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the permits are off in that direction, somewhere. we can't see them today, too much pollution. sometimes, if i want to warm up a picture -- it is a good little trick. i want to drop that would take me traveling around the world. my parents cut national geographic magazine and i love, looking at all the photos. they were taken all over the
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world and i thought i want a job that will take me traveling. i want to see elephants. get in the car mary. >> you guys. wait. [inaudible] when i was little, there is nothing better than going out on my bicycle. and i could really like, almost close my eyes and go back to seeing that kid. and i literally would ride my bike to china. to me, that was just a dream. i'm gonna go to china one day.
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[inaudible] >> and i fought for years to get that position. and they would say that right. i do think i was born to be a news cameraman. one of the first jobs i had at cnn was editing. they decided they would rotate the editors out into the field to work with the camera people. what i got outside the building, i was like, i'm never going back in the building.
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fourth grade, my teacher wants to give a gift to the world. my gift to the world of the camera. i was worried about people and more. i want to help make peace. and i wanted to help people understand each other, and i felt like with a camera we could understand with to other. all of us, we are like front line combat camera women. right? we would come back with the goods. >> i think the five of us, we all had the same dream. we wanted to tell stories. we wanted the rest of the world to see these stories. and understand what was going on in the world. some people just aren't cut out for an ordinary life.
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[noise] [inaudible] [noise] as a photographer you have a daunting responsibility, because, what you are doing is witnessing the event for the world. there is such a power in pictures. people often will remember only the photographs. in the early 80s, you just didn't see that many female photojournalist. so, people are often surprised, or people would ask if you are carrying the equipment for the camera man. we were just as good as the guys, we are just as brave as the guys. it is like, scooter tripod over,
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we are here. please. >> they've cameraman lays the trail that they didn't even know they were blazing at the time. they were incredibly brave, incredibly resourceful, there are tough, there is a little bit of competition among them but they supported each other, because they knew that being a female and it's traditionally male dominated business. they needed support from your fellow sisters. >> i grew up alongside these camerawoman. they have a lot to teach me. i was delighted to be with the sisterhood. >> it is a sisterhood. when you go into these situations. they are very difficult. they are very scary. it is nice to know that someone understands what you've been through.
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there was a certain understanding. we had each other's backs. >> we all commanded a lot of attention in the group because it was unusual to have that many women working together. we were breaking down certain barriers and conceptions about women in the field, and women in the front lines. [noise] >> the only people that really put their lives on the line are the camera people. [noise] >> they were not there
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went. we got interrogated for about 6:46 hours. then they said, okay go. it can be a very aggressive business. >> who are you? >> go, go. >> if you are women showing up on the scene with a bunch of men, sometimes ben think they can have the advantage over you professionally. we always had to stay on guard about that and make sure people knew that we were serious. i had to be twice as good, twice as fast, just to be on the equal playing ground as a guy. i had to work harder, i had to be better to be seen as an
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equal. >> in somalia, there was this gi that said to marry, need any help carrying that camera man? mary said, no, unity health care your gun? >> if i had $1 for every time somebody asked me how much the camera weighed, i could have retired. >> what's up mary? what are you doing today? >> what do you think we are doing, then. it's another day of fun and games. >> mary is outrageous and energetic, and not to be stopped, and not to be told no. she just never winds down. mary is still kicking butt.
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she is still on the big stories, she is still doing incredibly brave camerawork, journalism. [speaking foreign language] [noise] >> we are giving doing a developing story, that will happen tomorrow. in the meantime, doesn't get better than this? look. no shoes. these boys need to save their mo for the fight. this is from a bullet casing, too much celebratory gunfire.
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>> mary is a lot of fun to work with. mary is almost resistant to tear gas. it's almost like she drinks target grass for breakfast and then sets off for the day with her coffee. >> what did you see? >> what did i see? more like what i smelled. i was blinded by their gas, they got nasty so fast. >> what is unique about mary is her perseverance. this is a physically, mentally, and in every respect, demanding job. it is difficult. here she is. i've known mary for 24 years. she has the same level of enthusiasm and attention to detail, and a demand that others maintain that kind of
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focus. i don't think you see that in many other people in this business. >> this is our glamorous workstation over here today. we are charging batteries and running generator power. there is no electricity out here. it is a camping trip. no running water, for me the biggest challenge as the only woman of this group here. you can see, come out here, the biggest challenge for me is if i have to p, where do i go? do you see a rock to hide behind? i certainly don't. it is nice to sleep outside. you can see so many stars tonight. the entire milky way galaxy. how often do people get to see that?
