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buckingham palace. we're all day, people have been to leave flowers, share memories, or just be part of history. this is cnn's continuing live coverage of the death of queen elizabeth the second. i'm cristiano lump or in london. the queen saw 14 american president and 15 british prime ministers come and go. the latest, lustrous, who became prime minister just two days ago. their meeting was captured in the final photographs of a monarch who is still working right to the very end. now, her family is in mourning, as the world watches. saying farewell to the queen who is also a mother, a grandmother, a great grandmother. prince charles, now can charles the third, is expected to address the british people in a matter of hours. but, this was the scene outside buckingham palace earlier. a rainbow spreading across the sky as crowds gathered shortly before the death of the queen was announced.
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the queen, who dedicated her life to the service of her people. saw many years ago. >> i declare before you all. with my whole life, that i belong or short, shall be devoted to your service. and to the service of our great imperial family. to which, we all belong. >> that was the occasion of her 21st birthday. a young woman who is not going to be queen. but went on to brain for a remarkable 70 years. and 214 days. it is the longest serving monarch in british history. in fact, in all of recent history. here, with me tonight, cnn correspondent. bianca nobilo. nic robertson. cnn international diplomatic editor is in scotland. cnn correspondent, scott mclain. is that windsor castle. monogram, former department chair of the british museum, is also here in london. that is all just try to make
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sense of what is happening today and what is to come. so, first bianca, you are out there near the palace. it is the longest serving monarch as we just said. how do you think the country is going to react over the next several days and weeks before her funeral. because she has been in office longer than most britons had been alive. >>, i'd expected to see a state of grief manifests. there was a sense of numbness and shock today. as well as a motion. i think that raw motion, will likely bumble to the surface more in the days that we have ahead. many people be descending on buckingham palace. and trying to find outlets for their grief. we have seen photographs of brits all over the world. from california, to australia. going to pumps or places which they associate with britain. to light candles and pay tribute to the queen. because, this is a global outpouring of sadness, grief, and respect for britain's longest serving monarch.
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we heard statements from heads of state, and prime minister's. from australia, to canada, to new zealand, to india. and even just the people on the street. i was just walking up st. james's. across from buckingham palace. and speaking to a man who had moved here from india and said i feel like i've lost my grandmother. that is exactly the same sentiment that was echoed by mick jagger on twitter. saying he felt the nation had left a grandmother. people feel that closeness. and estranged it is. because she is only a family member to the royal family, who are dealing with that personal loss. there is a different kind of personal lost that the public at large feel. because, this is a person that most of them have known their entire lives. through television appearances. through portraits. through the currency they use. through her history. and to what she stands for. so, it will be felt quite profoundly on many levels. >> and i want to say, because there is that those in the
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background. we know that now, all the engineers. all the people who have to do the preparations. they are out building the platforms for the press. that will be used over the next several days. and putting up the flagpole's, that will line what is known as the mall out there. which is the scene, historically, have so much royal pageantry. right outside an opposite of the palace where you are. money greer, let me ask you. you are the former chair of the department of the british museum. you are commentator, you are journalists. you're also american. and you have met the queen. i want to know. how do you feel. how you reflect on how she reached out across the seas. even to america, which clearly, as you all remember. shed the queen and her ancestors so many years ago. >> well, she was, first of all. i think she knew, pretty instinctively. what she had to do. and remember, she was not born
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to be the monarch. she was the eldest daughter of the second side. so, she suddenly, the family found themselves in the position that they were. in and i think she constantly kept her here, and her eye, to the pulse of the country. at the same time, the other thing i've noticed and i've lived here have my life. as you say, former deputy chair of the british museum. and other organizations. you get to see how the british people themselves. have very cleverly invented this family. for themselves. they are the last silent movie actors. so there's a symbiosis. between, particularly. the monarch. the people where she's constantly, constantly, gauging. them they are gauging her. to see who they are. see where she positions herself. it is quite ingenious. if you remember, after diana's
