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foreign countries nuclear capabilities. cnn has yet to come -- that said, when reached by the post, -- did not deny the substance of. it instead, he said something that we've now starting a la ronda fenders of the former president in the last 24 hours, deflecting the facts, focusing set on the lead. for example, here's marco rubio who serves on this -- this past sunday, exploiting the way the fbi recovering -- as a storage argument. >> this is really, at its core, a storage argument that they're making. there are documents there, they don't deny the access to them. i don't think a fight over storage of documents is worthy of what they've done. >> now that the washington post published a report about nuclear secrets big involved, senator rubio is focusing more on apparently cause. >> it doesn't seem like the kind of thing that you should have in your post presidential

desk drawer. >> let's break this down. first of all, we really don't know. let's go back and understand that all this information is coming from one side at one place. that is sources -- who are the sources with knowledge? they have been justice department. they're leaking to the media. >> -- former president son, eric, echoed while adding a twist of his own. >> you literally have the fbi who spending more time leaking stuff to the press. i mean, these pictures, you thing my father believes -- he's a very neat guy, he doesn't leave documents staged all over an office floor. >> to be clear, nobody has suggested that this is the way that the fbi file these documents -- they were mostly in boxes, someone desks. the former president's office.

-- to explain what one classified documents, let alone many, we're doing it is that's resort. he did, however, -- fishing expedition. as for republican senator josh hawley he do deprive this leads today, but not with the sort of cover -- >> the following show that there are classified documents on mar-a-lago. >> hillary clinton had 110 classified emails that she deleted on her servers -- what was done to hillary clinton? nothing. >> if you're concerned about her, should and should be concerned about trump? >> first of all, i don't know the facts but i can tell you it is laughable. -- into his socks and other pieces of clothing. nothing was done. >> keeping them honest, you might want to tell that to sandy berger, the former national security adviser was indicted, pleaded guilty, fine

50,000 dollar, disbarred, and stripped of security clearance. consider that, as you do, listening with to -- exit attorney general said just this morning. >> i think, as i've said all along, there's two questions, will the government be able to make out a technical case? will they have evidence by which they could indict someone, including him? that's the first question. i think they're getting very close to that one. >> to a second question, whether the former president should be indicted, he said, he hoped not. he added that there would be considerable pressure to do it because he would ask questions about fairness and whether a former president should be above the law. he quoted bill barr, look, if anybody else would've gotten indicted, why not indict him? the fact that the former attorney general's even entertaining the question, charging the former president, is certainly something. before getting to the legal ramifications, i want to bring in our national security

counter intelligence forces tonight. -- andrew mccabe. -- james clapper. >> you've got these documents the holiest of holy, when it comes to sensitive information. can you explain -- for the u.s. if an adversary were to gain access to them while they were in mar-a-lago. >> anderson, first thing, we don't actually know the content of any of these documents. you can infer things from their classification and in this particular case, the subject topic matter, assuming the reporting is accurate. the reason this is important from an intelligence perspective, when i said to the holiest of the holiest, -- make a decision to have nuclear weapons is because they decided that they need them for their very existence, for their survival.

ironically enough, this is something that we and north korea have in common. we both decided, at different times, that we needed nuclear weapons as a deterrent from an attack from an adversary. accordingly, from an intelligence perspective, knowledge of all countries capabilities are the most closely guarded secrets that they have and, in turn, are the hardest gleam for us. if these documents are exposed, or revealed, they'll reveal two things, potentially. one, of course, what we do know about a foreign nation's nuclear capability, which, in turn, could lead to back engineering by that state to figure out how we got it and close it off. it could take years to restore that. that actually means that, by

virtue, were more ignorant of a nuclear equipped country that that diminishes our own national security. that's a big deal. the other side of that coin, it also could reveal what we don't know, which then could serve to reinforce what they're doing to continue to mask information and prevent us from gaining insight into the nuclear capability. on several levels, this is quite damaging, in my opinion. >> andrew, -- what became aware that this is included in these documents, if the reporting is correct, what steps would be necessary to ensure that the secrets remain secrets? the whole special classification of this and how they're stored seems to be a big piece to this. >> it certainly is. no factor makes that clear then the reporting that several of

