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this is don lemon tonight, and we've got news on two big stories tonight. we're live here at buckingham palace in london home to the new monarch, king charles iii. and there's news moments ago back home on the mar-a-lago investigation. they've submitted their proposals to a federal judge for who should serve as special master to review materials from mar-a-lago and how the process should work. it is the latest legal turn in the criminal investigation into trump's potential mishandling of documents. so i want to bring in now cnn
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senior justice kraunlt evan perez, and senior legal analyst and former federal prosecutor, laura coates. welcome back to the program, both of you. evan, you just received these documents. tell us more you're learning. they have nominated both sides who they think should be special master, and there's also other details in there. >> right, don. they've submitted two names each. obviously they couldn't agree who should be the special master. the judge is going to have to decide that. i'll come back to those names in a minute, but there's major disagreement obviously which is not surprising between the two sides. the government says the special master should not be able to look at classified documents, should not be able to decide what is executive privilege and what isn't. of course the trump team says that is the whole point of this and of course this is what the special master should be able to do to review all the documents, more than 1,000 pages, more than 100 documents that are classified that were seized as part of the search of mar-a-lago. a couple other points of
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disagreement, the government wants this to be wrapped up ipabout five weeks. trump and his team says three months is what they're envisioning, a much bigger delay. and of course the government says trump team should pay the cost of the special master. and the trump team says they should split that cost. the names of the four lawyers that they recommended, former retired judge barbara jones who is doing the special master review of rudy giuliani's investigation, also documents from the rudy giuliani investigation. she also did the michael cohen case. the former retired judge, again, from the district court in d.c. circuit whose name is tom griffith. and on the trump side they're recommending ramon deery, a former chief judge in the eastern district of new york, and paul huck jr. who is a former jones day partner, jones day representative of the trump campaign in 2016.
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some close republican ties right there. don? >> laura, i want to bring you in now. what about this issue of clearances that's been so critical for all of this? what could any of this mean? >> just think about this. we're talking about tumts of the highest security level, the highest classification levels. there were agents on the scene we've been told in the reporting that weren't even able through their own clearances to review what they may be taking from mar-a-lago. the idea you're going to have get someone not only up to speed in the review as evan was talking about, but be authorized to see the documents, go through a security clearance including anyone who may be assisting the special master. notice the dates here evan talked about. the government set the deadline of october 17, 2022, while the trump team three months. think about where the mid-term elections fall here. the doj hoping to have this included in the review prior to
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the mid-term election. it's been a point of contention for quite some time and of course there's the unspoken rule in the doj of not wanting to interfere in the election. of course trump is not on the ballot so that likely won't be an issue here. this all comes down to trust. the idea for special masters they don't believe the individual vetting process and the team in place to review criminal details from doj is trustworthy, and we have that order of a special master from the judge allowing for that mistrust to continue. and as evan points out, they have provided in this particular joint agreement and motion they know there will be disagreement even down on the line on the very basic things. if they have a quick review before the mid-term elections who knows the impact of that. >> yeah, well, i mean they said they want it quickly at least one side does. so, evan, there's the appeals process as well that needs to
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play out. >> that's right, don. the justice department is looking to appeal on thursday if they don't get this judge to pause or at least put aside her ruling from last week, which prevented the justice department from even being able to -- and the fbi from even being able to look at the 100 documents that -- i think there's more than 100 documents that are classified that the justice department, the fbi says they need to keep investigating. they need to know, you know, those documents that had the folders, the pore more than four dozen folders that were labeled classified but had no documents in them. they're trying to figure what happened to those documents, was something exposed? do they need to take mitigation measures to protect sources and methods? all those things need to happen and are not happening. right now they're on hold because that judge issued that order last week. so they're asking her to put that aside, and she's going to take a look at that in the next few days. >> all right, evan, thank you
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very much. laura, thank you as well. laura, we'll see you at the top of the hour. laura will be anchoring the next hour here on cnn. charles will be officially proclaimed as monarch. more tonight from cnn's royal correspondent max foster. >> reporter: in a prerecorded address to the nation and the commonwealth king charles iii renewed the pledge made by his mother more than 75 years ago. speaking for the first time in sovereign charles reached out to all religions and creeds. he played a glowing tribute to wife camilla and bestowed his former title as prince of wales to his son william, making kate the princess of wales. he expressed his love for harry and meghan. most powerfully and holding back tears he addressed his mother directly. >> to my darling mamaas you
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begin your last great journey to join my dear late papa i want simply to say this, thank you. thank you for your love and devotion to our family and to the framamily of nations you ha served so diligently all these years. may flights of angels sing thee to thy rest. >> reporter: throughout the day on friday bells tolled, flags lowered and guns saluted. paying respects to the life and the legacy of queen elizabeth ii. the u.k.'s newly appointed prime minister liz truss offered newly anointed king charles the support of an unusually quiet and somber parliament.
