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hey, thanks for watching everyone. don lemon tonight live from london starts right now. >> hey, don lemon. >> hi, how are you, laura coates. we've got a big day today, big day tomorrow in london. we'll get to. it will see you tomorrow morning. this is don lemon tonight. all right, this is a date for history in the books. it is right here in london. and a day of big developments back home and around the world. a judge releasing new never before seen information from the mar-a-lago affidavit. and we have news out of ukraine, where signs that some of vladimir putin's forces are retreating back into russia. all of that ahead in london. this is the day of the queen's return to buckingham palace. and first on cnn, we're learning that the queens children and their grandchildren had a family dinner at the palace tonight, a
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moment of unity for a family in mourning. what we saw here tonight was really amazing, cars coming to a complete stop so drivers could -- queens while passing by. around buckingham palace, waiting in the rain for hours just for the chance to pay tribute, breaking out in tears as she arrived at the palace for the first time, for the last time. [applause] the first -- inside so everybody could see the coffin and when. now in a matter of hours, kate charles will lead the royal family walking behind a coffin inside possession. from buckingham palace, to the queen will line its state on
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the morning of the funeral. watch the possession, which is to take about three minutes, big ben will toll and can if i will echo all across the city. the public will be able to file across the queens coffin in a 24-hour day, and fix the morning of a funeral on monday. when you take a look at this. this is a root for members of the public coming up, a cue -- to pay their respects. excuse me, in bank me -- bridge in central london on the south side of the thames. continuing along the south bank, behind the london i, following the river passed the national theater, and the -- hms belfast through the southward park. at more than four miles, and the government warns people waiting may need to stand for hours, possibly overnight, with little or no chance to sit down. and that gives you an idea of just how many are expected to say farewell to the queen. i want to bring in now richard
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quest of -- , here with me at buckingham palace. my glasses are falling off, and i really cannot see anything. good to see both of you. thank you so much. it's really -- --
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it was extraordinary, and i think that is the benefit of. >> -- -- -- -- what came to my mind was i heard -- >> >> glimpse of queen elizabet.
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and saw what the princess and learned prince william hades invited harry and megan to join with
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in many ways, the big. moment these famous pictures of large crowds on the street, waiting, anticipating, silence, respect. that is what we are going to see tomorrow >> said the whole world will be, watching an like 70 years ago. there's something quite remarkable about this. >> this country has changed prime minister and monarch in the last week. and yet, it can put on international, sort of global watchdog pomp and ceremony of this scale that runs like clockwork. i mean, that's quite reassuring of itself. >> we watched last night as they were rehearsing, i should say last, night this morning, it was four in the morning here and they were rehearsing. the queen is going to lie in state at westminster hall on wednesday, and that will happen wednesday through sunday. the government announcing a
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miles-long q. to put things in perspective here. before the queue was closed at st. giles ' cathedral, 26,000 people have the opportunity to pay their respects there and that was just about 24 hours, so this will be. big >> bigger, by a magnitude of ten, at least. >> you think so? >> i would never be civil get to say i would put money on it, but -- >> it is interesting how they told the public that they need to be respectful, especially when the queen is lying in state. it's what they wear, what they do how they act and so on. this is important. >> oh, absolutely, i think we can expect that and everything we've seen so far will suggest that that is the case. there is something very british about this, the police presence by and large is very discrete. it's restraint. people are behaving themselves. they know how to act. and if people are gonna be queuing many hours, perhaps overnight, in the pouring rain,
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they are there because they admire, respect, and want to say their final farewells to their queen. and i am sure they will behave accordingly. . >> i just want to say many will remember the handshake between queen elizabeth and the i.r.a. commander mcguinness, this was back in 2012, especially after a conflict that claimed thousands of lives, including the queen's cousin louis mountbatten. this was a historic moment. >> it was, and we saw it again today when the queen met the first minister, or elect first minister of northern ireland. again, meeting somebody who had, who was part of a party that was against everything the queen stands for. but the queen, remember what we always say, the queen does not act without the consent of government. she acts on the advice and consent of government. so, the government says you are going to shake hands with martin mcguinness. there may be lots of back and
