tv Don Lemon Tonight CNN September 14, 2022 11:00pm-12:00am PDT
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let's hand things over to don lemon. standing right next to me how you're done >> what a fascinating day that this all unfolded. certain times, certain stories that you know that you are in the middle of history, and there's just one that came over here seeing the cues, as i say here, the lines of people still right now at 8 am in the morning here and the lions are still extremely long. , good to see you wish it was under better circumstances. >> there's a whole lot going here in london tonight and we're gonna talk about all of
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it, everything that we've heard late in the broadcast, but first we have some new cnn reporting to bring to you, let's get straight from cnn's evan perez on that. evan, good evening to you, mark meadows i hear responding to a subpoena from the doj, what are you hearing? what are you learning? >> yeah, don lopez has been one of the big mysteries during all of the recent uptick in activity from the justice department. what happened to mark meadows? now we know the answer. the answer is that he has responded, he has complied with a subpoena from the justice department, part of the january six investigation, now this makes him the highest ranking trump official to comply with a subpoena as part of this criminal investigation. in addition to him, we also know that ben williams in one of his aides, a very top aide, of mark meadows, has also been subpoenaed as part of this big push. we recently reported that more than 30 subpoenas went out in the trump orbit. now with mark meadows, what we
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know is that he has provided all of the materials that he has given to the january six house committee that is investigating january six. that's thousands of emails and text messages from the period that covers everything from before the election, to january 20th. so that's an important window into what was going on inside the white house during that key period, don. >> and what exactly would they be looking for, evan, when they look at these new materials? >> well don, for the fbi, one of the things that they want is to get an idea of everything that donald trump was doing in that period. mark meadows was involved in a lot of communications with officials trying to push this idea that there was evidence of voter fraud. thanks to support the former
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presidents claim. that the election was stolen from him. these are things that he was doing, not only with officials around in the states. but also at a dentist apartment. he was sending them some of the conspiracy theories that they believed show that there was proof of some kind of fraud. of course we now know that there none of those turned out to be true. there was no evidence of widespread fraud, but those are the things that the fbi is going to be looking at to see mark meadows's involvement in that. it also could lead to ask questions of other witnesses who were again, right on the front, lines of what trump was trying to do. to try to overturn the election results in 2020. >> so evan, this new development again highlights that the doj seems to be very focused on anything to do with the former presidents efforts to overturn the 2020 election? >> don, look, they trying to connect all the dots, and it appears that everything, from
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the fundraising, to the effort to seat these fake electors in the states, to try to keep the former presidents and power, everything is being connected and now as part of this investigation. this is, we hear from the justice department, this is the largest investigation in the department's history. and what you get a sense up from the number of subpoenas that have gone out and of course reaching up to the very very top of the white house, you can't get closer than the former chief of staff, the former president, and it tells you that they are going all guns blazing to try to figure out whether there is any charges to be brought here. against everyone who was involved in the effort to overturn the election. don? >> all right evan, i want you to stand by because i want to bring in cnn senior law enforcement analyst and former fbi deputy director angelo mccabe. senior -- cnn chief political glory boulder. good evening to everyone here. i want to start with you andrea, i want to get your reaction to this in new cnn exclusive reporting that meadows complied
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with the doj's subpoena. he had direct access to trump and his state of mind on january six. >> yeah don, this is the old be careful mode where you put the line because he just might wake him up and it appears that the line that is doj is now awake and fully on the prow. we have over 40 subpoenas that have gone out and that we know about in the last week or so, and this latest development that we now know that mark meadows has complied with the justice department subpoenas in the january six investigation. just really an interesting developments. it also shows you the difference between a congressional subpoena, which mark middle east is from the january six committee. in which he is still fighting and a litigation. and the granbury subpoena, a graduate subpoena is a much more serious things. there is really no dodging a grand jury subpoena, you must appear, you must produce a
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record, the materials, documents, that have been demanded of you. and it seems that mark meadows is doing exactly that. i want to play so our viewers can remember some of what cassidy hutchinson said in her testimony about what mark meadows was doing. listen. >> i remember pat saying something to the effect of, mark, we need to do something more, they are literally calling for the vice president to be effing hunk. and mark had responded something to the effect of, you heard him path, he thinks mike deserves it, he doesn't think they are doing anything wrong. to what pat said something, this is ethan crazy, we need to be doing something more. >> would that have been the kind of thing that the investigates press them about? >> all without question. without question. they are going to want to know everything that mark meadows saw and heard and conversations
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he was involved in. his impressions of what was happening in and around the white house and the people who are coming to visit and speak to. and talk with the president. now to be clear, many of those questions he will likely it declined to answer as a result of or he will claim executive privilege. and that is fine, but you have to show up. a claim that privilege, good to say in front of a grand jury, you have to listen to those questions, and you have to invoke the privilege to each and every one that will feel that you should be answering. it's going to be a really [inaudible] >> this is the highest ranking former trump official that we know that has been subpoenaed in the federal investigation. how is it is going to be received and trump's orbit, do you think? >> i don't think it's going to be a huge surprise. in trump's orbit. because mark meadows was at the
