cnn's special coverage will begin at 6:00 a.m. on monday. thanks for joining us. you can always find the latest episode of our show on our podcast. and you can search for "erin burnett outfront." "ac 360" starts now. good evening. on martha's vineyard tonight, residents are providing food and felter to migrants, human beings who whatever you think of the move, have become political pawns in what is now an escalating series of actions. the effect and likely the goal is to thrust immigration further into the spotlight less than eight weeks before election day. i'm john berman in for anderson. and this is the scene on martha's vineyard today after an estimated 50 migrants arrived on the massachusetts island. they were sent there in two planes chartered by the administration of republican florida governor ron desantis, though we are getting some information that the migrants might not have actually come from florida. more on that in a second.

today governor desantis defended his actions. >> we are not a sanctuary state. and it's better to be able to go to a sanctuary jurisdiction. and yes, we will help facilitate that transport for you to be able to go to greener pastures. >> the critics call it a stunt. we should point out that last month, 1.8 million arrests, apprehensions or encounters on the southern border were reported for the physical year to date. that's according to customs and border protection. and that is an increase from the last fiscal year, and this one isn't even over yet. the move from desantis mirrors bus trips texas governor greg abbott began months ago sending immigrants to other areas, mainly new york city and the nation's capital. today at least two more buses arrived in washington, d.c., this time outside the u.s. naval observatory, the residence of vice president kamala harris. it comes after she made comments that the southern border was, quote, secure. so far as the florida chartered flights go, you may be wondering

why martha's vineyard? well, obviously it is a vacation spot for a lot of well-known democrats and liberal, including the obamas. last year, ted cruz introduced a bill that would transfer undocumented immigrants to 13 areas, many which are tony, and all of which are led by democrats, and it included martha's vineyard. we also know tucker carlson mentioned a similar idea on his broadcast earlier this year about how places like egger town on the island have zero diversity, which means zero strength in how they're, quote, begging for more diversity. he was being sarcastic, of course, playing on some of the same things that proponents of immigration often use, saying diversity makes the nation stronger. a top spokesperson for desantis got in on the act saying yesterday undocumented immigrants, quote, will increase the town's diversity, which is strength, right? now that's the political conversation, and we'll get to that in due time with our guests

florida gubernatorial candidate charlie crist. first, we want to talk about the migrants themselves and new details about what we're learning of where they actually traveled from. to do that, cnn has reporters across the united states on martha's vineyard, in florida, and in texas. joining me now from anchortown on the island of martha's vineyard in massachusetts, cnn senior national correspondent miguel marquez. miguel, you've been speaking with people there all day. what have you been hearing about their journey? >> yeah, these are folks that had all venezuelans, had a month and a half, two month, sometimes three-month journey to the mexico-texas border. they were in san antonio just over 24 hours ago, and then they boarded planes at the behest of these individuals who were sort of recruiting them at the shelter they were at, and then they ended up here. they weren't sure where they were coming. i want to show you how people have stepped up here in edgartown on martha's vineyard. these are people who are taking

names and people who want to help out, whether it's helping with translation or clothing donations, food donations, or monetary donations. the issue now, there is 50 people now staying in what is a facility built for about 10 people, homeless people here. they've had to increase it to 50. the issue now is figuring out sort of what the legal situation is for each of these individuals and where they need to be. because many of them have court hearings in other cities. we've heard one guy from -- has a court hearing in los angeles. another in cincinnati. some back in texas, some in washington, d.c., some in new york. so getting them to where they need to go in the weeks ahead is going to be a challenge. they suspect in the days ahead most of the people here on the island will move on to bigger cities and other cities in the u.s. but then the question is will more arrive. john? >> miguel, can you just make clear, they're telling you that this plane journey started in

texas? and then what? did it make stops in florida somehow? how is it that governor desantis is taking responsibility this? >> well, is the bizarre sort of turn. governor desantis has been very open and supportive of venezuelan immigrants because he does not like the government there. it is a very hard-core socialist communist government that he does not like there. so he has really held them in high regard. these particular venezuelans, though, were not in florida. they were in texas. it sounds as though he paid -- arranged and paid for the planes to bring them to martha's vineyard. the planes did stop along the way. but everyone we spoke to, we spoke to diseases of them between ourselves and our cnn espanol crew that was here. we spoke to dozens of immigrants here today, and they all say they were all venezuelans. they were all in texas.