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huge chunk of the arab spring and lyft to tell the tale. lucky. somebody said i'm like a cat, i have nine lives. it's like no, don't say that. that would say that. [noise] >> several days into the beginning of the revolution in egypt, i called it the bat of karate, there is big battles going on. this, bridge on the street. but later on in the day, and this was a goose bump. it was historic. the moment that egyptian army tanks and abc's pulled up this street. >> a dramatic development here. you have to say what you're seeing is dozens of trucks full
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of riot police. i see a large column of black smoke. >> earlier that day, it started out ugly for me, because i had a camera and ripped it out of my head. he took it and ran off. >> i don't know what's, quiet but we are going. but [noise] [noise] [inaudible] we were in and out of different front lines along the way. every time, every time there are a couple of close calls. >> you guys. wait.
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>> the driver starts to take off. all i was thinking was, this is happened to me, i've had a driver leave during an ambush. >> are you in? mary >> simon. >> we are leaving this area. afraid. it's like a war zone, you know. i'm not an adrenaline junkie. thought about the front lines and bang bang with me. in worsens, where care about the most, are the civilians. the human beings through no choice of their own who are forced to live in these places. as we are covering the battle for west mosul. the amount of destruction was unbelievable. the citizens of mosul, we're
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under isis control for three years. it must have been really bad living under it. the people that would come out, that had hid in their house, four days, with no food or water. you, know the looks on their faces. i really felt for them. the things people had to resort to, to survive. they were incredible. >> it is important to let these people talk. so they can tell their stories. [speaking foreign language] that is important to me. kids should never have to
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experience war. they just couldn't. we were told, super young, that you have to be tough, you have to be macho in a male perspective. you feel like, you know, you're not able to open up and, you know, be vulnerable with your feelings, you know what i mean. you have this idea of this machismo, right? like that you have to always be the toughest,
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personal things, we talked about things that upset us. we really talked. we really talked, we really knew each other. >> i think that's why we became all such good friends. that was our family. [laughs] [inaudible] >> i must tell you, is time to go away. you must go now. >>,,. got out of college, wanted a job, got an interview, very excited. and the news director basically statue down and he said i have
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brought you here because i am not with to give you a job. i brought you here to tell you that you are a girl, and you can't do this job. i was flabbergasted. i couldn't believe it. i thought i'm going to prove you wrong. because i can, i always knew i could. there is a job opening in lebanon and i wanted it. i wanted to be there, i want to take pictures, it was my passion.
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i was 20, 1:22. seeing more itself for the first time, getting shot at, seeing people get shot. seeing the aftermath of a massacre. it was -- sometimes it wasn't easy at all. >> two young palestinians, with a day before allegedly killed in rob a local palestinian, are brought out and a militia man says he will execute them now in front of our cameras. cnn's, jane evans, is taken by surprise at such an offer. >> no, no. >> they are not executed. >> the people that were there were not sure if they want to the girl as the camera person. but we are sent out on these stories. and there are very dangerous. there was a lot of shelling going on. a lot of student going on. we got right in the middle of it.
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[noise] we have to hunker down a few times from the snipers. it was frightening. but we've got the story. and i got the job. weijia we all just love the visuals. we all just not being there, in that moment, when history is happening. >> please raise your right hand and say so help me god. >> so help me god. >> there is nothing like it.
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sydney is amazing, i love her, she's assistant to me. she is so funny. she's a brilliant photographer. she is so creative. sydney was just known as like, such a great camera woman. what she brought, visually, to a story. was just phenomenal. and, you can almost just use her pictures and to help with the correspondence. in 1986 i moved to china to study chinese. it was a calculated risk, because i knew cnn was gonna open a beer and china in a year.
