review them, and to, she does not think it will cause irreparable harm for the justice department to press pause on their ability to review the documents. she says you can still go forward in parts of your mastication. if you want to talk to witnesses about other documents removed or stored, you can do things like that, but when it comes to actually viewing the documents, you will be presenting them before a grand jury, which is the unhelpful thing to do when you're in the middle of a criminal investigation. you can't do something like that. she does say do that they can start brief congress, so we are waiting to see if that actually comes to fruition. she did put a timeline on all this, saying they have until this november 30th to complete the work. >> sarah, the judge appointing to shirk judge raymond theory especially master, what can you tell us about him? >> that is right. he is a senior judge in the eastern district of brooklyn. if you are a senior judge, you have more time on your counter, which is good because this

implicate will be a time consuming task for him. he did a seven year stint on the -- he is someone used to doing with these kinds of sensitive materials. . he was a person performed by the trump team and the only person that the justice department also agreed on, so this is the only name that both sides are in agreement over being the special master in this. >> jennifer, in the judges order tonight, she is raising doubts about whether all the documents are classified are actually classified. you say the judges reasoning so, do you think that -- does she have reason to suggest that this is indefensible. is up for debate whether they're ossified or not? >> well, that is what, you said don, with nothing behind, it she got one from the government that talks about the classified documents, and how they will be irreparably harmed if they cannot be utilized the. she did not get any evidence from the trump team all socially has one piece of evidence and that is all she has to rule on an in the brief the trump folks did not even say the documents are

declassified, they said maybe there were, that is no basis at all to find that there is an issue with classification. judges are supposed to decide based on the, evidence and the law. they gave her, nothing to give her no law, they gave her no facts. she has the undisputed, facts and the law provided by the justice department. so there's no basis. >> so, what is going on here with this judge? >> so the last sentence, or the second to last sentence, the part of the order tells you all you need to know. she says, listen, i just have to go back to the fact that this is an extraordinary circumstance and it really comes down to the inherent inception of nature for the point of his. at the end of, the day she has told us what it is, this, trump their special treatment that no one else will get, contrary to the facts that she is saying there is no precedent, some going to do what i want here. >> she hasn't even said that, there is plenty of law, the doj gave it her why there is no

privilege here, why these documents are classified. >> so there is precedent? >> there is. but she hasn't grappled with, the chessington illegal analysis, she says i'm not buying what the doj selling despite the facts and evidence, and i want to do it for trump >> i want you to jump in here, because the special master has -- can you talk about the judges rule or do you think -- >> i find that really what i say comical about national security stuff, i spent my life doing, it but this is comical. let me explain why when you look at the classified documents, use our cover sheet in that famous fbi search, take the cover seat off and that is expose the real documents. the header on the top and bottom of the document as a classification. for example, top secure code word, tell keyhole, some of the words and phrases that you would see in a document gathered at mar-a-lago. this question about what the documents are classified or not, i learned to read and fifth great, don. when in says top secret, code

word, let me give you a clue, that is a classified document i am not exactly sure to take this one, don. >> julia, judge cannon is also questioning whether these documents puts national security at risk. does she have a reasoning there? what's the reasoning? >> the opinion is something. i would not call it judging. it is something. is it that we will be beholden to the reasoning for no, something to appeal. the idea that we will try to figure out some legal reasoning behind it at the stage is futile, and we are only doing it because we somehow believe in the rule of law. this is a opinion that is going to harm american interests more than she even recognize. she can think that she is protecting trump and some

notion of the exceptionalism of these that is, but if i am a defense attorney representing either a good actor, presumably a bad actor, let's say someone who is spying for the chinese, and the government has classified information against me that they are using against me to protect american interests, my first argument is to quote her opinion, to say essentially that there is nothing that you can trust about the government's classification system. that's basically what -- that's what i would do if i were defensive tierney right now. finally, i do want to say about what this case means for the outside world. look, there will be a delay. maybe the special magistrate will move quickly. that is fine. we will get the information