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forth, but finally the government says you are going to do it, she will do it. and she did it because it was important for peace. >> i was just want to say, she also spoke once in irish, do you remember in 2012? and actually drew -- because the irish language was once banned under british rule. and whether it's a handshake, few words of the irish language, it does demonstrate the weight, the power of the symbolism of the monarch. >> yes, still, absolutely. >> exactly. >> this will culminate in a huge state funeral on monday, president biden among other world leaders will be there. what are you expecting, richard? >> well, anybody and everybody who is a world leader is going to be here with the singular exception of probably, definitely of putin, the prime minister of belarus, myanmar, and we don't know whether president xi of china. but everybody else, you can chalk them up. you will be looking at some who's who. >> who else is attending, do
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you know? >> as richard said, we are expecting heads of state and officials from over 500 delegations to be attending the funeral. and there will be exceptions. and all of this once again is a royal invitation. but it is taken on the advice of government. to richard what to what richer was saying before, this is done with the consent of the british government. foreign policy, any country the united kingdom has normal relations with we'll expect to see very high ranking representative. >> and keep an eye out for the crowned heads of europe. because they are all related to the queen, and they all know each other, and they're all friendly. so, you are going to have the king of norway, of belgium, of the netherlands. all of these royal families, the king and queen of spain, and for that, it's not so much a state event but a family event. they all know each other. they are all married to each other in some distant way. so, it is going to be crowned heads, presidents, prime ministers, and of course the
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people who she worked with. >> huge security undertaking. >> the biggest ever, some officials from the metropolitan police say. and you can understand why, with that many of the world's most powerful influential real people in a tiny little space in the center of london. that's why the metropolitan police are hoping to draw in all these additional resources, over 10,000 police in london every day, counterterrorism experts working overtime on this as you can imagine, to make sure that not only are all those delegates and high-ranking people secure, but those in the crowds who are at this extremely public event, broadcast worldwide too. >> you told me last night that around the royal family, right, the inner circle, that will be tight. the concern is what happens outside and the crowds. >> that's what i'm speaking to, a former head of the counterterrorism for the math, that's what he expects to me. >> you have to do all that, but at the same time, you have to let people know what's going on. i don't mean our television.
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the people who are on the streets. so, this is not unique to what is happening here in london. but is on a much greater scale. how you can have a massive, public event with world dignitaries, leaders, keep everybody safe. >> thank you both, i appreciate it. i will see you both throughout the week here. make sure you join anderson cooper and me as we follow the queen's final journey through london as the united kingdom honors her life. our live special coverage begins tomorrow at 8 am eastern. we will cover it all for you. we have a lot more to come on the uk's farewell to the queen, and the new royal era of king charles iii. plus, back home, never before seen information from the mar-a-lago affidavit. and the last primaries before the midterms, we're gonna have delays results, right after this. >> tech: my customer enjoys time with her family. so when her windshield got a crack... she scscheduled with safelite in just a few clicks. we came to her house... ...replaced the windshield... and installed new wipers. that's service on her time.
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new tonight, a federal judge unsealing a less redacted version of the affidavit use for the mar-a-lago search warrant. among the new details unveiled, documents handed over to investigators by trump's lawyers had markings associated with spies. and the justice department requested the trump organization hand over more than six months of surveillance footage. for more, i want to bring in cnet senior law enforcement analyst andrew mccabe, and cnn
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contributor and former nixon white house counsel john dean. good evening to both of you gentlemen. andrew, i'm gonna start with you. we've known how highly classified these documents are. what new information have we learned from the details from this affidavit? >> well, don, i think what we learned with what has now been unsealed from the same affidavit is really more of the same. there is a consistent through line here in terms of the documents that the president had at mar-a-lago. and those are not just classified documents, not just classified at the highest level, but also documents that contained hcs, which is human source information, as i, which is signals intelligence, that's communications that we intercept from our foreign adversaries. and, you know, this is some of, as i said, not just top secret but some of the most sensitive fragile information we have the top secret level. and information that could really put people in danger if it falls into the wrong hands.
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>> well, john, this investigation has been put on a bit of a hold since the search for a special master. does this strengthen the doj's argument to keep on investigating the documents well that search goes on? >> it does not necessarily strengthen it. i think the judge knows the weight of the classification issue. this reminds some people of the public of it. so, the public is a little bit more aware of it. we just got a teeny bit more information, just hits, really. no one knew the surveillance, for example, had gone on as long as it really had. almost six months before the search warrant was issued. so, there are those kinds of issues. i think, don, that the -- this just mounts up the weight on judge cannon down in florida. and to make the right decision on this day, take these classified documents out of play, she would be very smart to do that. whether she will do it or not, i have no idea.