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center of everything. he was at the center of the effort to overturn the election. one source i spoke with a while ago on this called him trump enabler on that particular issue. and so i think now that you see how this is has gone up the food chain here, that you have seen 30 subpoenas, and we know that the january six committee wanted to talk to him. we know that he gave them text messages, to cnn has reported. but we do know that he refused to comply with the subpoena before congress, and now of course, it is clear that he is regarding a subpoena from the doj very differently. i want to recall for everyone that while he was found at contempt by the congress, the doj declined to prosecute him for that. so now they are coming to him in saying we are heading to our own subpoena. and you need to tell us
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everything you know about january six. the other question i have, and we don't know the answer to this, obviously, is that he was also the person in charge of sort of gathering all the documents for the archives. those were to be handed over to the archives when donald trump was leaving office. we know that he has handed more documents over to the archives since the search of mar-a-lago. and i have to wonder whether eventually, that will be among other questions, that he has to answer. >> elie, i want to bring you in and get your reaction as to what you think this is leading and what this means for the former president, and his associates? >> well don, this is potentially a major breakthrough for the justice department if they play their cards right. mark meadows, i think we all agree, is one of the or the potentially most crucial witness in this whole incident. he with donna trump's chief of staff, he was by donald trump's side leading up to it and during january six, as we just
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heard from cassidy hutchinson. but here's a thing that's interesting. as gloria said, mark meadows was subpoenaed by congress. by the january six committee. he started to comply, he turned over all these text, but then he just stopped. he was faced with no consequence whatsoever. now this is an entirely different ball game. this is a criminal grand jury subpoena. evans reporting is that all meadows has turned over so far is the same motto that he already turned over to congress. so if i'm doj, i am not settling for half of this stuff. for part of the stuff. my subpoena says i want everything. i want all the stuff that you get to congress. and i want everything else that you have. and as any, said he really doesn't have much of a way to fight that. you can claim executive privilege, doj will probably take up to court if that happens. i suspect doj will prevail. go chase halfway there with a subpoena, it's good that they have all the step that the committee has, but doj has the power and the authority to do it all, and we'll see if they have the will to go after it all. >> if mark meadows comply with the subpoena, gloria, does that
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change the calculus for any of the other members of trump's orbit who received subpoenas from the doj and whether they should go along with it? >> well i think anyone who receives a subpoena from the doj ought to go along with it. and as we have seen, a lot of people are. mark meadows is so key as ali was saying, to all of this. because he was around donald trump all the time. he was the person donald trump turned to when i want to get this done, i want to get that done. he showed up in georgia during the election investigation there. he was on the phone with the secretary of state. and yet brad raffensperger. so this is a man who is very key to the doj's investigation into fund raising, if they collectors, so there is a lot that they need to cover with mark meadows for the january
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six committee could not get it out of them. so i assume the doj will be able to, and that i think that will have an effect on other people in the white house orbit. >> i think evan perez is still with us, evan i want to ask you if this is new reporting because i think cnn had previously reported that mark meadows spoke with trump about the documents brought to mar-a-lago, the national archives wanted to return. could have that come up in this conversation? >> well we don't know the full context of where this would go don, at this point. at least at the beginning, here he has gone over the documents that he had previously given to the committee. but as ali has pointed out, this is a criminal -- investigation, so we can't imagine that the fbi is going to stop here. we know for instance, the justice department is ready, they have already prepared to challenge the former presidents claim of executive privilege
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because they believe that they can pierce that with the approval of a judge so you can bet that once they get to that point, they want to do it with not only mark meadows, but pat saponi, pack bullpen. as well as the former vice presidents aides. these are people who have information, the fbi and the justice department wants and i think we know that one of the things that they are doing is that they are getting ready to challenge all of that before a judge. and once they do, that they can go everywhere. they can go to where you just talked about. including the mar-a-lago documents, classified documents that were taken to mar-a-lago, the justice department says that they had no business going to mar-a-lago. so i think everything is on the table now that had this has happened. >> i want everyone to stick around, we have much much more to come on this. mark meadows complying with a doj subpoena. we will continue to report this. also a lot going on here in
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that makes him the highest -- to have responded to a subpoena in the federal investigation back with me to now. our panel ellie, are -- cut contact with meadows if's former chief of staff feels the heat from any possible legal exposure, is there a chance that he can become more cooperative with the investigators in the future? absolutely, don, that's how people flip. if you gave me as a prosecutor if you said to me, you can have any persons cooperation, full and truthful cooperation in this will matter, i trust mark meadows i think he is perfectly situated if he comes fully clean to be the ideal cooperator. now it's important to know that he is not there. yet this reporting only shows part of the way. according to evans reporting, he's only turned over the same items that he already turned over to the committee when he knows that he was top of cooperation with the. that's not full cooperation. as i know, we don't do partial cooperation.
