good evening. on martha's vineyard tonight, residents are providing food and shelter to migrants. human beings who, whatever you think of the move, have become political pawns in what is now an escalating series of actions. the effect, and likely the goal, it's the thrust immigration further into the spotlight, less than eight weeks before election day. i'm john berman in for anderson. and this is the scene on martha's vineyard today, after an estimated 50 migrants arrived on the massachusetts island. they were sent there in two planes chartered by the administration of republican florida governor, ron desantis. though we are getting some information that the migrants

might not have actually come from florida. more on that in a second. today, governor desantis defended his actions. we are not a sanctuary state, and it is better to be able to go to a sanctuary jurisdiction. yes, we will help facilitate that transport for you to be able to go to greener pastures. >> critics call it a stunt. we should point out that last month, 1. 8 million arrests, apprehensions or encounters on the southern border who supported -- that's according to customs and border protection, an increase from the last fiscal year. this one is not over yet. the move from desantis nearest districts that texas governor greg abbott began months ago, sending migrants to two other areas mostly populated by democratic voters, new york city in the nation's capital. today, at least two more buses arrived in washington d. c., this time outside the u.s. naval observatory, the residence of vice president kamala harris. it comes after she made comments at the southern border

was, quote, secure. so far as the florida charts flights go, you may be wondering, why martha vineyards? obviously, it's a lot of vacation spots for a lo t of democrats including the obamas. last year, ted cruz introduced a bill that would transfer undocumented into migrants to 13 areas, many which are in -- all of which are lit by the markets and include martha vineyard. we also know tucker carlson mentioned a similar idea on his podcast earlier this year about a places like acre town, on the island have, quote, zero diversity which means zero strength and how they, quote, a begging more diversity. he was being sarcastic, playing on some of the same themes that proponents of immigration often use, saying diversity makes the nation stronger. the top spokesperson for governor desantis got in on the act, in a tweet yesterday, saying undocumented immigrants, quote, will increase the town's diversity which is strength, right? that's the political conversation. we will get to

that in due time with our guest, florida governor serial candidate, charlie crist. first, we want to talk about the markets themselves and new details about what we are learning about where they actually traveled from. to do that, cnn has reporters across the united states on mother vineyard in florida and in texas. joining me now from anchortown on the island of mother vineyard in massachusetts, cnn senior national correspondent miguel marquez. you have been speaking with people there all day will, have you've been hearing about their journey? >> these are folks that have, all venezuelans, have had a month and a half, sometimes three month journey to the mexico-texas border. they were in san antonio just over 24 hours ago, and then they boarded planes at the behest of these individuals who were recruiting them at the shuttered it ever at, and they ended up here. they were not sure what there are going, but

i want to show you the people that stepped up here in anchortown here in martha's vineyard. these are people who are taking names and want to help out, whether it's helping with translation or clothing donations, food donations or monetary donations. the issu e now is there are 50 people in the facility built for about ten people -- the issue now is figuring out what the legal situation is for each of these individuals and where they need to be because many of them have court hearings and other cities. we've heard one guy has a court hearing in los angeles, cincinnati, some texas, some in washington, d. c., some in new york. getting them to where they need to go in the weeks ahead is going to be a challenge. they suspect that in the days ahead, most of the people here on the island will move on to bigger cities and other cities in the u.s., but

then the question is, will more arrive? john? >> miguel, can you make clear, they are telling you that this plane journey started in texas and then what? did it make stops in florida somehow? how is it that governor desantis is taking responsibility for this? >> this is the bizarre turn. governor desantis has been very open and supportive of venezuelan immigrants because he does not like the government there. it is a very hard-core socialist, communist government that he does not like their, so he has held them in high regard. these particular venezuelans though we're not in florida. they were in texas. it sounds as though he paid, arranged and paid for the planes to bring them to martha's vineyard. the planes did stop along the way, but everyone we spoke to -- we spoke to dozens of them between ourselves and our cnn espanol crew that was here. we spoke

