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♪ the first official rendition of "god save the king" being sung at st. paul's cathedral upon the death of queen elizabeth ii. a service of prayer and reflection, ending shortly here in london. i am joined by my colleagues, christiane amanpour and max foster. max, you broke the news on cnn that the official "god save the
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king" would be sung at this service, and there it is. >> not sung since the 1950s, and we're going to keep hearing that for the next three generations because we have three generations of kings coming a lock. as christiane was saying, everything is changing in terms of language around the uk because her name was on everything, from passports to money, to the letter boxes that christiane was talking about earlier on. that's a really defining moment to have "god save the king" sung in the high church, arguably, of the united kingdom, st. paul's cathedral. >> a fairly straightforward service, but wen ending with "god save the king". people were moved. obviously they're sad. but i think the most emotional thing we saw today was the king himself delivering his message to his subjects. the first time we've heard him speak as king of england -- the united kingdom, i should say.
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>> indeed, and it was a very good speech and it also showed emotion and it showed that he has had practice in public speaking and he's much more comfortable as it than the queen was, despite her long time in office. you see the modulation of his voice, you hear the emotion in his voice. it's not how the queen did it. she delivered it in a very unemotional way, and i think that bodes well. it was a dignified speech. it touched on all the important issues. he said at the very beginning, i pay tribute to my darling mama, a life well lived, a promise with destiny and duty kept. and that's the bottom line. and he pledged himself to continue the prerogative of the constitutional monarchy under the democratic system whereby he would not be taking on any -- either voicing any political or other kind of views and he would absolutely follow in his mother's footsteps in terms of keeping within the parameters of the democratic system.
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>> i want us to hear now from the king where he mentioned lifelong service, his commitment to lifelong service, fulfilling that commitment that his mother made. let's listen. >> queen elizabeth was a life well lived, a promise with destiny kept, and she is mourned most deeply in her passing. that promise of lifelong service i renew to all today. >> so, again, you talked about he renews that to his mother, he knows that life will be interesting and different as we move forward, as they move forward. >> it's a job for life for him as it was for his mother. that's what he's saying there. i was touched by him, he mentioned the family, which we
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can talk about in a moment and the titles that william will have. but he was reaching out, so he was reaching out to other communities and groups. he said, wherever you live in the united kingdom or in the realms and territories across the world and whatever may be your background or belief, my social endeavor is to serve you with loyalty, respect and love as i have throughout my life. i think there's an acknowledgment there, he's talked about some of the tensions across the commonwealth and suggestions, i think, frankly, that when the queen passes some of those realms may break away. what he's saying is it's your choice, you do what you feel is right, but i will try to serve you. i thought that was quite interesting. >> max, i really do believe that we have to have this conversation right now, even at this moment. >> different demographics, different people were listening for different reasons. >> and look what he said, in the 70 years of her being on the throne, many cultures and faiths have flourished in these past seven decades, but it is
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ongoing, particularly in the wake of black lives matter and particularly in the protests that erupted all over the world after what happened in minnesota, here as well, in france and other parts of these nations that had colonial servants, let's face it. people were in service to this empire. the wealth of this empire was derived on the back of the people of their empire. >> on display in the palace. >> on display everywhere and in the crown and everywhere. what he was saying is that there is the generation of multicultural and diverse brittains who want this answered, who want to see their monarch finally talk about what it means and, you know, potentially the idea of reparations, definitely justice. and i think prince harry, and you know this better than me -- sorry, prince william, he talked about it, having been criticized for a trip he made in the caribbean, a colonial legacy, that we must have this
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discussion and it must be up to those countries. but it also has to be had in this country as well. >> do you think he's committed to that? i was around him recently and he expressed sorrow for brittain's role in the slave trade. this is going to be a part of the monarchy, to try to reach out. they can't apologize, the government has to do that. but they can reach out to them and change the way -- the issue with prince william's trip, the way they flew in, the back of the land rover. they had local children reaching through a fence. that i think will change with prince charles, now king charles, he campaigns on that. >> i want to talk about harry and meaghan because he did mention that and they have had their issues with the family over the last couple of years. but he said -- and we'll talk about william assuming the responsibility of the prince of
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wales, catherine as well. but he said i want to express my love for harry and meaghan as they build their lives overseas. >> off the back of a conversation about prince william. he's making them equal in the speech, which i thought was really interesting. he was reaching out and saying they're very important and hopefully they can build those bridges and hopefully it could be a catalyst, actually, for the family to regroup. giving prince william the title of prince of wales was expected, but not quite so soon. but that moment when he said it, that's when he bestowed that title. so kate becomes the princess of wales and she spoke to a source and pointed out that she's aware of the history of that title, diana's title, of course. she wants to make that title her own as well. >> and we have pictures, of course, of king charles meeting with now his prime minister, liz truss. it happened in the palace behind us earlier before his prerecorded speech was
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broadcast. and we know that this country is in the throws of the worst economic crisis, the highest inflation, the most unrest in terms of workers striking. it's a huge issue. and liz truss has promised to unveil an energy program for the people of this country who are very, very worried. here are the pictures. there you go. and it appears that there's going to be some kind of -- are they talking? >> if we can back that up. we would like to hear that. i don't know if you can re-rack it. we would like to hear what they're saying, if that's possible. >> in any event, this is massively, massively important .
