pence. that's really what it came down to. >> i'm really looking forward to this. jake, thank you very, very much. the special report, the cnn special report "american coup: the january 6th investigation" airs this sunday night 9:00 p.m. eastern right here on cnn. and "erin burnett outfront" starts right now. "outfront" next. he's not done yet. governor ron desantis vowing to send more immigrants to american cities. plus, news clippings, that is what trump's team claimed was being stored at mar-a-lago. did meadows know that that was not true? and more russian politicians speaking out and calling for putin to resign. why a former cia official based in moscow is now saying the work coup.

he's my guest. let's go out front. good evening, i'm erin burnett. ron desantis is vowing that his two flights of undocumented immigrants to martha's vineyard are just the beginning. >> these are just the beginning efforts. we've got an infrastructure in place now. there's going to be a lot more than happening. we are going to use it, and you're going to see more and more. >> now, ironically that $12 million that he refers to is coming from interest earned on coronavirus aid funds, aid funds that came from president biden. well, you see how desantis is using it in his threat tonight. republicans and democrats are at an all-out war of words. >> they use them as political pawns, treated them like chattel in a cruel premeditated political stunt. >> if they will not go to the border, we're taking the border to them so they can see the

challenges they are posing to the entire united states. >> what desantis is doing a disgrace. >> these communities are so hypocritical because they are not willing to bear the brunt of joe biden's immigration failures. >> okay, this back and forth comes as questions grow over why desantis flew migrants who will not in his state to begin with. so, let me just show you what we know that the migrants involved with these first two flights to martha's vineyard had crossed the united states border into texas, and that is where desantis' two private planes pick them up. so then they were first flown to florida. it was a quick stop there. and then one plane stop to north carolina, the other in south carolina. and finally both went on to martha's vineyard. now when i show this, this is a lot we know. we don't know these reasons, we don't know about these strange flight paths. but this political move by

desantis shouldn't actually have been much of a surprise because he actually has been telling people about his plan for months. here's desantis back in december talking about what he thought should be done with undocumented immigrants. >> it's somewhat tongue and cheek, but it is true. if you sent to delaware or martha's vineyard or some of these places, that border would be secure the next day. >> martha's vineyard or some of these places and, you know, ted cruz tweeted about it, this was coming people. desantis again spoke of his plans to a room full of donors at the 4 seasons in orlando. according to "the washington post," desantis said, quote, i do have this money, i want to be helpful, maybe we will go to texas and help. maybe we'll send to chicago, hollywood, martha's vineyard. who knows. rosa flores is out front in san antonio, texas. that is where the flights of these migrants originated.

i know you're trying to talk to these people to see why they got on these flights to martha's vineyard. >> reporter: we've also been trying to find this mystery woman by the name of pearla who allegedly recruited all these migrants to get on this flight. so we've retraced her steps. let me take you through this because what you see beyond the trees, that's the migrant resource center here in san antonio. and we've watched this happen all day long. migrants cross that busy street that you see behind me, and they go to the shopping centers that are all around me here. now i've been collaborating with my colleague because she's been getting photographs and also videos of this woman named pearla and the steps that they took along the way. we've been reconnecting some of those dots. and turns out this is the parking lot where this woman pearla met with all of these migrants. and, remember, this is the woman

who promised these migrants that they were going to have shelter and also a job whenever they got to their final destination. now right now you don't see a lot of migrants here. but take a look at this video because we were here all day long earlier today. there was lots of migrants here. i was able to talk to them. no one had seen pearla. no one knew about pearla. they're only allowed to stay for three days at this migrant center. nobody had heard of pearla. but we kept on retracing her steps. turns out these migrants were transported about 17 miles southwest of this location to a hotel. we've got video of this. we asked people at this hotel if they knew about pearla. they had not. but, again, we have pictures and video to prove that that's where the migrants were. the migrants stayed there for about five days. after that they were transported

about five miles east to joint base san antonio to kelly field. that's where that plane left to martha's vineyard. so, erin, did we find pearla? no, we did not find pearla. but, as you know, governor ron desantis is taking credit for all of this. so i asked his press secretary. i have not heard back. the people who are talking here, erin, are the migrants, the many migrants we talked to here, and what they say is they are angry, they are upset for what happened to these migrants because what they told me is these migrants are just like them, they're fleeing persecution, violence in their home countries and they're so desperate that they trust people like pearla. erin? >> all right, thank you very much. pretty incredible all that reporting that rosa and your team have done to show how they went to the la quinta in and the air base in texas. governor abbott said he wasn't aware of these initial flights. and ron desantis making it clear