with dozens of immigrants here today, and they all say that they were altogether, all venezuelans, all in texas, nobody got on, nobody got off the planes in the other stops timid. when they landed here at martha's vineyard, they had no clue where they were, and many of them were blown away. one guy said it's so beautiful, it's gorgeous. another one said, i am in love. john? >> we can see the community reaction there behind you. miguel marquez on mother vineyard tonight, thank you very much. i am joined now by cnn's rosa flores who is in houston tonight. rosa, what more do we know about how all this transpired and how these migrants were made aware of these flights? >> the circumstances are very curious, john. my colleague spoke to two migrants and they explained it like this, they said that they were in a shelter in san antonio, texas. and there were a couple of women who approached him outside the shelter by the

names of perla and dulce, and they say that these women were from organizations from orlando, florida that helped migrants, and that they put these migrants up in a hotel for about five days. they promised them shelter and, john, whenever they got to their final destination, and according to these two migrants, they thought they were going to new york and boston but turns out that they ended up at martha's vineyard. we are still digging into this, john because, again, the circumstances are just very curious here. >> again, they were in texas. governor ron desantis of florida is taking responsibility for this. do we know if the texas governor greg abbott was involved in any way? >> no, his press secretary said that the two governors to speak, that they have been talking about the busing of migrant strategy that we have been covering a lot here, but that governor abbott was not involved at all in the flights and arranging the flights to martha's vineyard. he did say, according to his press secretary, that he did

appreciate the help. john? >> very interesting, rosa flores in texas tonight. joining me now is cnn's priscilla alvarez in miami. priscilla, what more are you learning about what an into the decision by governor desantis? >> we are still trying to get answers as to what was behind the decision and the logistics behind the flight, which as rosa pointed out, is a very curious situation, but the governor here has been teasing relocating migrants, firstly up to this week. remember, governor desantis has been a fierce critic of the biden administration's immigration policy, and this dates back to last year. at the time, he had announced that he would deploy state and local law enforcement officers to arizona and texas

when there was an influx of migrants, but he is not taking a step further by joining texas governor greg abbott and arizona governor doug doocy to move migrants out of state. the question here is, where and why these migrants were identified in texas and yet, somehow, transported via charter flights by florida, and we are still seeking answers to those questions. officials are also bracing for whether there will be more flights going into martha's vineyard, john? >> just to be clear, once again though, as you say, governor desantis has been talking about moving migrants out of the state. these were not -- these human beings are not in florida, as far as we know, correct? >> that's right. the other thing to point out here, john, is that migrants when they are released from governor custody have been processed. many are seeking asylum, meaning that they will go through immigration proceedings. when they do that, they can relocate to cities across the united states. i have talked to migrants who are transported by texas governor greg abbott to washington d. c., and they had known and wanted to be in d. c.,

and they also plan to move to other cities. in some respects, migrants are getting a ride here from these republican governors, and others are confused about where they are. the bottom line here, john, is that it is catching cities off-guard, and it does not allow them to prepare, and the lack of coordination is what officials are really criticizing here. >> priscilla alvarez for us in miami. we were in texas and on martha's vineyard as well. perspective now from former democratic congressman charlie crist who is not running against rhonda scent is florida governor. chris previously served for governor as florida as a republican. we also requested that governor desantis join us, and we never heard back. congressman, let me ask you, what is your reaction to all this, the migrants being flown apparently from texas to martha's vineyard? >> john, it's astounding to me. this is so cruel and so unnecessary, so uncalled for and so brazen. it shocks the conscience of any fair minded human being, that the governor

of florida, ron desantis would treat other human beings, these venezuelans, the way that he did is unbelievable. what kind of animal would do that to other people? well, apparently, ron desantis is that kind of person, and it's heartbreaking to watch. i mean, children being lured onto these planes with lies to the parents about getting employment when they would land up north summer. i just mentioned boston. it's amazing that somebody would go to these lengths. charter a couple of planes, send them to san antonio, texas or charter them from there, lure with lies. apparently, someone was hired to lure these people onto the planes, that they were having a better opportunity by going up north on these planes and just taking advantage of them for a political stunt. you know, as i say, who does that?