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>> it's small talk. i can't really make out what they're saying. >> the bottom line is the people of this country before the queen died have been desperately anxious about the cost of living, about what energy bills will be this winter, and she was planning to unveil this week her energy plan, which will cost potentially around 150 billion pound mark. this may be on hold for the next several days and it's quite urgent to get this all passed. so the role of the monarchy also is to be there in times of crisis. and, boy, has king charles arrived in times of maximum crisis, and boy is prime minister liz truss having a baptism by fire right now. >> a unique bond, how they've come together. just before that, he was obviously out on the grounds
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here meeting people. we can show those images as well. for me, that was quite defining, i think, because he wanted to know he had the public support. and i think all the commentary i'm seeing from the likes of the caliber of christiane amanpour, they're all saying the same thing about the speech. it went down incredibly well. and combined with the fact that the public are there and came out with him, i think he will feel heartened by that. the one thing i will say about the speech is there's another part i want to pull out, which is my life will of course change as i take up my new responsibilities. >> can we listen to that and then i'll let you respond to it? >> yes. >> let's play it. >> my life will, of course, change as i take up my new responsibilities. it will no longer be possible for me to give so much of my time and energies to the charities and issues for which i care so deeply. but i know this important work
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will go on in the trusted hands of others. >> this is absolutely central. the great concern about king charles is that he's a divisive character who is going to continue campaigning and getting involved in political issues as he has done in the past. he's saying very clearly there, i'm no longer going to do that. i'm putting that behind me. it was the one thing that could undermine his monarchy. he's basically saying i understand, i'm not going to do that and it's going to be hard for him because he cares deeply about those issues. i think that's a really central point to that speech. >> i want to bring in zain asher, julia chatterley and tricia goddard. z z zain, it was a very short speech but he got a whole lot in the
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moments that he spoke. >> and christiane brought up such an important point, this idea of how the royal family, how this family grapples with its history and legacy of colonialism, of slavery, of the potential paying of reparations is a really important one and i think that king charles understands his job is as a monarch, but he's also an anchor for this commonwealth. and i think that christiane or max referenced the idea that you have states like barbados, caribbean nations like barbados, still a member of the commonwealth but declaring that the queen is no longer their head of state. the next country that is feared to sort of follow in barbados' footsteps is jamaica. christiane, you referenced the protests we saw when william and kate -- by the way, who are supposed to be some of the more popular royals, we saw protests against them in jamaica. and there's fears that there is this clarion call for republicanism across various
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caribbean and commonwealth countries. so i think that king charles is ascending to the throne at a crucial moment, at a moment when so many people of color are asking difficult questions, complicated questions about the royal family's legacy and history in various parts of the world. so that is really key. >> i think that's a really important point. it's a really important point. we were just saying beforehand as well, prince charles edited the voice 40th anniversary just before, i think, last week, and that was very much a step in that direction, to say that i will be a king of all people. christiane, when you mentioned exactly, i couldn't agree with you more, black lives matter and everything that came from that, i think that charles is really putting that to the floor. i just wanted to add, i don't know about you, when he
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mentioned camilla, my lwife of 7 years, we were talking about how recently it was the anniversary of prince ss diana's death and there are people who still have issues around the whole charles and camila thing. mentioning her having been by his side for 17 years and already given so selflessly, i think that was as much of a bomb as mentioning harry and meaghan. it's kind of like let me put aside these controversies before they even rear their heads. i do think it was an excellent speech. >> she's not the other woman anymore. >> he realized a lot was on the line in that speech. go ahead, julia. >> i was just saying that, you know, he's sort of trying to let people know she's not the other woman anymore. this is my wife and, by the way, my wife of nearly two decades, and so many people still associate, for better or worse,