the agents on the search warrant lacks the necessary access to those special access programs to actually review the documents. these things are so limited in their distribution to people with, not just top secret, but sci access and special access program authorities that you're going to have to search to find the right people to dig into these documents to conduct this sort of assessment to understand, like, what have we lost here? what's the worst-case scenario, in terms of these documents falling into the hands of the adversary? what do we compromise? heavily betrayed the trust of a trusted ally? some of those nuclear nations who could've been the topic of discussion in these pieces, if the reporting is accurate, our friends of ours. they're not all adversaries. they could compromise existing

and a -- with allied countries. there are very many levels of potential damage here and at the very first outset, you've gotta find the right people with access to these programs. it's really. complicated >> the former president and his supporters have made the claim that he declassified all the documents found at mar-a-lago. obviously, there's been a lot of reporting on that since then, people pointing out that, obviously, to declassify all this, while he does have powers in that regard, there would be a paper trail of it. there would be other people who were informed, other agents sees that would be informed. does that make any sense to you that he would be classified material related to the nuclear capabilities? >> no, it doesn't the. . most acutely, nuclear related

information -- it's also something of a non sequitur -- heated classify something if nobody else knows about it. if the rest of the government still believes that whatever he -- to declassify, if nobody else knows that, it's still treated as those classified, then, essentially, it's so classified. there has to be some evidence of a declassification written on the document. if they were declassified, it would be documented. so the best of our knowledge, it wasn't. >> -- more now on the legal implications of the -- former president had at least one highly classified -- at mar-a-lago. we should mention, he calls anything nuclear related, quote, a hoax. joining us to cnn legal analyst, former deputy assistant, elliott williams. -- tenure at the justice department included serving as counsel to the assisted -- also with us, david urban, who

served as captain strategist for the former president. -- how critical is it to figure out why the former president had this material, what who may have had access to it? >> it's critical for the intelligence damage is. for them to understand not what his thinking process was, but what actions were actually taken, with respect to the documents. the factual investigation about did anybody else see these documents, where they communicated to anyone, who else had access to them, what was the intention to do with them? was there something that triggered the search that was trying to prevent it, or had it just been so long they had been trying to get the documents that they finally executed a physical search. now that we know a little bit more details about the nature of, at least, one of these

particular -- there's consequences beyond just the u.s. national security establishment. as a director saying earlier, there are more policy considerations. there are foreign countries, as that he was saying, allies of ours that have to conduct, potentially, -- who want to know what country was a subject of that document. they want to know whether their capabilities have been compromised. so, it triggers, not just something in u.s. interests, but interests that are fundamental to the existential survival of other nations of our allies around the world. >> david, you said last night, when we talked, the former president having these documents that his beach resort for 18 months is inexcusable. the former presidents allies continue to, basically, not address this particular story. understandably -- do you still --

are east of the opinion that this is inexcusable? >> anderson, again, you remember my background, right? i want to west point, served in the military, had a top secret security clearance myself -- long period of my career. -- are incredibly sensitive. it is been outlined previously -- the secret that they hold the methods sources -- how they're collected, what they contain are all limited to very few people. it's concerning not just what they were there but who else had access to them? who put them in a box? who carried them down, what lawyers look through the inventory and read them -- -- and having special access

program documents in any facility outside of scif is just mind-boggling. >> elie, do you think it's complicates the role of a special master, given how sensitive these documents are and is there any -- privilege? >> the special master's role is complicated enough based on the fact that the judge never quite defined with a special master would be doing never had to be a special master name this case. of course, that's where we are in the justice department presidential attorneys are going to make some sense out of that. getting to david's points about who gets these kind of clearances -- they're going to have to find someone who, a, has an incredibly high level of security clearance or be, get ones very very quickly. number two will be palatable tall parties. yes, the sensitivity of this documents, assuming they're there is going to create an

