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this is cnn newsroom. with john vause. >> we begin this hour in ukraine with a senior military adviser for ukraine's president as a major counteroffensive is falling but not stopping. its trip to fight -- the liberation of liven puts a new push into the luhansk region and the way of donbas. the ukrainian report pockets of ongoing resistance as well as russian soldiers looting as they retreated from what has been nothing short of a military route of ukraine claiming thousands of square miles of territory in the northeast has been the braided and once again under ukrainian control. as russia that are leaving their lima high windfall of military quill, and a gift, they say, especially for ukrainians who have been pleading for the west for increased weapons shipment. but russia still holds huge chunks of ukrainian territory,
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and the collapse of kremlin troops in the east does not mean they are good. weather could radically affect the battlefield, and keeps top allies when the conflict is not over. here is the u.s. president tuesday when asked if the ukraine's counteroffensive is a turning point in the war. >> the question is -- it's hard to tell. it's clear the ukrainians have made significant profit u.s.. but it's gonna be a long haul. >> among the liberated cities of eastern, ukraine izium -- russian logistics hub after is captured by russian ukrainian forces. here's more in an exclusive report. >> it has been a stunning advance. ukrainians route of russian invaders has recaptured 6000 square climbers, ukraine's president. says this land was held by russia just a few days ago. now, it's providing a rich harvard to ukraine's army of abandoned russian equipment.
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the russian z symbol painted over. the guns ready to kill russians. the recapture of izyum, a strategic prize, accelerated by precision strikes from new artillery donated by western allies. >> this was clearly hit with a very large piece of artillery or an airstrike. you can see how important was strategically, clearly a former school. there is a kind of children's painting on the wall. >> but it has also got these large holes, which have been dug to store tanks or armored personnel carriers even artillery pieces. there is one, two, three, four, five. >> we were shown into a command center in the bunkers of an old factory. >> so, down here we've seen there's a medical facility, call it something like that, inside this bunker. there is a barracks. >> they're sweeping it. >> yeah. >> the top brass here slept in beds made of old doors. >> and then of course the
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command center here. >> as we walk along here, it's actually extraordinarily different labels for the different roles of the senior russian officers on the school desks that have been arranged in this bunker, and what looks like a bread factory. now, they were safe down here underground. but they did not feel safe enough to stay in izium. and what is critical ultimately for the ukrainian armed forces is making sure that senior officers of the russian army stay on the run. if they do that, the russian armed forces will collapse completely in ukraine. and potentially threaten the longevity of one vladimir putin. >> this couple celebrated liberation. they told me that some other neighbors were less delighted, and blamed ukrainian forces for shelling their homes. but he insisted the incoming shells never hit the checkpoints or russian artillery based right outside his house. and so, blame the russians for false flag attacks on
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civilians. he said the russians behave like pigs. they stole everything from all the empty houses before they ran away. the russian guns are a busy year, there were ammunition boxes now stockpiled for winter fuel. to the ukrainian victors here, the spoils have been rich. the capture of izium and the route of russia here has broken a key link in putin's logistics chain in the battle for the east. >> now, you have the remarkable scene of a tank coming to collect an abandoned russian howitzer. >> i asked him if it had been a hard fight. not really, he said. the latest ukrainian successes may not be the beginning of the end of this war. but not even the kremlin can deny that this chapter has been a very sorry tale for russia. sam kiley, cnn, in izium.
