Skip to main content

tv   Anderson Cooper 360  CNN  September 14, 2022 9:00pm-10:00pm PDT

9:00 pm
my cholesterol is borderline. so i take garlique to help maintain healthy cholesterol safely and naturally. and it's odor free. i'm taking charge of my cholesterol with garlique. >> in the early overnight hours, a country, and the kingdom in mourning. this is london.
9:01 pm
behind me, the house parliament. inside, and westminster hall, elizabeth ii lies in state as one by, one her devoted subjects do what they have been doing for hours now and will continue to do around the clock until monday morning. they are making a way towards the draped coffin, and quietly paying their respects. to the only monarch most have ever known. as we watch, it is hard not to notice how well the calmness of this late hour fits the moment. this is after all, a bustling world capital, it looks and sounds that way during most daylight hours. except earlier today, when even some flights to heathrow were suspended, and the city felt quiet for the procession from buckingham palace. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> flanked by guards in cavalry, and led by her on four children, the carriage carried the queen coffin down westminster. it was a remarkable display of ceremony and ritual. history, and family. each piece of it,
9:02 pm
every gesture planned to the heartbeat, and done with precision. >> turn, slow, march. in, out, in, out, in, out. in, out, in, out. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> inside westminster hall, the only spoken words were prayers led by the archbishop of canterbury.
9:03 pm
>> and the blessing of coddle god all mighty, the father, the son, and the holy spirit be among you, and remain with you always. amen. >> the king, staying tonight in his private residence, west of the city where he is expected to spend some time on the phone with world leaders. we spoke with president biden today, cnn's clarissa ward has been talking with mourners as they make their way toward westminster hall. she joins us now. clarissa, i know that you have been talking to people waiting to see the queen, wanting to see it all day. what is the scene there tonight, and what have you've been hearing? >> well, anderson, as you know it is after one in the morning here now. but the crowds are not showing any sign of slowing down. you can see behind me, it is a pretty long line here of people who have been waiting for quite some time, although not as bad as some of the estimates have been. in fact, i just saw this man here, he told
9:04 pm
me exactly how long he has been waiting here. >> timed it exactly. >> i have not eight, in three hours and 40 minutes. >> three hours and 40 minutes. which actually, considering that they were warning people might have to spend the night is not as bad. do you have a sense of when you will be able to get to westminster hall, another couple of hours? >> about two hours for the last four hours. >> two hours for the last four hours. okay. have you come here from london? >> yeah. >> and why was it important to you? >> again i think there's a sense of history. it's not gonna happen, once in a lifetime. having had the queen in so long, no one remembers anything other than her. so i think it's important thing to do. and yeah. >> it's interesting, you hear that for a lot of from people. even people who are not necessarily he supports of the monarchy say that they thought
9:05 pm
like it was important to be out here because the queen assess part of the fabric of life for the vast majority of britain. they only ever known the queen. in their lifetime so so many people just want to come and mark the moment, pay their respects. and to pay homage really to an extraordinary woman, who looked extraordinary legacy. alison? >> appreciate it, thank you. back with us is -- author and playwright upon deputy chair of the british museum. also robert hardening, columnist for the daily mail, and author of the book queen about our times. the life of elizabeth the second. at this late, our you see the crowds still other tonight lined up quietly, solemnly as they have all day. what do you make of what we've seen? >> i was just saying, i lived here half my life, i live not far from here. i have never seen this sort of atmosphere. it is very quiet. but it is also very buried off. so, there
9:06 pm
are blockades, there is no over fly, you cannot hear the planes. i live in the west, and there are always planes. nothing is in the sky. it is very dark. you go everywhere, there is security guards, everyone is very quiet, very polite, and very sequestered. this crowd is not making a sound. i have never been around so many people who were not speaking. so it is enormous. if you were to make this as a piece of theater, i don't even know if you could even do it, because it is just a huge amount of people, and there is no sound at all. >> that was really noticeable to me at buckingham palace last night, the hearse was coming by, and even when the hearse came in and disappeared, and there was applause but this silence, the weight of it is extraordinary. >> i think at the moment, what is the correct way of mourning this monarch? i think people like to see her as an approved
9:07 pm
response. at the moment, it is perfectly fine to clap, to celebrate the life of this great monarch. most people today have watched the procession in silence. but it is a very strange atmosphere. i think back to the reaction and the days after diana 25 years ago. you are here for that. that was different. there was a really big sense of anger and shock. this is a sense of profound loss. and at the moment, everyone is being very correct, and very respectful. and it does feel like we are in a very odd situation. we saw these wonderful scenes at westminster hall, i was in there a couple of hours ago watching the scenes. that is amazing. >> that is really interesting that you bring up diana, because i was, here and i was in the crowd. people were angry, and there were catholics literally making the sign of
9:08 pm