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you are either fully and, fully truthful, you give up everything, or you are not going to hack it as a cooperator. so the question is, will doj be able to get mark meadows over that line to where he gives them everything, if they subpoena him, that he really doesn't have much of a choice on the matter, other than to take the fifth. >> gloria, this news that mark meadows comply with a subpoena, comes after weeks of revelations after the classified documents held in trump's florida resort. how can these investigations heating up impact the former president as he looks towards 2024. this will definitely play into his decision, no? >> yes. but again, it's hard to tell these days what will play into donald trump's decision regarding the presidential race. i think certainly this is more of a headache for him. and i think definitively. we ought to say that this is a isn't good for him, the january
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six committee wasn't good for him, the fact that 30 of his former people have been subpoenaed and as former chief of staff, has been subpoenaed. it's not good for him. so it's very hard to say donald trump is a very good at turning himself into a victim. as he did after the search at mar-a-lago. i presume he would continue to do that. i think the big question here is, what is mark meadows decide to do? and what can the justice department get out of mark meadows we know andrew, even when he handed over thousands of messages to the january six committee, still withheld hundreds more. can the doj get their hands on those oh certainly they could, don, but meadows is a kind of a fascinating character in the story because he has been on really both sides of the fence is from the very beginning. he wrote a memoir in which he said a bunch of things that the former president probably didn't appreciate. then he resisted it the efforts
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of the committee, then he cooperated with the committee by providing thousands of text. and then he stopped cooperating with the committee and is now fighting their subpoena in court. so this kind of figuring out whether meadows is going to land permanently forever on the side of donald trump, or on the side of the investigators, has been really, is still a ball in the air. i think doj has the leverage and the power of the grand jury subpoena. that's a totally different factor for mr. meadows to have to consider. he is going to have to answer that subpoena in one way or another. there's no way to kind of push this off through litigation, like the side of congress. my suspicion is that at the end of the day, doj is going to get what they want if as ali says, they have the will to fight for it. >> you want to talk about that a little bit more elie, if they have the will to fight for, it do you think they have that
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will yes that's a big question, don. we say to people that were potentially cooperators, don't stop halfway across the ditch. you either jump all the way across and join us here on the doj side, or stay over there and we will deal with you as necessary so if there has been a subpoena already that essentially says, hey mark meadows, give us everything you've already given the january six committee, the next subpoena, if doj has the, well that's like now gave us everything else. and if he was this that, then potentially he becomes a target, but potentially opens up to criminal charges. doj has some tactical decisions but if they are serious about trying to get full testimony from mark meadows, and flip him, they have way more powerful tools, tools that are way more likely to be invoked by courts and the january six committee ever had. all right thank you all for helping us out with this new reporting. thank you so much. >> thousands of mourners standing in line for miles tonight to pay their respects to the queen, and they could be waiting days we have all the sights and sounds of this
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we're back now live in london and right now here in london, people are lined up for miles, waiting all through the night to pay their respects to the late queen. i wanted you to take a look at this because i've never seen anything like it. british people are giving really a master class in queuing, or lining up as we say. look at these people, lining up just to walk back their queens coffin. it's a little after 3 am here in london. look how beautiful the city is.