there's a lot more coming. i know you've covered this beat for many years, steve. so, desantis for five years. so desantis has not made it a secret. he's brought it up again and again. and we had ted cruz with that tweet. martha's vineyard, greenwich, connecticut. you heard him talk about other places as well including hollywood. desantis was pretty clear this was coming. >> that's correct, erin. anyone who's been listening to desantis for months knows that he has been very publicly and repeatedly threatening to send migrants anywhere that gives democrats heartburn. he has thrown out president biden's home state of delaware, washington, d.c. and, yes, even martha's vineyard. now, he has $12 million set aside for this, and he has said today that he will use, quote, every penny of it. the big question that still remains is how did desantis get around a state law that says this money was supposed to be

used to transport migrants that were in his home state of florida as you showed on that map, these people started in san antonio and went all the way to martha's vineyard. he was asked about that discrepancy today and he said this. >> so they've been in texas identifying people that are trying to come to florida. and then offering them free transportation to sanctuary jurisdictions. and so they went from texas to florida to martha's vineyard. >> now he didn't really answer the question too well there. but that's his explanation, erin, and he is not backing down. >> no. if they were intending to go to florida, who knows whether that's the case or not, he was going to send them somewhere else. but nonetheless the plane did stop in florida, both planes, which has add some confusion to this. you're right, he didn't fully answer that question at all. steve, thank you very much. i want to go now to a communications director for the

dnc and has been in touch with the white house on this issue. and former republican governor and congressman from the state of south carolina, one of the places where the plane stopped. although i know, governor, you don't know the details on that, i'm just pointinging out that flight path. he is going to spend $12 million on this, and that's a lot of plane flights from texas to places like martha's vineyard. are these towns and cities are obviously going to be hit by this. is governor desantis making the point governor abbott made that if you won't come to the border, we'll bring it to you? >> it's a political stunt. if he actually wanted to solve the problem, and he was worried about the issue of migration and these people seeking asylum, then he would work with the federal government and he would work with local jurisdictions in order to house these migrants. he's not following a legal process. a legal process, because every migrant, if they're fleeing a

dangerous condition and fear for their lives, they have a legal right to seek asylum. instead, they're making promises and dropping them off, not actually coordinating with the federal government, and dropping them off with no notification except for potentially fox news. but they're not coordinating with the federal government, which makes it hard for a government response and therefore it's causing chaos. i want to point out that this is very similar. this type of chaos is very similar to the chaos of child separation, to the chaos of the muslim ban. these are stunts, these aren't necessarily solutions and realtime solutions to help these migrants. and it is causing fear in these communities. it is causing chaos in these cities. and the chaos is coming from governor desantis. it's not coming from the white house. the white house wants an orderly plan, and they want to work with these states like governor desantis to ensure that we're doing things to house and have a process for these migrants.

>> governor? >> uh, process? people have been waiting for a process for 20 plus years. i can't tell you how frustrated the republican base is with the lack of progress on this, quote, process. and so they've heard a lot of words, they've seen administrations come and go. they've seen senators and congressmen come and go without real result. i would argue that the frustration with the border issue was what ultimately fueled the trump campaign. it has a lot to do with trump -- again, i'm no trump fan. i think that's been well-documented, but a lot to do with him coming to office. i'd separate politics from policy here. i'd say from a desantis standpoint, probably great politics. it plays straight to the base and the frustrations that the republican base feels with nothing being done on immigration. as to policy, we're talking about it. and you've got to talk about it to raise an issue hot enough so that ultimately something gets done. i'd say keep on doing something

because we need to talk about it because meanwhile 8,000 new folks cross the border today and we've seen about 2 million folks over the last year cross the border and people are frustrated. >> top republicans are rushing to praise governor desantis. here they are. >> right now the hypocrisy that is playing out is really quite stunning. >> the hypocrisy of these sanctmoanous liberals is just amazing. >> the biden administration specifically about how this is being handled. >> do they have a point? >> no. what the administration wants is a process for these people to have, you know, to seek asylum. and i want to just respond to this. yes, there has been chaos in our immigration system, and we all can remember, and we all documented, and, erin, you've covered it too, and part of it was dismantling the asylum system under the trump administration. and so there was chaos and this administration is trying to