out. but the goal was not to get a win for trump, it was a delay for trump, and he got it. he just needs to extend the runway longer and longer and longer until he added his sights to run or there is some kind under scandal. that is what he wanted out of the case. he got it. >> sarah, what do expect next from the doj, and how far can a single battle go? >> look, the doj told a judge when they put forth this mini solution, essentially saying, why don't you let us look at these 100 classified documents, move forward with our criminal investigation, fine with the special master and the rest of it, but, if we don't hear from you today, will -- we've now heard from the judge. the judge is not giving the justice department what they are asking for, so now we are waiting to see a default. which is appeal. this it does mean delays. the special master will take to november 30th, or can take

through november 30th. he will do his work regardless. it's a question of what pool of documents he will do them on. now, we will wait and see what kind of talent we will look at. >> jennifer, the judge is also allowing the trump team to review these classified documents. does not pose any risk to the broader investigation? >> probably not. they had them, i mean, he had them for months and months. he knows what they are, the lawyers will know what they are, because he would have told him. i don't think they are concerned about the aspect of it.

they may be concerned about the national security implications of trump and his team of lawyers saying the documents having them back again. as far as the investigation goes, they need to have them in order to does documents against them. >> have a more people see these consummate documents. >> they will be clear in order to see. i'm >> julia, this is a blow for the doj, but investigators had these documents for weeks

before they had to pause. how much could the government have learned and that time? >> a lot. i think that they are presenting a case. we have hints about what they are looking at, and it is not just the classified information. we have to remind people, trump was given multiple opportunities to fix the problems. giving him the benefit of the doubt, oh, he made a mistake, they are cognizant that you can

fix this mistake, any clearly did not want to. he wanted to hold on to them. we may get some hints about what they are going after, including obstruction of justice. it sounds like some people lied to the fbi about whether they were aware that it was classified information, if not trump itself. they still have a very strong case, but i think ultimately, what we are all surprised about, legal reasoning aside, is the extent and notion in lawyering about the political question, right? you defer to other branches and their expertise. but the executive branch is an expert and national security. the constitution defines the expertise as residing within the executive branch and foreign policy. so, you just see a judge

second-guessing it in a way that does not defer to the expertise of a political branch. in some ways, i view this as not just bad legal reasoning but putting the judiciary front and center and things that they are not experts in. they are not. the constitution recognizes that

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-- over 100 migrants from texas to the vice presidents residence in d. c. this morning. i want to bring in now democratic congressman colin allred of texas. congressman, appreciate you joining us. what is your reaction to these governments sending these buses migrants with no heads up to places like martha's vineyard, d. c.. do you think that they should have coordinated? >> first, it seems like they lied.

to the migrants to try to get them on this flight to martha's vineyard. of course these are stunts. but it's also dehumanizing don. once you do come on ice people, you can treat them however you want. because it doesn't matter, because they are not like you and me, they do not deserve to be treated with dignity or to have any kind of rights. it is not who we are as americans, it is also just a political stunt intended to get these governors on fox news. and they hope that maybe they can become the next trump. but, certainly, i think that doing things like this is not consistent with who we are as a country. it's not certainly consistent with who we are as texans. >> listen, there are, the resources, some of the places on the border

don't have enough resources to really take in all of these people, they have an overall point? my question is, should they have coordinated with these different units abilities or with martha's vineyard or do you see whatever if they had planned on doing this? >> listen, we can do more. we have to fix our immigration system, it is broken. we need to try to address the root causes of why some of these folks are leaving their home countries. and try to make sure that they eyeball to stay where they are from. but, doing it like this does not make any sense don. it's just intended to cause chaos and to get these folks headlines. this is exactly, exactly what they want. for us to be having this discussion and talking about whether or

not they should have been coordinating or something like that, when we do have a process for handling these things. this is not the process. certainly, not to governors. understand that congressman, there's no point please, when i'm asking you is if these towns, or cities or municipalities communities, if they do not have enough resources. then what should they be doing, what could be done. i know that there are steps in place, things in place. still, it takes a lot of man power to be able to handle these people. so