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>> the crown endures. our nation endures. and in that spirit i say god save the king. >> reporter: the king greeted well wishers outside buckingham palace to a chorus of the national anthem. ♪ he retired to buckingham palace where he held his first audience with the prime minister and for the first time the royal standard flew above in his name. the council will meet on saturday to formerly proclaim charles as the new sovereign having declared his loyalty to parliament and the church of england. whether the monarchy will emerge
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strengthened from the hand over remains to be seen, but the initial signs are positive. max foster, cnn, buckingham palace, london. >> all right, max, thank you so much for that. joining me here at buckingham palace, so glad to have both of you on. charles delivering, bianca, his first public address today. the weight of the crown really on his head now. how did he do? >> it was a very confident performance. you could tell that he'spry paired his entire life for this moment as his mother was the longest serving monarch this country has had. he's been the longest serving heir apparent, so he's known for so many years there would come a day he'd have to say these words. i think he struck a good tone. what he did do is depart slightly from the stoicism and reserve often associated with the british monarchy and
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basically reach out a hand and say i'm breathing, too, that i feel this as well which was tonally the correct thing to do, i think to help console the nation at this time and also humanize him slightly because that all about -- that speaks to the modernization of the monarchy and that very different type he's going to have tread between remaining as a monarch which is removed somewhat from the populous and has a tickty but also seeming like you have the common touch, you were also a man of the people and you understand their grief and concerns, too. >> paying homage and honoring the traditions and the past but also forecasting what might be ahead and what should be ahead for the future. >> without question. and this is a moment of great turmoil for the country because britain's identity is -- is going through some convulsions. britain's left the european union. there's no longer peace on the european continent with war in ukraine, britain being heavily involved with that.
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we've had a couple of years of political turmoil as well and more recently with this -- the changeover of prime ministers. and liz truss, the current prime minister being not exactly a leader the entire country is behind. in fact, she's not a particularly known quantity in this country just yet. so i think he made the right choice in establishing himself as a figure who is confident in this role, reaching out to the public, telling them what they need to hear and saying all is well, continuity remains, someone else is at the helm now and the line of the sovereign continues. >> and whether or not the monarchy can emerge from this more strengthened moving into the future. >> i think that's absolutely correct. and those comments are so completely pertinent. it was an interesting speech because it was very prince charles. it was a little bit quirky. there is a beating human heart under there somewhere, and he showed it. it was a very downtown abbey. that's what i thought.
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huge amounts of tides of emotion but a kind of stoical face on the surface, looking across 70 years not just personal history but also world history. but then pledging to people, look, i know this is very dramatic in the here and now, but these are going to be the headlines for the next 10 or 20 days. after that we have all the decades of britain's future -- brutten's future in the world, all the headlines of international relations. there's no way we can pretend just as the queen absolutely knew that what happens in the world doesn't impact her. the queen was a war child. she came out of the two world wars, and prince charles is saying the kind of unity and hope she symbolized, don't worry i'm going to take that forward in these fractured times. >> she became queen when winston churchill was prime minister, a very tumultuous time. listen, it was a day of vulnerability. things that you don't normally see or hear from the royal family. there was a moment today when
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microphones picked up charles during his first meeting with the new prime minister liz truss. let's listen. >> it has been so touching this afternoon when we arrived all those people come to give their condolences and flowers. indeed, they were very kind. you know what i've been dreading as i know a lot of people have -- >> a day he's been dreading, bianca. what did you make of his comments? >> well, it's always fascinating to catch an unguarded moment like that. i don't think he would have imagined it would have been picked up on the microphone. it also speaks to the unique relationship that exists between the monarch and the prime minister. also earlier on friday the former prime minister, theresa may, made a heartwarming speech about the late queen. and she said her audiences with the queen every week were the
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only ones she could trust never to be leaked anywhere to the media. and it is a moment where the prime minister with the weight of all the issues of the country upon them can look to somebody else for guidance and expose some of their concerns and worries. it is like no other. and the queen having seen through 15 prime ministers had really got a sense of character and leadership and could offer them a lot with her guidance and counsel. so that moment between the now-king charles and prime minister liz truss was a revealing one because they both share their exceptionally new to the highest roles in the land. >> within days of each other. >> exactly. you be the person who underpins the entire constitution and then the prime minister who is charged with being the person at the head of the government to effect britain's democracy. >> we don't know exactly the date. we know there's an upcoming funeral for the queen but we know it will be marked with dignitaries and so on.