rebuild that system. and, in addition, i don't think that the president and this administration have been quiet about the fact that we need an immigration solution. we actually need to pass comprehensive immigration form. this was a bipartisan issue, and for some reason in recent years instead it's been about fear mongering. and so i think the administration is working to build a plane as it's in the air at the moment. but you have leaders like governor abbott and governor desantis that are just causing chaos instead of actually trying to work with the federal government to process asylum-seekers. >> governor, one of the points that you got to get your head around when you think about it on a certain level is, okay, if you are going to say ron desantis has put this on the national conversation in a way it wasn't before, and you think that you have said that that is a good thing and that that is worth it. then you have to cross the bridge of the fact that it was

50 individual human beings who were involved in getting it onto the front page. the white house press secretary talked about that today. and here's what she said. >> these vulnerable migrants were reportedly misled about where they were headed, told they would be headed to boston, misled about what they would be provided when they arrived, promised shelter, refuge, benefits and more. these are the kinds of tactics we see from smugglers in places like mexico and guatemala. and, for what? a photo op? >> she used the word smugglers. but what do you make about her point, individual humans here who believed what they were told and what they were told was not true. >> i don't know the validity to what she's claiming. what i do know is these folks

have not been put out to pasture. they've been moved now from martha's vineyard to a military base on cape cod and they're being provided food and shelter. so i don't think you can equivilate it with a smuggler who leaves them to die in the desert. is it clumsy? i gladly see that point. but i think it needs to be remembered here that the biden administration changed the asylum policy. again, i'm not a trump fan, but the policy during that time was you had to wait in mexico while your asylum was being sort of evaluated. now they changed it to, in essence, a thousand-day stay under the biden administration. and folks literally had three years to have it figured out, and they could be wandering around the united states during that time period. and that's created, again, a havoc on the system itself, and some of the immigration demand that we've seen. and so folks in texas or florida with some spillover from venezuela or elsewhere are

saying, wait, this is out of control, we have got to do something about it. so is it a clumsy political tool? certainly. but does it make a point of, wait a minute, you can't be sequestered in nantucket or martha's vineyard or elsewhere, you know, not feeling the pain of what people are feeling in the border on south texas. we've got to make this point real. so i get the larger point. is there a different way of raising it? yes. but is it effective? yes. >> thank you both so much. new reporting tonight. trump's team told the national archives that boxes at mar-a-lago only contained, and i quote, news clippings. okay, that was obviously blatantly and completely untrue. so why did mark meadows describe them that way? plus, outrage from russian politicians over set backs in ukraine leading for calls to president putin to go. this as more than 400 bodies are discovered in a new mass burial

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cnn learning trump's former white house counsel told the national archives that there were no classified documents at mar-a-lago. okay, that's a very significant

thing. and let me add on top of that, according to former white house chief of staff mark meadows, there were only 12 boxes of, quote, newspaper clippings. of course in reality what investigators found were 48 boxes, 184 classified documents. that was voluntarily handed over by trump in january. so after all these assurances were made about newspaper clippings, we got that. and then there were 38 more turns over in june, and 103 more classified documents seized by the fbi in their search last month of mar-a-lago. evan perez is out front. we know what mark meadows said. we don't know we he said it or if he believed it. there are some questions here. but this does put the focus squarely on mark meadows. >> it really puts the focus on what mark meadows said and where he learned that information from. what was previously reported is that meadows was trying to get donald trump to turn over boxes. what we're told is that this conversation that you just talked about is, you know, gary

stern from the national archives was communicating with patrick philbin, a former deputy white house counsel. and what he was passing on from mark meadows is that there were only about a dozen boxes and they were newspaper clippings. what we're told, our jamie gangel got this reporting. she's told by sources that the national archives knew that there were records missing. so they didn't take that to be the final answer. what they understood the conversation to be is, well, you should keep looking because we know that there are records missing. and there were tons of more government records, thousands of pages of government records, and of course hundreds of pages of classified documents, erin. >> evan, thank you very much. so ryan goodman, co-editor and the former special counsel to the defense department along with former trump white house

