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the sister of paul whelan. both of those families have been pushing for a meeting with president biden and they will get their independent meetings tomorrow. no serious breakthrough for him to present, but they continue to work on this. >> kylie atwood, thank you very much. we'll watch what happens tomorrow. i'm wolf blitzer in "the situation room." erin burnett "outfront" starts right now. yoourcgovernor ron desantis backing down after sending planes of migrants to martha's vineyards. president trump making a thinly veiled threat. should he be indicted and cricke contradicting his own legal team. is there a split or are they closer than ever militarily?
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let's go "outfront." good evening. ou a cruel political stunt, those are the words from the white house after the florida governor ron desantis sent two planes full of migrants to the wealthy enclave of martha's vineyard. >> what they are doing is a political stunt, and it's -- it's really just disrespectful to humanity. it doesn't afford them dignity. it is just cruel. >> so here's what happened. 50 migrants, including children, arrived at the vacation destination with no warning, according to local officials. planes just and landed that's who got off. local leaders say they're now trying to move heaven and earth to provide the families with food, clothing, and shelter. they have nothing. it's a challenge for an island that has only one homeless shelter with room for only ten people. as for governor ron desantis, he is proudly taking credit for
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this. >> we are not a sanctuary state, and it's better to be able to go to a sanctuary jurisdiction. and yes, we will help facilitate that transport for you to go to greener pastures. >> facts matter here, whether or not florida is a sanctuary state, these migrants didn't come from florida, so they weren't seeking sanctuary there at all. the migrants desantis flew to massachusetts were not florida. he had to go to texas to find them. so the texas governor's office says they weren't involved in the initial planes. initial was their word -- to martha's yard. this could be just the beginning. okay, according to officials in massachusetts, the migrants were promised jobs and housing before they left. in reality, they were left in a parking lot. some of them even had text messages from people who went by just one name promising them a job and other things that they got on the plane. there's a lot here to unpack, but the move by desantis is a clear escalation of what republican governors have been
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doing for months. since the beginning of the year, texas governor greg abbott bussed 8,000 migrants to washington, d.c., and 2,500 to new york city. 600 to chicago. the arizona governor doug ducey bussed more than 1,800 migrants to the nation's capital. it's forcing democrats like new york city's mayor jerome adams to admit that he needs help. adam saying quote in this reality where we expect more, the city system is nearing its breaking point. of course we should note if you live in those states in the south, they've had about 1 million over the past eight months come over the border. so it is a reality that they live every day. in washington, d.c., today over 100 migrants were dropped off outside vice president kamala harris' home in another political move. mayor muriel bowser asked for the national guard to step in twice. each time she was denied. bowser saying today her city is not equipped to handle the influx of migrants. >> we're not a border town.
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we don't have an infrastructure to handle this type of level of immigration to our city. >> miguel marquez begins our coverage in martha's vineyard tonight. you had a chance to speak to people there. what have you learned about the situation? >> reporter: yeah, look, two parts. the people here in martha's vineyard are stepping up. i want to show you what's happening right now. lawyers who've been chatting with the immigrants there, they are giving a very brief sort of preview of what they've heard today so that in the days ahead, maybe a day or two, most of the people who are here in martha's vineyard tonight will be on to other locations. this man was in san antonio, texas, yesterday, along with 50 other venezuelan migrants. today he's in martha's vineyard. when you got off the plane, i
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asked him, what did you think of this place? beautiful, gorgeous. the people are friendly. in texas he was promised help if he got on the plane. no idea where he was going. there were three options, he says, washington, utah, here in massachusetts, whatever was available. the plane left and brought us here. it's a tactic we've seen in texas, arizona, and now florida. republican governors shipping migrants to so-called sanctuary cities and states with little to no notice. >> there's no low that these people will go. they'll keep going lower and lower, and they're willing to use humans, children, women, families as political pawns for their own gain. it is depraved, it is evil, it is wrong. but what makes america great is what we see here today, which is an island community and a the state of massachusetts is
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helping people here. >> reporter: this mechanic from venezuela says he's been welcomed on the island. he says he made a difficult month and a half long journey for liberty, democracy, and the promise of america. [ speaking spanish ] when you step on american soil, you feel at ease that you're here and well protected. you lose the stress of the journey we had to go through in seven countries. very stressful across all of central america. this parish house bustling with activity. volunteers and organizers working since yesterday to provide food, shelter, and immigration services. >> we got the bodies to do this. the biggest problem was the short notice. >> reporter: right. >> that was obviously intentional. >> reporter: just 20 minutes' notice stays airport manager, a deliberate move by florida governor ron desantis who is taking credit for the surprise trip. >> our message is, you know, we're not a sanctuary state. we don't have benefits or any of that. there are some sanctuary jurisdictions, and that would be