governor desantis does. >> you say that they were lured onto a plane with lies, do you believe that laws were broken here? i asked that because the u.s. attorney in massachusetts and the agriculture commissioner, he defeated for the governor tory nominee in florida, as to see if there is any laws violated? >> i've asked that myself. i was doing a press conference this morning about this topic and was asked that every question. should the department of justice looked into it? i said absolutely, of course. this is a humane -- inhumane, rather, injustice being done to human beings. is this the way to treat our fellow men and women? of course not. laws may have been broken in the process of this. i am going to do a freedom of information request to the state of florida, to the governor's office to find out what happened here? who was planning this, how did they

plan it, why did they planted? john, it's another example of rhonda scent this morning to tell everybody what to do, orchestrating everything for political reasons, just like he has done to women in florida and taking away their right to choose. it's outrageous. >> to be clear, we're learning that some if not all of the mi8grants were never in florida. they were in texas. how do you square that? >> i don't square it. as you say yourself, in the intro, he was saying that he was going to have migrants taken out of florida, if he had to and teased about doing it later on. as you have said, these were not in florida. he had to go halfway across the country to pull off this stunt. it's unconscionable, it's cruel, the guy is a monster. >> i do understand that you disagree with the move, and you disagree clearly with the tactics here, but what about the underlying point the governor desantis and others have made that certain parts of the country, perhaps the northeast, places like martha's

vineyard, don't grasp the impact of what they call illegal immigration and that they don't understand what these border states and border communities are dealing with all the time? >> we are not even a border state. that's what's rich about this. we are surrounded by water and georgia and alabama to the north. the argument does not hold up here. the other point is, governor abbott -- what about the argument in general, even if you don't think it's appropriate for governor desantis? i don't think it's appropriate, period. you don't use human beings and children who might try to make a political argument or political statement. you can make all kinds of arguments. the governor has a great bully pulpit. he ought to use that instead and if people want to help us get rid of him, go to charlie chris. com and help us beat this guy. >> the vice president? >> he's a monster. >> the vice president, kamala

harris, had made the statement she thought the border was secure. is that something you agree with? >> it is hard to tell. i don't think it is secure and i think it is important to secure the border. listen, i'm the grandson of immigrants from greece and from lebanon. i understand what legal immigration is and what it's supposed to be. we are supposed to be the shining city on the hill. the place where people can come from all over the globe to have safety, to make sure that you can have a better living for your family, enjoy the capitalism, the compassionate capitalism, that is america. that's what we are supposed to stand for. ronald reagan used to call us the shining city on the hill. well, apparently our governor, desantis, does not believe in that concept. and it is very disappointing, and it is heartbreaking. and it is cruel. >> charlie chris, we do appreciate being with us and i appreciate you. >> thank you, john. >> and still to come tonight, we do have breaking news from the justice department's tug of war with the former president for the classified documents retrieved from mar-a-lago. two big legal decisions we want to tell you about that directly impact whether they can fully resume their investigation and whether there will be a special

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because it takes everything to reach zero poverty. ♪ ♪ >> new breaking news tonight on the legal fight over the documents retrieved from mar-a-lago. two big developments, both going against the justice department. one involving its attempt to resume its investigation into the former president's handling of the classified records, the other, the appointment of a special master to review those documents. cnn's sara murray joins us now with the latest there. sarah, what can you tell us about this ruling from judge cannon? >> well, look, we finally heard -- special master is going to be, it's going to be judge raymond dearie. he's a senior judge out of the new york area, he's the only person that the justice department and the trump team agreed upon, so in some ways, that is not surprising. now, what the government wanted her to do, they wanted to be able to move