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death. and i was in france at the time. i remember there are people on air saying she had better come back down from where she was. of course, she came down. not only did she come down. she had her back to the mall. where you see all the people. and she talked about being a grandmother, and a mother. that is absolutely spot on in terms of understanding the people who she owe her office to. we can call it hereditary. but actually, it is the will of the british people. this is what the will is. >> that is a really important point which we will get into slightly later. about what, now for the monarchy. what will the will of the people be. i was really just struck by how you describe her and the family as the last asylum movie stars. of course, this is not just about a parochial british issue. they have been cultural
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phenomenon. it's whether it's a netflix drama, to crown, whether it is diplomats, the queen, weather is a play, the audience, whatever it may be. we're gonna be right back, but first nick robinson. nick, you're not far from bomber, you're there in scotland. you're there with the queen died. tell us, tell our viewers, how much balm are resonated? and a little bit of where it started in her love life, if you like. >> but morrow really came to be a place that meant a huge amount to the queen. of course, the queen has had large states and england. in windsor. and it's enduring in the north. but, it seems to be in scotland, at the boma states. it is this wild rugged beautiful scottish countryside. mountains, a river that is rich, or was once upon a time rich with salmon. the reverting. and this was somewhere where she could enjoy the country pursuits that she enjoyed. that her family enjoyed. likes talking, like fishing,
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going up the horses. or driving the land rover. or just walking on the mountains. so this was somewhere that she felt relaxed in. the first minister of scotland. because sturgeon that she had been privileged to be able to see that close-up. and close at hand. for her, for the first minister of scotland. she felt like there would be some solace for the royal family. in knowing that the queen was in a place that gave her happiness. by all accounts, her majesty was really happier than when she was here in scotland. at her beloved bummer. a fact i have been privilege to observe, personally. i hope it will be a source of comfort to her family. that she spent her final days in a place that she loved so much.
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>> it was the queen's great, greats, grandmother. queen victoria, who first set the tradition for royal family to visit and spent time there. it was a castle that was given to her by her husband, prince albert. the queen enjoyed country pursuits. i mentioned there, for example, the fact that the river there. and many of the rivers in scotland have the pleating stocks of salmon. the queen was one of the early adopters of catch and release. she cared about the countryside. she wanted to see the species there that animals, the fish, drive. this was somewhere that she had a passion for. and that so much of her life, as you say, important events there. unfolded. >> but you mentioned that about the salmon fishing. it sounds like maybe a small anecdote. but actually, the family was very head of the time. in the issue of the environment, of the natural world, and so it
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is good to remind us of that. scott mclain you are at windsor castle. which is said to have been the queen's favorite favorite. you've been talking to people all day. what are they saying about her loss and their grief? >> it carson, yeah, i was there before the news broke. and obviously, after it as well. and the crowds just sort of slowly started to swell here. people dropping flowers just at the gate of the castle here. within a couple of hours though, they're asking people to drop them further away. from the castle just outside of another gate of the property. and i think in part because of how many people were coming. it seems like every other person that you came across had a bouquet of flowers with them. what really struck me christiane is how much genuine emotion people are expressing
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for a woman that many of them had never met before. or if they had met them, it was sort of a passing high hello. that kind of thing. brits, to begin, with aren't really well-known for showing a motion. especially publicly. house also struck by some of the handwritten cards and notes that were left outside of the castle gates. you know, some people wrote entire letters, just about what this woman meant to them. some of the words that kept popping up in those letters, and when i spoke to people as well, his duty and service. this is a woman who went about her duty to her country and did her service to her country quietly. and right up until the very last moment. christiane, of this country for a few years now. one of the things that i noticed right off the bat, especially coming from north america. people are not necessarily like buyers. here you will see houses with
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the union jack on. them so brits are not necessarily overtly patriotic. yet, when it comes to the monarchy. the queen. is a unifying force. you have the jubilee, 70 years on the throne, you have other royal events. people break up the bunting. pick up the flags. in ways you just don't see and other parts of society. that is, again, what we saw today. the sense that i got from other people. and you know, i asked a lot of countless people. what the queen really meant to them. one of the answers that i got most often was, she was everything. not just for people personally. but, really for this country as well. >> as you speak, i believe to some unbelievable statistic. like 80% of the british people alive today have only known her. and no other leader. i think that is the stat that we are being reported. which is pretty amazing. now, bianca. i do think it is interesting that you say the british people who are not used to, but are