the cross, visibly in front of the mound of flowers. you did not know when charles was walking down that, exactly who was going to happen. there was real anger. >> i was out in the crowd talking, and yeah. >> not here. this is very quiet. >> but the comparison is interesting cause i couldn't help of thinking about it. completely different crowds, completely different circumstances. but to see harry, and william once again, walking side by side, different circumstances. it was not necessarily their choice so much, or at least harry has spoken since of the trauma that he experienced. the pain of being a child that is age walking through a city in front of millions of people like that. this obviously, they wanted to be there to pay their respects. >> he was a little boy. people calling out his mother's name. he is walking behind, he has got to listen, he's got to stand tall. this time, what
9:09 pm
struck me was very moving. he was not in uniform, because he is retired from the family. he has got his medals on, and he is walking next to his brother, his rain is not gonna be as long as his grandmothers. so the possibilities, you can see the brothers again. and that's what was -- >> i think it's really important that we saw the other side by side. it is an extraordinary thing, that is the third time that they have marched that route. because both the brothers were there for the queen's mother years ago. and i was thinking today, the memories, the royal family gathered at that funeral at windsor castle for prince philip. so, these events are sort of punctuation marks of all of our lives in this country. i think that people feel this one particularly deeply because it has been so
9:10 pm
many times that we have known no other. you have to be over 80 to remember the another monarch. >> way over 80. >> for all of the obvious split that has occurred between harry and william, it was a choice made by the queen who approved all of these plans, and reaffirmed obviously by king charles, to have harry and meghan so prominent on the way to parliament -- to westminster hall, the vehicle she was in, the position that they were given, i am told all of that was perhaps a message of trying to reach out. >> i think, for me anyway, i think we need to give a shout out to princess anne. she is doing something no other woman has done before. she participated in the vigil of princes. no woman is in that vigil. she walked in the frontline with her brothers. no woman has, the royal ladies
9:11 pm
including, meghan, were driven. the princess royal was right in the front. i think that she has given a lot of us women a really strong example of how to be in this. she is completely involved, she is walking as a woman, as a person, and i think a lot of the people are warm to her. i think she is becoming, this horrible term, the breakout star of this. >> she was there when her mother died. it happened to be an undertaking engagement in scotland. she was there. she was very, very close to her. mother she used harangue her every day. it was the only bought daughter, she had that kind of relationship. she is a fascinating woman, the princess, and i was there for her 70th birthday. i was making a film about her. and she just has so much life. she has a tiny operation at the palace. she does not really like big stuff. she doesn't even like lunch, actually. she can go through a whole day on a kiwi fruit. that
9:12 pm
is her secret. and she adored her mother. and she was there at the end. she was the one who had to break the news to everybody that they need to come up there fast. i think it was magnificent in scotland. she was the one who accompanied her mother on that extraordinary journey across the highlands and flew back with the coffin last night. so yes, she has been a big star. >> i have never even heard about anne before, her kids are not royal, she refused titles for them. all of this. she suddenly looks like something that is very strong about this country. and not only her mother, but something about this country that has been very moving for me, she got along with it. >> you said in the past that the royal family are the last silent film stars. could you just explain what that means? >> we, most of us, most people, project on this family. most people will never meet them, will never be near them, will never talk to them. yet, what the royal family does, and i think they do it consciously is
9:13 pm
to become this sort of vessel in which people project on them. so, a lot of these people who are out here, i bet if we talk to them, they would also talk to you about the queen. but they would also talk about their family. or something that happened to them. >> that is an interesting point. so many echoed that a little bit earlier. when watching people coming to see the queen's coffin, part of the morning is not just for the queen, it is memories that they have had of their grandmother watching something their grandmother said about it, watching with their mother. >> absolutely. >> she represents grandmothers. she represents, i mean, there are so many ways that she touches on peoples lives. but it is interesting you say that. one thing that struck me, i always ask people, did you ever meet the queen, did you ever see her? of course, most people did not meet her, they couldn't. but it amazing how many people, they remember when prince charles came to their
9:14 pm
school, and princess anne came to the hospital, the royal family, day after day, over a much longer period than any politician, they just invested in the sort of fabric of british life. and i always say to people, have you seen them? i did see one in the royal family, i go who is a member of parliament. >> i met the queen and i met the king, and these people are trained, they know exactly how to look at you, and they are very present. it is interesting. >> thank you so much. really, a pleasure again. just ahead, more on how their grandmother's passing has provided an opportunity for a truce between brother harry, and may lead to something else. next, ukraine, a solemn moment for ukraine's president zelenskyy, and as well as a scare for him back in kyiv. we will have the latest. kyiv. we will have the latest. striving to reach the ultimate goal of zero poverty takes more than everyone's hopes and dreams. at citi, it takes a financial commitment to companies who empower people to lift themselves up. it takes funding and building on our know-how to help communities grow.