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king charles with what happened with princess diana. i think the british public is no longer at the forefront of everyone's minds, but they haven't fully forgiven him for that. he was not the best husband to princess diana and that is putting it mildly. you think about the depression and the bulimia and this feeling that princess diana continued to intimate that the royal family did not simply have her back in her worst of moments. people remember that. >> i think he sounded like a king and that's actually the highest compliment that i can pay to him at this moment. and these were some of the questions that we were asking in this first moment that we heard from him. and, actually, i think it was pretty pitch perfect for all the reasons we've described, my life is going to change, the nod to camila, the fact that he was inclusive about the family of realms, as you've discussed. he ticked every box. but i think for me, and it rings back to the reason why he's making this speech, and that is not only was he speaking as a king, but he was also speaking as a father, that he was
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speaking as a son. and actually the end for me was the most pivotal part of that when he talked about, and i know i keep talking about this, but this idea now that she's on her path back to her husband and in some way the family -- and they are very religious and that obviously came through in this, which was a ceremony about the queen and her choices. it was about them being back together and i think he got a great balance between acknowledging, being deferential to queen elizabeth and also being a son that does feel this profound sense of loss. we got emotion and sentiment and in a very different way, i think, from his mother. so, for me, any strongly in a different way up until now about king charles iii, early days, i think this was a great speech for many reasons. >> well, julia, i was going to say, listen, i think he's worked
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hard to change his image after what happened with diana, and the other thing that you mentioned, the end of his speech where he talked about -- he referred to them as mama and papa, let's listen and then we can discuss. here it is. >> queen elizabeth was a life well lived, a promise with destiny kept, and she is mourned most deeply in her passing. that promise of lifelong service i renew to all today. as you begin your last great journey to join my dear late papa, i want simply to say this, thank you. thank you for your love and devotion to our family and to
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the family of nations you have served so diligently all these years. may flights of angels sing thee to thy rest. >> not normally a very emotional guy, but definitely there you felt the emotion. yos voice, too. and that was the moment for me, the goose bump moment where i actually got a frog in my throat, too, because i think you could see in his eyes and his voice that he knows he has to be the king now, he knows that he has to step into this role and he does have big shoes to fill. but it was also about a son feeling profound loss and this idea that the comfort that you take from that is that now his mama and papa, as he did call them, are once again reunited. >> and i think he also covered the whole generational of
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handing on the baton. i don't know about you, it felt a little sad about handing over cornwall, that he mentioned the number of years that he had that role and the titles. it's almost like good-bye to my old life, i'm handing it on to my son, and then talking about mama and papa. there was very much that handing on the baton and i guess messages of continuity. >> i know yhe said the word mommy, which i'm proud of him, too. don, back to you. >> listen, christiane amanpour, your name has been invoked. i was turning to christiane. your name has been invoked several times. quickly wrap this up for us. >> look, i'm also going to say that it is not a secret that he was a lonely little boy. his mommy and his daddy were constantly on business of the empire of the country when he was a little boy, the oldest
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child, and left with nannies and all the rest of it for many, many months. he had a pretty rocky relationship with his parents at the beginning and only really developed this strong bond as he grew older and as he grew into knowing that he was going to be king one day and that he perhaps could understand better the older he got, the duties and the pressures of his parents. but it wasn't easy by all accounts of those who have writte childhood. >> to wrap up this part of the conversation, we are not done yet, we have a lot more to cover. thanks to the folks in new york. stand by as well. still ahead, reaction to king charles' speech from the people he serves and we're going to dig deeper into what the king said about his sons, william and harry. our coverage continues right after this quick break. you'd n.