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better. >> reporter: but that message not sitting well with officials here in martha's vineyard. >> we're going to come together and support whoever shows up here. and we're going to make sure that people have the food, water, and shelter that they need. you know, ron desantis and republicans might want to play political games with people's lives. i believe that's incredibly inhumane to be using women and children and families as a political pawn. >> reporter: now, what they're talking about here, these are lawyers who've been meeting with immigrants here throughout the day and what they're saying is that across the board these individuals were lied to, were sold sort of a bill of goods in texas and brought here to massachusetts to martha's vineyard without them knowing where they were going. and of course, as you mentioned, the grand sort of bizarreness of this is that these were not immigrants who were in florida. they were in texas and moved here for ron desantis' own
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purposes at the same time a bus from texas showed up at the vice president's home in washington, d.c. so my guess is we'll see a lot more of this. >> right, obviously. back to the words from governor abbott's office, they didn't know about these initial planes, ini"initial" being the modifier that matters. i want to go to democratic state representative julian sear. you're there and you just heard miguel's reporting about what these migrants are saying. they were told that they would be going somewhere else. they were told that they would have jobs. they were told a lot of things that are not true. what do you have to say to governor desantis tonight? >> i mean, this was a cruel ruse, erin, that manipulated families, vulnerable families who were seeking a better life. you know, i just was -- i'm just down the street from you.
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you can hear the crickets. martha's vineyard is a welcome community. we have worked so hard to make sure that we are treating these migrants, mostly venezuelan migrants with dignity and respect. but this is not about -- if this were about sort of alleviating capacity at border towns or helping migrants seeking a better life, you don't do it by essentially, you know, a surprise, unannounced transport, right? massachusetts actually has participated in border-related efforts, i think, back to a number of years ago when massachusetts actually assisted under governor patrick, working with the federal government to help unaccompanied minors at the border. this is a shameless political stunt, and it's preying on vulnerable people who are simply looking for a better life and who in many ways -- these are all venezuelans, you know. you could argue that they're coming for a better life from a
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political perspective as well given the really abusive maduro environment in venezuela. >> so what happens next? i want to just hone in on what we heard from governor abbott's office, that they had no knowledge of these initial planes. are there more coming? do you have any idea what's happening here? >> so we don't know. actually, governor desantis is claiming credit for this. there's real questions as to who actually financed these planes. when you talk to the migrant families, it's clear that they were in san antonio, they were approached by a woman named pearla who promised them expedited work permits, housing, a real orchestrated, manipulative campaign, even to the extent when the planes landed in martha's vineyard, there was no notice to officials or anyone in massachusetts. but they went out of the way to make sure that there was a camera capturing the images of
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these migrants deplaenning in martha's vineyard. this is a very cruel, shameless political stunt at the expense of vulnerable people. >> senator, where do they go? miguel is saying there are arrangements being made, but obviously they are in the country illegally. what are you going to do for them? what happens here? >> we moved to set up a shelter akin to what we would do in a hurricane or nor'easter. this is a small rural community, especially in the off season. 20,000 year-round residents. the current shelter is only going to work for another day or two. there's been extensive conversations in massachusetts, dusting off the playbook we used for unaccompanied minors, and i expect we'll hear more. governor baker mentioned looking at joint base cape cod which is not terribly far from martha's vineyard.
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it's a 45-minute ferry ride and then a relatively short ride. that may be an option that we see to support not only these folks, also questions about other migrants who come to the state. i heard from colleagues in boston about a number of haitian migrants who've been coming on buses. this is something we're working more broadly to respond to, but i think we also have to really push back and say this is unacceptable, this is un-american to be exploiting human lives, vulnerable human lives for political gain. >> senator cyr, appreciate your time. thank you very much. >> thank you so much. we know the latest as he understands it there, he represents martha's vineyard. david urban, republican strategist and former trump campaign senior adviser along with van jones, our political commentator and special adviser to president obama. i want to start with the man we heard in miguel's report. he didn't know where he was going and then you heard what the state senator cyr said. there was a woman named pearla.