9:15 pm
that's how citi is helping create a better future by committing one trillion dollars in sustainable finance by 2030. because it takes everything to reach zero poverty. ♪ ♪ carvana's had a lot of firsts. 100 percent online car buying, car vendinding machines, and now putting you in control of your financing. at carvana, get personalized terms, browse for cars that fit your budget, then customize your downpayment and monthly payment. and these aren't made up numbers, it's what you'll really pay, right down to the penny. wheather you're shopping or just looking, it only takes a few seconds and it won't affect your credit score. finally, a totally different way to finance your ride only from carvana. we're a different kind of dentistry. one who believes in doing anything it takes to make dentistry work for your life. so we offer a complete exam and x-rays free to new patients without insurance - everyday. plus, patients get 20% off their treatment plan.
9:16 pm
we're on your corner and in your corner every step of the way. because your anything is our everything. aspen dental. anything to make you smile. book today at aspendental.com, walk in, or call 1-800-aspendental. ♪ it wasn't me by shaggy ♪ you're never responsible for unauthorized purchases on your discover card. [ coughing/sneezing ] [ door knocking ] dude, you coming? because the only thing dripping should be your style! plop plop fizz fizz, winter warriors with alka-seltzer plus cold & flu relief. ♪take your hat off make yourself at home♪ ♪how about stay the night then strut on home♪ ♪day 1, i'm in love with your strut♪ ♪day 2, i'm in love with your strut♪ ♪day 3, i'm in love with your strut♪ ♪guess what, i'm in love with your strut♪ ♪i like your strut,♪
9:17 pm
♪do you wanna go struttin' struttin'♪ ♪you like my strut♪ ♪do you wanna go struttin' struttin'♪ ♪you like my strut♪ ♪then let's go struttin' right now♪ ♪ when moderate to severe ulcerative colitis persists... put it in check with rinvoq, a once-daily pill. when uc got unpredictable,... i got rapid symptom relief with rinvoq. check. when uc held me back... i got lasting, steroid-free remission with rinvoq. check. and when uc got the upper hand... rinvoq helped visibly repair the colon lining. check. rapid symptom relief. lasting, steroid-free remission. and a chance to visibly repair the colon lining. check. check. and check. rinvoq can lower your ability to fight infections, including tb. serious infections and blood clots, some fatal; cancers, including lymphoma and skin cancer; death, heart attack, stroke, and tears in the stomach or intestines occurred. people 50 and older... with at least 1 heart disease risk factor have higher risks.
9:18 pm
don't take if allergic to rinvoq... as serious reactions can occur. tell your doctor if you are or may become pregnant. put uc in check and keep it there, with rinvoq. ask your gastroenterologist about rinvoq. and learn how abbvie could help you save. we'll have more on the viewing tonight in the ceremonies here in london ahead, but -- particularly out of ukraine tonight, we learned a short
9:19 pm
time ago that president zelenskyy was in a minor car crash. no serious injuries reported. earlier today, he visited the liberated city of izium where he presided over a moment of silence for those who have lost their lives in the fighting and the occupation. ben wedeman joins us live from kyiv. ben, what was the presidential reaction, president zelenskyy's reaction, seeing this area of the countries that it's been taken back, remarkably, from the russians? >> as you said, anderson, it was a solemn ceremony when he was there to raise the ukrainian flag over izium. but he expressed shock. shock at what he saw. some ukrainian officials are saying that as many as a thousand people were killed in that city during the russian occupation. now, at this point, ukrainians
9:20 pm
say they have retaken about 6000 square kilometers. that's 2300 square miles from the russians just in the last two weeks. his presence there was pretty impressive. he was only about nine miles from what is still a very active russian front. and certainly, for many people here, they contrasted his appearance, embracing the soldiers, the civilians in that city, compared to the images we've seen of president vladimir putin of russia, who rarely goes out, and when he does meet with people, it's usually at the end of a very long table. so this certainly shows that the ukrainians are starting to feel a lot more confident in this war. i think we're day 204 at this point. but certainly, the atmosphere has changed dramatically in the last two weeks. anderson. >> yeah. a huge cause for celebration, obviously. still a lot of fighting ahead. has the ukrainian government given any sense of what their next move is? >> well.