that nobody got on, nobody got off the planes in other stops they made. and when they landed here in martha's vineyard, they literally had no clue where they were, and many of them were just -- they were blown away. one guy said oh, it's so beautiful. it's gorgeous. and another one said "i'm in love." john? >> and we can see the the community reaction there behind you. miguel marquez on martha's vineyard tonight. miguel, thank you very much. i'm joined now by cnn's rosa flores, who was in houston tonight. rosa, what more do we know about how all this transpired and how these migrants were even made aware of these flights? >> you know, the circumstances are very curious, john. my colleague maria santanas spoke to two migrants, and they explained it like this. they said they were in a shelter in san antonio, texas, and there were a couple of women who approached them outside the shelter by the names of perla and dulce. and they said these women were from organizations from orlando,

florida that helped migrants, and they put these migrants up in a hotel for about five days. they promised them shelter and jobs whenever they got to their final destination. and according to these two migrants, they thought they were going to new york and boston, but it turns out they ended up at martha's vineyard. now we're still digging into this, john, because, again, the circumstances are just very curious here. >> again, they were in texas. governor ron desantis of florida is taking responsibility for this. do we know if the texas governor, greg abbott, was involved in any way? >> his press secretary said that the two governors do speak, that they've been talking about the bussing of migrant strategy that we've been covering a lot here. but that governor abbott was not involved at all in the flights and arranging of the flights to martha's vineyard. now he did say, according to his press secretary, that he did

appreciate the help. john? >> all right. very interesting. rosa flores in texas tonight. joining me now is cnn's priscilla alvarez in miami. priscilla, what more you learning about what went into this decision by governor desantis? >> well, we're still trying to get answers as to what exactly went behind this decision, and the logistics behind these flights, which as rosa pointed out is a very curious situation. but the governor here has been teasing relocating might grants for some time, leading up to this week. and remember, governor desantis has been a fierce critic of the biden administration's immigration policies. and this dates back to last year. at the time he had announced he would deploy state and local law enforcement officers to arizona and texas when there was an influx of migrants. but he is now taking it a step further by joining texas governor greg abbott and arizona

governor dougucey. the question is where and why they were identified in texas but somehow transported via chartered flights by florida. we're still seeking answers to those questions. and officials are bracing whether there is going to be more flights going into martha's vineyard. john? >> just to be clear, once again, though, as you say, governor desantis has been talking about moving might grants out of the state. these weren't in his state. these human beings were not in florida, as far as we know. correct? >> that's right. and the other thing to point out here, john, is migrants when they are released from government custody have been processed, and many of these are seeking asylum. meaning they're going to go through immigration proceedings. when they do that, they can relocate to cities across the united states. i have talked to migrants who were transported by texas governor greg abbott to washington, d.c., and they had known and wanted to be in d.c., and they also planned to move to other cities. and so in some respects,

migrants are getting a ride here from these republican governors. in others, we're hearing that migrants are confused about where they are. but the bottom line here, john, is that it is catching cities off guard, and it doesn't allow them to prepare. and the lack of coordination is what officials are really criticizing here. >> all right, priscilla alvarez for us in miami. we were in texas, and we're on martha's vineyard as well. perspective now from former democratic congressman charlie crist, who is now running against ron desantis for florida governor. and crist previously served as governor of florida as a republican. we also requested governor desantis join us, and we never heard back. congressman, let me ask you, what is your reaction to all of this, to these migrants being flown apparently from texas to martha's vineyard? >> john, it's astounding to me. this is so cruel and so unnecessary, so uncalled for, and so brazen. it shocks the conscience of any fair-minded human being that the

governor of florida, ron desantis, would treat other human beings, these venezuelans the way that he did is unbelievable. i mean, what kind of animal would do that to other people? well, apparently ron desantis is that kind of person. and it's heartbreaking to watch. i mean, children being lured on the these planes with lies to their parents about getting employment when they would land up north somewhere. i guess they mentioned boston. you know, it's amazing that somebody would go to these lengths. you know, charter a couple of planes, send them to san antonio, texas, or charter them from there, lure with lies apparently somebody was hired to lure these people on to the planes, that they were going to have a better opportunity by going up north on these planes, and just taking advantage of them for a political stunt? as i say, who does that?