forward with their criminal investigation. they said, look, if you have put forward the special master, at least don't have this special master go over the 100 classified documents that we found at mar-a-lago after the august search. the judge is saying, no -- the special master's going to review all of these documents. you are not allowed to continue to review these documents, as part of your criminal probe. now, she's saying, look, there's still other stuff that you can do without having access to these documents. there are some witnesses you can question, you can still brief congress on these materials, but you cannot be sort of handling these documents, showing them to witnesses, presenting them before a grand jury, things that the justice department would like to do as part of their criminal investigation. and essentially, she says, she really doesn't buy doj's argument that not being able to access these documents would impede the national security damage assessment. >> all right, very good explanation there. sarah, what happens next? how likely is it that the doj will appeal? >> well, doj basically told her, look, here's what we want. we want this carve out for our criminal investigation to move forward. we want to be able to look at these classified

documents. tell us by today what your decision is and if you are not going to agree to this, not going to greet to let the criminal investigation go forward, then we are going to appeal. so, they are sort of showing their guards in that sense. we have not actually seen the justice department's appeal, but they did give a pretty indication before this decision from the judge that that is what the path is going to be. >> all right, sara murray, thank you very much. and thank you during the entire break explaining to me the language in this ruling from the judge that i was confused by. i very much appreciated. >> thanks, john. >> perspective now from conservative lawyer, george conway, a columnist at the washington post. and john, you, former u.s. deputies -- during the george w. bush administration, now and law school professor at the university of california at berkeley. george, i just want to start with you. how much of a setback is this for the justice department? >> i don't know that it's going to be a huge setback. in the long term. but it's going to delay them to some extent. i mean, this ruling is absolutely

a disgrace. i don't think it's going to take very much to overturn it. i mean, bill barr last week told the new york times that the original motion by donald trump's lawyers was a crock of poop. a crock of poop, that's what he said to the new york times. this opinion was worse than that. because this opinion focuses on emotion that decides emotion that is focused on just the documents that were marked classified. and the judge claimed, in this opinion, without any basis, that there are factual and legal disputes about those documents. well, there are no factual disputes about whether a document bears classified markings. that is ridiculous. and there's no dispute that a document taken from the white house, stolen from the white house, that belongs and was prepared by government officials, and actual security officials, there is no dispute that those

documents belong to the government of the united states. and there's no, even trump's lawyers did not actually make the specific claim that these documents were somehow magically declassified by the brainwaves of donald trump. as your colleagues found, jamie gangel and others, 18 trump administration officials laughed at the proposition that these documents were declassified. and it doesn't even matter whether these documents were declassified, because the charges at issue here do not deal with classification. they deal with national security interests. this opinion is absolutely atrocious and i have to say, and i've never said this publicly about a federal judge in my life, you have to wonder whether this judge belongs on a federal bench. >> so, john, george has made his opinion quite clear here. and he quoted bill barr. neither of them sit on the 11th circuit. so, the question to you, do you think that the department of justice will or should appeal, and do you think that they have a chance of getting a more favorable ruling from a higher court?

>> john, the justice department already promised that they would appeal. the judge, i'm not surprised that judge cannon did this because the justice department was basically asking her to reverse much of her decision. the most important part related to classified information. so, the interesting thing is, on appeal, the 11th circuit would look at what power did judge cannon have to undertake these remarkable and extraordinary step? which is to introduce a third party, this special master, into a type of situation where we rarely ever see them. on the other hand, appellate courts don't really like to second guess trial courts when they're managing things like search and seizures, when they are managing things like criminal trials. and the rule of procedure here gives trial judges the discretion and in extraordinary circumstances, which judge cannon here found to appoint a special master. if you are the 11th circuit, what you might think of it is, are we going to prevent this trial judge from asking for the help of a special master, someone