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but the argument is there. and it is very imposing for her. >> what is at stake if she does not do that? >> while, it is still very confusing. even though the trump people have tried to say that the fbi and the department of justice are miss reading her early order and restricting who can do what and looking at the classified information vis-à-vis the criminal investigation and then the sort of national security investigation, weighing what damage this may or may not have done. they should not have been confuse that she -- they are saying that if they read this as they think she wrote it, that they can go ahead and do both investigations. justice is not so sure, because her language is broad and unclear. so, she has got to clean that up one way or the other. but i think they've got -- trump has given her an argument
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where she can step back. yeah >>, andrew, i want to talk more about the surveillance that has been going on for so long. the fact the justice department wanted surveillance tapes going all the way back to january. i mean, that is a whole lot of footage. >> it really is. it is a lot of footage, but it's, of course, a completely reasonable amount for the bureau to process. i think it is interesting, don, that it goes back to about the time that the trump team turned over the infamous 15 boxes of documents in the national archives. so, clearly the fbi had reason to believe that there were more material on the property, and that that material was being accessed or exposed to people in the storage room, in the basement in mar-a-lago, in a way contrary to what the lawyers had represented to the department in that infamous june meeting at mar-a-lago. so, when the search happened, and we did not know any of these details, it was pretty clear to most of us who are familiar the justice department
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that something had to have happened to have triggered the justice department to go forward asked for the search warrant. and i am fairly confident that what they saw on that video was the thing that compel them to believe that they had to get in there and recover the rest of these very sensitive documents very quickly. >> the doj, john, has a lot on their plate right now. we learned of 30 subpoenas, two different people in trump's inner orbit, including one for a close trump aide, boris epstein's phone. john, this investigation is getting closer and closer to the former president, no? >> it certainly is. and we are not totally clear as to which investigations are going on now. because there are clearly two grand juries. there is the federal grandeur, by the department of justice. they are investigating the january 6th and the implications of overturning the election. and they are also investigating the misuse or abuse of
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fundraising related to that in a separate grand jury. so, a lot of former nixon -- excuse me, nixon staffers are getting called for her to the gradually. >> yeah, well, it's all very similar so we certainly can understand that john. there is also the january six investigation they met today for the first time in weeks, supposedly to talk about whether to invite trump and pence to speak. pence has expressed some interest, i mean, that would be incredible. >> it certainly would be. >> john? >> i don't think there is any way that trump will accept, but it is possible that pence might. >> andrew, listen to what the committee chair, this is benny thompson, what he told cnn about the investigation to delete it secret service text. >> yeah, we've got millions of information in the last week.
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>> and the last week? >> on the secret service right now, and we're still getting some. >> significant information, what kind of information do you think he is referring to? >> you know, who knows, don? there is a whole range of things that could be. might probably be, my most confident gas, and it's a complete gas, is they are talking to people inside the secret service who are shedding some light on the process behind how these devices were decommissioned and essentially a race. whether or not that was actually a regular process, whether that was policy behind it, while that was done for people other than those people who were implicated in the january six activity. so there is a lot of, what seem like mundane, basic questions, but form the basis around how you think about the activity that took place with these gentlemen who are on an around trump and whose phones are now inaccessible to the committee.
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they are trying to see if this was an intentional act of destroying potential evidence, or if it was simply a standard part of kind of company practice. >> john dean, the committee is aiming for its next public hearing to meet september 28th. a lot has happened since the last hearing in july. the fbi's search of mar-a-lago, the ramp up of the doj's subpoenas. this is a whole new landscape the committee will have to navigate now. >> they met for four hours today, don, in a private meeting to sort of focus on this issue and what they want to do, who they might want to call, how they want to focus the end of their pursuit. because they are getting to the point where they need to issue a report. not that their hearings have not been informative, but that will be a little bit different form. so i think they will and in a
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probably significant way. and i think it could even be, there have been handsome rumors that they maybe talk about a referral, or referral of a criminal nature relating to the president to the department of justice. >> john, andrew, thank you so much, i appreciate it. >> it is the final round of primaries for the hotly contested 2022 midterms. voters in new hampshire, rhode island, and delaware are heading to the polls. we are going to go live to the magic wall for the very latest results right after this short break.