governor desantis does. >> governor, you say they were lured on to the plane with lies. do you believe that laws were broken here? i ask that, because both the u.s. attorney in massachusetts and nikki fried, the florida agricultural commissioner you defeated for the gubernatorial nomination in florida has said they're going to ask the justice department to look in and see if there are any laws violated. >> well, i've asked for that myself. i was doing a press conference this morning about this topic and was asked that very question. should the department of justice look into it. i said absolutely. of course. this is a humane -- an inhumane injustice that's being done to human beings. i mean, is this a way to treat our fellow man and women? of course not. and, you know, laws may have been broken in the process of this. i'm going to do a freedom of information request to the state of florida, to the governor's office to find out, you know, jot and dtittle, what happened here. who was planning this? why did they plan it?

how did they plan it? it's another example of ron desantis wanting to tell everybody to w.h.o. to do, orchestrating everything for a political reason, just like he has done to women in florida and taking away their right to choose. it's outrageous. >> we're learning that some, if not all of these migrants were never in florida. they were in texas. how do you square that? >> well, i dent square it. as you said yourself in the intro, he was saying he was going to have migrants taken out of florida if he had to, and kind of teased about doing it later on. as you said, these weren't even in florida. i mean, her had to go halfway across the country to pull off this stunt. and it's unconscionable. it's cruel. the guy's a monster. >> i do understand you disagree with the move, and you disagree clearly with the tactics here. but what about the underlying point that governor desantis and others have made, that certain parts of the country, perhaps the northeast, polices like martha's vineyard, don't grasp the impact of what they call illegal immigration, and that

they don't understand what these border states and border communities are dealing with all the time. >> well, we're not even a border state. that's what's rich about this. we're surrounded by water, and georgia and alabama to the north. so the argument doesn't hold up here. and the other point is -- >> well, governor abbott -- i'll say governor abbott makes that argument, texas. what about that argument in general, even if you don't think it's appropriate coming from governor desantis? >> i don't think it's appropriate period. you don't use human beings and children to try to make a political argument or a political statement. you can make all kind of arguments. the governor has a great bully pulpit. he ought to use that instead. and if people want to help us get rid of them, go to charlie crist.com and help us beat this guy. he is a monster. >> the vice president kamala harris had made the statement earlier that she felt the border was secure. that something you agree with? >> it's hard to tell. i don't think it is secure.

and i think it is important to secure the border. listen, i'm the grandson of immigrants from greece and from lebanon. i understand what legal immigration is and what it's supposed to be. we are supposed to be the shining city on the hill, the place where people can come from all over the globe to have safety, to make sure that you can have a better living for your family, enjoy the capitalism, the compassion of capitalism that is america. that's what we're supposed to stand for. ronald reagan used to call us the shining city on the hill. well, apparently our governor, desantis doesn't believe in that concept, and it's very disappointing and it's heartbreaking and it's cruel. >> charlie crist, we do appreciate you being with us tonight. thank you. >> thank you, john. and still to come tonight, we do have breaking news on the justice department's tug-of-war with a former president for the classified documents retrieved from mar-a-lago. two big legal decisions we want the tell you about that directly impact whether they can fully resume their investigation, and whether there will be a special master to review the documents. plus, an exclusive look at

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we do have breaking news tonight on the legal fight over the documents retrieved from mar-a-lago. two big developments, both going against the justice department. one involving its attempt to resume its investigation into the former president's handling of the classified records. the other the appointment of the special master to review those documents. cnn's sara murray joins us now with the latest there. sarah, what can you tell us about this ruling from judge cannon? >> well, look, we finally heard who the special master is going to be. it's going to be judge raymond dear. he is the only person that the justice department and the trump team agreed on. so in some ways, that is not surprising. now what the government wanted her to do, they wanted to be able to move forward with their criminal investigation. they said look, if you put forward a special master, at

least don't have the special master go over the 100 classified documents we found at mar-a-lago after the august search. the judge is saying no dice. the special master is going to review all of these documents. you are not allowed to continue reviewing these documents as part of your criminal probe. she is saying look, there is still other stuff you can do without having access to these documents. there are still witnesses you can question. the you can still brief congress on these materials, but you cannot be handling these documents, showing them to witness, presenting them before a grand jury, things that the justice department would like to do as part of their criminal investigation. and essentially she says she really doesn't buy doj's argument that not being able to access these documents would impede the national security damage assessment. >> all right. very good explanation there, sara. what happens next? how likely is it that the doj will appeal? >> well, doj basically told her, look, here is what we want. we want this carveout for our criminal investigation to go forward. we want to be able to look at

