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tonight. i will be back tomorrow night. don lemon starts right now. hey, don lemon -- no, should i say good morning, don lemon. >> i don't have any idea what you are talking about. >> maybe you are on london time. there is big news over here. >> i'm exhausted. i just got back today. what a plan this being on the plane while this happened and my phone was heated up all day. let me just say it's bittersweet for me because i work with the best team in this building, one of the best teams in this business and we built this show out of nothing. this show was not supposed to exist. and because i have such fantastic producers and writers and maria who is my executive
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producer and my executive producer, phillip, the people that write things that come out of my mouth, the things that make sense. susan is great and other senior producer alyssa welldon. i just have really wonderful people who know me. it's like a mind meld. but i was presented with an opportunity that i can't pass up at this network, and we have a new boss, who is a morning show e exmpreario. and he wants a show to kick off things every day. and saying he moved me -- he asked me and i said yes. i could have said no. this is my show. i have a contract for this show. i decided i would take him up on
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that. this is not someone saying you must move to the right don lemon and give so much of your perspective. that is not real. this is fodder for twitter. this is an opportunity. this is a promotion. this is an opportunity for me to create something around me and i get to work with two great ladies who you know, poppy harlow, who i have known for decades. i knew her children and husband. and kaitlyn collins, same thing, we have been friends since kaitlyn has been at the network. it's really great. the only thing is the boss laugh and said i'm going to have to put some extra money in the budget to have someone come out to your house and wake you up every morning. since i have been in this business since the 1990s, seriously, i have only been on the night shift. the only time i was on the morning shift was a fill in, when i was filling in on the today show or weekend today or something like that, even on the
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morning show here. that is the only time i have ever -- that hasn't been that much, so it's going to take some getting used to. >> i tell you, i know two things. nobody puts baby in the corner and nobody dictates anything to don lemon. >> thank you. >> i wait up and stay up every night for don lemon, i'm happy to get up in the morning. i can't wait. >> thank you. when i started doing this, it was eight and a half years ago and they were doing pilot -- what are we going to do with prime time? and our old boss said go do it. and it was the only -- he said the only pilot that matters is the one on the air. so you go at it. and then it became cnn tonight and then cnn tonight with don lemon and then don lemon tonight. i'm happy it is a successful show. it has been 8 and a half years. i want to try something else.
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what is life without risks. >> i'm so excited for you. we are all behind you. it will be wonderful for you. you, kaitlyn and poppy. i am telling you, though, we have all been watching you on -- in england time, you are good in the morning, kid. >> oh, thank you, young lady. the name of the show will be do and k pop. >> i will need one more focus group, just one. take care. >> you are the best. see you tomorrow. >> take care. >> this is don lemon tonight and now we know. big developments in the mar-a-lago investigation and the clock is ticking for him to review the privileged documents. his name is raymond deery, he has until november 30th to finish his work. i probably don't have to tell you is after the midterms, that deadline.