commun communications director. thanks to both of you. 12 boxes of clippings, that's what you would have found at my mother's house. it wasn't just newspaper clippings. it's newspaper clippings and there's about 12 boxes. what does it tell you of mark meadow's description. i don't even know how many boxes. but he was completely wrong. >> right. he was off by a little, it might be explicable but we really are talking about dozens of boxes and over 300 classified documents and several of them with color-coded front covers that tay secret, top secret and the rest of it. so there's a clearly false statement that he's conveying to the national archives. i think he faces criminal jeopardy if he knew that what he wa was a false statement. maybe trump lies to him, for example, and then he conveys

that to the archives. but that's i think the issue for him. and i think that that would be of concern for him and his lawyers. >> i want to ask you about the implications of that. first of all, you know him so let's talk about this. what do you think is happening here? would he really go and represent in something so important just repeating what trump said? >> giving him the best degree of the benefit of the doubt i can give him is the final months of the trump presidency were a very chaotic period. think of january 6th onto the inauguration when he had to leave the white house. i don't think this is out of the realm of possibility that things were just getting thrown in boxes. i know that white house staff, there was no organization, there was no transitioning him out of office. so there could be a level of that. but that's straining kind of he was tasked to oversee the archives. he was the assigned person

representing there. he should've known better. i do think what's interesting about this is it signals that meadows is -- i think that he's probably cooperating more than we realize with the department of justice. >> okay. so if that's the case, that means that he is, what, maybe trying to make up for things like this or, i mean, who knows. do you think it's possible that he is now cooperating a lot more maybe, in part, because of a statement like that, which was, at best, clueless and lazy and at worst a lie? >> i think so. and also the fact that we haven't heard him on the air waves trying to defend trump or anything like it. and we know that philbin who's part of this set of events is speaks to the fbi at least in spring of this year. so the idea at least that they wouldn't have reached out to him is a stretch of the imagination. so i think they have reached out to him. and then he's either cooperating because he's a direct witness or he's cooperating because he has a certain level of criminal jeopardy. and the implications go mar-a-lago.

because if he is cooperating and flips, that might implicate president trump and all sorts of things with respect to january 6th. because i think he'd be a key witness against him. >> you can't open one of these boxes now without the others. i mean you can't keep them separate. how loyal is mark meadows to trump? >> i think he's very loyal. i think that's something that we've seen in hez tenure as chief of staff. but i think that any person who has a family, wants to have a future is going to think about their legal jeopardy. i've worked for mark for nomany years. cooperate, it's never too late to do the right thing. the universe of who would know about these documents at mar-a-lago is actually fairly small, i would guess, just having been in trump world, who both knew what was transported from the white house and then was on property there. so i wouldn't be shocked if this, you know, part of what led to the raid could've actually in fact come from meadows. >> so that he could have

realized, wait a minute, i'm going to do the right thing. >> and pat philbin is a serious by-the-book attorney. and there's a reason he came out clearly and said i was misled on this. and, next, more russians calling for putin to resign over the military fiasco in ukraine. should he be worried about a coup? my next guest a longtime intelligence official with a focus on russia says yes. and the great flip-flop. election deniers suddenly toning down their messages. n aarp medicare supplement t insurane plan from unitedhealthcare and get help protecting yourself from the out-of-pocket costs medicare doesn't p pay. because the time to prepare is before you go on medicare. don't wait. get started today. call unitedhealthcare for your free decision guide.

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tonight, president biden warning vladimir putin against escalating the war in ukraine by using nuclear or chemical weapons. >> don't, don't, don't. you will change the face of war unlike anything since world war ii. >> this as president zelenskyy of ukraine says some of the bodies found in at least 440 unmarked graves at a mass burial site in izyum show, quote, signs

of torture. this coming as putin facing growing dissent in russia. matthew chance is out front. >> reporter: ukraine's gain here set to dramatic music by their own troops is increasing putin's loss. russia's stunning military setbacks stirring broad public criticism at home, which shocked military hardliners voicing anger. >> hi, i'm dimitry. >> reporter: and dozens of elected local russian politicians too signing an official petition offered by this local chancellor demanding president putin be impeached. russia fines people for speaking out. >> well, obviously russian army is being destroyed right now. so, we'll lose people, we'll