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all the things went well. i traveled across the country, fortunately, cnn i opened the first bureau in 1987. i was given the camera job. >> it was an incredible time in china, because, the young people stood up they said. we don't like this. for the first time in the lives they were driving fast, they were not obeying their elders, there are staging this big sit in internment square, and was the most amazing -- [noise] [speaking foreign language] [speaking foreign language]
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i thought the biggest cause i knew they're gonna climb founded at. night that particular night, i knew was gonna be the night. i felt it in my bones. the government was gonna shut this down. you are it. you are the one that's got to see it. you are the one who's going to record it. that's why you are a journalist. so we stayed. we start to get reports that the tanks were coming. there's flames in the distance.
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we're starting to hear both cracking down the street. not just things, ink but pretty heavy fire. and bodies coming into the square. we snuck around the back, it started talking to people as they left. >> do you think anybody got killed? >> of course, i am sure, very sure. many students were killed. >> how do you feel right now? >> we are right now? i'm very angry. >> to this day we don't know how many people died on the access roads and roads to the square. we still don't know how many people died that night.
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ugh. [ding] people often said that our images look different. that they could tell there was something different about the images that we, as women, made. i can just tell you that we were really good camera women. you we were really good photographers. and i think we did see things that other people didn't see.
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i'll wear the mullet together we took beautiful images. maria, is in many ways, unflappable. maybe she had fair but you would never see it. she would go to every frontline. i've never known maria to not go someplace. the job of a camera woman is very humbling. people allow us to see them at the most vulnerable. at the worst point in their lives. it is always amazing to me that they do allow that. it is a privilege, to be able to tell these stories. i have always felt very strongly, since i started going out to the field and covering the stories. especially the stories of a people, and civil unrest, and war.
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refugees. i have felt very strongly that they need to be told. i can really barely say the word refugee without tearing up, because we see so many refugees. running from horrible things. you come and you see that and you try to tell those people stories. and then after a week or two weeks you leave and you go back to your life. tear nice life. and you know these people are still there, and that mountainside, and that, tent still struggling. the guilt is the hardest thing. that's the hardest thing i think we deal with this camera women.
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[speaking foreign language] the advent of more women in the field, particularly women cameron people. coincided with a different type of storytelling. because boris became different. >> >> there was an ethnic cleansing that was beginning to be recognized. it led to a genocide. this was a place where the world did not want to hear the truth. women, in bosnia, are being
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targeted by the people in the hills, by the shelling, when they went out to collect water or when they went to the bread lines. women and children were also deliberately targeted. not just men. and i think, perhaps, a woman's touch, whether view through the camera, of what a woman focuses on. whether the sound, maybe the crying, or the sighing. >> focusing on the very human aspects of these conflicts. whether it is war, or famine. i do think storytelling changed
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and women were at the forefront of that movement. i was kind of spooked by the story. because they were targeting journalists. they were specifically shooting journalists. journalists were considered part of the problem. aged journalists were considered, fair game. a whenever margaret showed up, it was full on. later she was an individual. she was unlike anybody else.
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hey she had no fair. >> margaret was one tough cookie. there was no two ways about it. the way she looked, with that gothic. look with the black hair, the black eyes, the black clothes. you didn't cross margaret lightly. you didn't make small talk with margaret. she was somebody that i took really seriously. >> my first two weeks in bosnia, we did some really dangerous stuff. who crossed fought live together. margaret, you know, did what it took to tell the story. and she never complained. and nothing was ever too much or ever too dangerous for her.
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you need to know when you develop that instinct had to leave a situation. to get out when you still can. i took a break after two weeks of bosnia. of the most intense two weeks of my life and certainly my career. i remember asking margaret, don't you think you need to leave? you are here before me. we can come back again. no no no. i am going to stay. >> this is my first time it's areva. there was a famous street called sniper alley. as we were driving down sniper alley, talking, i was in the
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front seat. next to the driver. mark it was behind the driver, and the other correspond it was behind me. that moment. it sounded like 20 ball hammers hammering the side of the glass. [noise] i could feel the missile blasting that i heard mark say, oh my god, margaret is hurt. i look back and she slumped at him. and there's blood on his white shirt. it's drenched in red. and she's leaning over him. she's falling on to him. now, it is obvious, that she was hit right here. and everything split apart. >> margaret is still in surgery right now. the doctors have now said that it is not a guarantee that she will survive this. because her injuries to her head and throughout are very serious. even if she does survive it, her life will be very different from now on. >> i felt an amount of, not responsibility, but guilt. certainly sorrow.