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splitting the difference between the doj, which wanted him to finish up in october and the team trump, which preferred 90 days, that as a federal judge rejected the justice's department to restart its investigation into the documents state your name turned up in the search of mar-a-lago. they could appeal and go all the way to the supreme court. so lots more to come on the investigation swirling around the former president and team trump. plus give us the reckless and, those words are ironic in the face of what critics call a cheap political stunt, dropping desperate men, women, and children, many with no other option in martha's vineyard in new york and washington, including outside the official residence of vice president
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kamala harris in what looks like a cynical competition to outdo each other and fly migrants across the country. >> any about the governor of florida, one of the largest states in the nation, spending his time hatching a secret plot to ship up 50 immigrants here, families, children as young as four, and use them as political pawns just so he could get on tucker carlson and on how he is tough on immigration. he is a coward. >> more to come on all of that. so stay tuned. but i want to get right to the news, special masters tonight, alyssa griffin, director of strategic communications harry lip man and john avelon. that was a lot. >> congratulations. >> i was thinking who did i
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miss? i worked with john mcgarvey in fox 5 in the 1990s and i didn't mention my new boss's name, kristin. i really appreciate it and looking forward to all of this. >> congrats. >> thank you so much. so let's start with this. let's start with harry. a federal judge picking a special master rejecting the bid to the documents. that is a major blow to the justice department, don't you think. >> atrocious i don't think is a strong word. we just want to look at these 100 classified documents. that is what was immediately before her. trump said classified? how do they become classified? the government authority marks them. she adopted his uncertainty and said, well, i would like a third person to look at them and say
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if they are classified. bizarre and really incoherent and then the second aspect too, he said, well, maybe he had some possessory right because he declassified them. she had undisputed facts to go one way and she went the other. remember, she was having to find a heightened standard given what he asked. >> so you think an appeal is coming and this could go all the way to the supreme court? >> yes and yes. an appeal is coming. they are huddling to decide what exactly to make in that appeal. but i think this task that judge deery has been given to somehow call strikes on executive privilege which has never been done and no real standard. but i think you will see a movement for the stay probably tomorrow on the same basis of the 100 classified documents. >> you referred to him as judge -- his name is senior
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judge raymond deery put forward by trump. how does this all sound to you? >> i'm most worried about the idea -- it's an actual judge -- and i have heard good things and dearie. but if something has classified markings, it is. i feel we are giving credence to this myth trump came up with, things that are known in the community. saying they are declassified. that is different than getting to the public. i couldn't speak to the legality, but if something is classified, same way, i was mad when hillary clinton mishandled classified information, we need to make sure the president doesn't do that. >> november 30th after the midterms -- that's, you know -- >> yeah.
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>> that has consequences politically. this is what the doj wanted. he wanted it to end by october unless a higher court steps in. this is going to move slowly, right? >> yeah. look, the question is whether the doj does try to get this all thrown out because the judge's decision from the beginning is incoherent. you are asking the special master, with a background of the pfizer court reviewing documents. >> why do you think it's incoherent? >> it's incoherent because you are asking someone to review classified documents that the president shouldn't have taken with him. but putting that aside, you are asking about the raw politics, right. >> yeah. >> the issue happened to come out after the midterms is you are increasing the chance it's going to run into a conflict with the former president declaring a new run. and that will add all sorts of political pressures and this attempt to play the ref, which is what president trump does, playing the delay game. and i think for coherence and
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national security and law, this should be contested. >> you know, the legal system, it moves slow. >> uh-huh. >> slowly. this is not going to happen quickly. >> and, by the way, november 30th is really a phantom date because when he makes any ruling that either party especially trump disagrees with, they bring it to canon, maybe the eleventh circuit and there are i can't emphasize as much no legal standard because no president has been appointed for executive privilege. >> but is that possible before november 30th? >> not the one she has prescribed. >> but my fear in this is that it's -- you know, of course i think we are going to go into the era where trump is a candidate. i expect he will declare in the next month or so, partially to fend off this investigation. i hope doj has been buttoned up and this was something that was foreseeable. i warned about this before, but if there is not a there, there,