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we have a cnn national political security analyst and white house national security correspondent the new york times. welcome back. >> greatly with you, john. >> okay, for the pace of this ukrainian offensive, it has slowed a little, but it has not stopped. at least according to a military advisor to present zelenskyy. he areas, listen to this. >> we are prepared to keep our offensive, identify our strikes, and liberate new territories. >> so, clearly the momentum with the ukrainians, russians have been rattled, at least, for now is it too early to declare this to be a turning point in the war? have ukrainians at least been able to prove that victory is possible? >> it proves that it is cause we'll. it also proves that the forcing of the russians out of kyiv back in april and may was not a one-off event. they were able to capitalize on the fact that the russians are severely undermanned. many of the parts of occupied
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ukraine. and they have lost a lot of their best ground equipment. a fair bit of their weaponry and so ukraine seized on the. moment the big question, john, can they hold what they have taken? because while this could well be a turning point in the war, it might not look as much if the russians are able to buy their time and come by back in. >> it does seem that there is one moment over the summer, which is critical in the decision to launch a counter offensive on two french. the new york times reporting that it happened during a war game between ukraine and american officials testing the defence of a broad offensive across the south. so just by cnn said is such an offensive would fail. armed with american skepticism, ukraine officials went back to president zelenskyy. and he basically decide on this two front approach. did the russians actually
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locate many of their troops to the south, based on comments by ukraine? officials >> well, they would certainly be allocated some of the based on public comments on intel they gathered, how much on the belief that ukrainians could not sustain to front at the same time. but what we are now learning is that it is the russians who are having the trouble maintain multiple fronts. this gets to two or three big changes in the last couple of months. the first is the delivery of a lot of a weapons. the u.s. is now moving those weapons in at a remarkable pace. 500 million to a billion dollars in weaponry, and and ammunition each and every week. the second thing that has changed is the russians themselves have not wanted to pull off a general mobilization
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that would have brought in middle class kids, grafted them in. these are the elite from st. petersburg or moscow. and the government has, i think, rightly calculated that if there was anything that might destabilize president putin it might be losing that middle class group, where he has got a fair bit of support. i think the third big thing that change is that the ukrainians saw winter was coming. so, they did not grab this now. they probably were not going to be able to do it in this calendar year. >> speaking of criticism of president putin from within russia, we continue to have these city officials, if you, like from moscow and st. petersburg and elsewhere signing this petition demanding that the president actually resign. this has actually been ongoing for a few days. it has not been shut down yet. is this the start of, something what is going on here? >> we wish we knew we all thought we are at the start
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something at the start 2011, 2012, when there are protests about a rigged election in ukraine. i'm sorry, in russia. and, president putin did not take the criticism while, who was particularly outraged with hillary clinton and the secretary of state issued a statement suggesting that the election had been rigged. and many people believe that was part of the origin story of why putin went into try to alter the 2016 american election. but the other thing that we do not know here is how deep the opposition to putin goes. there are 40 very brave mayors, deputy mayors who signed that petition. but that is hardly a very large number in the country the size of russia. and we just do not know what kind of sustained pressure may ultimately result on president
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putin, if any. >> david, as always, it's great to have you with us, thank you so much. >> thank you. ♪ ♪ ♪ britain's longest serving monarch has made her final journey home in the final night at buckingham palace. the coffin caring queen elizabeth was greeted with cheers and applause as it arrived in london in edinburgh, and in the hours ahead the coffin will be taken by horse drawn carriage to westminster, where she will lie in state until her funeral on monday. cnn's bianca not alone has more now reporting in from london. the final journey back home, the queen's hearse taken to buckingham palace to the embrace of her children and grandchildren, a night for the family to grieve in private. mourners bid her farewell and edinburgh, streaming past her casket endured with the
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scottish crown. and have been queuing up in london ahead of wednesday for one last chance to say goodbye to the late queen at westminster hall. [sound of gunfire] cheering her motorcade like they cheered the new king, received by an upbeat crowd in belfast earlier on tuesday. [noise] expected to build upon the foundations of his late mother, king charles needs to be a source of healing. >> my mother held a deeply, i know, the significance of the realm she herself has played in bringing together those who history has separated. and in extending a hand to make possible the healing of long held her. it's >> in a sign of unity amid a fractured past, the king met with the irish president and northern irish leaders and lawmakers at the hillsborough
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castle royal residence, where queen elizabeth the second played a part and semantic the piece following decades of deadly violence. >> queen elizabeth ensured that a small but significant gesture, a visit, a handshake, crossing the street, or speaking a few words of irish can make a few huge difference in changing attitudes and building relationships. >> god save the king! >> chance of god save the king greeted the king and queen concert at the service at st anne's cathedral. >> the blessing of the almighty, the father, the son, and the holy spirit be with you and remain with you as always, amen. >> before the king flew to receive his mother's hers back in london. bianca knobler, cnn, london.