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some of these migrants had texts from her promising expedited work work papers and jobs if they got on this plane. obviously that is not the situation and nobody involved thought that would be the situation. yet here they are. do you agree with what governor desantis did here? >> so erin, i can't speak to the specifics here. i don't know anything more than what i just heard. i'm not prepared to condemn or praise either case. what i am prepared to talk about, though, is the overwhelming crisis at our southern border. at the end of this fiscal year, at the end of september there will be over 2 million illegal immigrants crossing the southern border, an all-time record. that's a direct result of the biden administration's failed immigration policy. their own customs and border patrol lead said under oath at a deposition on july 28th the biden administration's no-consequences policy is directly responsible for the
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surge. you heard earlier today -- you saw muriel bowser talking about how it's cruel, all these things are cruel, the city is not prepared. how about the city of el paso? do you think el paso is prepared for 1,000 immigrants crossing over a day? so the problem is the biden administration's lack of policy which is allowing and luring these immigrants across the border into a nation that's ill prepared to do it. >> van, to what david's saying, this is now the lead on national television and it's the lead on national television because of what desantis did. does that have any benefit? >> look, there's no excuse for tricking people, trapping people, traumatizing people who have come to the united states. >> human beings. >> human beings. there's a way to deal with this. i have a deal of sympathy for the folks in border towns. but if you want to deal with it, there's something called the national governors association. desantis could call them. it's a bipartisan group and they could coordinate this and say, listen, we're full, we can't
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handle anymore. you coordinate it. you do it in a way that's responsible and make sure your fellow governors and fellow officials can handle it. you ambush people by dumping human beings in front of a place where there's no services. that is a stunt. you're trying to make a point. you're not trying to solve a problem. so i think it's literally despicable what they're doing. >> what do you think about that, trying to make a point, not trying to solve a problem? isn't that what desantis did? he went to another state to get them to put them into a third state. >> erin, fair criticism. but what i would like to hear van say is that the biden administration has failed to do anything. the immigration czar, the vice president, has yet to visit the border. there's a border crisis in america. fentanyl is streaming across the border. people are dying in record numbers, and the administration has not gone, the president hasn't gone. go, make a stand. don't be in the rose garden with
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james taylor singing songs. go to the border and fight the war. it's laughable that the administration is now indignant. >> let me say a couple things. i know a stunt or photo opportunity is something conservatives have been calling for, but the thing is governoring by photo op and stunt is not going to solve the problem. it's not by dumping people here or go to a photo op there. you come up with real solutions. the problem is that the republican party has not put forward any solutions. they're demagoguing the issue. it's horrible for people. i'm willing to work with anybody on any issue at any time. but this is not the way you do it. >> van, i'm not condemning you, van. i'm not disparaging you. but i remember democrats demagoguing kids in cages for months and months and months. i remember the vice president going and standing outside the facility and demagoguing. now she has an opportunity to make a difference, and she's not even visiting the border. it's despicable. >> here's the thing.