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here in london, a day steeped in emotion and tradition as king charles paid tribute to queen elizabeth, his darling mama, as he called her. in his first speech as monarch, king charles vowed to continue his mother's promise of lifelong service to their country and to the commonwealth, and at st. paul's cathedral, prayers and tears for elizabeth ii. mourners packing the pews to say farewell to the queen and for the first time in over 70 years
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singing "god save the king". i want to get some reaction to all of this from the british people. scott mclean has been talking to folks gathered at windsor castle. hello to you. what are they saying? >> reporter: hey, don. well i want to take you around and talk to them quickly. these two ladies have heard the speech, listened to it, seen it. what did you think? >> i thought it was a really sincere speech. it must have been so hard for him at a time like this to do that. first of all, i would like to offer all of our condolences to our new king charles and all of his family at this time. we thought the speech was great. he's got really big shoes to fill, so it will be difficult. it seems like he's going to give it his best shot. >> what stood out to you? >> i was just happy that he mentioned harry.
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>> huge rift in the family. a lot of people noticed that. thank you both. i appreciate it. there's a couple more people who have heard the speech. what did you think of charles' first speech as king? >> i think he did very well, actually. i think he was loyal, devoted and he's carried out his mom's legacy. he's promised to serve the nation. >> were you nervous at all before this? >> no, he's going to be a very good king, very good king. >> when you saw him back at the palace engaging with the public there, i haven't seen him engage as much as he did there, and i actually think he definitely is going to follow his mom's legacy. and you know the family, he loves the family to bits, and his mom, especially. he was so close with her. >> charles not as popular as his son, not as popular as queen elizabeth was. do you think this is going to be reassuring to people who have doubts? >> after what he did at buckingham palace, definitely. >> i think after his speech a
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lot of people changed their minds. >> the queen is a hard act for anybody to follow, to be honest. >> quickly, don, i'll take you over here. i have good insights from these ladies. what did you think of the speech? >> i think he delivered it really well. i think he done her proud, the queen proud, and i think he's going to do really well. >> did anything stand out to you in particular? >> yeah, we spoke a little while ago, i mentioned that i like that harry was mentioned. i feel -- yeah. >> i think a lot of people are probably reassured by that, trying to bridge the gap. and i know your daughter sophia has a lot of thoughts on this as well. what did you think of the speech? >> i thought it was really thoughtful, caring, and that he wants to do a good job and take over for his mother. >> do you think he'll be a good king? >> yeah. >> absolutely. >> thank you for talking to us. we appreciate it.
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>> reporter: don, i think the overarching message is when you really talk to people and when you really push them, they'll say, look, of course there are some reservations about how king charles might do, but things like this, i think, are going a long way to sort of reassure the british public about their new king. >> thank you. listening to the people there. i want to bring in kate williams and sally smith. thank you both. i appreciate you joining us. listen, let's talk about the mention of harry and meaghan in the speech. you heard people there on the streets saying, i'm so happy that he mentioned harry. what he said was, he said, i want to express my love for harry and meaghan as they build their lives overseas. were you surprised that he mentioned that? did your ears perk up, kate? >> well, his mention of harry and meaghan was one of the last things he said. he was talking about family, the inspiration of william and kate and he said i want to express my love for them.