these classified documents. tell us by today what your decision is. and if you're not going to agree to this, if you're not going to agree to let our criminal investigation go forward, then we are going to appeal. so they sort of showed their cards in that sense. we have not seen the justice department's appeal, but they did give an indication before we got this decision from the judge that that is what their path is going to be. >> sara murray, thank you very much. and thank you during the entire break explaining to me the language in the ruling from the judge that i was confused by. very much appreciate it. >> thanks, john. perspective now from conserve lawyer john conaway, contributing columnist at "the washington post" and john yu, former deputy attorney general during the george bush administration, now a law school professor at the university of california at berkeley. and george, i just want to start with you. how much of a setback is this for the justice department? >> i don't know that it's going to be a huge setback in long-term, but it's going to delay them to some extent. i mean, this ruling is absolutely a disgrace. and i don't think it's going to take very much to overturn it.

i mean, bill barr last week told "the new york times" that the original motion by donald trump's lawyers was a crock of shit, a crock of shit. that's what he said to "the new york times." this opinion is worse than that because this opinion focuses on emotion, decides emotion that is focused on just the documents that were marked classified. and the judge claims in this opinion, without any basis, that there are factual and legal disputes about those documents. well, there are no factual disputes about whether a document bears classified markings. that's ridiculous. and there is no dispute that a document taken from the white house, stolen from the white house that belongs, that was prepared by government officials, national security officials, there is no dispute that those documents belong to the government of the united states. and even trump's lawyers did not actually make the specific claim

that these documents were somehow magically declassified by the brainwaves of donald trump. it just wasn't. and as your colleagues found, jamie gangel and others, 18 -- 18 trump administration officials laughed at the proposition that these documents were declassified. and it doesn't even matter whether these documents were declassified because the charges at issue here don't deal with classification. they deal with national security interests. this opinion is absolutely atrocious. and i have to say -- and i've never said this publicly about a federal judge in my life, you have to wonder whether this judge belongs on a federal bench. >> so, john, george has made his opinion quite clear here. and he quoted bill barr. neither of them sit on the 11th circuit. so the question to you, do you think that the department of justice will or should appeal? and do you think they have a chance of getting a mother favorable ruling from a higher court?

>> john, the justice department already promised that it would appeal. and the judge, i'm not surprised that judge cannon did that, because the justice department was basically asking her to reverse much of her decision, the most important part related to classified information. so the interesting thing is on appeal, the 11th circuit will look at what power did judge cannon have to undertake this remarkable and extraordinary step, which to introduce a third party, this special master into a type of situation where we rarely ever see them. on the other hand, appellate courts don't really like to second guess trial courts when they're managing things like search and seizures, when they're managing things like criminal trials. and the rule of procedure here gives trial judges the discretion in extraordinary circumstances which judge cannon here found to appoint a special master. the way you might think of it is are we going to prevent this trial judge from asking for the help of a special master,

someone like judge diere, who is familiar with classified information and has served on the foreign intelligence surveillance core. because if they say no, the judge is going to go ahead and decide the issues herself any way. i think the better thing is to work with the special master, accelerate the review of the documents. i bet they could even get through all the classified documents in the time it would take to appeal to the 11th circuit and wait for a ruling any way? >> what about that? the judge ordered to prioritize the declassified first. could that speed things up? >> oh, yes. that's the little area of give that i saw in the opinion that went -- that showed some effort to compromise here by judge cannon. she didn't just flatly reject the justice department entirely. she said i am going to tell the special master to look at the 100 classified documents first and try to prioritize them and speed through them. and part this because the justice department already said we're content to not use the

other thousands of pages that aren't classified, and we will agree to the district judge's order that we not use those at all in any criminal investigation. >> so, george, on another note, the former president was on hugh hewitt's radio show today. i want to play a portion of what he said when asked what would happen if he was indicted, and if it would deter him from running for president again. listen to this. >> i think if it happened, i think you'd have problems in this country the likes of which perhaps we've never seen before. i don't think the people of the united states would stand for it. >> what kind of problems, mr. president? >> i think you'd have big problems. big problems. i just don't think they'd stand for it. >> what do you hear there, george? do you hear that as a threat? >> yes, absolutely. i mean, he is basically saying what a nice country you have here. too bad if something would happen to it. and it's basically january 6th all over again. he's denying inciting violence,

but the fact of the matter is he is inciting violence because he's basically saying he's convinced millions of people that he is being persecuted for no valid reason. where when in fact he knows, and he's terrified about the fact that he has been caught stealing red-handed stealing government documents of the highest, highest security nature. and it's just -- by perpetratoring that lie to the american people, he is absolutely encouraging people to engage in violence. there is just no question about it. >> george conway, john yu, thank you both for helping us out tonight. i really appreciate it. >> thanks. up next, the republican rift over abortion on capitol hill. new details tonight on why senator lindsey graham is proposing a national ban on abortion after 15 weeks, and how that is not what he suggested just last month when he talked to our dana bash. chronic kidneye