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what they didn't do was to dump those kids out in front of services where there's no services. they didn't ambush officials. here's the deal. if it were your kid, your family member, me or you, getting tricked and then trapped and then traumatized in a completely different country, in a city you thought something good was going to happen and now something bad is going to happen, you wouldn't think it was cute or funny or fair. >> i am incredibly -- >> they made their point. where's the follow-up or leadership? if desantis wants this problem solved, stunts is not the way to do it. i would call upon the biden administration. if they want to open the door to this conversation, i hope biden brings all the governors in and they work it out, but this is not how you do it. >> i do too. >> it's embarrassing on the world stage for us to be doing this. >> i agree, van, and i feel empathetic for those people fleeing their countries looking for a better life. we'd be doing the same thing for our families. i am sympathetic, but i cannot
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condone an open border and this administration doing nothing about it. >> we got zeroing thank you both. good conversation. i'm glad we could have a good conversation about it. next, the breaking news. a federal judge naming a special master who will review those documents seized at trump's mar-a-lago. so who is he? it is a he. details next. the catastrophe averted for now. transportation secretary bacon on how he prevented a massive strike that would have impacted every single american. putin meeting with president xi of china today. are there cracks in their relationship over the war? or are they closer than ever? here's a pool party. ♪ good times. insurance! ♪ only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪
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(other money manager) so when do you make more money, only when your clients make more money? (fisher investments) yep. we do better when our clients do better. at fisher investments, we're clearly different. master has been named to oversee the review of more than 100 classified documents seized from trump's mar-a-lago. the doj and trump's attorneys going back and forth for weeks on candidates to review the highly sensitive materials. evan perez is out front. this is what we've been waiting for. who is it going to be? tell me who it is, what you know about him. >> that's right, erin. his name is raymond deerry, a senior judge in brooklyn, a federal judge in brooklyn. he is somebody -- the only candidate, actually, that the two sides actually agreed could be acceptable to both sides. and so what we know from the order from the judge, she says that he has until november 30th
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to review all of the documents, everything that was taken from the fbi search of mar-a-lago. she also says that he should prioritize looking and reviewing all of the classified documents that were seized by the fbi. so november 30th deadline is a lot longer than what the justice department wanted. they wanted something like mid-october for this to be completed. the trump team was contemplating up to 90 days for this review. one of the interesting parts of this review too is that the trump legal team will get to review the classified documents according to the order from the judge, erin. >> all right. so in this situation, seems like a pretty big loss for the doj. they had also given, of course, the off-ramp, as you and others have referred to it, and said, okay, we'll accept a special master, but allow to us review the documents while the special master is doing the review for executive privilege.
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and the judge rejected that, right, rejected their ability to do that. so that's a blow. what does that mean? >> well, it means that the justice department is likely to file an appeal. they've already said that they're planning to appeal. we expect that appeal to happen now within the next 24 hours. the justice department obviously was asking, erin, for her to delay at least that part of her ruling so that the fbi could continue reviewing these documents. they say that it is inextricable the link between what the fbi is doing and this intelligence risk assessment that was going on. she doesn't really buy that argument. she says that she wants to continue this stay while the special master is doing his work. so now we expect that the justice department is going to go to the 11th circuit court of appeals in atlanta to go try to get around what this judge has ordered, erin. >> but this makes it all go longer and longer and longer,
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well into a political season, past the midterms when trump could have announced his candidacy for the white house. he did, by the way, trump give an interview about the investigation today and made a threat about what happens if he's indicted. let me play it. >> right. >> i think you'd have problems in this country, the likes of which perhaps we've never seen before. i don't think the people of the united states would stand for it, especially since they know i'm totally innocent. >> so, evan, making that thinly veiled threat, and also saying he declassified the documents seized by the fbi, which his lawyers have not claimed at all. so he split with his legal team. >> i don't think it's thinly veiled. the former president of the united states is saying that if the justice department does this investigation and finds evidence to bring charges against him,
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that there are going to be problems. that's one of the reasons why you have seen, erin, the justice department take extraordinary action to, for instance, shield the names of some of the law enforcement people who are doing this investigation, some of the fbi people, simply because of the threats. this is kind of thing, the action they take in organized crime types of investigation. so we're dealing with the former president of the united states, and what you're hearing from the former president is that there are going to be problems if he is indicted. as you pointed out, he said in this interview -- one of the interesting things he said in the interview was he has declassified all of these documents. this is something that his legal team has not actually said in court. what they've said is, you know, we don't accept that everything here is actually classified. they say that they want the special master to make some of that determination. look, one of the things that this is going to prompt is an
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entire legal fight over what is classified and what isn't. you can bet that this is going to go not only to the appeals court, but probably all the way to the supreme court. >> all right. thank you very much. next, a rail strike, another economic crisis averted for now. the transportation secretary pete buttigieg will be out front. ukraine just scored a major success on the battlefield against putin's forces. you're never responsible for unauthorized purchases on your discscover card. i would say that to me an important aspect is too... meta portal with smart sound. helps reduce your background noise. bring that sense of calm, really... so you ce through, loud and clear. meta portal. the smart video calling device that makes work from home work for you. the day of the heart attack, i was scared. i didn't know what to do. seeing my daughter have a heart attack, it shook me.