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midterms in november, the final round of primary races held today in new hampshire, rhode island, and delaware. the most watched race is the battle for the republican senate nomination in new hampshire, where one of the candidates is an election denier, and more mainstream republicans are hoping to block him from winning. cnn senior political analyst john avlon at the magic wall with it all for us this evening. hi john, results are coming in late tonight, what can you tell us? >> all right, don, listen, this senate raises high stakes. here we are, at the live free or die state, the true swing state were registered independents outnumber democrats and republicans, and the republican civil war is playing out in this high stakes senate. race you've got the retired general don bolduc, beloved by the activist base, but seen as too extreme to win a general election fighting against the state senate president chuck morse. and republican outside groups have been flooding the state with money trying to get morse
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across the finish line. right now, with 41% of the vote in, there's still a long way to go, they are separated by just over 2000 votes. but bolduc is in poll position. morse when a lot of the cities, by not by a big margin. a lot of our rural areas still coming in. this is high stakes because the democratic senator maggie hassan is seen as fairly vulnerable if the republican nominee can win over independents and moderate voters come the general election. don bolduc has been getting in a fight with popular centers governor chris sununu, calling of a communist sympathizer. sununu fired back calling bolduc and conspiracy theorist extremist. so, there is a lot of that blood in this race. and the senate could hang in the balance. >> john, there are also two former trump staffers facing off a congressional seat there, what's up with that? >> yeah, this is a fascinating one. take a look at the first district. this is a fight between two trump administration alumni, karoline leavitt and matt
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mowers. karoline leavitt was an assistant in the press office, 25 years old, really playing to the base, election denying, saying joe biden should be in peach. that mowers, former state department administrator, he's a guy who had the endorsement of kevin mccarthy. well karoline leavitt has the endorsements of lauren boebert and others of the world. right now, with 36% of the vote in, but levant is around 2000 votes in. this is tight margins, but not the outcome the initiation was. expecting karoline leavitt surging in recent days. a long way from being over, but this is another symptom of this civil war in the republican party, even among trumpers, from folks who are heart center right and establishment, and who are far-right election deniers. >> john, i also have to ask you what lindsey graham today. lindsey graham introduced a 15-week abortion ban. republicans have been back peddling on the issue. so why is graham introducing this now? >> that is the question lindsey graham's senate republican
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colleagues have been asking each other all day. look, we know in the wake of this decision of overturning roe that the enthusiasm and momentum has been shifting more toward democrats. registration much higher among democrats and women in particular. the last thing a lot of republicans wanted to do was to try and nationalize this issue, especially because their line has been including lindsey graham as far back is just two months ago, saying this is an issue for states to decide. so, when lindsey graham puts forth a bill to say all abortions nationally should be banned after 15 weeks, it undercuts that federalist messaging big-time. and it moves the attention where they do not want it to be. graham may be trying to fire up the republican base, the activists who are calling for this. but folks in tough races in the center say you just undercut our argument. and you are elevating the aryan we seem to be weakest on right now. >> all right, so we will be watching. john avlon, thank you so much. >> take care, buddy. >> king charles and his air prince william inheriting at least 21 billion dollars in land, property and investments.
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and one of the biggest royal perks, they will not have to pay any inheritance tax on their estate.
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king charles charles iii inheriting not only has mothers, don't but her fortune as well. the royals will -- public the vast wealth of the royal families worth, at least 21 billion dollars inland, properties, and investments will now pass to the new king and his air. prince william now assumes the duchy of cornwall, the real estate spent decades spending into billion dollar estate of land and property covering almost 40,000. akers joining me now to discuss all that, cnn royal commentator and -- hillary -- .
