f. it shows highly classified documents that the fbi says it found, despite written assurance two months prior, according to doj, that none demaine
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