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at this hour, cnn's nina desantis is standing live outside buckingham palace. we'll see if cnn's scott mclain in london, where many are lining up to see the queen lining up and state. first, to, nina explain what we can expect in the hours ahead? >> the moment the queen's coffin is spending one last night here in buckingham palace, obviously the official residence and seat of monarchy in this country. but she is also in the final embrace of her family who are here for the night, chaplains watching over her coffin as we speak, and then eventually later on in the early afternoon, at 22 minutes past to precisely the gates of buckingham palace will open and her coffin will be brought in a procession followed by her son king charles and his sons prince william and prince harry. it will proceed here, down the mall behind me, taking a number of london landmarks, for
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instance, parade which many be familiar with. it go through that arch to whitehall, which is where the seat of government is in this country before eventually proceeding down parliament street and into the complex of the palace of westminster, which is where westminster hall is. that's where she will lie in state -- to allow britons and everybody who wants to to queue for long enough to pay their respects. she will probably arrive there at 3 pm and her coffin will be loaded on to, from the hearse onto a platform there it will be adorned as it already be when it comes out of the gates of buckingham palace with the royal standard. but also, crucially with the imperial state crown. and we are going to be expecting gun salutes taking place in the high part which is just to the left of me over there, decide on the sort of northwest of where i'm sitting at the moment, john. but also guns lose taking place in other parts of the capital as well.
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big ben is expected to toll as well, as of course this funeral procession guides the 70-year-long monarch from buckingham palace over to westminster hall was she rely instate. and people will have an opportunity to try and lined the streets, as we saw yesterday when her coffin returned from scotland. they lined the streets even near the freeway, stopping near their cars, keeping their lights on, getting out in a mark salute to the late queen, john? >> nina thank you. let's go to scott mclain now. scott, nina touched on this, so far the tributes to her majesty have been in silence they have been somber,, they have been respectful. and it is silence that is most notable. is that sort of the mood there, where people are now lining up to pay their respects ahead of later today? >> people are dressed remarkably well, john, considering that they are basically spending the night outside. not basically, they are spending the night outside, expose the elements. but they want to be in their sunday best to see the queen. let me just set the queen for
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you quickly. these are the houses of parliament, that's westminster hall where the queen's body will lie in state. the beginning of the queue that they set up is right here. the first two women in the queue, this is their second night, they have just finished spending outdoors. by the time it's all said and done and i see the body lying in state, they will have been waiting for 53 hours in line. i just want to introduce you to one person really quickly if i can, his name is david carlson and easier. he's 75 years old. david, if i can describe you for one second. just a quick question here for you, you had a quick bit of a fainting spell yesterday. and yet, you decide to continue on, wait in line to see the queen's body. and i just wonder? why >> while, i just want to pay my respects. you know, that she was my queen, you know. i swore an oath when i was in
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the forces that i would join our, that i would swear my allegiance to her. and this is my goodbye, my only way to say goodbye, you know. >> so it is really amazing. go ahead. >> i'm such a, he even though i'm not in the forces now, i'm a bit older. [laughs] i feel as though i've done my duty. she has been my queen 70 years. i was five when she was crowned. >> just want to say thank you. >> yeah. >> thank you for talking to us david, and thank you so much for your service as well. john, just let me show you the rest of the line if i can hear, really quickly. most of people that you see here, obviously, all of the people that you see here, they have spent the night outdoors. some of them brought tense. some of them did not, because the government has told people not to bring a lot of stuff. you are not going to be allowed to bring in big bags, you are not going to be allowed to bring in, you know, a ton of
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water or supplies or anything like. that you can really only bring us one small backpack. people have come with just what they need, snacks, some clothes, maybe a mat to sleep on, maybe a launcher, that kind of thing. if you actually look at the route of the mountain that they're expecting for the queue, it stretches on four for miles. we might get to the end of the queue. so far, we are actually 12 hours away from the public to actually see the body. it stretches all along the south back of london, past the london, i passed the tower bridge, passed the tower flooded, all of the major landmarks, all the way to southwark park, which of you know what it, is sort of in the eastern part of central london. it is a remarkable long way to expect people to be queuing. but, if you figure that some 33,000 people filed past the coffin when it was at st. giles ' cathedral cause in scotland. two and 1000 people were here over two days to file past the coffin of the queen mother back in 2002.