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averted. labor unions and rail lines reaching a tentative last-minute deal to stop about 50,000 workers from striking, which one analyses says would have cost the u.s. $2 billion a day and lead to shortages of everything from food to cars. president biden meantime praising both sides for avoiding what could have been the industry's first strike since all the way back in 1992. >> this agreement is a big win for america with unemployment on record lows. this agreement allows us to
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rebuild a better america with an economy that works for working people and their families. >> what's in the deal? an immediate 14% raise with back pay dating back to 2020, and then raises total 24% through 2024. cash bonuses, $1,000 each year, and greater flexibility for time off for medical reasons. out front now, transportation secretary pete buttigieg who helped make that deal. secretary, of course, a strike would have had a crippling effect when supply chains are already under incredible pressure and have caused a huge problem across the united states. union workers still have to vote, obviously, when someone hears the terms of the deal, it sounds good for the workers, 14% raise immediately, 24% over the next couple of years. do you have any doubt that the union will vote for the deal? >> as this deal goes out to union members to ratify, it
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enjoys the support of the union leaders as well as the railroads that were at the table negotiating it, and an administration that really believes this is going to be mutually beneficial. it was not just a substantial pay raise, but something that was very important to them, which was more flexibility, because of the way it was scheduled, it was hard to get time off. that was a major issue at the table and one that was resolved by negotiators working late into last night and even early into this morning. and of course we stressed and the president personally got involved to stress to the parties just how important it was to find that deal space, to make that agreement because the consequences of a shutdown of our rail system are simply unacceptable. >> they are. and the workers worked through the pandemic, making sure, you know, the rail workers, truck drivers, the heroes of the pandemic, making sure that
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things moved around. they were there doing that. but when we look through these numbers, of course, you share the fears of everyone about wage price spirals and inflation. you look at 14% raise immediately, obviously that's back pay. but then 24% raises through 2024 bonuses. are you concerned that will feed through the system? then they charge more for it, more to ship, and more to the buyer and then all of a sudden you have an inflation issue. >> this is actually coming at a time when railroads have found ways to become more and more profitable partly through steps that have reduced the number of workers that are required in order for them to operate. so i don't think it is automatic that this will get passed on to customers. most importantly, what's most important for customers, most important for the system is stability, reliability, the ability to recruit and retain excellent workers. as you mentioned, these are workers who've been working on the front lines of the pandemic, just like our truck drivers, our
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aviation personnel, our warehouse workers, and others. they can't come to work on zoom. if they weren't working, america simply wouldn't function. so we owe them a great deal. and these negotiations, it's important to point out, they began in january of 2020. as you look at just the accumulation of how much time has gone by, that's part of why you see the retroactive pay increases being so important, and then an overall package that will work for them. the greatest indication, i think, that this deal is a good one is the fact that the railroads and the workers were able to come to the table and agree on it. it meant everybody had to move like every negotiate negotiation. no party got everything they wanted, but it's keeping the trains running and, i think, allowing both the railroad companies to benefit from having, again, those excellent workers they can retain, and, of course, workers benefiting from these hard-won benefits that they have now won at the bargaining table. >> i want to ask you about the story here from martha's
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vineyard. governor desantis sending 50 migrants there, governor greg abbott sending more than 100 to the vice president's residence in washington. here's what governor desantis said today, secretary. >> we take what's happening at the southern border very seriously. unlike some, and unlike the president of the united states who has refused to lift a finger to secure that border. now, what would be the best is for biden to do his damn job and secure the border. >> secretary, record 750 migrants have died at the southern border so far this year. there have been more than 2 million border appear had he asked him, also a record, by the end of this month. doesn't president biden need to do more for his part to address this? >> look, you know, those very same people who seem eager to take political advantage of this situation have often been people who have stood in the way of a
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comprehensive solution on immigration, not just in this administration, but in multiple administrations over time. we're talking about human beings, not political props. what we see time and time again is that when politicians decide to try to score political points by taking advantage of vulnerable people, it's usually a sign that they don't have concrete solutions for the issues that americans face. lacking concrete solutions for immigration reform is just one example. but i think it's part of a broader story where you got a lot of political figures who don't want to explain why they have been blocking $35 a month insulin for americans, why they stood with the big pharmaceutical companies against the president's work and the work that thankfully passed congress to allow medicare to negotiate, don't want to explain why so many of them even opposed the infrastructure legislation and funding which ironically i just announced today among other