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not known for the outpouring of emotion. but i think that changed a little bit with the royal family. and the death of princess diana. and we watched the pictures of all those flowers being laid. of, course there are mountains of them being laid for princess diana. i think that was, perhaps, the first amazing display of national grief that this country had seen. in that way. so, it is transmitting now to the queen as well, bianca. we see the photo of queen elizabeth meeting with the new prime minister, let's trust. just a couple of days ago. here is what she said after the queen's death was announced. >> queen elizabeth the second was the rock on which mall modern britain was built. our country has grown and flourished. under her reign. britain, is the great country it is today. because of her >> the, yoga,
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will always have the moment. she will be the last recorded official meeting with the queen. who conducted the last bit of her royal protocol, by appointing the stress. prime minister, two days ago now. it was on tuesday. so, bianca, charles. formerly the prince of wales becomes king. as he ascends the throne. it is a role, of course, he's been preparing for all of his life. he is in his early 70s. what can the british people, perhaps even the world, expect from this transition. from the person of king charles, taking over from the much below person of his mother. >> firstly, christiane, i would say is a peculiar irony that prime minister, lustrous, was the last official to meet with queen elizabeth the second when in her youth shows up in favor of abolishing the monarchy. she's obviously transformed her political beliefs now and is a true conservative favor the
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monarchy. but that journey that she's been on and the admiration she now has for the queen. i think it just speaks to how queen elizabeth ii had the ability to win people over. with her dedication to duty and service. and terms of what the british public can expect from king charles the third? we have some idea. he has a very impressive work ethic. he somebody that wanted to make something of the role of prince of wales. he did not want to wait to become came to try and make a difference. or have a very clear agenda that he was trying to pursue. but because of that, he did flirt with the line between being a political. which demonically is expected to be. and wanting to champion the causes that were important to him. particularly on issues like the environment. so, he took more of an activist approach. obviously, that would have to die now now. and c's. because that isn't the role of the monarch. another difference, which touches on something you just mentioned about the modernization of the monarchy.
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and the increase comfort that they feel and talking about their feelings, sometimes. we've seen that with prince harry. and prince william. is one of the main differences between king charles the third and elizabeth the second. that kim charles, throughout his life. was definitely seen as more human. he has been a points more controversial, he's had difficulties. he had points of unpopularity. certainly, around drama with princess diana. and with his own personal life. where is the queen is considered to be far more above the fray. and beyond reproach to some extent. for king charles the third, that isn't the case. so i think we might see before the progression of a more humanized monarch going forward, christiane. >> it is really fascinating. we will in the days to come. i think we will talk about some of the real family troubles that existed. and the way that that actually, like so many families, did also take place in the royal family.
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of this nation. bonnie, queen elizabeth as we said, was the sovereign of 15 countries. the commonwealth. obviously, she presided over the end of the empire. and the beginning of the commonwealth. what do you think her death will mean to that community of nations far and wide? outside the united kingdom? . i think it depends on the country. it depends, we know australia is preparing for independence. jamaica is talking about it. it will depend on them. i think already, we have seen with charles, he is a man of his time. he will try to hold the commonwealth together. because that is part of the legacy of his family. that is what the british people want as well. however, he will at the same time bend to the will of the commonwealth. and try to keep some kind of alliance together. probably in the shape of the
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eu. in the sense that he is not there king anymore. but they are now part of a family of nations. who will come together, for a particular purpose. remember. people are laughing at him 50 years ago when he talked about talking to his plants. and all of the things that he did. environmentally. now he is spot on. it is going to be, again as i say. the silent. this family of great silent actors. the british people will tell them what they need. they will deliver it. that is how they survived. on the other thing they said is that the queen's first prime minister, was sir winston churchill. born 1875. her last prime minister, was the stress. for 1975. so, this arc of her own sort of magic in a sense. is very much a part of this country.