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and obviously, they are expecting a lot, lot more for queen victoria -- for queen elizabeth, sorry, the second, obviously this time around, they are expecting even more people to show up. so we are talking about hundreds of thousands of people. they have had to add extra trains because obviously they cannot control when people actually get in there to see the body, or to see the coffin lying in state. so, you know, people might be looking to go home at 2:00, 3:00 in the morning, at a time when usually there are no trains. obviously, a lot of alternate arrangements have had been made to accommodate people, john. >> scott, just very quickly, across the times we can see big ben, and what else is just across the river there where you are? >> yeah, big ben, houses of parliament, you can also see westminster abby behind their. that is where the fuel actually take place. i mean, this queue that they have, here really all of the landmarks that any sort of tourists would see in london, it goes past there and. it's a very very long way. >> absolutely, scott, thank you
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welcome back. a disappointing financial report should u.s. markets into tailspin. the dow lost 1200 points, close to 400%. worst day since june of 2020. the nasdaq down 5%, s&p 500 lost 4%. the labor department report shows inflation was up one tenth of 1% from july to august. many economists have expected a fall in inflation. and while all of that was happening, u.s. president joe biden was at the white house celebrating his inflation reduction act, which aims to reduce the cost of health care and prescription drugs as well as addressing climate change. the president brushed off the
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bat day on wall street. >> the stock market does not necessarily affect the state of the economy, as you will know. and the economy is still strong. unemployment is low, jobs are up. manufacturing is good. so, i think it is going to be fine. >> the president was speaking there from delaware, where he had gone to vote in the primary elections. voters have also been casting ballots in rhode island, as well as new hampshire. one of the key races we are watching is republican senate primary in new hampshire. retired army general john bolduc is locked in a tight race with state senate president chuck morse the. winner will take on the incumbent democrat maggie hassan in november. new hampshire's first congressional district, cnn projects election data, the pass projection that karoline leavitt will win the primary to take on the incumbent. jessica levinson, the professor lot loyola -- and podcast. good to see you >> good to see you. >> let's talk -- because he's been the favorite
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among -- here is on fox news explain why has been under attack, not just from democrats, but from republicans as well. here he is. >> i am not extreme in the slightest. i mean, being called names on both sides of the aisle now, right. i guess it just comes with the territory when you stand up for what you believe in. >> and this is what he believes in, that donald trump won the 2020 election and it was stolen by democrats. that the new hampshire governor and moderate senate governor, is a calling it synthesizer. he said covid vaccines are being used in plant microchips. and ask about that, he said reportedly that bill gates wants to implantable tracking microchips. you know, this list goes on and on and on. this seems to be what is potentially a widespread problem for the republicans now heading into the midterms, with these candidates who appeal to the extreme part of the party, but not much the mainstream. >> right, which actually could be helpful for democrats going into the midterms because these are extreme candidates. and of course, it depends on
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the particular district and how much that district is slanted towards republican, and whether or not the republicans will just say i'm not voting or i'm voting for a third party or i'm gonna vote for a democrat. but it is a roll of the dice to continue to have these very right weighing, maybe is not the correct phrase, but really i would say fringe moving into the mainstream candidates because while they may be in the mainstream for some politicians, i still believe for a lot of voters the idea that the covid vaccines are planting microchips in us, the idea that fair and free election did not really occur in fact was stolen. i think for voters, these are still fringe ideas. >> yeah, and we are also seeing a proxy war photo between donald trump and senate minority leader mitch mcconnell. these are the two most powerful leaders, if you, like in the republican party right now. and they are backing different candidates. >> i think we are going to see