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things we're using to fund improvements at the border like inspection facilities in texas. so you can either be part of the solution or you can be part of the problem. >> secretary buttigieg, i appreciate your time. thank you. >> thank you. next, putin acknowledging that china has, quote, questions and concerns over his unprovoked invasion. that's a pretty incredible admission to make. is there a split or not? and prince william speaking today about the death of queen elizabeth ii, his grandmother. for people living with h-i-v, keep being you. and ask your doctor about biktarvy. biktarvy is a complete, one-pill, once-a-day treatnt used for h-i-v in certain adults. it's not a cure, but th one small pill,
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tonight the ukrainian military claiming to have wiped out a significant number of russian troops and equipment in eastern ukraine, which is the latest russian setback amidst the ukrainian counteroffensive. in the context of vladimir putin today meeting with the chinese president xi jinping. this was a crucial meeting. it is the first the first time they met since the invasion. you may remember back at the olympics, right? this is the first time since the invasion. putin acknowledging china has quote concerns and questions over the war, which is interesting that that acknowledgment happened, because xi himself never even mentioned the war in his public remarks. josh rogen, our political analyst. josh, putin acknowledges china's concerns with his invasion. why did he do that?
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president xi didn't bring it up. was this the deal? you have to go out there and say i have an issue with it? what happened here? >> right. well, the beginning signs that we see out of this historic meeting between putin and xi are, on the one hand, russia/china alliance is getting closer than ever. we see the military exercises, the cooperation between china and russia in setting up a new world order that advances the war effort in ukraine. at the same time, it's pretty clear that putin is now the junior partner and xi is now the senior partner. that's not a comfortable position for putin. traditionally in the first cold war, for example, russia was also the senior partner or the soviet union, and china was always the junior partner. that's flipped now. putin is dependent on china. but it's a situation he can't get out of. but the bottom line is these two
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dictatorships are linked together and becoming closer than ever. >> it's interesting what you say. it's sort of like -- i don't want to put too much weight on my word choice, but russia is become a subservient state to a rising china? >> right. well, the bottom line is putin is under pressure. he's fighting the war right now. but both putin and xi know that in a couple years it could be the other way around. if president xi is intending on attacking taiwan, and we hope he doesn't, but he just might, but that situation putin will have the upper hand. right now putin has to say the things that makes xi happy. but in the end, they're better tied together because they're both aggressive totalitarian dictatorships allying against us. so he's got to play nice with xi at the moment. but in the long run, their fates are intertwined. >> with their shared foe.
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thank you very much. first on cnn, trump's former chief of staff complying with a federal subpoena as part of the justice department's investigation into january 6th. complying, and he's a significant witness. now at the center of multiple investigations. prince william revealing how difficult it has been since the queen's passing. >> it was challenging. online now we've created a brand new way for you to sell your car whether it's a year old, or a few years old we want to buy youour car so go to carvavana enter your license plate answer a few questions and our techno wizardry calculates your car's value and gives you a real offer in seconds when you're ready we'll come to you pay you on the spot and pick up your car that's it so ditch the old way of selling your car and say hello to the new way at carvana
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in the middle of a justice department probe into all of that and more. >> if prosecutors could fully and completely get cooperation from any person involved in this, i would think mark meadows would be at or near the top of the list because he had such close proximity to donald trump and because he was inside the room for so many crucial meetings and conversations. >> reporter: meadows has complied with the subpoena, turning over thousands of text messages and emails, sources tell cnn, the same material he gave to the january 6th select committee. but he's also invoked executive privilege to keep some dealings with trump private. so for federal investigators -- >> the big question, will he cooperate? >> i just want to find 11,780 votes. >> meadows could offer inside looks at efforts to flip vote tallies, install slates of fake electors in several states, and stymie congressional certification of joe biden's
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victory. >> i said how long is he going to carry on with this stolen election stuff. >> some of his allies kept the claim of a false stolen election alive even as they were advised against it. >> meadows had caught up with me. he said look, i think that he's becoming more realistic and knows that there is a limit to how far he can take this. >> reporter: he could also expand on efforts to get trump to return presidential records. meadows was working to get documents back to the u.s. archives before the fbi searched trump's mar-a-lago home and found classified documents. and as january 6th, as the pro-trump mob sacked the capitol, chanting -- >> hang pence! hang mike pence. >> reporter: meadows may explain why trump apparently spent hours
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making no effort to stop the violence. >> i remember him saying mark, we need to do something more. they're literally calling for the president to be f'ing hung. and mark had responded to the effect of you heard it, pat. he thinks mike deserves it. >> reporter: meadows and his attorney did not reply to cnn's request for further comment. it is not clear what he could do with federal investigators if he wanted to cooperate or what they might ask of him. this probe is getting bigger and i think beginning to touch almost every aspect of donald trump's attempt to overturn his 2020 election loss. >> tom foreman, thank you. >> you're welcome. and next, live pictures from london. thousands still lined up to see the queen. the line, the queue last i checked is about five miles. and we hear from her grandson, prince william. amage... choose safelite. we can come to you and replace your windshieleld. >> grandkid: here you go! >> tech: wow, thank you!