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in many ways. >> indeed. that is incredible. the way you put it. that century of time that is a lapse between those prime ministers and their birth. body, thank you. >> nick, up in scotland. oversee the formalities really kick dye gear. starting tomorrow. we know that now king charles and the queen consort will be returning to london from bomb are. what can we expect to see over the next few days? and particular when is above the cap to see the queens coffin? what is the queen herself, lie in state. orange is some of the events expected covering over the next several hours and a. >> i think we're a little bit cautious. about giving exact times and details. because these are things that can still change. directing charles can change. that the queen had been perhaps adapting from previous plans even in the last potentially
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few weeks of her life. there are some very key events. some of the major parts will be that the queen will be expected to remain and bomber for a few days. and then, expected, to be taken to edinburgh. and then, expected, after a few more days. to then be taken to london. where she will be expected to lie in state. so, perhaps, we're looking at about a week away from. now before the public, at, large can come and pay their respects socialize and. state tomorrow, of course, each day is going to be full with its -- but to mars unimportant one. as you say can charles in the queen concert coming back to london. contrast expect to meet with the shots, the prime minister. the king expected to give a televised statement to the nation, tomorrow. everyone, of course, we'll be waiting and looking for that. we are expecting sometime
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tomorrow. four bells of churches across the country to wring out. gun salutes in royal parks. members of parliament are expected to be able to go to parliament tomorrow. and speak about their thoughts about the queen. they'll be a prayer service expected as well. at st. paul's cathedral. that is all tomorrow. each day is expected to bring other events. there will be, likely, the meeting of the accession council. which will give that formal accession of king charles to the throne. of course, he is king automatically. but this is a procedural process. there will be a proclamation after that. all of these things are going to become in the coming fortnight or so. >> as you outlined all of that, again it is the way the royal family keeps itself at the heart and center of the people. this thing will play out over several days, as you said. perhaps even a couple of weeks before the state funeral. we don't know. in the meantime, they keep the
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people engaged. by this meticulous rehearsal of choreography. that will last many days. and it will be its own form. somber, but its own form of pomp in the very british royal style. thank you to all of, you will be back later. we, anna, bianca and scott there. and nick, and bonnie. thanks a lot more reaction is coming in tonight from around the world. asas britain, and the world. won the dedeath of the longegest serving monarch. >> we continue to be inspired by the kindness of strangers. and draw comfort, that even on the darkest nights. there is hope in the new dawn. or whatever comes down the road. this is "the planning effect" from fidelity.
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in memory of queen elizabeth's remarkable life. president biden has ordered the flags of the white house and all federal buildings to be flown at half staff and told her burial. tonight, queen elizabeth is being warned all around the world. here is cnn's erica hill. the last days of the queen's life captured who she was in so many ways. working to the very end on the behalf of the people she. loved >> at our final public act, britain's longest serving monarch welcomes the new british prime minister. queen elizabeth the second. was the rock on which modern britain was built. our country has grown and flourished under her reign. britain's the great country it
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is today, because of her. >> crowds gathered in the uk. many with flowers and hand. >> it was very more snow, so i want to pay some respect to the queen. >> i was called tiny elizabeth because was born in the year of the coronation. >> so she's been the only queen of every known and i can't believe it is happened. so quickly. >> as the world paused, in honor of a life dedicated to service. moments of silence at the new york stock exchange. and the un security council. >> u.s. flights ordered to half staff until the queen, is later rest. president biden and the first lady, among the many, world leaders reflecting on her steadying presidents. but also remembering how she charmed us with her wit. moved with her kindness. and generously shared with, us her wisdom. >> in a complicated world. her steady grace.
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and resolve. brought comfort, and strength, to us all. >> she was one of my favorite people in the world. and i will miss her so. >> the eiffel tower sparkling light, dark on thursday night. in tribute. the empire state building, set to shine in purple and silver. tel aviv city hall, a brightly lit union jack. >> it is really sad that the queen died. because she did actually quite a lot. elton john and mick jagger among the rock stars honoring the queen. along with sports greats, nasa, even paddington bear. who famously joined the queen from her platinum jubilee. last spring. >> thank you, for everything. >> that is very kind. >> gratitude for women's dedication to service, and duty, guided her and the nation for decades. >> through thick and thin.