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more of this. and i will say, i think a lot of the schism between, kind of, how much this republican party wants to continue to tie itself to donald trump and the maga movement, i think we have to watch to see what happens on a couple legal fronts. the department of justice has ongoing investigations not just into the documents, the unparalleled unlawful retention of documents, but also the fake elector scheme, and now also this issue of fund raising for the stop the steal rally, and fundraising for this super pac which may, may potentially have violated some federal election laws and maybe even while wire fraud laws. the more we see those investigations ramping up, i think the more we see the party pulling away from trump. maybe not trumpism, but trump. >> and the consequences from the supreme court's ruling to end the legal right to abortion by striking down roe v. wade. this is been emerging as a big issue in the coming midterms. it's sort of hurting the
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republicans. so, the republican senator lindsey graham now has this plant, here he is. >> i think we should have a law at the federal level that would say after 15 weeks, no abortion on demand, except in cases of rape, incest to save the life of the mother. if we take back the house of the senate, i sure he will have a vote on the bill. >> explain what is going on here. because, you know, states rights is what essentially struck down roe v. wade, send it back to the states. and grandma to take back to the federal level. what's going on? >> so, i think this was always the endgame for a lot of people who do not like roe v. wade. of course, it is not just and with roe v. wade. and that is true for a number of different fronts. it doesn't end with roe v. wade meaning we are going to look into other protections, for instance, particular the lgbtq community. but also does not and with roe v. wade, even though we have heard in the oral arguments, we read in the opinion, this is
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just about leaving it to the states. nowhere does that say and the federal government has no say. so, there's a couple things here. legally speaking, what needs to happen, the supreme court would have to say congress does in fact have the enumerated power, the enlisted power, under the commerce clause to pass this type of abortion ban. and after that, we really move into the political arena, which is, frankly, i am not sure this is a winner for republicans. we know that the dobbs decision overturning roe v. wade has been motivating for one party. and it really is the democrats. they now have seen what can happen. it is not just worry about what will happen, it's actually states are banning abortion. and i think lindsey graham is trying to gin up some support from republicans who are saying oh, great, we would be able to vote for a nationwide ban. but i terrifies a lot of democrats, and we'll get them to the polls as well. >> it's such a complicated issue, to. and one which does not really
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have a clear path right now as to how old. and just, god thank you for being with. us jessica levinson in los angeles. >> thank you. you >> can start, remember, him he's the man investigate bill clinton for a series of political scandals. the family says he's. died 70 sexual died from complications of the. treasury he became known worldwide when he was called in the 1990s to investigate his involvement in a real estate scandal. his investigation ultimately revealed bill clinton's affair with monica lewinsky, leading to clinton's impeachment. lewinsky reacted to starr's death with this. as you can understand, the news of starr's brings up many complicated feelings, but understand is a loss for those who love them. -- counteroffensives thousands of square miles, and coming up, life after liberation. residents in one newly freetown tell melissa bell what it was like living under months of russian occupation.