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hillary, thank you for joining us. i mean, this is vast, this is vast wealthier. one of the biggest estates the duchess of cornwall generates millions of dollars in rental income every. ear that all goes to prince william. now he and princess kate, it gives them their own source of income now. >> well, to a certain extent, and pleasure to be back with you, don, although different circumstances, perhaps another time, but a few things here. let's not forget the fact that we are not the wealthiest people in the world at all. and in fact, they did not even make the list of the 250 wealthiest british people on that list. j.k. rolling in 2003, she beat out the queen after she wrote harry potter. but a few things, here remember that they do not actually have personal, assets don. you're totally right they won't pay income tax, or inheritance tax on that. but queen did agreed to pay income tax years ago during the year as she called it, and as hurry-less, where she had a
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terrible year and then that year was the year that prince william, don't forget, that prince william -- i lost you. >> yeah, i can still hear you, hilary. can you hear me? >> sorry, i thought i lost. do you >> yeah, this is, that was an agreement in the 90s, that the queen and prince charles agreed to voluntarily play income tax on their estate. so it took some of the sting out of that. >> you're exactly right. that is the year that windsor castle went up in flames. that was 1992. >> yeah, so, the crown a state's worth, hilary, i think an estimated 19 billion dollars and now belongs to charles. but he only got a slice of the profit from that. the sovereign grant, that is about $100 million. so, the question is where does it all go? >> right, the percentage that he receives from the crown estate, the crown estate, to clarify what it is, the crown estate owns a swath of land,
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particularly a lot through london, particularly regions street and the retail shops, income from all the properties. the royals you see, prince charles, king charles now, will receive about 25% of that revenue. you asked where it goes. don't forget, don, there is extensive staff to pay. there are extensive cost of running this royal family, such as all the things that you are seeing. of course, they do not always pay for their own security. but everybody who works for the royal family has we paid somehow. so, this is also how, look at it as a way of creating jobs as well. i will say one thing, the queen was renowned for only putting one bar on other to bar heater and one of her drawing rooms because she was very fiscally conservative in terms of the actual very personal way that she lived. >> and of course, he inherits much of the queen's personal wealth. this is what forbes estimated last year, that is about $500 million and includes her jewels, our collection, and investments,
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to residences, including her favorite, balmoral castle in scotland. british citizens normally pay, hilary, about 40% inheritance tax. king charles gets this tax free. that has been criticized by some in the british public. do they have a point here? >> well, yes, the point is actually going to come to tradition, i think, don, more this winter. they're referring to it as the winter of discontent, of course, shakespeare. we don't know to what extent that discontent is going to be. but i would say, yes, you are right, people do pay inheritance tax. but let's also remember, a lot of those assets cannot be liquidated. they might own a lot of properties, they can't liquidate any thing from the crown estate. they can't liquidate the art work. these properties that aren't, someone who can go and just talk out of the window, well, i need the money for this, and i can use any other way like a regular person can. they have so many restrictions that you don't have, i do not have, and how the british subjects have. i will say that sandringham in balmoral, you're right, they are private properties.
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bill moreau was bought by prince albert, queen victoria's husband. that theoretically could be sold. but what queen charles has talked about moore's opening more to the public, and even maybe, perhaps, at one point when you talk about streamlining the monarchy, he talked about actually giving back to the people and opening it to the people. buckingham palace is already open to the public. in fact, there are lots of charitable events that are already conducted their. >> well, sometimes -- charles has sometimes been an unintentional symbol of wealth inequality. like early this year, he pledged relief for working families while sitting in a dazzling gold thrown, which is an interesting backdrop. just the optics were not good. do you think he and his advisers are going to try to avoid these kinds of mistakes even more now that he is king? >> you are right that he needs to be extremely sensitive. i think, don't forget, that so many of these properties and so many of these rooms and so many other places they have staged things are so historical that
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they are not -- that i look at them as this is part of history. not something we are trying to brag about, certainly not. and i am certainly, right i do think they need to be extremely sensitive to the optics. of the things about optics is he as work actually's entire life on something he is set up called the princes trust. where he actually, many, many years ago, did start to go into the poorest areas of what would be referred to an american as ghettos, he would go into these poor areas and he rose funds for young people to start their own businesses. and thousands and thousands and thousands of underprivileged young people of all races, all religions, all backgrounds have gone through them. and he has helped them with their future. because he was actually -- and he's been criticized as being too sensitive. he was extremely sensitive about the plight of the common person. so, don, what one would hope is as he moves forward, yes, he too with those sensitivities will be more sensitive about this optics, you are right. >> well, this is coming when, you know, all of this wealth,
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and you hear about it as england is facing rising cost of living, a living crisis, austerity budget cuts and so on. and then you have those who are asking for reparations for colonialism, and they are wondering, you know, 100 billion dollars, 24 billion dollars here there, 500 million there. some people want to be paid back. and members of the public are wondering why are we suffering when you are, you know, you have all this vast wealth? those are legitimate concerns. >> well, i think you are right about reparations. in terms of if people want it though, you always need to go back to the beginning of a supply chain. where is the beginning of a supply chain? that was an africa. and across the entire world went slavery was taken place, which was the first nation in the world that abolished slavery? the first nation in the world to abolish it was started by william mueller for us was the british, in great britain they abolished slavery. 2000 naval men died on the high seas trying to stop slavery.