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it seems like there is, classified documents mishandled, not in a stip, but i hope they are ready for what the trump team is going to push back with. >> which is what? >> i'm not making any predictions, but i worry because this was the unprecedented step of raiding a former president's home residence and getting into what i think put a lot of people on edge and was by republicans seen as unprecedented. i hope they haven't heard there. i feel they do. this is a loss for the doj. >> this is a loss by the doj by this trudge that was appointed after the election. i remember -- >> i'm just laughing because you keep saying incoherent. >> that's more than honest. >> ask the counselor if i'm on solid ground here. >> incoherent. >> with the enunciation. but in all seriousness, i remember a lot of republican
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initial defenders especially for the ex-president, saying it's not like he has nuclear secrets in there. guess what. >> he apparently has nuclear -- pushing the criminal investigation seized at mar-a-lago put the national security at risk. >> she had undisputed evidence that said it was and nothing on the other side. judges aren't supposed to capriciously flip coins. they are supposed to weigh evidence and there was zero on trump's side of things and a really good affidavit explaining just why there was a problem. >> you think an appeals court will see it as she does. >> best guess, no. i think it's fundamental and uncoherent. >> he is backing you up there. but to alyssa's point, if -- do you think that the evidence have
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to be there. and she said i hope they are prepared for what the team trump is going to come with. do you think that it has to be there initially and do you think that the evidence is there? >> yes, and yes. basically when an appeals court looks at things, they have to look at it as when it was filed. we have seen along the line what they have come out with, for example, the argument he was going to make declassified. they chose three statutes that don't require classification. i think they have thought this through strategically. >> anything else about the coherent conversation. >> this is a tightly run ship. but remember, this is only one of the inquiries that is going on right now. it takes place against the backdrop of these subpoenas being sent out to dozens of trump folks to overturn the election and raise money around it. that's a separate and
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potentially far larger issue. this is -- so don't get confused. these two things aren't the same thing. the other process is moving forward, bob. >> we will see if it makes any -- it may not make a difference. >> see you one early morning to check it out. >> cliff, we are like right there. thank you all. >> thank you. >> republican governors of texas and florida sending more migrants to the northeast. two planes landing in martha's vineyard. >> what they are doing is simply wrong. it's un-american. it's reckless
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. new tonight, president biden criticizing state republicans for sending migrants north to protest his immigration policies. >> instead of working with us on solutions, republicans are playing politics with human beings, using them as props. what they are doing is simply wrong, un-american, reckless and we have a process in place to manage migrants, and we want to make sure it's safe and orderly and humane. officials should not interfere in this process by waging these
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stunts. >> coming just a day after governor ron desantis sent two planes to martha vineyard. mikhail has more. >> reporter: he was in san antonio texas yesterday, along with 50 other venezuelan migrants. today he is in martha's vineyard. when he got off the lane, i asked how do you think about this place. gorgeous, wonderful. everybody is hungry. he got on the plane with no idea where it was going. there were three options, washington, utah and here in massachusetts, whatever was available. the plane left and brought us here. it's a tactic we have seen in texas, arizona, and you florida, republican governors shipping migrants to scalded santaing ctuary states. >> no idea how low. they will go lower and lower and
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willing to use humans, children, women, families as political pawns for their own game. it is depraved. it is evil. it is wrong. but what makes america great is what we see here today, which is an island community in a state of massachusetts coming together to support the people here. >> a 27-year-old mechanic from venezuela says he has been welcomed with food and clothes here on the island. he tells us he made a difficult month and a half long journey for liberty, democracy and the promise of america. when you step on american soil, you feel at ease that you are here and well protected. you lose the stress of the journey we had to go through in seven countries. very stressful across all of central america. this parish house bustling with activity. volunteers ant organizers working since yesterday to provide food, shelter and immigration services. >> we got the bodies. the biggest problem was the