like judge dearie, who's familiar with classified information and has served on the foreign intelligence surveillance court? because if they say no, then judge cannon is just going to go ahead and decide these issues herself anyway. so, i actually think the better thing for the justice department to do is just work with this special master, accelerate the review of the documents. i think they could even get through all the classified documents in the time it would never let take to appeal to the 11th circuit and wait for a ruling anyway. >> what about that, john? the judge ordered a special master to prioritize the review of classified documents first. could that speed things up? >> oh yes, john, that's actually the little area of give that i thought in the opinion that showed some effort to compromise here by judge cannon. she didn't just flatly reject the justice department entirely. she did say, i'm going to tell the special master to look at those 100 classified documents first and try to prioritize and speak through them. and part because

of justice department already said, we are content to not use the other thousands of pages that are not classified, and we will agree to the district judge's order that we will not use those at all in any criminal investigation. >> so george, on another note, the former president was on hugh hewitt's radio show today. and i want to play a portion of what he said when asked, what would happen if he was indicted? and if it would deter him from running for president again. listen to this. >> i think if it happens, i think you would have problems in this country the likes of which perhaps we've never seen before. i don't think the people of the united states would stand for it. >> what kind of problems, mister president? >> i think there would be big problems, big problems. i just don't think they would stand for it. >> what do you hear there, george? do you hear that as a threat? >> yes, absolutely. i mean, he's basically saying, what a nice country you have here. too bad if something were to happen to it. and it's basically january 6th all over again. he's denying inciting violence,

but the fact of the matter is, he is inciting violence because he's basically saying, he's convinced millions of people that he is being persecuted for no valid reason. when in fact, he knows and he is terrified about the fact that he has been caught stealing -- and sealing government documents of the highest, highest security nature. it's just, by perpetrating that lie to the american people, he's absolutely encouraging people to engage in violence. there's just no question about it. >> george conway, john yew, thank you both for helping us out tonight. i really appreciate it. >> thanks. >> up next, the republican rift over abortion on capitol hill. new details tonight on why senator lindsey graham is proposing a national ban on abortion after 15 weeks. and how that is not what he

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there is new reporting tonight on republican senator lindsey graham proposed a national ban on abortion after 15 weeks of pregnancy. graham's bill has put a spotlight on a major rift in the republican party over abortion, just weeks before the midterms. what he is proposing is a reversal from what he told

cnn's dana bash on state of the union just last month. watch this. >> i have been consistent. i think states should decide the issue of marriage, and states should decide the issue of abortion. i have respect for south carolina. south carolina voters i trust iwth marriage and abortion. >> dana bash joins me now with more. >> dana, we heard what senator graham told you last month, that seems to be a odds with what he is proposing now, so what changed? >> not a philosophical change, that's for sure, but it does appear that there is a political change of heart. i am told by a source familiar with his thinking that what has happened over the past month plus since he and i talked on state of the union is that he has seen the political reality that democrats are pretty

successfully across the board in states and races that matter, not only leading with the issue of abortion but defining the issue of abortion for the race and for the republicans running in the race. he believes that it is important for the republicans to have a unified national stance on abortion that is not a total ban on abortion because that is not something that is widely popular, particularly in purple states. i am told that his whole approach is, you can't fight something with nothing, which is why he decided to push this legislation that has a national bit of policy saying that abortion is illegal after viability but legal before that. >> you have a sense or have you been able to get a sense what his intentions are here going forward? >> no, not necessarily his intentions but what i can say,

and we have been hearing this from the hill, is that this is very much, john, a dividing issue. republicans are not unified on this at all. in fact, i could go further. some republicans like mitch mcconnell are kind of miffed because they believe that what lindsey graham did this week is take them off course with the play that they believe their message should be, which is the economy, the economy, the economy, the economy -- you saw the cpi numbers and other indicators continue to show that inflation is a very big problem for the country and, therefore, a problem for the democrats in charge from the white house to congress, and they argue that it takes republicans off course and takes them to a place where it's not really a winning issue. again, graham argues, whether it's a winning issue or not, it is an issue, so you either engage, or you are going to have a political problem.