9:21 pm
officials are indicating that perhaps as far as the kharkiv offensive goes, they may start to slow things down just to secure the territory that they've liberated. and perhaps, start focusing on the southern front around the city of kherson. so far, the largest city occupied by the russians since the war began on the 24th of february. apparently, that could be a somewhat more difficult battle, because we understand what you described as elite russian troops have been deployed there and anticipation of a much talked about ukrainian offensive in that area. anderson. >> ben, stay with us. i want to bring in cnn military analyst retired army general wesley clark. former nato supreme allied
9:22 pm
commander. general clark, i'm wondering what your reaction is to ben's reporting. general, has president zelenskyy's trip to the celebrated area a sign of leadership? was the risk worth the benefit? >> absolutely. it is a sign of leadership. he's played this exactly right from the beginning, anderson. he's a very charismatic guy. he knows how to represent the people of ukraine, and he's been really effective in using this tv enacting experience to portray the trial of ukraine to the world. which is a very powerful weapon for ukraine in this conflict. that's why i was worried when i saw he'd been in a traffic accident. that would be a great way to do something, if it had been a real assassination attempt. so he always has to be conscious of that. he's a huge target for the russians. >> ben, what is the mood like among ukrainians that you talked to in various places? are they optimistic about what lies ahead?
9:23 pm
>> certainly, the feeling is that a corner has been turned. this conflict, you know, they've had surprising victories, for instance, you'll recall back in april, late march early april, when the russians retreated from around kyiv. since then, the going has been fairly tough. i was in the donbas region one when sievierodonetsk fell to the russians. shortly after that, lysychansk fell to the russians. and certainly, there was a period during the early and middle somewhere where there was way that this was becoming sort of a bloody stalemate. ukrainian officials were talking about hundreds of soldiers being killed a day defending territory to the far east of here. now, certainly, the feeling
9:24 pm
among many ukrainians is that the russians have not only been fought to a standstill. now, they are retreating in disarray, leaving behind hundreds of millions of dollars worth of military equipment, soldiers being captured, soldiers clearly poorly led, poorly supplied, poorly trained, and completely incapable of stopping this ukrainian advance. anderson. >> general clark, once there's been a reversal on the battlefield like this, or a momentum on the battlefield, and coupled with crushed morale and inefficient supplying of the other army, how hard is that for russian troops to try to reverse that? how hard is it for russian leaders to try to reverse that? or does success breed more success? >> i think success does breed more success, at least in the near term, anderson. i think it'll be difficult for
9:25 pm
the russians to immediately turn this around. think of this. you've got demoralized soldiers. we've got units who's missing key personnel. we've got equipment that's missing. someone has to reorganize all that. they have to put it back into place. what we've seen is that the military -- logistics is not very good, a very good at maintaining its equipment. it's lost a lot of its key leadership at high levels. so, they may not have the leadership to put this together quickly. so i think this is a real difficulty for the russians and in the south. and this, off the demoralization has got to be creaking -- creeping in on them. they see their logistics lying suffered. -- internet what's happened in the north. they've got to have real doubts. so, i think it really is a
9:26 pm
shift in momentum. now, on the ukrainian side, you've got to be very careful that you don't run your logistics and resupply. you've got a lot of tired soldiers. there may be exhilarated, what they need to be re-supplied. they need a couple good nights rest. the weapons need to be cleaned. there's stuff that's broken. radio communications need to be restored. so on, so far. if they're gonna bring up reserves, and you're gonna have to put in some fortifications to look at the major avenues for approaching your position. so there's a lot of work being done to hold on to this. normally, you'd expect a counterattack. i'd be surprised if it doesn't happen. and -- to start with. so, gotta be prepared for a lot of heavy artillery coming in. >> general wesley clark, appreciate it. ben wedeman as well. be careful, thank you. u.s. politics now, the latest example -- lindsey graham's 14-week abortion ban has exposed a republican split on abortion just two months before midterms. that's next. secret had ph balancing minerals; and it helps eliminate odor, instead of just masking it. so pull it in close. secret works.
9:27 pm
new projects means new project managers. you need to hire. i need indeed. indeed you do. when you sponsor a job, you immediately get your shortlist of quality candidates, whose resumes on indeed match your job criteria. visit indeed.com/hire and get started today. technically when enamel is gone, you cannot get it back. but there are ways you can repair it. i'm excited about pronamel repair because it penetrates deep into the tooth to help actively repair acid-weakened enamel. i recommend pronamel repair to my patients. becoming a morning person starts the night before with new neuriva relax and sleep. it has l-theanine to help me relax from daily stress. plus, shoden ashwagandha for quality sleep. so i can wake up refreshed. neuriva think bigger. new astepro allergy. now available without a prescription. astepro is the first and only 24-hour steroid free spray. while other allergy sprays take hours astepro starts working in 30 minutes. so you can...
9:28 pm
astepro and go. my moderate to severe plaque psoriasis... the burning, itching. the pain. emerge tremfyant®. with tremfya®, most people saw 90% clearer skin at 16 weeks. the majority of people saw 90% clearer skin even at 5 years. serious allergic reactions may occur. tremfya® may increase your risk of infections and lower your ability to fight them. tell your doctor if you have an infection or symptoms or if you had a vaccine or plan to. emerge tremfyant®. with tremfya®. ask your doctor about tremfya® today. [zoom call] ...pivot... work bye. vacation hi! book with priceline. 'cause when you save more, you can “no way!” more. no wayyyy. no waaayyy! no way! [phone ringing] hm. no way! no way! priceline. every trip is a big deal. clunky beige, plastic... or... presto... you choose. better hearing made virtually invisible.