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back now to our lead this, our a senior aide to ukraine's president says a blistering fast counter offensive is now slowing his troops suffice to retake the city of lyman in the donetsk region. in just the last few weeks, ukraine is going to have taken thousands of square miles. even the russians have been forced to admit they retreat. ukrainian fighters saying they are still incurring pockets of resistance and looting by russian soldiers. ukrainian officials say more than three had a townsend electors have been liberated in just four days during this counteroffensive. residents have endured months of russian occupation, many forced to survive on what little they could grow at home. cnn's melissa bell spoke with ukrainians about life under occupation, and the emotional moment they found out their town had been liberated. >> there is a kharkiv guy is ashamed of what little she has, food given by the russians. mainly rice, flower, and sugar.
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for six months, she says, she and her 35 year old daughter were virtual are prisoners of their apartment too scared to go out. the medical help svetlana needs after an accident 15 years ago impossible to get. most people, says law russia, says they have left -- the russia. only the poorest left behind living on what they can grow, apples and watermelons mostly. but >> [speaking non-english] >> loris is empty fridge now her primary concern. >> enough for one month? >> [speaking non-english] -- she says she is embarrassed to show the world how empty it is. but tries nonetheless to offer us some of the watermelon preserved she has just made, but for showing us around a town liberated on friday after several days of fighting. the shops are now closed, were
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for six months, only affordable for russian soldiers, she says. >> [interpreter] they mocked people. sometimes, they killed. there were so many of them, and they were so young. [end of translation] >> the arrival of ukrainian soldiers a relief for larissa and our friend maria, but almost too much to digest. >> [interpreter] there is psychological abuse, and there is violence. for me, psychological abuse is worse. we were sitting in a basement for two days. and then our husbands came and said our soldiers are here. and it was just tears of happiness. [end of translation] >> happiness at the change of hands, but uncertainty till about how to survive and what the immediate future holds. melissa bell, cnn, shevchenko hitch. >> still to come on cnn,
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typhoon red alert this, year with -- to make land courses south of shanghai in a few hours. the wind gusts at 200 kilometers an hour, hundreds of flights have been canceled. ships will be ordered to return to. ports crusade vice to take shelter. meteorologist, pedram javaheri joins us now for the very latest. we're about 28 million people in shanghai alone. but what is the impact? >> yes, there's so many people across the region, even just south of saying hi as you know very well so,, the impact is gonna be an impact regardless. you notice 300 millimeters of impact -- we're talking about in the last three days and we've got a trio of tropical systems land. up at the most pressing one is this particular one that we found is equivalent to category two hurricane as it pushes across the densely populated region of eastern china. so, they're shanghai, and there's an air across -- the province that are really gonna see impacts of the storm
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system. as you noticed, within the next few, hours the initial landfall just east of nimble, population, they're about 8 million people equivalent to new york city and then within 68 hours, potentially pushing just east of shanghai there as a tropical storm. so, threw some steam, which is a strong tropical storm and we notice it kind of takes the scenic route here over the next several days. kind of going right along the eastern periphery of china, very densely populated region, as i, said and again with the population pushing between six to 28 million shanghai in particular and then you brought up the perspective. i just calculated this area, looking at it the nasa, to 127 million people over the next three days set to be impacted because of this track. so, the storm will produce an incredible amount of rainfall. the flooding is gonna be significant, especially when you look at the densely urbanized region that's gonna be impacted here. so, that is one area we are watching. and, again there's another system on the back side of this that could impact various of japan in the coming several days, john? >> pedram, we appreciate the update. thank you. >> chinese leader, xi jinping,