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they have been waiting for hours and this is going to go on all day and every day until the morning of the queen's funeral on monday. the line stretching nearly three miles. that is according to the government's official live tracker. it is a massive undertaking here. thousands of people, thousands and thousands of them filing past the queens coffin in absolute silence, every step of this. carefully planned and signed off on by the queen herself. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ richard quest and bianca nobilo are here with me. they have been with me throughout the days, about a week of reporting here. thank you so much for joining us. richard, let's talk about what
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we are witnessing. what we have witnessed and what we are witnessing. thousands of people queuing past the queens coffin, paying their respects to her. i want you to take a look at this, the procession of the coffin making its way through london. what was the most striking moment to you? >> for me, it was the music, the funeral marches of beethoven, mendelsohn, and chopin. and the starkness of just a coffin with the crown and the princess and the family behind. it was dignified. and it was extremely moving because it had been so well planned, but this was -- saying goodbye and recognizing that this back and forth between royalty and personality. >> i noticed that when richard
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and i and our colleague christiane amanpour was out front of buckingham palace, you couldn't imagine having to go through this, being a family member -- william and harry -- the difficulty of having to mourn in public like this and keep your composure and follow all the things that you are supposed to do as royalty. in a sense, you can't really be human. >> it's an entirely foreign concept to most people. as max foster reminded me the other day, these people have been raised with this expectation. it's also what they have been surrounded with and what they witnessed their entire lives. we had a reminder of that today, when we saw prince william and prince harry, walking side by side, behind the coffin. i think people in the crowd were heartened by that, seeing it as possible indication of symbolic unity between the brothers again. but what it did remind a lot of people of, was the two gentlemen, when they were much younger, 25 years ago, walking side by side behind their mother's coffin. this has been an expectation their entire life.
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people might think it is inhuman when they are so young but it is their life. and what is expected of them. >> they are trained for this, in a sense. this is their life. i agree they didn't choose it. and people can say harry has now chosen to leave it. but they have been brought up. as indeed as charles, from day one. duty. that is what the queen was all about. >> i have a very strong feeling that he will be back. >> i'm not going into that. >> let's talk about something else. what i do want to talk about is that king charles is on him. there is focus on him and william and harry, for obvious reasons. the person who has really taken the lead role and has been the most austere, and i don't mean that in a negative way, but sort of stiff upper lip, holding composure, is princess anne. she has really held herself well in this and can you imagine, having to do this? she is walking behind her mother's coffin.
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she is the only daughter. >> and that is another symbolic thing that we have seen in all this. the queen, it was her wish for princess anne to follow behind her coffin, her daughter in prime position. that isn't something we would've seen an monarchs past in history. so, that is an elevation of equality between female and male children. but princess anne is someone who is associated with never shirking duty and really having an understanding of the importance of duty. >> she has no nonsense, princess anne. if there is one person who will use fruity language and -- one of her dogs bit somebody in a park once. and that caused a bit of a -- she has been done for speeding before. she is very forthright. and she will let you know, she does not suffer fools gladly and we'll let you know when she doesn't agree with something. >> she also became the first female relative to stand and take part in those vigils as well.
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some of this is historic. and you see that true parity between male and female >> and she competed in the olympics in montreal as an equestrian. >> listen, as we said, you -- there's almost something that doesn't really allow you to be human because there are so public in front of so many people. but i've been watching the reports here, locally in london, about the king and that he is a little snippy. have you seen that? sort of pushing people away. being short with people. but he hasn't had any sleep. >> yes. there is an element of -- [inaudible] putting in a brought pocket. the man has been brought up in a way of getting what he wants. and being able to -- people saying yes. and sometimes, he has a reputation for being sharp. that is a way to describe it. he doesn't suffer fools.
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he wants things done a certain way. and we saw that. [inaudible] those who know and have seen him, he is a perfectly ordinary person. he sometimes gets overwhelmed. [inaudible] >> it's the 13th and the pen is leaking all over me -- >> some people take their rage out at the gym, some people with calligraphy. >> [laughs] i can relate. it happened to me while traveling. someone left a pen in the luggage bin. >> it dropped on your shoe. >> it didn't happen in front of cameras. i appreciate both of you. thank you very much. as we mentioned, william and harry, marching side by side today, paying tribute to their grandmother. but is it all a sign of a thought in their relationship? we will discuss.