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what should we expect? >> this is completely unprecedented and absolutely huge. you have a monarch who in the entirety of world history has served so long. usually only dictators stay in power that long, and the queen is no dictator. so you will have not just famous people but you will have the greatest politicians, the greatest human right leaders, state leaders flying in from all over the world to pay their respects. it will be a televised ceremony. of course there will be private moments, but this will be the final testament, the will and testament of the entire world community coming together to pay their respects, and that tallies up with what king charles was saying in his speech, which was all about the international community. it was about unity. it was standing shoulder to shoulder with the same values. he stressed the word values, not ambition, not role, not image. he was saying, you know, what unites us are ideas about how we
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want the world to be. and this is why this death feels so momentous because it feels like the end of an era. if you look anywhere in the world at the moment, it's so fractured. it's so unequal. it's so war torn. there are so many issues, often the same issues and yet we don't recognize them as the same issues, of course. and so this -- this ceremonial funeral, this farewell is going to be a chance for everyone in the world to see the leaders of the world coming together in friendship and basic respect. >> and the world will be watching. thank you. i appreciate it. you know, it's hard to wrap your head around the fact that more than 80% of the british population had lived their entire lives with queen elizabeth on the throne. we're going to talk to some of them. that's next. contestants read?
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just hours from now king charles iii will officially be proclaimed the new monarch. the proclamation will first be
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read aloud at the st. james palace and then in london. it comes as the british people continue to pay their respects in london. you've been hearing from the people outside buckingham palace today. what are they saying to you? >> well, it's very emotional first of all, don, very emotional indeed. people are obviously very sad at the loss of this monarch who's been with them -- been reigning for 70 years. but it's not a tragedy. she was 96, remember, so people accepted this was an inevitable event. but the overwhelming emotion i think that people wanted to communicate out there and they did that and laying their bouquets there is the emotion of gratitude. it was a day of grief for these mourners, the first without their beloved queen. a sea of flowers line buckingham palace, a symbol of queen
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elizabeth's legacy, the affection and respect she inspired in peoples hearts. >> she's been a part of our life or all of our lives apart from anyone born before her. so she's just been that constant strength and a rock really throughout any bad times throughout our lives. >> reporter: for most here queen elizabeth was the only monarch they've ever known. some even comparing her death to losing a member of their own family. we can see there is this enormous outpouring of grief, sadness, and i think overwhelmingly respect for people in britain towards queen elizabeth now that she's passed, people at the gates of buckingham palace, thronging with thousands of people. they're coming to lay flowers and stacking them up outside the gates of buckingham palace and laying messages as well like this one that says thank you for all you've done for the people of the world. may you rest in peace. indeed a queen of many
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countries, the monarch who ruled over 15 nations as well as britain and touched the hearts of the millions of people who respected her. the same people now mourning her loss across the globe. but this was also a day of renewal, to celebrate a new sovereign. it was an apprehensive king charles iii who met his new subjects for the first time as their monarch. and his welcome was encouraging and warm. he received an out of protocol kiss from a member of the public. memorable moments, indeed, as he became king. the succession may be automatic in britain's system of monarchy but what's not automatic is the transfer of respect his mother enjoyed as the head of state. king charles iii will have to work to achieve the same place as his mother in the hearts and minds of the british public.
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>> sorry, just -- that's just -- i'll never sing god save the queen again. and she's just meant so much to this entire country for so long. it's like the tectonic plates of our society have shifted and they'll never be the same, never. >> reporter: from now on it's "god save the king." but for a younger generation charles iii will have to become their symbol of the british crown. >> i think you put it -- it was appropriate because i heard someone say that they were shocked. she was 96 years old. i think they knew it was i inevitability, they just didn't want it to happen. she lived a long life but still obviously sad she's gone. >> yeah, it's -- it's a shock, that's true. it's disorientating for lots of people in the country.