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there is new reporting tonight on why republican senator lindsey graham has proposed a national ban on abortion after 15 weeks of pregnancy. graham's bill has put a spotlight on a major rift in the republican party over abortion, just weeks before the midterms. and what he is proposing is a reversal from what he told cnn's dana bash on state of the union just last month.

watch this. >> i've been consistent. i think states should decide the issue of marriage, and states should decide the issue of abortion. i have respect for south carolina. south carolina voters here i trust to define marriage and to deal with the issue of abortion. >> and dana bash joins me now with more. so dana, we heard what senator graham told you last month, and that seems to be at odds with what he is proposing now. so what changed? >> not a philosophical change, that's for sure. but it does appear that there is a political change of heart. and i'm told by a source familiar with his thinking that what has happened over the past month plus since he and i talked on "state of the union" is that he has seen the political reality that democrats are pretty successfully across the board in states, in races that

matter, not only leading with the issue of abortion, but defining the issue of abortion for the race and for the republicans running in the race. and he believes that it is important for republicans to have a unified national stance on abortion that isn't a total ban on abortion, because that isn't something that is widely popular, particularly in purple states. i'm told that his whole approach is you can't fight something with nothing, which is why he decided to push this legislation that has a national bit of policy saying that abortion is illegal after viability, but legal before that. >> do you have a sense, or have you been able to get a sense of what his intentions are here going forward? >> no, not necessarily his intentions. but what i can say, and we've

been hearing this from the hill is that this is very much, john, a dividing issue. republicans aren't unified on this at all. and in fact, i can even go further. some republicans like mitch mcconnell are kind of miffed because they believe that what lindsey graham did this week take them off course with the place that they believe their message should be, which is the economy, the economy, the economy, the economy. you saw the cpi numbers and other indicators continue to show that inflation is a very big problem for the country, and therefore a problem for the democrats who are in charge from the white house to congress. and they argue that it takes republicans off course and takes them to a place where it's not really a winning issue. again, graham argues whether it's a winning issue or not, it is an issue. so you either engage or you are going to have a political

problem. >> he caught republicans by surprise. these are people who don't want to be surprised it seems by something like this. so what are they going to do with this with him, as they head towards the midterms? >> it doesn't sound as if mitch sm mitch mcconnell is trying to push for this vote. of course he is not in charge. it would be chuck schumer, the senate majority leader who could have to voy have to agree to it. there would have to be maneuvering to try to push the vote on the floor. that's a long way sort of washington way of saying it's probably not going anywhere. but again, it's less:00 the legislation, i know this sounds very washington, john, and more about the messaging and the trying to get ahold of the policy. and i can tell you, john, just in the past couple of weeks i've been in ohio and michigan working on campaign stories. and it has really surprised me

how many republican voters, republican voters i have talked to who have said that they like the idea of voting for a republican, but they are concerned about voting for somebody who supports a total ban on abortion. graham's not wrong. it is resonating. it is just from my anecdotal boots on the ground reporting, that it's happening out there, particularly in a place like michigan, where the governor's race is really hot. other congressional races are really hot. and a place like that, it's going to be on the ballot just like it was in kansas. other places like ohio, same kind of thing. not on a ballot, but it seems to be resonating. >> and these are republican voters telling you this. >> exactly. >> as you travel in some of these key race. >> yep. >> all right. dana bash, thank you so much for sharing your reporting, trying to explain the shift that we've seen over the last month. >> it is a shift. >> thank you so much. so much more ahead. next, a cnn exclusive. nick paton walsh takes us inside a town recaptured by ukraine