incredibly complicated situation. again, to be clear, the judge could've left the situation in place -- to just exclude the evidence in trial. needless to say, this is where we are and will have to see in about a week -- -- do you think they should do that and it is there any deadline for filing appeal? >> my understanding is that right now there is not a deadline that they have to file an appeal. i would imagine that the justice department is still considering whether to -- there is both a legal aspects to it. so, from my perspective, and there was a -- reason to appoint a special master in this. and there is the potential to create some bad law here, if they don't challenge it. proceed in this case without challenge and laying out the arguments, at least, for why it

wasn't warranted in this particular case, as compared to any other case around the country, we are physical searches executed based on the fourth quarter court order. so, that is one piece of it. >> david, how hard will it be to find a special master who has the security clearance to do this? >> anderson, i do not know. but, as was pointed out, you need to find someone who not only has ts/sci, but can be read into the programs. they have to be written by the appropriate agencies. because you all the clearances mean you can have access to these programs. and point out what carrie is talking about the 11th circuit may not be the most favorable circuit to appeal to. if the department of justice appeals and loses don't forget the trump administration appointed over 25% of the circuit court judges that asserting currently right now on the, bench are trump-appointed judges. if they get an unfavorable ruling here it could be very bad precedent going forward. that's something the department of justice needs to take you to

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>> it is extra training partisan training not just for volunteers observing elections but including the actual paid election workers who will check in voters and out ballots and even help in the counting which is why what they are being told is alarming. >> does a lot of bad stuff that's happening in some elections. we are going to have to keep our heads on a swivel and just start of document the irregularities. >> the poll workers are hired by townsend clerk,, in wayne county's republican chair person, cyril constantino, tells them they may need to break the rules they uncover. >> they were told by trainers they may not have their phones with them. i think they may hide it, and maybe have a small that -- you needed to get here at notes. >> if we are observed with pennant piece of paper writing on anything they just said they would ask us that they would remove us. >> that's what we have got to do it secretly. >> this training for the primary which is practice for the upcoming midterms, according to cost and teen oh. it's not just what is being talked. it is who is doing the

teaching. >> you think a lot of the monkey business that is happening is happening at the vote aggregation location. >> that is election air patrick coal, baku co-led this training session. he's a former state senator who wrote a book called the 2020 coup and has a blog filled with debunked conspiracy theories about voting machines. he has spread so much disinformation about the 2020 election that he got this cease and desist letter from dominion, the voting machine company saying, you are knowingly sowing discord in our democracy, all the while soliciting exorbitant amounts of money. >> first of all -- >> he has appeared on steve bannon show. and with the my pillow guy, mike lindell. >> we did see evidence that it was connected to the internet. >> there is no evidence any molly sheen swerve -- but coal beck is still asking republican poll workers to check. >> -- bottom right hand corner and what i'm checking here is to see whether or not these

machines are checked to to the -- >> he refuses to speak to cnn about the other leader of the training, cheryl costantino, did. >> you are training these people to be undercover spies. those are the words that you are using. i'm wondering, why? >> first of all, if you remember in the election two years ago there were so many problems. >> with election staffing she said with who counted ballots. but she is an election denier as well. she filed a baseless lawsuit in detroit, alleging election fraud in 2020. it was thrown out. >> why did she tell election workers to add acts like spies -- >> to kind of re-frame it to make it more fun and interesting. i said, instead of causing a bunch of scenes and things like that, just write it down kind of be like spies and let me know what is going on. >> while michigan's primary election went smoothly -- >> i did nothing wrong -- >> poll challenger affiliated with colbeck and his training was thrown out of detroit's

ballot counting center for repeatedly getting too close to workers. >> i told them they were breaking the law -- >> was happening in michigan is happening across the nation. attempts -- from poll workers, all the way up to candidates, from secretary of state -- has led seminars in eight swing states, all under the presumption democrats cheat. cnn caught up with her in wisconsin. >> -- make sure that there is another set of eyes going on, watching the ballots, watching the process, knowing what is going on in the election offices. >> these training sessions are planned chaos. these people are being radicalized. >> jeff used to lead the michigan republican party. they think they are saving democracy from the cannibal socialists, we are in fact, what they are doing is eroding the public faith in elections. >> drew griffin joins me now.