9:29 pm
that's that eargo difference. so many people are overweight now and asking themselves, "why can't i lose weight?" for most, the reason is insulin resistance, and they don't even know they have it. conventional starvation diets don't address insulin resistance.
9:30 pm
that's why they don't work. now, there's golo. golo helps with insulin resistance, getting rid of sugar cravings, helps control stress and emotional eating, and losing weight. go to golo.com and see how golo can change your life. that's g-o-l-o.com. >> multiple sources tell cnn that conservative of house republicans meeting behind closed doors today got into a heated debate over an abortion bill proposed by senator lindsey graham. it's the latest example of how his bill highlighted a major political move for republicans less than two months before midterms. as the party gambling to -- overturn worldwide in june. cnn's congressional correspondent, manu raju, adds more for us this evening. money?
9:31 pm
>> gop leaders and hope that there would be one issue this week that their party could rail against. >> the u.s. has a serious inflation problem. >> and inflation continues to choke the american people? >> this is a serious problem. -- >> federal ban on abortions after 15 weeks. he's done promise this. capital including -- mitch mcconnell, distance themselves, telling cnn, >> most of the members of my conference prefer that this would be dealt with at the state level. >> the granville undercuts the gop focus to make abortion a states rights issue. putting a danger republicans and a difficult spot less than two months before the midterms. >> are you supporting this lindsey graham 15-week abortion ban? >> i'm reviewing, it i'm pro-life. >> is this helpful for you as your request to take back the majority?
9:32 pm
>> you know, every state is probably a little bit different. >> party leaders insisting it would never have enough votes to become law. most of our guys are going to want to leave it to the state. >> a lot of them are running away from the issue. >> and i think most of them are going to handle it, like i said, in their own way. >> ron johnson, a republican voted to restrict abortion at 20 weeks, will not say if he would back the 15-week ban. he said the issue should be left to states like his own, which has reverted to an 1849 law which outlaws a procedure almost entirely. johnson told cnn today that he wanted some more exceptions adding to the states law. >> you support the wisconsin 1849 law that bans abortion? >> i support going out to the states, and letting the people decide. that is what is on the books right now. i support exceptions, which it does not have. and we will have this determined by the people of each state. >> republicans hope voters will
9:33 pm
view the democratic position as extreme since they do not support restrictions, even in the third trimester of the pregnancy. a position voiced to cnn to vulnerable democrats. >> do you support any restrictions and the third trimester? >> again, this is whether you are going to take rights away from half the population, and whether politicians are going to insert themselves into an examining room during very complicated and tragic and difficult circumstances. >> whether it is a woman making the decision in the first trimester or third trimester, they should be a decision between a woman and her doctor. >> and manu raju joins us. are republicans in the house planning similar legislation? >> the immediate aftermath of the roe decision earlier this summer, i asked kevin mccarthy, the republican leader, if he supports that 15-week ban. he says that he does. and just this past week, house republicans offered their own version of the 15-week ban. in
9:34 pm
fact, more than 80 republicans in the house signed on to this measure. but they are not united on this issue. in fact, behind closed doors today, the republican study committee which is a conservative group within the larger house of republican conference broke out into a contentious debate over this issue. one congresswoman, marjorie taylor greene, said this did not go far enough unwanted to a lot of practice. others said it went too far. so, on the house floor today, democrats were seizing on this issue. one after another, calling out republicans, attacking them on this, because they believe their midterm prospects have brightened. once very dim, it may look a little better now, and also, some republicans have agreed with that assessment, anderson? >> manu raju, appreciated. before we return to our royal coverage, another story i want to tell you about, the former governor of mississippi, an nfl icon, and a growing welfare scandal. text messages from brett favre are raising new questions tonight. that is next. next. it's 5:00 a.m., and i feel like i can do anything. we've got apples and cabbage. 7,000 dahlias, vegetables, and
9:35 pm
brisket for dinner. this is my happy place. we've been coming here, since 1868. my grandmother used to say, don't call me, don't bother me. i'm going out to mow. there's a lot of cushy desk jobs out there, but i make the earth take the shape that i want it to take. there are millions of ways to make the most of your land. learn how to make the most of yours at deere.com a monster was attacking but the team remained calm. because with miro, they could problem solve together, and find the answer that was right under their nose. or... his nose. my active psoriatic arthritis can slow me down. now, skyrizi helps me get going by treating my skin and joints.