what should they do? do you think it's fair for them to send them to other places if they do not have resources and perhaps coordinate with those other places in order to get help? >> i think there is a scenario in which if we work together is a country we can find ways to spread the load. i think that is something that maybe you are hinting at. that's something we could do. but that is certainly not what we are seeing here. especially sending migrants of the vice presidents residence or dropping them off at airports where they don't know anything about where they are going or why they are there or lying about how to get them on the plane. lying about what you are going to be offering them. that is certainly not what we are talking about here. that is not responsible process. that's just intended to get them

attention on fox news. >> thank you for. answering you answer the overall thrust of my corruption and i appreciate that about lighting the load. thank you very much. governor abbott says that your state will continue sending migrants to the sanctuary cities like d. c. until president biden and vice president harris, until they do george obstacles to get the border. vice president harris says she is confident the border security. is that the case. does the biden ministration need to do more? >> i do think we need to fix the immigration system. that includes doing work at the border. we are seeing a surge in migrants. it has been caused by lots of conditions that are leaving these folks to lead their homes, to risk their lives on this really

treacherous journey to try to come to this country. some of them trying to seek asylum, a process that we certainly need to improve. our asylum process is incredibly broken. but all of this has to have a comprehensive approach to our immigration system. one, that is geared towards our current economy and the needs of that economy but also allows us to process folks in a humane way. and not treat them in this way like they are just ponds. that is not who we are as americans. it just isn't. we don't treat people like this. if you saw another country doing this in another part of the world, we would call it something else. we would say that is based on bigotry or based on trying to cause fear in communities. that is really not what i think is a responsible way to approaches.

>> conservative guests on this program would say that there is the border open. that democrats want open borders. either of those true? both, and other? >> well it's certainly not true that democrats want. the border is certainly not open. when you are talking about the number of apprehensions we are, making their up, because we are catching folks. they are coming through. also, when we talk about immigration reform, democrats and congress stand ready right now to work on immigration reform. it's that we don't have colleagues on the other side of the aisle who work with us on trying to find a common sense path forward. because it is a political issue for them. because the leader of their party as use this from the very first moment he announced his candidacy as a way to gin up a vote by scoring. people >> congressman, we are also learning tonight that president biden is going to be in person with the families of detained americans brittney griner, paul whelan. so your administration official tells cnn that there has been movement, but not a breakthrough on the efforts to freedom. this comes right after the former ambassador bill richardson got back from moscow where he was trying to get something done for these folks. where do you see this heading? are you optimistic about it? >> you know, first of all, i think president biden is someone who has lost a wife, lost daughter, lost a son. he knows what it is like when your family is in crisis. he understands these families are in crisis. i had a chance today actually to meet with some of the families of folks being detained wrongfully abroad. whether that's in russia, or iran. my heart goes out to them. but i do actually think in the case of brittney griner, paul whelan, that we will have some progress. we will have a resolution. the question is going to be, where do we land and what are the russians going to be will and it because you are not hefact t uks to fight back against russia's invasion. major gains on the battlefield could this ultimraine that th makes this a more diffic negotiation. but that d mean that we should not be supporting the ukrainians and their efforts to protect their

own country and for their own freedom. they are using the tools we are giving them extremely effectively. as you said. they are fighting with incredible bravery. i thank the. whole world can see, a free people, that want to remain free. certainly want to do everything we can to bring our americans home. but i do not think we should consider the two to be in conflict. >> congressman all, right thank you so, much appreciate your, time thank you for coming. >> president biden responding today to florida governor ron desantis, sending a plane full of on documented immigrants to martha's vineyard. we are going to tell you reset, that is next. >> president biden slamming republican governors for sending migrants to northern states in protest of his immigration policies. here's what he said just here's what he said just tonight. hey! open up! the redesigned chevy silverado. with a sophisticated, high-tech interior... open the door! it's easy to forget it's a truck. ♪ - thanks. - nice truck! it was. find new style. find new roads. ["only wanna be with you" by hootie & the blowfish] discover is accepted at 99% of places in the u.s. ["only wanna be with you" by hootie & the blowfish]