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people are very anxious about what the monarchy is going to look like in the future. so i think what i observed as well is there's a bit of a divide across the age barrier. older generation i spoke to today, she's been a massive part of their lives. they've grown up with her, so obviously her death is much more of an emotional break with the past. but the younger people, the teenagers -- i've spoke to several of those today. they have respect for her. they're saying it's sad she's gone but it's not such an emotional loss. they've got there future monarchs including charles iii who will define how they see their country and how they see the monarchy. >> what did you think of the moment when the woman laid a big kiss on the new king? >> wow, well, lucky girl is what i thought. but, no, it's not the first time it's happened. it's not the first time it's happened, but -- you know, it's interesting because charles came out there.
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he was obviously very apprehensive about what his reception was going to be like. he's not his mom, and he's going to have to work hard to get that status in peoples hearts and minds. it was very warm. maybe he's going to be more of a hugger than his mother was. a very emotional scene. >> we shall see. matthew chance, thank you very much. a new prime minister and a new king trying to navigate leading a country facing record inflation, war in europe, and people in mourning. how will they do it?
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over the past week the united kingdom lost a beloved queen and gained a new king, charles iii. but that's not all. just a few days ago a new prime minister was appointed, so how will they work together? and can king charles help to pull the country out of the series of massive crises? >> joining me now marie jordan, the national correspondent and former london bureau chief at "the washington post." and susan glasser, a cnn global affairs analyst. good evening to both of you. mary, i'm going to start with you. the king speaking today to a grieving anxious public for the first time. listen to this clip. >> wherever you may live in the united kingdom or in the realms and territories across the world
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and whatever may be your background or beliefs i shall endeavor to serve you with loyalty, respect and love as i have throughout my life. >> he was remarkably emotional. what did you think of his tone in this message? >> i think it was a great speech for prince charles, and he has, you know, a big challenge ahead of him. you know, he has a long history when his mother took over she was very young, and she had come through the war. she hadn't gone to canada, and people gave her great kudo. well, we all know a lot of scandal and disappointments and lots of people don't like prince charles. so that was a really big speech. i think it was important for him to be emotional. i think people will long remember that key moment when he went to buckingham palace and started just shaking peoples
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hands. you know he just -- he's not seen as inheriting the thrifty gene or the down-to-earth gene that his mother had. that was a key moment for him. >> people are used to looking to it queen for a sense of stability in rocky times. will they look so for charles in the same way? >> i think she was unto herself. the world has moved on. a lot of people think, you know, the monarchy is kind of like the armor of a knight in this era when you have missile strikes by drones it should be in a museum. i think charles knows that, and i think you're going to see him try to modernize and slim down the monarchy.
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you know, there's such a thing as the lesser royals, believe it or not. and they have a lot of land holdings and titles. and i think he gets it that he's going to have to change and modernize for it to keep going because there are a lot of people saying, really, i mean do we need this? when he took over people were supposed to literally bow and kiss his hand. and it does seem to be a relic of the past. >> yeah, there are a lot of people hoowho say, really, yes, do we need this? and that is real. so the new prime minister, liz truss, who met with the queen just days ago is untested. the country is facing rampant inflation, high gas prices. talk about what lies ahead for these two new leaders? >> well, i think you're right to underscore that, don. this is a moment of really grave crisis for the united kingdom at
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the moment of this inevitable transition, right. you know, of course we're talking about a 96-year-old monarch. it's not a shock as we pointed out, but at the same time because of the timing i think it will underscore the sense of crisis and unmored to a certain extent which has been a constant for decades. there was this remarkable symbolic picture of liz truss being essentially given symbolically, ceremonially the post of prime minister just two days before the queen passed away. i can't think of another recent moment where you've had a new monarch and a new prime minister. it's probably been centuries in britain since this has occurred. and i think, first of all, here in the united states we've had gasoline prices that skyrocketed up but now have come down somewhat. we may not appreciate the full extent of the energy crisis that
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britains are looking ahead to this winter. we're talking about not just doubling of their energy bills but many households looking forward to a chance not even being able to pay for sufficient heating this winter. that's the kind of crisis liz truss is walking into, and i think this ceremonial introduction too her premiership is not necessarily playing to her strengths as a politician. >> mary, those meetings -- the former prime ministers say those meetings are important because they can speak freely and they know it won't be leaked. as prince charles is outspoken on issues, how does he stay nonpolitical and still exert influence here? >> well, that's the big question, right, because he has famously said, quote, i'm not stupid. i'm not going to meddle anymore in politics. and he has said that. he's going to try to do that because he really riled people up when he literally wrote notes
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to ministers and said you know what, i don't like this and i don't like that. that is not the role of a monarch, and he says he understands that now that he is the number one monarch. so i think, you know, habits die hard so we'll see if he sticks to that. but i think what susan is saying is so important. gas prices are high here. they're really high there. the u.k. imports half of its food. the reason that liz truss is a prime minister, the very new prime minister is they kicked out boris johnson because things were so bad. and by the way, boris johnson is part of the reason here in many peoples eyes because of brexit. you know, he cut them off. france is doing better, other countries that can kind of help each other in europe are doing better. this is a very unmoored, unusual time that both we have charles coming in and the prime minister coming in.