9:36 pm
along with significantly clearer skin, skyrizi helps me move with less joint pain, stiffness, swelling, and fatigue. and skyrizi is just 4 doses a year after two starter doses. skyrizi attaches to and reduces a source of excess inflammation that can lead to skin and joint symptoms. with skyrizi, 90% clearer skin and less joint pain is possible. serious allergic reactions and an increased risk of infections or a lower ability to fight them may occur. tell your doctor if you have an infection or symptoms, had a vaccine, or plan to. with skyrizi, there's nothing like the feeling of improving my skin and joints... ...and that means everything. now's the time to talk to your doctor about how skyrizi can help treat your psoriatic arthritis- so you can get going. learn how abbvie can help you save.
9:37 pm
9:38 pm
my cholesterol is borderline. so i take garlique to help maintain healthy cholesterol safely and naturally. and it's odor free. i'm taking charge of my cholesterol with garlique. >> newly revealedtext message
9:39 pm
is raising new questions for brett favre in a growing welfare and public corruption scandal in mississippi. the state's former governor is also implicated. cnn's dianne gallagher has details. >> new court auctions filed this week include text messages that appeared to show mississippi's former governor helping nfl hall of famer brett favre secure millions to build a volleyball facility. money that came from funds meant for needy families and one of the nation's poorest states. a fact that favre's attorney claims the former quarterback did not know at the time. >> brett he coulnd't have been more honorable. he had no idea where it came from. >> the text messages first revealed by mississippi today as part of its years long investigative reporting into the scandal were entered into the states civil lawsuit on monday by an attorney for the nonprofit founded by nancy new, who has already pleaded guilty to charges related to the overall welfare fund scheme, which the state auditor has called the largest public fraud scheme in mississippi history.
9:40 pm
new's son has also pleaded guilty, or documents show that he knowingly transferred public funds intended for needy families for the construction of the volleyball facility. the batch of nancy new texts started in 2017, and appeared to show that they were working to secure the money to build a volleyball center at the university of southern mississippi, where his daughter then played the sport. on august 3rd, 2017, court documents show that favre texted nancy new, quote, if you were to pay me, is there any way that medium can find out where it came from and how much? she responded, no. we have never had that information publicized. i understand you being uneasy about that, though. the next day adding, wow, just got off the phone with phil bryant. he is on board with us. we will get this done. on that same day, bryant texted new, just left bret
9:41 pm
favre, can we help him with his project? we should meet soon to see how i can make sure that we keep your projects on course. four of the new text regular updates, forwarding each other messages from bryant on the funding status. on august 2019, favre tells nancy new he sometime in just a second ago that he has seen it, but you need to reword it to get it accepted. he then forwarded a message allegedly from the governor instructing how to rework the funding proposal, at one point, new asked confidential, do you get the impression the governor will help us? favre responded, i really feel like he is trying to figure out a way to get it done without actually saying it. months later, governor bryant knew whether she had gotten any of the new programs from the state's department of human services. new responded in part, someone was definitiely pulling for us behind the scenes. thank you, brian responded, with a smile emoji. neither favre nor bryant have been charged with anything related to the welfare fund scheme. in a statement, the former governor's attorney told
9:42 pm
cnn in part, cases should be tried in courts of law where rules of evidence govern and privileges are respected. they should not be tried in the press, or innuendo, and speculation sometimes get confused with actual facts. mississippi today reporter, anna wolf, told cnn she began digging on the volleyball center funding in 2020, asking both favre and bryant about the project then. >> and brett favre told us that he did not discuss the volleyball project with the governor, which is obviously flat out, you know, proven to be incorrect by the text messages that we uncovered this week. and the governor also, you know, tried to distance himself from the projects that he did not know anything about it. >> this is not the first time the former quarterback's name has been associated with this scheme. last, year he was forced to repay hundreds of thousands of dollars that the state auditor said was illegally paid to favre from welfare funds for speeches the auditor claimed favre never gave. the mississippi native said in may of 2020, that he had no knowledge the money he had received was misappropriated. >> cnn's dianne gallagher joins
9:43 pm
us. this is remarkable. all of this, it is a glimpse early at the greater welfare fraud scheme that is still being investigated, right? >> that is right, anderson. there are several different investigations with this massive welfare fraud scheme. six people have already been criminally charged, one of those is nancy new. then the state of mississippi filed civil suit in may against 38 people, including brett favre, now there is also an fbi investigation that is currently ongoing and i do want to point out that the former republican governor, phil bryant has not been charged and he has also not been named as a defendant in any civil suit, but u. s. congressman bennie thompson from mississippi did ask the department of justice this summer to investigate bryant and any possible connection to this absolutely incredibly large welfare fraud scheme that
9:44 pm
has just decimated the needy families in his state. >> yeah. i mean, millions of dollars, we're talking about. remarkable reporting by the people who broke this story and investigated this for years. investigations find now -- diane gallagher thank you. been separated since -- stepped back from his royal duties. but today, we saw brothers william and harry walk together in unison, united in grief. their evolving relationship, next. moderate to severe eczema still disrupts my skin. despite treatment it disrupts my skin with itch. it disrupts my skin with rash. but now, i can disrupt eczema with rinvoq. rinvoq is not a steroid, topical, or injection. it's one pill, once a day, that's effective without topical steroids. many taking rinvoq
9:45 pm
saw clear or almost-clear skin while some saw up to 100% clear skin. plus, they felt fast itch relief some as early as 2 days. that's rinvoq relief. rinvoq can lower your ability to fight infections, including tb. serious infections and blood clots, some fatal, cancers including lymphoma and skin cancer, death, heart attack, stroke, and tears in the stomach or intestines occurred. people 50 and older with at least one heart disease risk factor have higher risks. don't take if allergic to rinvoq, as serious reactions can occur. tell your doctor if you are or may become pregnant. disrupt the itch and rash of eczema. talk to your doctor about rinvoq. learn how abbvie can help you save.