drew are states prepared if a bunch of partisan, as they say ultra maga election workers show up to work this election? >> they're trying to get prepared. michigan secretary of state, who you had on the show last night, says her clerks are prepared, and they can remove some of these people if they are violating the rules. but i think, more importantly, anderson, the clerks tell me that these election deniers, these maga people, are actually borne of ignorance of the voting system. and what they actually get them in there to do the work of the election and see the process, many times they become pretty good poll workers. so, there is some hope there. anderson? >> as you report, when you drill down a lot of these people on spreading the landslides, they're all making money from this in one way or another. that guy had a bookie selling full of conspiracy theories. they have websites. they are selling stuff. >> this is a complete industry. this is a 100% grift.

i'm telling you this goes back to the my pillow guy interview that we had, on your show. featured on your show. i mean, he's just riding this, seminar after seminar, of these vote tunnel things they're going through. it is turned into a cottage industry. and more that they can keep it going on their blog's, and in their podcast, and in their little radio shows, the more money they make. >> drew griffin, i appreciate it, thanks. coming up next, the obamas returned to the white house for the unveiling of there white house portraits. david axelrod served in the administration with the obamas was at the ceremony. he had journalist nancy gibbs join us for a look at the relationship between the former president and his successor president biden. g. ♪ when you have nausea, heartburn, indigestion, ♪ ♪ upset stomach, diarrhea. ♪ pepto bismol coats and soothes for fast relief... when you need it most. new projects means new project managers. you need to hire. i need indeed.

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man who became a true partner, and a true friend. joe, it is now america's good fortunate to have you as president. >> too often, in this country, people feel like they have to look a certain way, or act a certain way to fit in. that they have to make a lot of money, or come from a certain group, class, faith, in order to matter. but, what we are looking at, today, is a portrait of a biracial good with an unusual name, and the daughter of a water pump operator, and a stay at home mom. what we are seeing is a reminder that there is a place for everyone in this country. >> i'm joined now by cnn senior political commentator david axelrod, who served as a -- >> and also journalist nancy gibbs, coauthor of the presidents club inside the

world's most exclusive fraternity. >> david as you mentioned, they were in attendance and -- what was the mood like as they made their first return to the white house since 2017? >> anderson, it's extraordinary. there is a tremendous gathering of cabinet members and staff members. some of them who are working for president biden now, but it was as if the years had melted away, and everyone was together again in common cause. and there was a sense of joy that has been so absent from our politics for a while. it was more than i imagined it would be. >> nancy, it's interesting, because you are a former first -- saying that traditions like this matter. how symbolic are moments like these. and how important they are, not only to the office of the presidency but to democracy itself. >> i think that's right.

yes, they are symbolic. but there is substance in the story. today, the story had skipped a chapter. but normally you can see to politicians fight a fierce campaign against each other, like bush and clinton in 1992. they come together for one of these unveilings and just honor their service and remind people that the president is the one person elected by all the people who serves all the people including the ones who did not vote for him. obama did not talk about the presidency as being a relay race which suggests that they view themselves, democrat and republican, as being on the same team. it is like during transition, when the incoming and outgoing presidents me to talk about national security and then they ride together on inauguration day to the capital. all of those are these gestures that michelle obama was right, they are important and they send a powerful message about the importance of institutions