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queen elizabeth the second. provided us with the stability, and the strength, that we need it. she was a very spirits of great britain. that spirits, will endure. >> christiane, the president and first lady also stopping by the british embassy in washington on thursday evening. to pay their respects. inside a condolence book. the president telling the staff, the queen was a, quote great lady. he and the first lady were delighted that they got to meet her. back to you. >> erica, thank you so. much those snapshots that you revealed really make it so poignant as we see so many parts of the world paying tribute, all over, and all those moments of silence as well. thanank you, seven years is. clean but seven decades of change in history. we look at queen elizabeth the second's record on the world stage. right after this answer a few questions and our techno wizardry calculates your car's value and gives you a real offer in seconds when you're ready we'll come to you pay you on the spot and pick up your car
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queen elizabeth the second spent 70 of the 96 years of her extraordinary life on the throne of the united kingdom. she was born in a world view alive today would recognize, she saw her country and the world changed dramatically through wars and a shifting global landscape. for many, she stood for stability on the world stage. joining me now to discuss, it's in bremer. he's president of the eurasian group. he, and welcome to the program.
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you know, we're going to get into the specific details in a minute. but first, you point out that queen elizabeth has ruled for nearly a third of america's entire existence. and she was a beacon of stability in a time of real upheaval. so, when you look ahead, and you try to measure the extent of the loss and what it might mean. as an institution. for the uk and beyond. what are you calculating now? >> president biden said today that she really defined her. and it was a lovely thing to say. but of course, the reality is that queen elizabeth the vines much more than a reality. she goes from a period of great britain on a global stage to britain no longer even as a power inside europe. she's gone to decolonization, she's gone through a period of massive upheaval. on a global stage.
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to the fall of the broken wall. to the collapse of the soviet union. now, of course, with the uk. and by far the worst geopolitical and economic position of the g7 and vans industrial economy. for so many reasons we can talk. about and that period of time she was a singularly politically and culturally unifier. for the united kingdom. i mean, for scotland, for, wales for england, for north ireland. for all four of those nations. not to mention for a lot of the commonwealth. and the monarch's still presides over. but frankly it'll be much more challenging. with a much less popular -- >> i think it is really interesting how you lay that out. particularly, you call or not just a cultural and a social, and a figurehead. but the political force. i, mean of course, we know that formerly. they're not political. she's a constitutional monarch, she's got her hands involved at
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all in any government to politics. so explain to, me because it's true, but explain how her presence was also political. >> one example of this very critical. because so many of us look at the united kingdom wonder it's even going to exist as a country. in ten years. time given the challenges with scotland. the challenges with northern ireland. and the impact that brexit aside. you have may remember, christiane, are in fact i think you. do back in 2014. just before the referendum on scottish independence. the queen urged people to think very carefully about their future. that was a cautious but it was a highly unusual intervention. in a public debate. and it seemed to make a difference, precisely because of our popularity above politics if you will. inside scotland itself. if king charles had been there at the time. it would've been a very
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different story. scott was not about to have a referendum tomorrow, it's not about -- but as we look forward over the coming years. this is going to be a much more challenging issue and we can talk about commonwealth countries like australia, where the prime minister himself has a labor party that has just to be clear, when you say a pro republican stance. that the kingdom itself is in danger, we know the majority of brexit voters set at one point that they were willing to see the kingdom disintegrate as a price to get brexit done. i want to ask you because we have a war in europe right now and she obviously spends the whole of europe between the second world war when fascism my at dominated over democracy and international law, and now we have that happening and the danger that in europe, obviously on the battlefield of ukraine. talk a little bit about whether it's britain or what, the real
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stakes that are on the table right now in our world order. >> of course, queen elizabeth was part of the fight, she was a mechanic. during world war ii she was part of the fight against fascism, which is an extraordinary and staggering to think about the span of her lifetime and what she saw and who she was there with. you think about truman, you think about stolen as leaders. of course, at the time when she first became queen. i think that the challenge today of the end of a 30-year peace dividend on the european continent, a new cold war with elements of hot war with europe and russia and 27 european union countries unanimously a greeting to accept ukraine as a member, in other words
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embracing the idea that war in new crane is a european war. this is a radical change in how we think about economic growth and the critical necessity of the european spending under security and also rely on the americans for the transatlantic alliance and for nato. liz truss has been thrust into a country that has been governed in a shambolic way for the past years with all of these scandals and massive international challenges, and she started off with this enormous fiscal package to try to get the british economy and citizens to rebound and all of that has been completely overtaken by what will be weeks of rolling coverage on the queen's death. i of course, there will be unity with the coronation with the morning in the uk, but this is going to be a very hard thing for a prime minister trusts the governor.