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around the as people across the united world kingdom and around the world more in the queen, they are also keeping a keen eye on princes william and carrie -- harry. -- but as adults, their relationship has become strained and really complicated. william and harry, at least for today, side-by-side. more tonight from richard quest. >> princes william and harry, marching somberly together behind their grandmother's coffin on wednesday. echoing a painful memory of another tragic time 25 years ago, when the two young brothers united in grief, walked heartbreakingly behind their mother's casket. their bond, seemingly unbreakable.
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from the time they were little, the so-called air and the spare, were always together. whether on royal duty or just horsing around. >> he definitely has more brains than me. i think we've established that from school. -- >> that's pretty rich coming from a ginger. >> harry was best man when the future prince of wales married catherine. then, it was harry's turn to wed. william also serving as best man for his little brother. the two sharing a private, funny moment, caught on camera as they waited for his bride, the american actress, meghan markle. but it wasn't long after that that signs of a royal rift appeared to show. while on a tour in africa, this eyebrow raising comment by prince harry, revealed much, even though it said little. >> we have always been brothers
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and we are on different paths at the moment. >> in 2020, the duke and duchess of sussex announced their decision to step back as working royals. the extent of that fracture, glaringly obvious. prince william, then forced to carry alone, royal duties that the brothers had been expected to shoulder together. and then, there was the tell-all interview with oprah winfrey. from the accusation that catherine, princess of wales, had caused meghan to cry a few days before her wedding. to the more serious allegations of racism in the royal family. and a lack of support from those he was once close to. >> the relationship is -- space at the moment. >> the airing of the royal dirty laundry, rippling like an earthquake, across the atlantic. the normally stoic and a quiet future monarch, defended his family against the accusations. >> [inaudible] >> when their grandfathe r
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prince philip passed in april last year, many hoped it would be the catalyst to start the healing process. it was a hope that seem to be in vain. now, with the passing of their beloved granny, and opening, an opportunity. a surprise joint walkabout of the prince and princess of wales and the duke and duchess of sussex, in windsor, where they greeted mourners. the first time in years the family had appeared in public together. later showing an intimate dinner with the rest of the royals. on tuesday night, at buckingham palace -- a sign that perhaps this royal rift might finally be on the mend. richard quest, cnn, buckingham palace, london. >> all right, richard, thank you very much. we appreciate that. joining me now -- the host of the week. good to see you, once again. thank you for joining us. really appreciate it. what do you think of this
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moment? what do you think this moment is like for princes william and harry especially after distance and turmoil? >> i feel really sorry for them because they -- the last time, when they were children, united in grief -- but grief can also tear families apart. i think the press scrutiny of all of this only adds to it. because we forget, they're human beings. the minute they look at each other, anything, everything is interpreted. i really hope that they can come together. i do think, though, there are major impediments. prince charles, when he extended -- he sent his love to harry and meghan and their new lives in the states. i really do believe that unless prince charles does something to stop the incessant war between a certain tabloid that has been sued successfully
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three times and harry, nothing will change. because i think harry is very open about the fact that they thought that by moving away from britain, they would get away from that kind of tabloid intrusion. now, the other thing is that harry is starting to see, and he said that before, a part of life he probably never saw before. that headline, when everything was supposed to be good, almost straight out of compton -- then, a cartoon of them leaving the hospital with a monkey. in america, that would never be allowed and megan's very hollywood. i don't think they have always made the best choices. i don't know that they surround themselves with the best people. but it has been incessant bullying. it is nonstop. i really think, unless prince charles says enough, because there is a weird relationship between certain newspapers and
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the royal family. and i do believe that those newspapers have been allowed to overstep the mark and keep overstepping the mark. i think if harry saw his father or any member of his family turn around and say, enough! we might not all get on as a family, but enough. this is bullying. stop. i think that's what he needs to hear. i really do. before things can really mend themselves. >> interesting. we are looking at the video of him marching today. we saw it here all play out live. as the procession was going past me at buckingham palace, i couldn't help but focus on harry, who was obviously the most recognizable because he wasn't wearing a military uniform. what did you make of him -- despite having served in the military -- he was actually on the front lines. his brother, the new prince of wales, was not.
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>> so was prince andrew. but it's different in the states. in the uk -- in the states, a veteran can wear his uniform in special occasions. in the uk, once you leave the armed forces, you cannot wear the uniform. you can wear the metals over a suit. but not the uniform. but if you are an honorary member of the army or any particular -- then, you can. so there's this weird thing where prince edward, who didn't complete the marines. can wear his uniform and battles with an honorary title. and so can his brother. but the two surveying members andrew and prince harry, whether they were still serving royals or not, unless they were given an honorary position within the armed forces, can't wear the uniform. a lot of newspapers have been very quick to say that harry has been cast out. andrew has been cast out.