and the continuity that he's more powerful than some of the things that divide us. >> david, i want to play something that president biden said today to the crowd. just watch. >> there are a few people i have ever known with more integrity, decency and moral courage then barack obama. mister president, nothing could have prepared be better or more to be president of the united states than to be at your side for years, and i mean that from the bottom of my heart. >> what is the relationship between president biden, former president obama like, right now? he said at a very rich partnership during the obama administration. there has been a lot written about tension among their staff. how do you see it? >> these men weren't particularly close when barack obama tapped joe biden to be vice president. and i watched their relationship grow. when i went to see biden was one of the last people to interview him when we were considering him for vice

president -- senator obama was -- and he said, look, i thought i ran for president because i thought it would be the best president. voters have a different idea. now, i want to help barack obama. -- he said, remember i told, you i was wrong. the right guy won. i am just so pleased to be his partner and working with him. he's an extraordinary guy. that is what he believed and they became personally close. so, yes, there is always going to be those kind of tensions. there is rivalry and so on. but at the core, these men had a real friendship. i think, more than perhaps any vice president then in recent history. >> nancy, as you know, talk about this portrait, it would've been unveiled during the trump administration -- that's the tradition. president trump offended what would have been a 40-year tradition -- even if they diverged. do you think it will ever fully go back to that? >> i do.

because 240 years of history is pretty powerful. and this is important to remember that donald trump's rejection of the presidents club wasn't just incidental to his presidency it was central. the bush, is the clintons, the obamas represented everything that he was against, all of their norms and networks and knowledge. and so too is a very deliberate thing for him to distance himself, in a kind of equal opportunity way from all of them. i think most presidents throughout history have their predecessors were really useful, as occasional diplomats, as back channel communicators. as the few people who they can look to as peers because they have all carried that same weight on their shoulders and they carry a lot of those same scars. >> david, what do you think the odds are that president biden would unveil the trump portraits? do you think the former president would even accept an invitation back to the white house? >> seeing as how he doesn't

believe that he is a former president, i don't know that he was ready for a portrait unveiling. it's an interesting question. and i think it's a tough question. there is no receptivity on their part. let me just say, though, anderson, to nancy's point, when we were in transition between two administrations, george w. push could not have been more gracious to us. and it was not because we had been so kind to him in the campaign. we were not. it was because bush viewed himself as a trustee of the democracy, and he wanted to hand off to us in good stead and good shape. and give us a chance to succeed. and i will never forget the kindness is that he and his team extended to us during that period. that is how it should be, and whether -- i don't know that donald trump buys into it. nancy is right. it is not part of his political project. but most presidents understand that. >> david axelrod, nancy gibbs, thank you so much. appreciate it. >> thank. you >> thank you.

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this is where we sleep. this is how we live, mikhail says. -- turned fsb informant shows us around the ducts refugee center. -- all i want for the future is a positive and normal life, he says. -- any more of these adventures. it was as a young opposition campaign that mikhail scene here in an anti government protest in russia caught the attention of the russian security service, the fsb. -- alexei navalny, russia's -- made him particularly valuable. but he was originally targeted to be termed, he told, me with fsb threats. >> they knew i was avoiding military service and gave me a simple choice, either to cooperate with them or go to prison for years. basically, as

i was threatened, and as a 19-year-old student, very frightened. there are so many stories, even videos, of people being abused in prison, to even think about that is scary. >> you were working with navalny. it is pictures of you quite closely with him. what kind of information did you give the fsb about him? >> i wasn't his close friend, so i couldn't give them information specifically about him. i was just working in a regional office, so they were more interested in when we were planning to hold meetings and protests, and of course what kind of investigations we were conducting. we even cooperated on some of these investigations. following any media outcry the fsb would either imprison or protect a particular official. >> but as well as keeping tabs on activists inside the country, the secretive russian security services also appear to have been stepping up surveillance of russians living abroad. mikhail says the fsb pulled him out of russia and sent him to the former soviet republic of

georgia to infiltrate the growing expatriate community there, escaping repressions at home. alongside a network of other fbi fsb informants already in place. [speaking non-english] >> informants like this man, who says the fsb also threatened him with imprisonment unless he sent detailed reports from georgia. and what russian opposition figures there. we're thinking. specifically, on the ukraine war launched in february this year, which forced many kremlin critics into exile. and the f fsb's informant operations, he tells me, into overdrive. >> what does that say to you about what the fears are in moscow about what could happen in the future? >> what are they frightened of? >> russian special services are very well aware of our history. when a huge russian immigrant