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>> it really will be, and as you say, without that unifying and -- of the queen, it will be more difficult. it raises the stakes, that her absence coincides with. ian bremmer, thank you so much. and you pay minister, a war in europe, record inflation and now a new king, we will look at this time of change for the uk. more detail at this. (vo) a thin painted line. the only thing between you and a life-changing accident. but are these linenes enough? a subaru with eyesightht... (kid vo) hey dad! (vo) ...watches the lines foror any danger... and can automatically stop itself. (mom) is everyone ok? (kid) i'm ok. (vo) your family is safer in a three-row subaru ascent. love. it's what makes subaru, subaru.
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a remarkable to this indian that a kingdom. and new prime minister, the loss of a cherished queen and her son is not king charles the third. what will his reign look like and what is the relationship with the new prime minister going to be? >> joining me now is the journalist -- thank you for joining us. i know you have been looking into these questions and covering this for a long time, so what do we expect? what can we expect after 70 years to have a change in the guard, to have a nuking at a time, particularly, that is so fraud are now? >> a new king, a new prime minister at a time when every
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single one of the headlines in the front pages tell you something about social inequality, about the cost of living crisis, about inflation. you turned the page to international news, and it tells you something about war, about the vision, about the refugee crisis, about so many things happening in the world, and what does together tell you, as the queen knew so well is that what happens nationally and what happens internationally are profoundly interrelated. there's a new prime minister. there's a new monarch. that is the way the world. it's the system. here in britain, we call this an omni shambles, lots of bad things happening at the same time and a huge amount of doubt. what you see on the streets of london is not people weeping and wailing but shock. you see them give a sober reflection because i think we all understand is the end of an era, not just because we like the queen but politically too. >> indeed, and as you are talking about the headlines, we were showing the pictures of
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newspapers something that is states, obviously, here in britain as well, all have her reign and her image on the front of -- the washington post pointing out that she was a pillar of duty and devotion. now that we have a king charles the third, and he will be making his speech, his first speech to the nation later on friday, on friday evening, in london. i wonder, he is 70 plus, he has made some rather popular interventions on important issues that young people care about, the climate is one of them. what do you make no evident crushingly diverse britain, there's a young, young population as well. how will society play out for the majority of people in this new era of king charles? >> your own footage has been so
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incredibly eloquent, particularly in central london. you see how racially diverse the crowds, particularly the young people are when they lay their roses and flowers and remembrance. young people today expect celebrities, including royalty, to be activists and have a point of view, to fight for a better world. prince charles, king charles, he was very quirky. he was a front runner in talking about past unfashionable things like the environment and town planning and building a road we can all live in. i actually think the ten and 11-year-olds of today would quite like this slightly out, very sincere, sober, 19th century character. you can't say that he has not served disappoint and shipped. you cannot say that he does not love his mother. you can't say that he has waited in the wings and learned the ropes because he has been standing shoulder by shoulder by her for decades now. >> that is and really important look and take on what we might expect from prince charles.
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thank you so much indeed -- king charles. much more of our special coverage of the death of queen elizabeth when we come back. step up. prep up. to help keep you free from the risk of hiv. descovy for prep, the smallest prep pill available, is a once-daily prescription medicine that helps lower the chances of getting hiv through s. it'sot for everyone. descovy for prep has not bee studied in people assigned female at birth. talk to your doctor to find out if it's right for you. descovy is another way to prep. descovy does not prevent other sexually
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president joe biden speaking about queen elizabeth ii today after stopping at the british embassy. >> i just stopped by the british embassy to sign a condolence book in her honor. i had the opportunity to meet her before she passed. she was incredibly gracious decent women. our thoughts and prayers of the
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american people are with the people of the net akin gum and the commonwealth and the grief. >> a woman of constancy, a woman of faith, stay with us, queen elizabeth as passed away at the age of 96. we'll have more from our special coverage live here from london after this. and that we sell cars online. what you probably didn't know is that we're in the business of making you happy. we believe buying a car should be something that gets you hyped up. that you should be empowered to shohop when you want, where you want, wearing whatever y you want. and that your new car ought to come with newfound happiness. and zero surprises. so we promise that we'll treat you right. we'll put you in control. and all of us will stop at nothing to drive you happy. we'll drive you happy. at carvana.
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