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i think that's significant. i think charles is making an important statement here. many of your commentators have been talking wonderfully about the important statements he's been making about his role as king, service to the commonwealth, that he won't be a campaigning king and that he hopes to follow in his mother's tradition of duty and service. but i think here he was saying very much he loves the family, they are a loving family, and i think very much he wishes to support harry and meaghan going forward. and let's hope that will translate into perhaps a little more support when they get criticism, because i think that has been one of the problems in the past, that it hasn't really been forthcoming. and i think that lilibet and archie are now prince and princess if they wish to be because they are grandchildren of the king and i think they are very close in the succession. seeing them brought into the family fold, i think, would be really very strong and important. of course, harry rushed there
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yesterday, didn't quite get there in time. i hopefully see this as the beginning of a new chapter in terms of not just the relationship with the royal family's relationship, but the media's. the king has said i love harry and meaghan and perhaps we could ease off on some of the criticism. >> sally, i paraphrased. let's listen and i'll get your response. here it is. >> as my heir, now assumes the scottish titles, which have meant so much to me, with catherine beside him, our new prince and princess of wales i know will continue to inspire and lead our national conversations, helping to bring the marginal to the center ground where vital help can be given. i want, also, to express my love for harry and meaghan as they continue to build their lives
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overseas. >> so, sally, william has become the next in line to the throne and the line of succession includes prince george, princess charlotte and prince luis. how will this change their responsibilities, do you think? >> well, i think william has been training for years to be the prince of wales. i think the surprise was that he was given the title this quickly. there's no reason why he shouldn't have been. he's been learning about the dutch of cornwall for a number of years, he went to a sustainable agriculture course at cambridge that is funded by the prince of wales. it's one of his charities. he has regularly gone to meetings, he is very, very well trained to take on that role. and, also, the role of the prince of wales, which is the main role, although the duke of
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cornwall has the duchi, which is a huge fund of property and big responsibilities. and so i think that was significant that he made him the prince of wales, also that catherine is -- she was expected to be, but he mentioned her as the princess of wales. camila has always had that title of princess of wales, but for obvious reasons she has never used it. kate will have all kinds of latitude to really remake that title as her own. >> kate, for the first time we heard "god save the king" today and it's going to be a long time before we hear "god save the queen" again. since princess charlotte is way
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down the line, are people thinking about that change as well? >> yes, it's very unlikely we'll see another queen in my lifetime. we have charles now, then william, then george. and as you say, princess charlotte is next. previous to 2013 she would not have been. in 2013 the law was changed to be in birth succession, not sex first. but i think it's very unlikely that we will see another queen. we will never, i don't think, hear "god save the queen" ever again. we've been watching the television and lots of us commentating and lots of people have been really, i think, finding it quite difficult to transition from prince charles to king charles, and it is a quick transition. i noticed that the prince and princess of wales, that's their official social media account. everything is changing in the royal family and it is now "god save the king" and we will soon see the king on coins, bank
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notes, and it will be, in terms of the armed forces, his majesty's armed forces. it is a formal transition and charles paid great and enduring tribute to the queen, her life of service, and made it clear he wishes to be very similar in terms of dedication, but also a bit different in some of his approaches. >> if we can put up the photo of the succession again, because prince louis is right there in the middle, and he stole the jubilee. everyone fell in love with him and loved his personality so it's fitting that he stands out in the middle there. so there you go. thank you, both. i appreciate it. with us, the queen's former press secretary, simon lewis. thank you so much for joining us once again. what stood out most to you from the king's speech? >> interesting, i think it was the transition point. i think the fascinating thing about the monarchy is it's constantly evolving and here we have a new king but we also have
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a new prince and a princess of wales. and i think one of the things that fascinates people about the monarchy is that it's a family in transition. and as we just heard for prince william, it's going to be a major increase in responsibilities. i think the fact that the king took the opportunity to say he'll be relinquishing some, these are big projects. the prince has been passionate about these for 25 years and i'm assuming these will go to prince william. these are major changes, and entirely right, given as he said, i thought the choice of words was very interesting, his new responsibilities. but i have to say, it was an incredibly well judged speech given the circumstances. i think all the issues that people wanted to hear about he covered and he covered elegantly. >> our correspondent, scott mcclean was out speaking to folks a moment ago. someone said she's a tough act to follow, it's hard to live up to what queen elizabeth ii did and her reign. he mirrored some of his mother's
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language, talking about lifelong service. how will his reign be different? >> well, don, he's going to be his own person. i think this is another feature of the monarchy, every monarch takes a slightly different approach. he's obviously been waiting a long time for this. he's had a very full life as the prince of wales. he's thought carefully about what he wants to do. he's observed his mother, he's observed the constitution as it's evolved, and i think he will ease himself into it. clearly this is a country with challenges in front of it and i thought it was fascinating that today was the first audience we've seen him public, the prime minister and the king. that's going to be central, the way they work together and communicate with each other. but my sense from today, and it's just today, is there's enormous goodwill toward the new king amongst the british people and that probably is the most important factor of all. >> simon lewis, appreciate your time, once again. thank you so much. coming up, the challenges