9:46 pm
scout is protected by simparica trio, and he's in it to win it. simparica trio is the first and only chew with triple protection. oh, fleas and ticks ♪ intestinal worms... wow heartworm disease, no problem with simarica trio. this drug class has been associated with neurologic adverse reactions including seizures. use with caution in dogs with a history of these disorders. for winning protection. go with simparica trio.
9:47 pm
9:48 pm
>> among the many remarkable moments here in london today, the site of the prince of wales and duke of wessex walking step in step once again after growing apart.
9:49 pm
william and harry have been together through much together over this -- the years, the stuff in the family is a new chapter. richard quest has more. >> william and harry, marching somberly together behind their grandmother's coffin on wednesday. echoing a painful memory of another tragic time. 25 years ago, when the two young brothers united in grief, walked heartbreakingly behind their mother's casket. their bond, seemingly ungrateful. from the time they were little, the so-called air and the spare were always together, whether on royal duty or just horsing around. >> he's definitely got more brains than me. i think we established that from school, but when it comes to all that, i'm much better hands on. >> it's pretty rich coming from a ginger. >> harry was best man when the future prince of wales made catherine. then, it was harry's turn to web. william also serving as best man for his little brother. the two sharing a private funny
9:50 pm
moment caught on camera as they waited for his pride. the american actress, meghan markle. but it wasn't long after that that signs of a royal rift appeared to show. while on a tour of africa, this eyebrow raising comment by prince harry revealed much, even though it said little. >> we'll always be brothers. we're on different paths at the moment. >> in 2020, the duke and duchess of sussex announced their decision to step back as working royals. the extent of that fracture glaringly obvious. prince william then forced to carry a lone royal duties that the brothers had been expected to shoulder together. and then, there was the tell-all interview with oprah winfrey, from the accusation that catherine, princess of wales, had caused meghan to cry a few days before her wedding.
9:51 pm
to the more serious allegations of racism in the royal family, and a lack of support from those he was once close to. >> the relationship is space at the moment. >> the airing of the royal dirty laundry rippling like an earthquake across the atlantic. the normally stoic and quiet future monarch defended his family against the accusations. >> when their grandfather, prince philip, passed in april last year, many had hoped it would be the catalyst to start the healing process. it was a hope that seemed to be in vain. now, with the passing of their beloved granny, an opening, an opportunity. a surprise joint walkabout of the prince and princess of wales and the duke and duchess of sussex in windsor, where they greeted mourners. the first time in years, the couple had appeared in public together. later showing an intimate
9:52 pm
dinner with the rest of the royals on tuesday night, at buckingham palace. a sign that perhaps, this royal rift might finally be on the mend. >> richard quest joins us now, with royal historian keith williams. there's so much talk. it's impossible not to see, obviously, it is very public display, this very personal rift that continues. is there a chance of a new kind of chapter in this? >> i don't know. but i don't think so. the rift is deep, but you've got to remember. we've still got harry's book to come out. he says he's gonna tell it in the unvarnished way. you have the cut article interview that meghan dead. so they're still not missing any opportunity to put the boot in, to put it crudely. and, you know, charles says --
9:53 pm
how he loved his son harry and meghan, and the life they've made for themselves overseas. so i sort of believe there is an element of charles saying we love you, but that's your choice. >> some americans watching this, i've seen direct messages on instagram saying you shouldn't be talking about the sort of thing. british people are very focused on this. people in the street just walking, i passed by people in the street talking about meghan and harry holding hands, and arguing about that. >> yes. there's so much conversation about meghan and harry and william and kate. and i do think that this is perhaps been from the beginning as soon as meghan married harry, there was so much conversation. and i think there was, as we know, some very unfair criticism, things that meghan did that all the other royal women had done in meghan was criticized. that was simply the case. now, we're in a situation
9:54 pm