>> he caught republicans by surprise. these are people that don't want to be surprised, it seems, by something like this. what are they going to do with this with him as they head toward the midterms? >> it does not sound as if mitch mcconnell is all that interested in -- at least trying to push for this vote. of course, he is not in charge. it would be chuck schumer, the senate majority leader who would have to agree to it. there could be some parliamentary maneuvering if mitch mcconnell would even be interested to try to push this vote on the floor. that's a washington way of saying, it's probably not going anywhere, but again, it's less about the legislation -- this sounds very washington, john--and more about the messaging and trying to get a hold of policy. i can tell, you john, just in the past couple of weeks been in ohio, and in michigan working on campaign stories. it has really surprised me how many republican voters, republican

voters i have talked to, who have said that they like the idea of voting for a republican, but they are concerned about voting for somebody who supports a total ban on abortion. graham is not wrong, it is resonating. this is just for my anecdotal boots on the ground reporting that it's happening out there, particularly in places like michigan, where the governor's race is really hot. other congressional races are really hot, and in a place like that, it will be on the ballot, just like it was in kansas. other places like ohio, same kind of thing, not on the ballot but it seems to be resonating. >> these are republican voters telling you this, as you travel in some of these key races. >> yep -- >> dana bash, thank you so much for sharing your reporting, trying to explain the shift that we have seen over the last month and a half. >> it is a shift. >> thanks so much. much more ahead. next, a cnn exclusive, nick paton walsh takes us

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russia leaves death everywhere.

those are the words of ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy in his address to the nation tonight, as he announced a mass burial site has been discovered and recently liberated city of izium. nearly 100 miles north of there, cnn got an exclusive look at another town vacated by the russians. here is why it is getting a lot of attention. it is less than four miles from the russian border and home to a strategic supply route, now back in the hands of the ukrainians. this is what cnn's nick paton walsh found. >> the dark this is breaking quite suddenly appear, and the

road to russia's border with ukraine strewn with what had left behind and it's panic, including its own. two russian soldiers shot dead in fighting about five days ago, yet another sign the kremlin is not care what or who it leaves behind. this is the closest town to russia that ukraine is taken back, and whose vital railways began to supply chain for most of moscow's war. the russians, everyone says, just packed up and vanished a few days ago. they have always been so close, so part of life here, any joy is not universal. >> they were not very good, says andre, did not shoot anyone though. >> the hardest was to see there checkpoints and feel hatred growing in my heart, says tatiana. they can drink their oil and have their gold and diamonds for dessert but just leave us alone here. >> nadia is sailing shifts, she said. ukraine has been at war eight years she has known. >> i think it will be better without them, she says, it was uncomfortable having them here..

her parents nearby say fear meant that they stepped in their clothes for six months.. >> it's strange here to see how almost unaffected so much of this town has been in how life seems to have slipped comfortably back into normal when the russians picked up and left. it gives you a feeling of how normality must still reign, just a matter of six kilometers away on the border of russia. normal is never coming back, particularly here, the borderline itself. russia retreated back over it but must now live with the hatred it has stirred. >> the fact that ukrainian forces are able to push right up to here at the beginning of the border buffers own with russia, russia is a matter of kilometers in that direction, is it another calamity moscow has imposed upon itself. its opponent in this war, that is struggling so deeply to defeat, is now so close to russia's own towns and cities. a moment long

coming, says local soldier anton. >> how do you feel working on the ukraine russia border? >> some people have waited this for eight years, he says. it is the start of our victory. >> across the once sleepy fields here lives and harvests stalled, wiilting, yet another year will come. the pit was joins us now from kharkiv. nick, it was amazing to see they're so close to the russian border, given how close it is and how crucial you see railways are for moscow's war effort, is there a concern that russia will take that town back? >> you don't feel it, when you're there. you see what the russians the behind, including their own dead, according to western officials, there's not an abiding fear that russia can come back. in fact, what is not ailing is how quickly i crumbled. even ukrainian officials today said that some who have fled around kharkiv have been disbanded,