community emerges abroad when people speak freely, work on projects to get a, help ukrainian refugees and basically created many russia abroad, which is not under the control of fsb, they are afraid that history will repeat itself. in 1917 vladimir lenin came to moscow and started a russian revolution. they are terrified the regime will be threatened once again by war. >> [speaking non-english] >> it was their opposition to the war that put these to compel them to turn their backs on their fsb. handlers. mikhail even appeared on georgian television, berating the russian regime for which he had spied. >> i texted the fsb guys and told him that they had started this war, that it was horrible. i saw the images online. and they had turned my world upside down. because i not only felt hatred toward the russian government, but towards myself for working for them for all these years. >> it is self hatred and a deep

sense of guilt for the lies and betrayals he says he was forced to make. >> cnn's matthew chance joins us now from london. it's so fascinating to hear from these two. it would seem they are taking a huge risk in speaking out. >> i think they are, generally. they are speaking out and turning your back on the russian security services, the fsb. it's obviously very risky. people have been killed in russia for far less than that. but it is particularly interesting, given the situation we are seeing in russia now, where there's been a crackdown on dissidents and politicians in opposition to the kremlin, an and independent journalists. they have all been more systematically rounded up and have either left the country or have been put in prison. so there really is a climate of fear in the country. to see people like this step forward,

they've left the country -- and speak out -- indicates that despite those risks, there are probably a whole lot of other people in russia as well that have remained silent but share their horror and their anger with the russian state for embarking on this conflict in the ukraine. >> we've certainly seen russians who have left the country getting killed in places they think are safe. in england, and elsewhere, for speaking out. matthew chance, appreciate it. fascinating. the search is over tonight for the second suspect wanted in the string of deadly stabbings in canada. we'll have new details. also, the family of a slain mom, eliza fletcher, releases statement as the man accused of -- what they are saying tonight about the mom, the wife integer was kidnapped while jogging. a live report coming up. her allergy sprays take hours astepro starts working in 30 minutes. so you can...

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were brothers, carried about the attacks on sunday. the youngest victim was 23. the oldest was 78. all but one hour from the indigenous community of james smith cree nation. there is no word on motive or whether the brothers knew any of the victims. now to memphis, where the family of eliza fletcher, who is abducted during an early morning jog, was later found dead, as released a statement. this comes as her accused kidnapper was back in court. gary tuchman joins us now from tennessee. what happened in court today? >> and it's, in the man accused of killing eliza fletcher we suppose have his arraignment in his courthouse behind me. indeed he was in the courtroom. -- so are the news media. by the judge announced he was postponing until tomorrow and that is because he said there was a complication with the public defender representing the defendant. he didn't publicize what that complication was. the judge is to make a decision tonight and announce it warned that everything would be settled in that the rain that can take place while. so, there is no arraignment, no plea. but the court business was

taking care. of the judge acknowledging that this defendant is charged with murdering this woman. also, yesterday, he told us during an arraignment he was charged with kidnapping. in addition, he agreed with the prosecution or quest to get rid of any possibility of bond for right now. that is not surprising based on the nature of the charges. we can tell you this defendant was wearing a mask. he should absolutely no motion whatsoever. eliza has a big family, parents, husband, two small children. she did have aunts and uncles sitting in the court, sitting quietly bearing witness for their loved one. >> and as the family made a statement? >> nothing on camera yet. and that's understandable. but they did release a paper statement. i want to read it to our viewers quickly, anderson. we are heartbroken and devastated about the senseless loss. eliza with such a joy to so many. her family friends, colleagues, students, members have her second presbyterian church congregation and everyone who knew her. we are grateful beyond measure to state and local law enforcement for their tireless efforts to find it eliza and

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