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short notice. >> right. >> and that was obviously intentional. >> just 20 minutes' notice, by governor desantis who is the one --. >> yes, we will help facilitate that transport for you to go to greener pastures. >> but that message not sitting well with officials here in martha's vineyard. >> we are going to come together and support whoever shows up here and make sure people have the food, water, and shelter that they need. ron desantis and republicans might want to play political games with people's lives. i believe that's incredibly inhumane to be using women, and children as a pawn. >> martha's vineyard. >> thank you. i want to bring in maria cardona and scott jennings. i know this is going to be
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interesting. good to see both of you. >> thank you. >> scott, is this the best way to handle this, trolling with human beings? >> i guess i would ask what is joe biden doing to handle the immigration crisis? we have record number of people across the borders. major of arizona and -- >> my question was was this the right way to deal with it by using human beings as pawns. we can discuss the policies joe biden should be dealing with, but my question is what these state lawmakers were doing shipping people and playing with human's lives. >> it was for the federal government to get its act together and cannot get -- >> you are still not answering my question. scott, please answer my question. >> the answer is yes. you won't let me talk. >> all you had to say was yes. you didn't have to go around the
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bend. just say yes. you think it's the right thing to do, play with lives, you said yes, that's the answer. so desantis said every place in the america should bear, do others share a disproportionately burden? >> we hate immigrants. get the f out and we will help you get the f out. what they are doing is disgusting. and, don, to your point, if this was really about sharing the burden, they would have called martha's vineyard. they would have called dc. they would have called new york, called chicago. do you know what happened, don, these cities, mayors would say yes, let's work together and welcome these immigrants with open arms, the way they are still doing now. but they had zero notice and that tells me how much hatred
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these governors have for these immigrants. >> i understand. do you think some communities do -- do you think it's a disproportional amount of bear. >> the first stop where these immigrants go as they cross the border as they try to get somewhere to save their lives to live a better life. the united states, you said it at the very beginning, right, the statue of liberty is welcoming of immigrants who want to come here to live a better life, like president biden said and i was there at this event tonight, there is a process in place in these border towns, in these border states that do have a disproportionate burden because of where they are. but you know what? there is always a procedure. these procedures are in place to be able to get these immigrants where they need to go, where they want to go. and by the way, let's remember,
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these immigrants are not illegal immigrants. they are here to claim asylum. let's read the constitution. let's read our laws. >> okay. scott, do you want to respond to what she said. >> yeah, look, they don't hate immigrants. arizona and texas had more immigrants than we have seen in the united states. most of them staying around the border. the question is is the federal government going to do its job and help these states deal with the crisis. no one seemed to mind when joe biden's administration was in the middle of the night flying people to u.s. cities. i don't know what the difference is today. i think people come for many reasons, mostly for a better life or opportunity. they don't come here to step one foot into the state of arizona. if they can go to martha's
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vineyard with opportunities, like new york city, but the bottom line is we have to tell the truth. biden and harris are not telling the american people about this border out of control and this is -- >> hold on, maria, scott. let's just be honest. isn't that different than people voluntarily picking a place to go, than having someone ship them through many different states or a number of different states for political purposes, using them as pawns in a political process, yes, people can go where they want to go. these people aren't going where they want to go. they are being shipped off by people. that's your response is a little too -- >> you are asking them if they want to go. >> jobs here. >> everybody wants to step ten feet inside the border? i don't think that's true. >> scott, here is actually what is happening. and this is what is so disgusting about this. they are telling these immigrants, these migrants that if they get on this bus, they
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will take them to their families. they are telling them that if they don't get on this bus, their asylum claim may not be heard. they are being deceitful. they are lying. who does that? abductors do that. responsible governors, responsible leaders do not do that. responsible leaders will pick up the phone and coordinate with the states, coordinate with the federal government and put in place the procedures that the government has in place and process in a humane way. >> she has a point. they should be coordinated. you think they could be coordinating with the people who are in charge? >> i mean, who is coordinating with them? you are talking about 50 people in martha's vineyard and we are having a national melt down? do you know how many on a daily basis? we are talking 50 folks. this is nothing. >> why do it?