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why? because the african kings were rounding up their own people. they have them on cages waiting on the beaches. no one was running into africa to. get them i think you're totally right, if reparations need to be paid, we need to go right back the beginning that supply chain, and who was rounding out those people and having them handcuffed in cages? absolutely, that is where they should start. and maybe, i don't know, the descendants of those families who died in the high seas trying to stop the high slavery, the closest family should receive something to sometime. >> it is an interesting discussion, hilary. thank you very much, i appreciate it. >> absolutely. >> we will continue to discuss in the future. >> and the impact of the supply chain crisis on the economy during covid? well, there is a chance it is going to hit us again. i am talking about a freight railroad strike that could start within the next 24 hours. the crippling impact it could have on food and gas, that is next. ♪ does it get better than not parallllel parking yourself?
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the dow dropping more than 1200 points on news that inflation remains stubbornly high in august. it was the worst trading day in more than two years, and the economy could take another hit if a threaded rail strike on friday stops the movement of freight nationwide. both sides are at an impasse. so, tomorrow, they're going to meet with the labor secretary to try and work out an agreement. the white house fears a massive disruption to the nation's supply chain, and it is working on contingency plans to keep goods moving. more tonight from cbs -- cnn's omar -- >> don, all of these moves are basically to preempt any form of national railroad strike that could come as early as friday. of course, we learned earlier today from amtrak that maybe canceling an additional seven long distance routes to avoid long distance passenger disruptions. on wednesday, of course, that came on top of the routes we saw canceled over the course of
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tuesday, primarily out of here and chicago. from chicago to l.a., chicago to seattle, chicago to san francisco, amtrak makes it clear that these union disputes do not involve amtrak or any other workers. they involve those with the freight railroad system. but the reason they are connected is because amtrak only owns and maintains about 700 miles of track. the other 97%, the other 22,000 miles of track is owned and operated by the freight railroad system. and so, what we are seeing there, is we have already seen stops and shipments of hazardous material on the free system, a prolonged strike. we are also beginning to see supply shortages, which, of course, we have already been dealing with. supply chain issues over the last few years, also potential factory stoppages as places might not be all that the parts that they need. keep in mind, these union disputes involve 60,000 union members and on top of it all, the 30% of america's freight is
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transported by rail. so, obviously, a lot of implications. the stakes are incredibly high for a strike that again could come as early as friday, don? >> omar, thank you very much. the coffin of queen elizabeth here at buckingham palace. mourners now camping out overnight to pay their respects ahead of tomorrow's procession to westminster hall. and it's expected to draw hundreds of thousands of people. arvana, get persononalized terms, browse for cars thatat fit your budget, then customize your downwnpayme and monthly payment. and these aren't made up numbers, it's what you'll really pay, right down to the penny. wheather you're shopping or just looking, it only takes a few seconds and it won't affect your credit score. finally, a totally different way to finance your ride only from carvana.
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we're live at buckingham palace, where just hours from now we are going to see a silent procession as queen elizabeth coffin moved to westminster hall. that's where the longest serving monarch in british history will lie in state ahead of her funeral on monday. cnn's scott mclain and
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contributor pretty sure mamata are here with me outside of buckingham palace. and former british affairs -- shannon felton spence joins us from the state. good evening to one and all, thank you for. joining -- i'm going to start with you, because we are learning about a royal family dinner tonight, including harry, william, even prince andrew. that seems to be a remarkable show of unity in some private family time ahead of what is gonna be a very public and emotional day tomorrow. >> while, what is really interesting is they have made those details public. so, what you are seeing is the reintegration of prince andrew into public mention. this is extremely unexpected, because everyone who is following current events over the last 18 months or so would be expecting andrew to be persona non grata at least for a few years. but then, of course, the queen passed away. but it also points out that in admits all the pageantry and ceremony and public spectacle this is also the story of a
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family, who are going to have to communicate with each other as a grieving family does. >> can you imagine being a fly on the wall at that dinner tonight? >> what are they going to talk about they are going to talk about small arrangements about the thing that is happening without realizing billions of eyes are gonna be on the. >> what are we going to see tomorrow? >> we are gonna see the opening up of a series of days of visits for the public to visit the queen and waiting. i've been asked by a number of people whether it's gonna be an open pass it. that is tmi, that is not going to happen. it is gonna be very sober. if you can go and visit across 24 hours. and it is very very somber. you go in silence. and i imagine in crowds just passing their way through step by step it's going to be like this until the funeral on monday and the strange atmosphere that is in central london right now is only going to intensify and darkened as the sheer meaning and significance of these events

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