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guilt that i didn't just drag route. but mark was not be dragged out. that was her strength as well, when marcus hit i was shocked. i was stunned. you, know you just sort of breathe. i. i know she was fighting for her life, i mean. it just puts all your own -- they put everything in. play makes you ask yourself, i'm going to continue this job? i'm going to do this? is it worth it? is she going to survive? what are we doing? why are we doing it? >> margaret, i mean, it was a wonder she survived that. and, she paid a very heavy price. i just made us all realize, you know. we are not in vulnerable. it can happen.
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ultimately, you are making the choice to put yourself in danger. and, ultimately, there is nothing that can protect you from that. >> i was getting called in for another assignment for serie a via, with christiane. my brother in law called me on the phone. he said, your mom is not going to call, if this is not gonna call, because they always want you to know that they support you. but i'm going to call, because they are crying. they are upset. they can't take it anymore. they are worried about you, they see what's going on, can you just say no for once? just say no this one time? >> so i did. i said no for an assignment.
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as i speak, marina could be us ready group is offshore mogadishu. . these, and other american forces will assist in operation restore hope. make no mistake about it, now, we and our allies. will ensure that aid gets through. >> we are the first team to go to somalia to cover the famine. when those images hit the world, people are just like, oh my god something has to be done. >> the aid was being stolen by the smell in clients. at the port, when it arrived. so, the u.s. intervened. to control and security aid.
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>> everywhere you look, people were dragging themselves to these feeding centers. one of the hardest stories to cover his family. >> i have a very hard time understanding, how people, through war. or through political means, would not allow -- would allow people to starve to death. it is a hard story to cover. for me, particularly with the children. , little kids. the innocence. that's not easy. it's not easy, because you know you can walk away. you know they can't. >> it is the first time in my life that i watch someone die because they didn't have any food.
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no one trains you to process that. . no one trains you to, you know, look don't ever lose your empathy. no matter how much you see, about how much a witness, because really, when it comes down to it, our job is to bear witness. and show people what was really happening in a place. >> sometimes, when you are so in the moment with those peoples lives. you do feel like you are taking something from them. and i feel like you carry that responsibility.
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you carry that responsibility to do good journalism for the rest of your lives. some of it was a very unpredictable and volatile place to work. we were vulnerable, you know, journalist did get killed there. there was no law, and somalia. there was a lot of the gun. sydney and somalia, you had to have protection. it is the only way you can get around. because of the warring clans.
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the women journalists. there are always at war with others. then you are always, always at risk of being robbed. and we were robbed. >> we did know where these guys came. from mexicano, i had a gun in my neck. three guns at my neck. >> this 12-year-old pops out of nowhere. and basically points the gun, right jane's face and says, give me the camera. >> die, die, die. jamming me in my neck and i'm thinking, oh my god. he doesn't know jane evans has
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a family. he doesn't care. he doesn't know if i have a family. he doesn't care. he is hungry, he wants something. and he's going to take it. , i thought that was it, i really did. i am telling you, there are some of those days where it's once i got back into the watch the dirt or blood or whatever off me. how, i was heading for the bar. [laughs] [laughs] i'm shocked to discover you people been drinking alcohol. frankly i am shocked. >> we just thicket eric each other. if someone wasn't doing very
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well, or someone had a rough assignment. sometimes those humor, sometimes it was dark humor, sometimes those a night in the bar. back then, it certainly didn't have the knowledge of ptsd like we have today. we don't even know what ptsd was. all we knew is we lived through that. we survived another day. we are also each other's therapist, very often, you feel powerless to change things. i mean, we all did what we did, because we wanted to change things. we wanted to tell the world what was going on. we wanted to write some wrongs. >> this is a job that took up all your time. you could be having a normal day, the next thing you know you are running out the door someplace.