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russia leaves death everywhere. those are the words of ukrainian

president volodymyr zelenskyy in his address to the nation tonight as he announced a mass burial site has been discovered in recently liberated -- in the recently liberated city of izyum. nearly 100 miles north of there, cnn got an exclusive look at another town vacated by the russians. here's why it's getting a lot of attention. it is less than four miles from the russian border, and home to a strategic supply route now back in the hands of the ukrainians. this is what cnn's nick paton walsh found there. >> reporter: the darkness is breaking quite tsuddenly up her, and the road to russia's border with ukraine strewn with what it left behind in its panic, including its own. two russian soldiers shot dead in fighting about five days ago. yet another sign the kremlin doesn't care what or who it leaves behind. this is vovchansk, the closest town to russia that ukraine has taken back and whose vital railways began the supply chain

for most of moscow's war. the russians, everyone says, just packed up and vanished a few days ago. they've always been so close, so part of life here. any joy is not universal. "they were not very good," says andre. "they didn't shoot anyone, though." "the hardest was to see their checkpoints and their z signs and feel hatred growing my heart," says tatiana. "they can drink their oil and have their gold and diamonds for dessert, but just leave us alone here." nastia is sailing ship, she says. ukraine has been at war all the eight years she's known. "i think it will be better without them," she says. "it was uncomfortable having them here." her parents nearby say fear meant they slept in their clothes all the six months. >> it's kind of strange here to see how almost unaffected so much of this town has been and

how life seems to have slipped comfortably back into normal when the russians just picked up and left. and it gives you a feeling of how normality must still reign just a matter of six kilometers away across the boarder in russia. but normal is never coming back, particularly to here, the borderline itself. russia retreated back over it, but must now live with the hatred it has stirred. the fact that ukrainian forces are able to push right up to here, the beginning of the border buffer zone with russia. russia is just a matter of kilometers in that direction. yet another calamity moscow has imposed upon itself. its opponent in this war and is struggling so deeply to resist. how did you feel walk along the russia-ukraine boarder? "some people have waited this for eight years," he says. "it is the start of our

victory." across the once sleepy fields here, lives and harvests stalled, wilting. yet another year will come. >> and nick paton walsh joins us now from kharkiv. nick, it was amazing to see you there so close to the russian border, given how close it is and given how crucial you say railways are to moscow's war effort, is there a concern that russia is going to try to take that town back? >> you don't feel it when you're there. you see, really, what the russians left behind in such a hurry, including their own dead. even according to a western official speaking there isn't an abiding fear that russia can come back. i think what is startling is how quickly that force crumbled. even ukrainian officials saying today some of the units that fled around kharkiv have in fact been disbanded, essentially taken apart because of the damage done to them and the levels of casualties they've

sustained. no real fear in that town russians are coming back. but they are so close that when they originally took vovchansk, it probably felt pretty much effortless. it's simply just a case of absorbing that territory as they move to targets further inside ukraine six months ago. and in a similar way they pulled back and disappeared. >> how are they reacting to the ukrainian soldiers who took the town back? >> look, it's really hard when you move into freshly deoccupied, liberated territory to read exactly what people are saying to you. some men we spoke to, normally men of similar age on bicycles sort of seemed to be, if i was being fair, impartial about the russians leaving and the ukrainians returning. remember as i say, they live literally with russia right over them all of their lives. so it may not have been that stark a change seeing russian forces move into the town. and some did say in fact the forces that were inside vovchansk were not that brutal. not very nice, one man said, but

not guilty of the kind of war crimes we've seen them accused of in areas around kyiv. other people, though, deeply troubled by that time of occupation. we heard that woman talking about feeling age 55, a life in which she said she never troubled anybody suddenly feeling tate haiti tread in her heart. a mixed picture. when you get a lot closer to russia how that changes some of the dynamics inside some of the ukrainian towns. john? >> as i said, it was remarkable to see you there. quite a report. nick paton walsh, our thanks to you. next, we're going to live to cnn's richard quest in london, where the line to pay respects to queen elizabeth stretches nearly five miles now. into the no-too-distant future of lincoln. ♪ ♪ it's what sanctuary could look like.e... feel like... sound like... even smell like. more on that soon. ♪ ♪ the best part?

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and they want to be a part of it. and that is what i suppose being british, being american, being french, whatever, in your home country, that's what it's all about. >> thank you. appreciate the translation, richard, there. i understand you were able to pay your respects earlier, just a few hours ago. what was the experience like? >> reporter: it is overwhelming because i don't think i've ever seen such greater expressions of gratitude and respect all tied up in a room that is so grand with the colors of the flag, the royal standard on the casket, the jewels of the imperial -- state imperial crown -- the scepter. you have the grandeur and her majesty, and the simplicity of ordinary people coming down the stairs and bowing their heads and waiting for each other to show their respects and bow their heads. there was one point as i was walking through where the chaplain had gone through, and

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