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and to put harry and prince andrew in the same sentence is beyond stupid. but it is trying to sort of besmirch them, if you like. that they are not allowed to wear the uniform. no one is! once you've left the armed forces, unless you're in an honorary position, no member of the armed forces is allowed to wear the uniform, once they have left. >> trisha, i always learn so much from you. we love having you on. be well. >> thank you. >> a last-minute scramble to avoid a looming railroad strike that could have huge economic consequences. will there be a deal to stop 60,000 workers from walking off the job?
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i thought i couldn't get treatment yet? well, people may think that their contracture has to be severe to be treated, but it doesn't. if you can't lay your hand flat on the table, talk to a hand specialist. but what if i don't want surgery? well, then you should find a hand specialist certified to offer nonsurgical treatments. what's the next step? visit findahandspecialist.com today to get started. high stakes talk between railroad and union officials heading into the late night hours as a potential strike looms. about 60,000 workers could walk off the job as soon as friday.
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and that could cause massive damage to the economy. amtrak already canceling all of its long distant routes ahead of a potential strike and warning there are more to come. here is cnn's pete montene. >> it is the latest effort to put the brakes on a possible rail worker strike that could deal a major blow to the economy. bosses representing unions and railroads met with a labor secretary in a last-ditch effort to reach a deal by midnight thursday. that is when 60,000 workers could walk off the job in solidarity with trained engineers fighting for sick time. a strike will mean freight rail, which makes up 40% of all freight in the u.s., will grind to a halt, impacting everything from parts for cars to fertilizer for farming. >> transportation is a big part of the cost to the consumer. and i don't know that there is one person in the country that it will not affect. >> starting thursday, some railroads will stop accepting shipments of grain.
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critical to feed livestock and potentially further driving up costs at supermarkets. rail passengers will be impacted too. amtrak is canceling all of its long distance routes, outside of the northeast corridor. in chicago, nine of 11 commuter lines will stop when a strike begins. >> i have been commuting from the suburbs to chicago now for over 30 years. i can ever remember this happening. it could take two hours if i'm driving. on the train, 40 minutes. >> with midterm elections on the horizon, the pressure is on the biden administration to reach a resolution. the president himself has called unions and employers, pushing them to resolve their differences. if a freight rail shutdown does happen, trucking company say, they cannot pick up the slack. >> it starts with a very small impact. but it grows geometrically. >> one more possible impact of all of this, water treatment facilities are now worried they
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will not be able to get chlorine which is often sent by rail and critical to cleaning water. they are warning that boil water advisories may start popping up nationwide if this rail worker strike does in fact happen. >> pete, thank you so much. appreciate that. next, more on our cnn exclusive reporting. former white house chief of has come out of the doj subpoena and generous its probe. we're carvana the company who invented car vending machines and buying a car 100 percent online now we've created a brand new way for you to sell your car
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former nixon counsel mike dean and elliott williams. so happy to have you all along to go with this new reporting. evan, this is your reporting. you're part of the team behind this reporting. what are you learning? >> don, we know the justice department served the subpoena on mark meadows. he is of course the former chief of staff of the former president. what they've gotten sent is thousands of texts and emails. these are ones that he already provided to the house committee that's investigating january 6th and as you pointed out, this makes him the highest ranking official -- trump official to -- known to have been served a subpoena as part of this criminal investigation. mark meadows, of course, had a front seat to all of the efforts by the former president to overturn the election. he was in touch with state officials. he was trying to push prosecutors at the justice
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department to say there was evidence of fraud when we of course know there was no evidence of fraud, certainly to the level -- to make a difference in the election. we also know that he was sending over some conspiracy theorists the president was trying to push all in the idea there was enough fraud to make a difference in the election and the idea that the election was stolen from donald trump. so we know that he has complied with the subpoena. we also know that ben williamson, top aide of mark meadows, also received a subpoena recently as part of this big group of subpoenas that went out just before the 60-day quiet period of the justice department. we're told he was asked for everything related to january 6th. you know, again, this is something that we knew, you know, that meadows was somebody that everybody was asking what happened to mark meadows. now we know. he did receive a subpoena. he did comply with that subpoena
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