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here in the united kingdom, as king charles addressed the nation and mourners gather at st. paul's cathedral in honor of the memory of his mother, elizabeth ii. another first today, king charles held his first official audience with the prime minister, liz truss, who is almost as new at the job as he is. charles was overheard telling truss that the death of his mother was a moment that he had been, quote, dreading. no doubt. back with me now, max foster and christiane amanpour. let's talk about that. we were trying to figure out what they were saying a little bit ago. >> we were listening so hard and couldn't pick it up. it's kind of small talk but it's obvious, he said the moment i was dreading, as i know so many people have been dreading. and he greeted his first prime minister. but what i think is really interesting is that this is not just a crisis of a passing of an
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era. is it a crisis? no, it's the passing of a torch, and after 96 years of a life well lived, and a promise with destiny kept, as he paid tribute to his mother. but this country is in a state of crisis and there's no getting away is in a state of crisis. he talked in his speech about how his mother had come to her reign right in the midst of the worst privation and devastation of world war ii. now we're in the midst of the world inflation, cost of living in decades, strikes, you know, by workers and things like that. it's very uncertain times, and certainly the prime minister has to deal with it, and so their first days in office are colliding. >> let's talk about this. we have a picture, this is when she was crowned 1952, winston churchill. churchill was the prime minister at the time. tumultuous time then, tumultuous
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time now. >> it's true. there's comparisons to be made. the queen, this time, was post war. the empire had crumbled, countries were breaking away. she rebuilt from that, and that's the opportunity for prince charles to do now. we were talking about the prince of wales, we know him as prince william. he has changed his title on all of his official social media accounts. we know him as that, and what's interesting about that, we're going to see a new prince of wales because he's now independent. back in 1337, when the estate was set up the heir to the throne to be financially independent. it is across 20 counties in southwest england, 130,000 acres of land, and that money now goes into prince william. and that was the money his father, you know, his father had that before, was financing him through that. now he's got the entirety of
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that estate, and that's tens of millions of pounds a year that he is able to use for his work and for his life, and i think that's going to really give prince william that independence he didn't have before. he always had to go to prince charles to ask for money before. >> yeah, this is what's odd. you get the title, you get the money, but you lose a loved one when this succession happens. that's an odd place to be. >> i mean, it is but she was 96 years old. i mean, let's be honest, she lived a great life. her batteries just ran down. she didn't have, as far as we know, any cataclysmic, you know, illness, any terrible accidents. she passed away peacefully with her family as many as possible around her side, and having been a working woman to the very end. for 70 years, she was the hardest working mother that this country knows, and she, you know, did her duty to the end. and in a way, it's a wonderful
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way to depart this life. >> in balmoral, as well. >> in the place she loved most, her happy place. people in the royal circle had heard that there was a view within the royal circle that he would never leave balmoral, she was not coming back from balmoral this year. this is where she had gone. >> we talked earlier, why would she. the real issue now, and of course we're going to go through the pomp, the circumstance, you know, the incredible stuff that only britain does in these moments of transition, whether they be solemn or whether they be joyful like jubilees and the like, they do it so well here, and everything is laid out in minute detail. this is a passing of the torch for all of the reasons we said, whether it's the economic crisis, whether it's a new, frankly, a new formation of the monarchy, whatever have to be, a new relationship with the people, a more modern relationship with the fepeople.
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a relationship that is not 30,000 or 50,000 feet above. it has to be addressing the very real issues here and around the world as we discussed with the legacy from the commonwealth and colonialism. >> i'm going to play the readout that we had of liz truss and king charles, and then we'll get reaction. here it is. >> it's been so touching this afternoon. all those people. very kind. you know what i've been dreading is there are a lot of people here. >> the microphones picked it up. obviously he's dreading. obviously he's dreading this day. >> it's interesting that he speaks so open about it, isn't it. we saw that emotion at the end of the speech. we saw emotion there. of course he's emotional, his mother has just died. the queen would never have expressed emotion like that. i think we're seeing a softer,
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touchy feely monarchy, he wants to stick to the queen's principles in terms of the way she ruled. he's going to be softer, more connected with people, more expressive. it's a gamble. the queen had a strategy. she deliberately didn't show emotion in public or opinions. and that meant that she was always undivisive. >> there was a moment where he could be less buttoned up and more human and emotional, it is this moment when you lose your mother and you have the weight of the crown. >> it was a very good maiden speech. >> thank you, both. it's an honor to sit here, and be with you. thank you so much. there's a lot more ahead on the death of queen elizabeth and what happens next. my colleague victor blackwell will pick up coverage right after this break.
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