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>> president biden slamming republican governors for sending migrants to northern

states in protest of his immigration policies. here's what he said just tonight. >> instead of working with us on solutions, republicans have been playing politics with human beings, using them as props. what they are doing is simply wrong, it is un-american it, is reckless. we have a process in place to manage migrants at the border. we are working to make sure it is safe and orderly and humane. republican officials should not interfere with that process. by waging a political stunt. >> i want to bring in now cnn chief political correspondent dana bass and senior political analyst ron brownstein. good evening to both of you, thank you so much for joining. they, and president biden slamming republicans for the treatment of these migrants. this is going to be a hotly contested issue, straight through the midterms and the political brinkmanship is only just starting. >> that is right. this is happening because of the midterms, because the texas

governor is on the ballot. the florida governor is on the ballot. but, this is also happening in large part because of what you were discussing with congressman allred of texas. which is that here in washington, they have not been able to get anything done in decades. don, i cannot tell you how many hours of my life i will never get back standing in hallways in the united states capitol watching and waiting for members of congress who claim that they were working on a bipartisan deal on immigration reform. i should not say, claim for the most part they were working in good faith. but they could never get it done. and for the most part, president biden is right. there has been a lack of will on the gop side. a very big divide on the gop side. but, remember maybe in the mid to 2000s. some democrats also playing some politics with the notion of

doing this in a broad comprehensive bipartisan way. that is the reason why this is happening. because we do not have a national policy, because it is so fraught with base politics, don't take into account, these are human beings that they just dumped off on the corner. in a residential neighborhood here in washington. >> ron brownstein, cnn spoke with migrants who say that they had no idea that they were heading to martha's vineyard. tell us of the politics here and immigration stance. this is not how you treat people. do you think it could backfire on republicans? >> i think the first question is whether it is legal. biden was commenting tonight a little bit as if he was almost outside observer. he is the leader of the executive branch that includes the justice department and the department of homeland security. and gavin newsom for example roe a letter to the attorney general today, questioning whether there was legal basis for seeking an injunction to stop this behavior. from the governor, you know, your conversation was to the point in that the question of whether this burden

should be distributed more evenly across the country is a very different one from whether governors have unilateral authority to take people, some of whom are asylum seekers and once you are in asylum seeker, you are legally present in the country. there is no authority, under federal immigration law for governors to say, we can exclude these people from our state. i spoke today to the former president of the american immigration lawyers association, david leopold, who said there were potentially multiple avenues the justice department could use to contest this in court. who knows whether they would win ultimately in the supreme court, but i do think that the question of whether the biden administration can do more to condemn this sort of the same issue we've had throughout his presidency, dealing with red state governors, vaccines, to masks. to voting, comes back, can they do more to try to reassert federal over red state governors that are moving very aggressively to tilt a whole series of policies very much to the right. >> ron desantis from florida, he flew to planes of migrants there from texas, didn't have anything to do with florida, how much of this is about really raising his

national profile ahead of the potential presidential run? >> he. i think ron desantis has very much concluded that the real essence of trumpism, the real fuel in it is being seen by the pace as fighting against what they perceive as liberal institutions. the fight it's self more than the kind of terrain in what your fight is the essence of it. my colleague said the cruelty is the point. but i think he very much, this kind of fits in with his fight with disney, his fight trying to control the wind that not only, schools but private businesses talk about race. he wants to be seen as a culture warrior. in fact, the washington post got audio of him talking to republican donors over the weekend in which he kind of -- it is worth noting quick, the history i was talking about. both in 2006 and 2013, the senate passed on a bipartisan filibuster proof majority which included mitch mcconnell the first time. comprehensive immigration

reform. included a pathway for legalization for people here, for undocumented people here. each time, you know six and 13, the republican-controlled house refused to take it up, despite the first time. so, there is a history here, with bipartisanship being achieved on this issue. but and i kind of early marker of the parties movement to what has become. much more uniformly hostile, not only illegal but legal immigration of the republican house refusing to take that up either time. when it could've been done in a six or 13. >> some of the instances you mentioned earlier, but then, i want to speak with you before we let you go about abortion and another major issue. this is what republican senator lindsey graham said to you. this was on state of the union just last month, which this. >>