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>> didn't tell the people in martha's vineyard they were coming. my question is about coordinating. >> it's a stunt with a purpose. and the purpose is send help. the border is not secure, vice president harris, like she said on television this weekend. we have a major problem and you are not dealing with it. if you want to call it a stunt, fine, but this is for a purpose. this has generated more than they have done in six months. good for them. >> you talk about how this issue needs to be resolved. let's look back at history and what party was responsible for this issue not being resolved in the first place. it has been democrats that have always tried to work for comprehensive immigration reform. it has been conservative republicans that have always shut the door and slapped them in the face. if you want action, go talk to your senators and house of representatives and governors to
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get their freaking act together. >> maria, the border is open. your party is in charge. >> it is not open, scott. >> it is open. how are people coming across then. >> there is more infrastructure. >> hour people coming across? >> i will tell you. these people are coming across. they are not sneaking, scott. they are walking across -- >> i know. the border is open. they are walking across. of course not. >> -- and presenting themselves legally as the law says they can, to border patrol agents saying i would like to seek asylum. that is the greatest of this country. >> scott, she does have a point. in order for them to be shipped to other places, don't the people at the border patrol have to be able to get them in order to ship them off somewhere, if they were just running into the country and not going through the process, there would be no buses. they would not be getting on buses. they would be going freely to where they want to go. >> well, some people are going freely to where they want to go. these folks didn't find
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themselves in that situation, but you can't tell me people aren't coming across every day and walking into the united states without absolutely -- talk to a border patrol agent. they will tell you it's overwhelming and we have the biden administration hiring 87,000 irs workers and no border patrol. it's a disgrace. >> wealth love to work with republicans. this does need a federal solution, scott, but guess what, history says republicans have no interest in solving this issue, desantis, abbott and ducey have proof of that. they are ignorant about what this issue means to our country. it is a disservice to their voters and a disservice to the country. >> thank you, both. appreciate it. >> thanks, don. he was part of the circle, what can mark meadows reveal to the committee? that's next. oh, man.
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. first on cnn former trump chief of staff mark meadows has complied with the doj subpoena. right now meadows is the highest ranking trump official known to have responded to the subpoena in the federal investigation. let me announce chris whipple, author of the book the fight for your life. so mark meadows was on the inner circle. how valuable is the information that he can give to the committee and doj? >> it depends on how much he is cooperating. all we know is he has complied
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with the subpoena, which could mean as little as sharing texts and e-mails. but if he is telling the doj doj everything he knows, he could be the most possibly dangerous to president trump. he knows what trump knows. he was complicit in it and that shake down of 187 votes. he was there in the morning holding trump's quote when he addressed the mop on the capitol and then sat on his couch scrolling on his cellphone when cassidy begged him to call off the mob. he is potentially the most dangerous witness there can be and for that reason, trump is not sleeping all that well.
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>> you mentioned cassidy hudgens because he was the key information. this is some of what she said. >> i remember pat saying something to the effect of, mark, we need to do something more. they are literally calling for the vice president to be hung and mark said something to the effect of he thinks they deserve it, he doesn't think they did anything wrong, to which pat said something "this is fing crazy. we need to do more." . >> so whether it was the state of mind, meadows can give the picture. >> he was there for all of this. in trump's case, it is a case of be careful what you wish or because it could be, because mark meadows is the chief of
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staff donald trump desperately want and finally got. and he would do anything for trump. but the downside of hiring sycofents is by the end of the day you don't know who truly is in your corner. but many may remember a guy named g gordon liddy, who was a character, watergate burg burglar. and she was shone holding a candle. this is not liddy. he is not a guy that will go through the gates of held for trump. and one of the fascinating things about him -- and i write about this on my upcoming book on joe biden 's white house -- but he was a yes man, not to donald trump, but to everybody. there was a spinelessness about
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him that is really remarkable. so i think donald trump just has to be hoping that he is not trying to please the department of justice. >> i want to ask you about this new detail from the upcoming book, called the dividers by peter baker and susan glasser, where they describe another chief of staff, kelly by refeuding to lower the flag after john mccane's death, saying "if you don't support john mccain's funeral when you die, the republican will come to your grave and on it." . >> okay. what's your reaction. >> consistent with what we know about donald trump and kelly. kelly came in determined to impose his will and make the trains run on time and tell donald trump hard truths. i, like everyone else, he
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utterly failed to do it. and, you know, certainly jared kushner and ivanka were real enemies and helped to drive him out. the truth wuss that the longer trump's presidency went on, the less assertive his chief of staff became because mick mulvaney became a rubber stamp and ultimately he got the chief of staff that he always wanted in mark meadows. >> thank you. >> good to be here. >> lining up for hours to see the queen one last time and we are learning president biden will meet with elizabeth when he is in london for the funeral. the u.s. ambassador is here to talk about that next.