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is scheduled to travel to kazakhstan and rebecca stand for the regional summit. and his first international trip since the beginning of the covid pandemic. the russian president, vladimir, putin will be there and he said he will meet with xi on the sidelines. cnn's kristie lu stout with us live for us in hong kong with more. she didn't think could've gone to any country he wanted, really, for his first trip back on the world stage, so he's going to central asia that is meeting with vladimir putin. what does it say about what he's looking at, what does he want, what is the sort of message he's sending with all of this? >> yes, this is very significant. chinese president, xi jinping, is making his first trip. he is leaving china for the first time since the early days of the pandemic. he is touching down in kazakhstan today. and tomorrow, he's expected to meet on the sidelines of an economic conference in uzbekistan with the russian president, vladimir putin. and with this, visit to, central asia, china has the opportunity to showcase its international cloth, to express its opposition to the united states and for xi jinping, this is an opportunity for some political muscle flexing. for him, to say domestically is
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confident about his grip on power at home. even while china's being hit with multiple economic headwinds. the timing of this visit is critical. we are just a few weeks away from the 20th party congress that is of course when she jinping is expected to secure is unprecedented third term, as party. leader now, ahead of this visit to central asia, we did hear from russian state media that to -- the russian china relationship are saying that when she and putin beat uzbekistan they will discuss ukraine. i want to bring up a statement for you, this is from putin's foreign policy aide. he said, this, quote, in the current difficult situation and that the fate of the mid western section, this cooperation demonstrates sustainability which continues to develop and game. until now, we are of course awaiting comments from beijing about the agenda. also, about the visit for the expected meeting itself, but even in the face of international well backed russia the actions in ukraine, the relations between china and russia have been warming in
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recent months. economically, china continues to buy russian energy as softening the effect of western sanctions. china continues to speak out against western sanctions, as well as refusing to condemn russia, and so we will be looking at very closely for any signs to come out of this potential meeting between putin and xi in uzbekistan tomorrow. and any signs of a further consolidation of the relationship, any signs of just how limitless this relationship really is, especially now with the battlefront in ukraine is shifting. john? >> kristie, we appreciate the update there. thank you very much. kristie lu stout live for us in hong kong. pope francis is in kazakhstan for a three-day visit to attend a media world religious. meaning he, said he believed to go to china at anytime. but there is no -- and the chinese president in his kazakhstan trip. never mind. still ahead, former twitter executive turned whistleblower heads to capitol hill for damning allegations for some parts of security standards at the social media giant, more details when we come back.
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on the second day of the trial of right-wing shock jock alex jones, an fbi agent broke down in tears describing his role in clearing classrooms after the sandy hook shooting in 2012. alex jones has claimed the sandy hook shooting is fake, describing the grieving parents as crisis actors. here's agent bill oldenburg talking on tuesday about what he saw. >> what you saw in that school fake? >> oh, no. no, sir. >> was it synthetic? >> no, sir. >> did you see any actors that, bill? >> no. >> those children real? >> it's awful.
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awful. it was awful. >> last month, a texas jury ruled alex jones should pay the family of one sandy hook victim $50 million for defamation and causing extreme emotional distress. in one court deposition, jones acknowledged the shooting was, real denying his claims that it was a hoax on his show. former twitter executive turned whistleblower went before the u.s. senate on tuesday with allegations of lies, security lapses, and foreign spies on the social media companies payroll. cnn's julie sullivan has the story. i'm here today, because twitter leadership is misleading the public. lawmakers, regulators, and even its own board of director. >> twitter's former head of security coming to capitol hill with a stark warning for lawmakers. >> it's not farfetched to say that an employee inside the company could take over the accounts of all of the senators in this room. >> former twitter executive
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zatko that the fbi had informed twitter that the had a chinese spy on its payroll. >> they lack the fundamental abilities to hunt for foreign intelligence agencies, and expel them on their. own >> telling foreign executives were driven by profits no matter the security costs. >> i'm reminded of one conversation with an executive, when i said, i am confident that i have a foreign agent. and the response was, since we already have one, what does it matter if we have more? let's keep growing the office. >> as for regulators, he says the ftc is up for the task. . >> honestly, the ftc is a little over the head. compared to the tech companies, and the times they have against them, they are left letting companies grade their own homework. >> we haven't heard publicly from twitter and diapers since zatko came for these allegations for the first time about a month ago. but twitter is saying today that today's hearing only confirms that zatko's
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