essentially, taken apart, because the damage done to them and the levels of casualties that they had sustained so no real fear in that town of russians going back. i should point out that there are so close that when they first took vovchansk, i probably felt effortless. it was a case of observing the territory as they moved further onto targets inside ukraine, six months ago. they seem to have pulled back and disappeared. john? >> nick, you talked about other local people thought about the russian soldiers that left. how have they reacted to ukraine soldiers who took the town back? >> look, it's really hard when you move into freshly deoccupied, liberated territory to -- some men we spoke to, men have similar ancient bicycles, it seems to be, if i will be fair, impartial about the russians leaving and ukrainians returning. they lived literally with russia right over their lives. it may not have been that stark change seeing russian forces move into the town. some said that the forces inside vovchansk were not that

brutal. not very nice, one man says but not guilty of the kind of war crimes we have seen that they are accused of in areas around kyiv. other people deeply troubled by the occupation. we heard that one woman talking about feeling aged 55, and she's never troubled anybody, suddenly feeling hatred in her heart. a mixed picture, certainly, but that's a reflection of when you get a lot closer to russia, how that changes the dynamics inside some of the ukrainian towns. >> as i said, it was remarkable to see you there. nick paton walsh, thank you. next, we will go live to cnn's richard quest so i can wake up refreshed. neuriva think bigger. (coughing)

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his solemnly in london with dozens the lined up along the banks of the river thames, stretching past some of london's notable landmarks, waiting to get to westminster hall, all to pay respects delay queen elizabeth as she lies in state. the queue is nearly five miles long right now, with at least a nine-hour wait. the

queen's casket will be on view until monday when a state funeral will be held, and preparations are underway for the final farewell. joining us now from london's cnn anchor and correspondent, richard quest. richard, it's nearly 2 am, as you are well aware in london. people are still camping out waiting for hours to see the queen, what is the mood there right now? >> i've been on the streets this evening, and the mood, it's quite extraordinary, john, because there's a feeling of community. people are talking to each other. there is a camaraderie. certainly, people are going to the queue and line up for that long. even away from the line, people just want to be here, to be near westminster. look at big ben, go down to the palace, buckingham palace, because you want to be able to say, i was there, and i felt that sense of community and coming togetherness that this had been brought about. listen to what people said after they have

been queuing, as we would say, lining up, in your language, at they have been lining up for several hours with many more hours to go. >> compared to what she has done for the last 70 years, for us to stand ten hours is nothing compared to the 70 she has given us. >> as soon as you enter the whole, it hits you. i was crying all the way through, and i thanked her. >> it's been a constant throughout my life, and now she is gone. i did have a lot of respect for her, and i just wanted to beclose to her to say goodbye. >> that's the mood generally people want to be here, and they want to feel what is going on, and they want to be a part of it. that is what i suppose being british, being american, being french, whatever, your own country, that's what it is all about.

>> i appreciate the translation, richard there. and then you are able to pay respects earlier if you hours ago. what was the experience like? >> it was overwhelming because i don't think i have ever seen such greater expressions of gratitude and respect, all tied up in a room that is so ground with the colors--the flag, the jewels of the imperial crown, disappear, the or, you have a grand there and majesty and the counter point, the simplicity of ordinary people coming down the stairs and bowing their heads, and waiting for each other to show their respects and bow. and one point, as i was walking through, a chap outcome to, and it's almost like he forgot, so he turned back, once again and bowed his head and said thank you. the meaning fullness of what is that room tonight is quite overly. i think it is the

tension, the anxiety and tension, that frizzell is gonna get greater as we move towards monday, when, of course, they will stop people from going to. >> richard, we have about 30 seconds left. you're getting more information about the funeral itself, so what can you tell us? >> it's going to be very big. there will be several opportunities for the person, but from the abbey to various places, as the queen's remains go in windsor. should be very next to her parents along with her husband, the duke of edinburgh. it will be like, it's a cliché, john, but clichés are clichés for a reason because they mean something. it's gonna be like nothing we have ever seen before in our lifetime. >> richard quest, i am glad that you are there and had that experience today. thank you for

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