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. queen elizabeth lying at westminster hall as they pay their respects. they have a few more days before the funeral on monday. president joe biden is set to meet with the british prime minister. and prince charles is going to meet with foreign dig tears sunday night. so the british ambassador to the u.s., karen pierce. thank you for joining us. i appreciate it. >> thanks very much for having me. >> i just say i'm sorry for your loss. the uk is dealing with high inflation, out of control gas prices. there is the war in ukraine, a lot to cover between president biden and the prime minister's trust. what do you think is first on their agenda? >> i think they are going to spend time talking about pushing
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back on authoritarianism. it is behind what is going on with ukraine and the treatment of taiwan. and the president and prime minister both share the belief in the power of freedom, the power of liberty, what we can do to embed open societies and bring better benefits to cities. that will be a very important thing. and it's one piece of philosophy, if you like, that they both have in common. i think energy is bound to be top of the list. that's a very live issue, as you were saying. we have brought in matters to help households. the president has recently passed the reduction act. there is a lot more to talk there and what to get-together. secure energy supply is going to be part of that conversation. and obviously they are going to talk about ukraine, what more we can do together to sustain
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ukraine, as she continues this push back with some remarkable results recently against russia. >> ambassador, the uk is going through so much upheaval, the new prime minister, death of the queen and now there is a new king. do you think all of that is going to make it harder to deal with all these challenges the uk is facing? >> no. actually, in some funny way it's actually easier. these are unprecedented times, as you were saying, because so many challenges, so many head winds are coming together, and the prime minister has spoken about that. and these head winds have felt throughout the transatlantic space, so i think they will have a lot to talk about. there is a lot to do to get on with what we are going to do to confront these challenges. it is unusual to have a new king
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and new prime minister is one week. but i think as far as britain is concerned, they are very much going to rely on each other's counsel and add vice. i do think it's a new era given in historical terms, but i think today's crises, particularly the cost of living, are real and that's what the prime minister will want to discuss with the president. >> do you think the new prime minister and the king having both started i guess around the same time, right, stepping into their roles at the same time, is that office bonding between the two, which actually may help their relationship and therefore the country? >> i would like to think so, certainly. i think it was very typical that the queen's last official duty was to see in the new prime minister.
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that provides continuity. it prides pro vieds stability. and the prime minister also views service keenly. it will be a new era. the 21st century is bringing that of its own accord. there are new challenges in this century we did not have to deal with in the 20th century, like migration and climate change. so i think all these issues and the fact that the king and prime minister are new will actually give them some commonality and enable them to form a good bond. >> ambassador, i do think that's the best photo placement too, over your left shoulder, the picture of the late queen her majesty. >> perhaps i could say we got 10 out of 10 on room rater, if we are allowed to say that on there. >> you just said it. thank you, ambassador, you be
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well. >> thank you. >> so he has won career. it was a federal success that was in the last time.
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tennis greats, roger federer, a 20-time grand slam winner, announcing today, he is retiring. they're spending nearly a quarter century, and the australian open, six times. a french open, once, a u.s. open, five times. it is a record eight times, and in the last few years, they were sent by a series of injuries. federer, making his announcement, on a post on social media. >> 41 years old, i've played 1005 are matches over 25 years. tennis treated and we more generously than i ever would've dreamed, and i recognize, it is time to end my competitive career. >> federer's retirement, marking another big change for tennis, coming a month after
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serena williams declared her intention to evolve away from the court. it's been weeks of back and forth, and legal drama with team trump, and now a judge is appointing a special master for the mar-a-lago documents case. who is? next.
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new tonight, a federal judge, naming a special master who will oversee the review of more than 100 classified documents seized from mar-a-lago, and august. the news comes after weeks of legal drama between trump's lawyers, on the doj, over who should get to review these classified documents. we discuss cnn political correspondent, sara murray, cnn legal analyst, and former assistant attorney, general rogers. cnn counterterror list analysis, philip mudd, and cnn nationa

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