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they were in the churches where they ran to protect themselves. the world wouldn't even call it a genocide, in the beginning. you're on the ground, you are seeing what you are seeing. what else do you call this? rwanda was tough because the hutus who had committed the genocide had crossed the border from wanda, into the democratic republic of congo. it was just hard to film because when the hutus escaped, they started dying of cholera. it was just biblical.
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among that horror, every shot had to have impact. every shot had to mean something. what a twisted thing of faith that these people had committed, genocide, and now they're all dying. >> i remember jade looking at it and in wonderment. we've never seen anything on a scale like this before. you kind of felt that you're walking amongst evil. you have to be careful for your own health. you're worried about your safety. the hardest thing is that you
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have to find a way to deal with the intense emotion of it. you could see, can you hear demotion my voice even when i think about it? i mean, you see so many horrible things. people doing so many horrible things to each other. that he will have to find a way to put it away. so you could continue working. >> part of being a female, in the news business, sometimes you probably act tough when you are not feeling tough. you are watching people die. you are watching man inhumanity to man. that's real, that takes you to your core. i think we didn't realize how
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much trauma we were internalizing ourselves. because, what the trump that we are witnessing, what other people were experiencing. it was so much greater than ours. i felt like i was witnessing another world. i'll tell these people stories, to the world. that was my offering to them. that i would tell and show, what was happening. and that's what really made me feel better. it still does, to this day, make me feel better about it. but it is still hard.
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♪ ♪ ♪ >> i was really lucky. i spent three months in south africa, leading up to the election of nelson mandela. it was great because cindy, she was based there. she is one of my great friends. and it was so much fun. ♪ ♪ ♪ going to the rallies for mandela was like going to a rock concert, it was hours of singing. at it was fun. >> mary jane, gosh, everybody came through that story. it was just great to be together on a story that was going to have a good outcome. what a story to cover it. south africans voting in the first non racial election. what a story to have.
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people lined up for blocks, blocks and miles and miles along the countryside to vote for the first time. and to vote for nelson mandela as president. to get to that election and then the inauguration, i was like, being invited to the world's best party. the best party ever! >> i'm so glad that i voted, you see. [inaudible] i'll do it again. >> mandela would recognize -- , because you know, she was always around. >> yes, i'm too tall. >> how was your first day of retirement? >> it's great, if i were you i'd be very tired right now. >> anytime you around him you would just feel him and even
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[noise ] >> you would go off into these crazy places. and then an airplane arrived home, you were at home in the world of normal. and you had to be normal. you know, that wasn't always easy to do. >> it's not an ordinary life, traveling and going from story to story. it's a very fragmented life, actually. it's impossible to have a
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relationship while traveling around like that. i mean, i saw people do it but i was not successful at doing it. it was too -- it was too hard to have any continuity in a relationship. >> you see amazing things and you have amazing experiences and you do what you love. but you pay the price, right? you know, you come home. it could be a bit lonely. but having a normal life was not that easy because, you know, you can't have a nice boyfriend at home was a normal job and say, i'll be home in three months. hey, you know there's a terrible massacre site that have to film today. a lot of times, that would make a lot of guys run for the hills. look [applause] >> cnn, cindy stern, yes a woman! yes a woman! -- >> i was asked to be on the joan rivers show. i was so nervous that --
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>> let's go right to the honest events, anything you've ever covered? >> -- absolutely had to be being in baghdad once the war started. and they asked me if i wanted to go, and i said of course i wanted to go. there was a new thing being in the enemies capital, every missile in the world aiming at you. and it was very exciting, we had all of this technology -- >> i had to say, i stole the show. because i don't think she was quite prepared for some woman to walk out and start talking about frontline this, frontline that. all the guys were like, really? [laughs] >> it's very hard to have a personal life, extremely hard. my work is my life. there are times when i've come off trips that have been so momentous, it would've been nice to have somebody to share the experience with. sometimes i joke until people
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>> [inaudible] >> i think a lot of us would've dealt with the injuries of marjory differently. it affected her ability to speak, to eat. she was in really, really bad shape. but she worked on getting better. and, once she was able to come back to work, and it took more than a year, margaret wanted to go back to -- >> high! [laughs] >> [inaudible] i look very different now?