really, where they're often used as clickbait, but certainly, in this occasion, i do think that we see a unity there. i do think we see a possibility of a unity, and perhaps that meghan and harry can have a role in royal commemorations. they have significant roles. she was treated as one of the senior royal ladies by the queen and her plans. >> i think that's an important thing to point out. that's something that would've been not only approved by the queen, or decided by the queen, but also approved by king charles. >> i think a lot depends on what the sussexes do next. you know, how do they play the game? do they continue to beat up on the monarch, because by now, he's beating up on his father. >> so essentially, this was a handout, perhaps, by the royal family to them, saying that there is a possible future role for you depending on what happens next. >> right. but there's also a feeling in britain, particularly when it
9:55 pm
comes to harry, not so much meghan -- you made your bed. lie in it. you may do choices. and i don't know if that's resentment or and animosity, i don't think it's either of those. i think it's just a question of, you made a choice. >> it's so extraordinary to -- i was here obviously 25 years ago for the funeral of diana, to remember the children than walking behind that casket, which harry has spoken about as being incredibly traumatic experience. to see them there today, you can't help draw those parallels. >> yes. you are a young reporter than. and to think those days, it was so tragic. remember the coffin going down with that little card on top of the coffin, mommy, from harry. and, now the queen in the ground. it's impossible not to compare, and how much the brothers have been through in those intervening years. so much trauma and such a difficult time in the aftermath of their mother. and it was very sad about the queen, but it wasn't a tragic shock. dianna's death was a tragic
9:56 pm
shock for two young boys. really, i think it's interesting about harry and meghan's role going forward. because they asked to be half in and half out, but they do royal tours and also make their own money, the answer was no. but i do feel if the royal family is getting modernized, that has to be a future -- the royals can't have all these -- you have a job, and also do other work, like they do in the european royalty. that's our future. perhaps that's a way that harry and meghan could be incorporated, if they wish to do so. >> it's gone spectacularly badly wrong every time the royals have tried it so far. i agree with you that it's the future, but every time the royals have gotten involved in some form of commercial activities, it's always -- is always a shout of, you're selling the name. >> richard quest, thank you so much. kate williams as well. thank you so much for today. much more on the public outpouring of grief and respect here in london as the late queen lies in the state. this comes ahead of her funeral.
9:57 pm
plus king charles'calls with world leaders today. that's coming up next. ight phil? sorry, i'm a little busy. what in the world are you doing? i'm in the metaverse, bundling my home and auto insurance. why don't you just do that in the real world? um, because now i can bundle in space. watch this. i still don't get it. save up to 25% when you bundle home and auto with allstate. click or call for a quote today. a is for awareness, because knowing that your chronic kidney disease in type 2 diabetes could progress to dialysis is important. b is for belief that there may be more you can do. just remember that k is for kidneys and kerendia. for adults living with ckd in type 2 diabetes, kerendia is proven to reduce the risk of kidney failure, which can lead to dialysis. kerendia is a once-daily tablet that treats ckd differently than type 2 diabetes medications to help slow the progression of kidney damage
9:58 pm
and reduce the risk of cardiovascular events, such as heart attacks. do not take kerendia if you have problems with your adrenal glands or take certain medications called cyp3a4 inhibitors. kerendia can cause hyperkalemia, which is high potassium levels in your blood. ask your doctor before taking products containing potassium. kerendia can also cause low blood pressure and low sodium levels. so now that you know your abcs, remember, k is for kidneys, and if you need help slowing kidney damage, ask your doctor about kerendia. ["only wanna be with you" by hootie & the blowfish] discover is accepted at 99% of places in the u.s. ["only wanna be with you" by hootie & the blowfish] becoming a morning person starts the night before with new neuriva relax and sleep. it has l-theanine to help me relax from daily stress. plus, shoden ashwagandha for quality sleep. so i can wake up refreshed. neuriva think bigger.
9:59 pm
so we need something super disctintive. dad's work, meet daughter's playtime. wait 'till you hear this— thankfully, meta portal helps reduce background noise. zero lace model. adjusts to low light. and pans and zooms to keep you in frame. take a look at this. so the whole team stays on track. okay, let's get you some feedback. i'm impressed. great, loving your work. meta portal. the smart video calling device that makes work from home, work for you. ♪ ♪ this... is a glimpse into the no-too-distant future of lincoln. ♪ ♪ it's what sanctuary could look like... feel like... sound like... even smell like. more on that soon. ♪ ♪ the best part? the prequel is pretty sweet too. ♪ ♪
10:00 pm
>> it is notably quiet hour, perhaps the quietest period modern london has ever seen. there's a line of mourners stretching miles through the city, making its way to westminster hall, where britain's longest reigning monarch lies unrest. it's 2 am here in london, th