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tonight, the new prince and princess of wales, william and kate making their first appearance solo since taking their titles. the future king overheard telling the crowd outside sandringham estate how difficult this past week has been. >> challenging. >> doing the walk yesterday was challenging. it brought back memories. >> the line is nearly estimated five miles long. it is 1:00 a.m. in london. >> reporter: a new day, an old line. it started days ago. they've come from near and far, hundreds of thousands of people. why you here today? >> to go and celebrate the
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queen's life and pay our respects. >> reporter: from big ben to tower bridge. by lunchtime, the line stretched beyond four miles, and it could go longer still. the government warning it already takes nine hours. stamina is a must. there is little chance to sit down. >> i was at the coronation. i was a young boy. >> reporter: you were at the coronation? >> yes. >> reporter: and you're walking four miles? >> yes! why not. >> reporter: good work. best of luck with it sir. you can see there are so many people here. and actually, we've seen estimates that say it could top 750,000 over the coming days. people have traveled across the uk to be here, and even from further afield. i've met some people who flew in from south africa to be here. there is a multitude of reasons to be here, primarily of course to pay their respects to the queen. there is also a big moment in history, a moment they want to mark and remember, and they can do that by walking through london's landmarks, making new
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friends, sharing memories of the queen and their hopes for a new king. >> i think he understands what it is to be king. that's what he's certainly shown so far. >> reporter: what about harry and meghan? do you think they'll come back to the fold? >> i think they will come back, yes. >> i think they will come back, with what's happened. i think the family should be reunited. >> reporter: you hope they're reunited? >> they will. keep the fingers crossed. >> reporter: what about the new prince of wales and princess of wales? >> we love them. >> wish them all the best. we hope we will see one day when they sit on the throne. >> as the line reaches westminster, excitement turns solemn. inside, a deafening silence. everyone in their own way marks the moment. many overcome with emotion as they say their final farewell.
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that brief moment worth the hours and the miles. on monday, the queen's coffin will move once again from westminster hall to westminster abbey for a state funeral and a procession which will be followed on foot once again by her son, king charles, his siblings, other members of the royal family. her majesty will be surrounded by her close family members where she'll be westminster abbey. heads of state including u.s. president joe biden, dignitary, european royal, all there to mark her life in a two-minute silence before it concludes. and of course, the whole world is invited to watch. >> absolutely. anna, thank you so very much. and we'll be in london on monday to cover the extraordinary events surrounding the queen's funeral, as anna was laying that out as the uk and the world says goodbye to such a person who played such a pivotal and
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special role in global leadership and politics. cnn's special coverage will begin at 6:00 a.m. on monday. thanks for joining us. you can always find the latest episode of our show on our podcast. and you can search for "erin burnett outfront." "ac 360" starts now. good evening. on martha's vineyard tonight, residents are providing food and felter to migrants, human beings who whatever you think of the move, have become political pawns in what is now an escalating series of actions. the effect and likely the goal is to thrust immigration further into the spotlight less than eight weeks before election day. i'm john berman in for anderson. and this is the scene on martha's vineyard today after an estimated 50 migrants arrived on the massachusetts island. they were sent there in two planes chartered by the administration of republican florida governor ron desantis, though we are getting some information that the migrants might not have actually come from florida. more on that in a second
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