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aren't so it's because they've both done such a good job -- >> for margaret, her work was everything. she was insistent on going back to work and working, you know, harder than anybody else. and she's like, this is what i do. this is what i want to do. >> margaret was an incredible human being. i met her after she was shot. but i saw photos of her before she was a strikingly beautiful woman with these gigantic blue eyes. she told me when she thought after she was hit, i didn't think a man would ever want to kiss me again. >> this was a woman whose face was completely changed. and i always wonder what you thought about that, as a woman. what did that, you know, professional horror due to her and the rest of her life?
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being a woman doing this job is very different. because often, the wounds, the result, the fallout have an exponential effect on women. >> in my early 40s, it was like a personal earthquake. oh my god! my life was always someone else's life. my life is the revolution, the tsunami, the latest war zone. i wanted my own life. i wanted to experience my own moments. and it was tough. it's a tough transition to make. i tried to hold on to it for a while. >> oh, champion! yeah! >> i realized, you know, i want to be a mom. so there i am. my kids in johannesburg, and i'm in the ivory coast, and i'm standing there in front of a -- , and i've got cigarette butts off my nose so i don't throw
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up. and i'm just going to burst into tears because i'm gonna miss mom and tots singing group on thursday. and that's when i made the call. i can't do this anymore. >> look, look how deep it is over here! >> i ended up as a single parent. and all that life on the road and learning how to organize and go places last-minute, deal with crisis, problem solving, troubleshooting, you know, pack, technical, adventure -- that made me a great single parent. >> no touching! >> the greatest gift i could give my son is that love of the unexpected and the love of adventure. [noise] >> this is christian maria and myself in london.
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>> okay, maria, turn your body a little bit more to the right. >> to the right? >> yeah, go ahead. one more. great! >> it was pretty cool to get a photo shoot -- this photograph was in the book -- in annie's book. she told us she was going to give the last word, put us in the last page. and she did, so, that was kind of cool. yeah. we were strong. >> -- let's go home. >> great! [applause] >> it was good -- >> i wanted to slow down a little bit. i was getting a little bit older. i thought about children. i was starting to feel fragile. i wasn't sure how much more i wanted to risk my life.
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then, i had kate. i wanted to know her. i wanted to spend time with her. and i couldn't do that if i was always gone. it was a very, very thoughtful decision when i made to slowly walk away. >> he's just crawling everywhere, isn't he? >> my decision to be present with my daughter was the best decision. >> i have to say my love is camerawork for sure.
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it's a very physical job. and i could feel, it at a certain point. and that's when i started thinking, maybe i need to transfer out of camerawork. >> when you're working in a war zone, there are 1 million things that are going through your mind. as you get closer and closer to the danger, you also pick up so much more information. and so, you know where you can go and where you can't go. where you hope you know. we were coming down from the north toward to carry, which
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was an off hometown. i was working as a producer, not as a camera person. we were into cars. when we enter to cree, all these images were still intact. that was an indication that it was still under control of the army or at least some on oil list. we went through this armed checkpoint. [speaking foreign language] >> but, soon we attracted some attention. and a couple of pickup trucks with guys and guns came and we figured we needed to get out of there. the guys with the ak-47s pulled up right next to us. and my driver was talking to them, across me. then they slowed back up and
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just started firing into our car. [noise] >> okay that's gunfire. we've just come under attack. under attack! [speaking foreign language] >> stop! stop! stuff! >> no problem, he's coming. >> could you please stop so he could catch up to us, please! >> so these are two vehicles. you'll see that vehicle there, a window has been shot out. one of our drivers has got some sort of -- >> hay! get up! >> obviously, a head wound
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their. >> -- it's bleeding and, i don't know. both of us are bleeding in the head. >> a bullet hit the back of my -- jacket and splintered to my head was bleeding. and i just remember being crouched down with my head towards where the radio is and thinking, this is how it ends. we made a mistake and this is how it ends. i did have a fear about going back to iraq after that. i guess a little bit superstitious.