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i think it's frankly easier for charles because people in times of trouble kind of look to the steadfast. and what's more steadfast than 1,000 years of the monarchy? and he doesn't have to deal with politics. liz truss has a big problem here. she's not to fix things. she's got to pray that the ukraine war stops, that food comes in and the prices of energy come down because everyone in england is going to be wearing cardigans this winter. you know, they're going to have double cardigans on. that last picture we saw of the queen she was wearing a cardigan, and i think that's going to be a poster of this coming winter. >> mary, susan, thank you both. i appreciate it. so what is it about the wind haves that captures the entire world? we're going to talk about that. that's next. >> i send my love to her family and her loved ones, and she will be missed, but her spirit lives on and we celebrate her life tonight with music. okay?
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we're live at buckingham palace where the people of the united kingdom are welcoming a new monarch while bidding a sorrowful good-bye to queen elizabeth. a lot to talk about now with philip gregory, a historic novelist, the author of "the white queen." also joined by trisha goddard. there's such a worldwide fascination with the british royals. what is it about them? >> i think it's there's a number of levels. one there's the pomp and circumstance, and we in england
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believe that nobody does a show like we do. you know, royal wedding, christianing or as you're going to see a state funeral and a coronation. we've got the kit already, wave got the horses, the carriages. we're all good to go. and the other thing is especially over recent years i think it's become a soap opera especially with the younger royals and the next generation. there are now, you know, four of the queen's children and they have all had quite dramatic private lives. and they in turn have their children, and i think it's become something which is both gossiped and celebrity and royalty. >> listen, the walls are sort of coming down so to speak especially social media. it's just a different time. you used to be able to keep things private but not so much anymore. >> i think the queen is going to be the last private monarch that we ever see. i don't think that with her
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passing anybody is going to avoid the amount of scrutiny which she was able to do, which she decided to do. she herself let in the television cameras for a family documentary on the advice of prince philip who was a great modernizer. >> trisha, i want to go to you now because the queen had four children, grandchildren. how do you think she did all of this? >> well, she wasn't there a lot of the time. like a lot of upper class parents it was up to the nannies to bring up children, and prince charles has talked about that. and i think it's interesting that prince william thanks to diana i think william and harry have really fought back against and really working at giving their children a really stable childhood. and it's interesting that the prince and princess of wales as they're now called, catherine and william, have moved to a
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quieter area and a school where they could all be together. they probably knew the queen was ail. they probably knew a lot more than the rest of us. and it seems to me at some level they would have been thinking it's now or never to give their children that bedrock of childhood. remember catherine is very involved with organizations that is a parenting charity. they're very involved in mental health issues. they know through their own families how important it is to have their children have a really solid bedrock and how important mental health is. i mean look at all the issues that have played out in the royal family. no family, you know, demonstrates more than ever that things like divorce, tragedy, loss, anger, arguments, they're all what every family does. and they're doing the best to protect their children in the ways they know how.
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>> yeah. it's become a soap opera. philip, the queen's popularity ebbed and flowed. there were highs like after world war ii, lows like in the '90s with all the drama surrounding charles and diana. how do you think she was able to stay the course or stay above the fray? >> i don't think she stayed above the fray all the time. she was distressed both at the death of princess diana and a lot of people felt princess diana had been unfairly treated by the royal family and she would not have been edged out as i think she was. and i think there was a moment where all the queen's advisers and her majesty realized they had to reset, and that was really a great time of change when finally, you know, the flag was lowered because it's the death of a reigning monarch. >> it took a while.
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>> it took a week or so. and all of that time everybody was saying show us you care. we need to see you care because the british population had become more emotional, more expressive, less of a stiff upper lip than what everybody says. much more emotional than it used to be. and the queen was of a previous generation, and she was of a generation that you don't complain and that private life is private life. and i think that was a big change there. and i think since then we've seen definitely an opening of the doors and a sense that really the royal family if they want tothe doorreach out and physically touch in a way they never did. i am sure they will do that. >> thank you. i appreciate it. we will be back live from
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