i've been consistent. i think states should decide the issue of marriage and states should decide the issue of abortion. i have respect for south carolina, south carolina voters here i trust to define marriage and to deal with the issue of abortion. >> now he is proposing a national abortion ban after 15 weeks of pregnancy. you've been watching sources as to why he changed his tune, and, what are they saying? >> well, i mean let's just be clear, it is a black and white change. he said there, he wants it to be left to the state, you are right now he is saying that there should be a 15-week ban. the answer is not about policy, it's not about philosophy, it is about the midterms. and about the fact that revolutions might want to talk about immigration, they really want to talk about the economy and high inflation. they do not want to talk about the issue of abortion. that is all democrats, are talking about. that is a huge voter

issue across the battleground states. and the democrats have really been able to define their republican opponents on this issue. i am told that senator graham is seeing that. he did change his tacked. did change his strategy. and it is because he believes republicans have their heads in the sand. and not understanding that the gop has to come out with something that is not a total ban on abortion. something that is at least allowing abortion up to some form of viability, exceptions for rape, incest and the life of a mother. because a lot of states are not doing that. and it is hurting republican candidates in those states. i was in michigan, i was in ohio. i heard it from not just democratic voters don't, traditional republican voters, they are concerned about the issue of abortion. quite telling. >> i had to say, i said something wrong. 15 weeks of pregnancy. i'm not sure of what i said. but it's been a long week. >> it's been

a very long week. >> hey don, real quick. the goal was to dampen the issue national, it's putting out fires with gasoline. this is only going to inflame issue in a way that could make it tougher for republicans. particularly anybody running in a blue state, who is expanding abortion laws. you should preempt. >> thank you both, i appreciate. >> which is why mitch mcconnell hits this. >> yeah. >> thanks guys. the wisconsin senate race is in a dead heat right now. the republican candidate is betting big money that he can take down the democrat on one core issue. we are going to tell you what is next.

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>> prince william today talking outside of the state of how difficult this week has been. listen. >> so that has thousands the you lineup to pay their respects at westminster hall. that line, four miles long, with an estimated 11-hour wait times. joining me now, cnn reporter not a beshear. who is in line with the crowds in london. not a, good morning to you there. i should say, my goodness, the queue as they say that is incredibly long. that is not stopping people from paying their respects to the queen. kind of stories are you hearing from people about what elizabeth montana? >> yes, absolutely, it is remarkable to see. once again how many people are in this queue, waiting for the opportunity to pay their respects to the queen. now, we are just across the river from westminster palace. this is of course where people are waiting to go. the queen is lying in state in hall of westminster. i have to, say quite cool tonight. we were here around

the same time last night. was a lot warmer. he was a lot shorter. was actually about 2. 9 miles long. at this time last night. in, fact the wait time was only about six hours. so, it is a little tougher tonight. we've been speaking to. people are still upbeat, many told us they've made friends along the. in fact, we met these lovely people this morning. we've got martin, vicky, ali. and amy, who have been waiting. they traveled actually around four hours to get here. they have been waiting about eight hours. how is the way pantry? >> it's been fun, when we've been moving, it's just when we have to stop for a while further back. it's just cold. it's you how tired you. but fine on the whole. really it's made all the better. having laughs along the

way, keeping spirits up. yeah, that's beta. >> you guys met in the queue. friends over the way. how important is it for you to be part of this, pay respects to the point? >> really important. i think we are not going to see anything like this in the future. being military as well, swearing my allegiance to the queen ten years ago is quite important to me personally. and it's great to see such a big turnout. but people wanting to pay their respects to their majesty his majesty. >> are you guys, this is a moment of history. how are you feeling, are you looking forward to this. is it a historic long free? >> yes definitely, there is never going to be anything like this again. in my lifetime or her is really. never going to see one of the queen. so yeah. >> you've been in the queue along, time how you, feeling been cold? >> but it's been all right., it really is the message we've been hearing, it is a historic

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hello and welcome to all of you watching us around the world. i'm kim brunhuber in atlanta. a massive humanitarian effort is underway. two planes with migrants land in a massachusetts vacation spot. some are calling it a political stunt. >> i'm becky anderson in london for you where thousands of people are patiently waiting their turn