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i was asked to go back a few months later. and i declined it. >> you got a little flags to veneer their? >> oh! okay, thank you it says. -- isn't that lovely? >> yeah. >> talk about the flip of the coin, right. now i'm a part of the team that's responsible for these people. >> so, this is the soundbite i like. i fall down before the gravy, i fall down for the immense sacrifice of the 37,000 killed in 19,000 reported missing who died at -- >> is that in english, do you know? >> i think that's an english. >> now, i'm just on the other side of the equation. and the one that sits back at
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>> so, i wanted to be a camera man for the news. and i fought for years to get to that position. >> when margaret finally had to stop shooting because of her illness, it was really hard for her. >> all hands on deck! [inaudible] >> she never wanted to give into an illness. she had a huge amount of drive. she wanted to overcome things. she never wanted something else to determine her existence. >> i fought for my life. and --
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each and every one of those women have made a difference, through their pictures, through their storytelling, through their commitment. >> mary has been given it up. she's still doing it. i can't see her doing anything else for the rest of her life. [noise] >> wherever there's conflict, you'll find mary. >> some people have asked me, you know, why do you do it? why do you risk your life? >> i think it's important. you know, to let the rest of the world know what's going on. we're all part of the human race, that's why we do it. aaa >> i feel really fortunate that i had the opportunity to
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witness all those events, and work in the way that we did. >> i had no idea, i forgot about this, yeah. >> and where was that? >> peru. >> i was the sound person, one of the sound people. >> we all love each other so dearly. who else has gone through that? who else has been through what we've been through together? >> even to this day, they are the ones i turn to. and when you haven't seen each other for a while, it's as if you've never left. >> when you've been through the kinds of things that we went through together, it does form a real enduring bond. it connects to you in a way that is provided. >> we've taken the images that defined history for our generation full. and that is a profound
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experience. [noise] >> packing up a huge ranch house. and leaving my job. and i don't know what's next. it's almost too big to think about what i'm leaving behind, so i don't know what it's going to look like it. it's time for something different. the same is easy, the same in life, the same is very easy. i've always taken the rogue
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list travel. and time to do that again. [applause] >> jane! maria! mary! and margaret! we brought one of a journey together. and for all of, you every day when you come to, work right now, it really matters. you come in, show up and play to win. it's time to get that -- back. it's scary but i've lived a life of courage and i want to continue that.
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hello everyone, i'm john vause at cnn with the top stories. a trump appointed federal judge has granted the former presidents request for an independent review of documents and evidence, seized from his mar-a-lago estate. this is a big win for trump's legal team. part of the ruling means investigators will not have access to the documents or -- special masters. both sides must head now to submit a list of potential candidates for their job. the judge cited allegation of bias, immediately, x as one of her foot ruling in favor of trump. more than 11,000 government documents were removed from mar-a-lago during the fbi
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search last month. we'll have a closer look at all of this, in just a few minutes. right here, live on cnn newsroom. well, two suspects in a deadly mass stabbing in canada's saskatchewan province has been found dead. -- with the royal canadian mounted police warning local residents to be vigilant. possibly seeking medical attention for an injury. on monday, -- charged with murder and attempted murder in the stabbing that killed ten and wounded 18. in the coming hour, lustrous will be invited by queen elizabeth to form a new government and service prime minister after winning a leadership battle for the ruling conservative party. trust, defeated rishi sunak, the former finance minister with a narrow victory in about a round -- of the conservative party. she has promised to cut taxes, grow the economy, ease the burden of record high energy cost for both families and business. the former foreign secretary takes over for boris johnson and break this tradition, he will fly to scotland. formally under his resignation to the queen who has remained
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in -- on a summer holiday. >> after johnson resignation, -- , and a separate just for a 30 minute audience with the, queen just south after that, she'll deliver her first speech to the nation as prime minister. ukraine's president said russian shelling caused the fire at the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant. it disconnected the last working reactor from the partnered. the spokesperson for the international atomic energy agency said that it should be reconnected once the fires are out. and i 18 was given access to the new color planned last week. expected to report on safety conditions at the facility. president zelenskyy said the continued russian shelling has proved that moscow is not concerned by the prospect of causing a potential nuclear disaster. >> shelling the territory in separate xia means that the terrorists, they do not care what the iaea says. what the international community decides. russia is interested only in the fact that the situation would bring in the works and as long as possible. >> more details now from cnn's
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