lose weapons, and we'll lose our ability to defend. >> reporter: and that fact that the russian army is suffering these setbacks, that is fueling anger, isn't it, not just amongst liberal aspects of russian society but also amongst hard liners as well. they're furious. >> yeah. actually pro war activists now really feel betrayed. and there is a point where both liberal group of people and pro war group of people can have the same goal. >> reporter: and like these early antiwar protesters in moscow back in february, hard liners complain of russia being too soft on ukraine and sending woefully underprepared troops into battle. but it's the heavy price russia is paying where there may be

common cause. >> hi, my name is -- >> reporter: and why another russian counselor called for putin to resign. the kremlin strongman, she told me, is depriving russians of a future. >> russians have become poor, they are not welcome anywhere. and there is less of facilities, supplies. russia doesn't really produce anything itself. and i don't know what future can be for the country which is isolated. >> can you talk to me about what impact that lack of a future is having on people that you speak to? >> ah, well, it's quite depressing now, very depressing atmosphere in russia, and the frustration feeling fear, anger, shame. >> the kremlin insists the mood of the people is still with the russian president. but the growing criticism at

home and abroad may at least threaten to take the swagger out of putin's step. >> well, erin, tonight, at least 70 russian local politicians have now signed the petition for vladimir putin to resign, which is an extraordinarily high number in a country which never really did but certainly no longer tolerates public dissent, let alone official dissent from the kremlin line. the five politicians that called for his impeachment, they've been fined. but the kremlin isn't taking really strong action against him, and i think that's really telling of the sensitivity in russia right now. >> matthew chance, thank you so much. and that petition matthew is referring to, just 72 hours ago there were 25 brave signatories. now, despite, right, those fines, 70? that says something. and i want to bring in steve hall, the former cia chief of

russia operations based in moscow. so, steve, you hear matthew talk about this laying out the rise in dissent in russia right now that is growing. so what do you see in this? >> well, it's important to understand that the things obviously work differently in russia than they do in a place that has a democracy like the united states or any of the european union countries. there is no democracy in russia. so when you have people speaking out like this, first of all, they're going to do it very carefully. but putin isn't particularly, i don't think, worried about them. he's got spies all around them. he's a former intelligence officer. he knows the importance of spying on dissidents and controlling their actions so he knows what they're up to and he's probably got them under control because he can simply throw them in jail any time he wants. that's what he does is he represses. but there is another group of people, these are close advisers to putin, it comes from the russian word for power. these are like the head of the intelligence service, some seniors in the military.

and when they start noticing these people speaking out in russia, then they begin to get worried that the entire system that putin has put together, which they benefit from, is coming apart. and when that happens it's those people that get worried and think i wonder if putin is the right guy to be the president right now. >> so i spoke the other day with one of the russian politicians who is demanding putin's resignation. he said that these russian elites -- perhaps some of those you're referring to but also some of the oligarch types he was referring to, that he says putin needs. want to go back to what they had before the war and that they are fed up with putin. here's what he said. >> translator: putin is very dependent on the elites. he he maken their lives difficult. one solution is to throw them under the bus to get back the lives they were living before. >> throw them under the bus.

is that on the table, do you think, steve, from what you know so well about this country, something so far as a coup? >> so the russian ecosystem is a difficult one. i mean, the political and social ecosystem. so you've got oligarchs who do play an important role. they make a lot of money not only for themselves but also for the companies and for russia and of course importantly for putin. but, again, it's not the oligarchs i think that are going to rise up against putin. they could help, they could instigate. but you'll remember one of the prominent oligarchs ten years ago was thrown into jail for precisely getting into politics. again it's these close advisers to him. it's people who control these security services, control the police have their hands on the lever of power and who up till now had been doing what putin says because they're all part of the system that everybody benefits from if you're high up enough in russia. but, again, when things start to come apart, they're going to think back to gorbachev in 1991 when the soviet union was coming apart and a coup attempt was

made against him. it was unsuccessful. but there is precedent for this, and i'm sure president putin remembers this clearly. >> if anyone claims to be a greater student of history as a world leader, i don't know of one. thank you very much, i appreciate it. next the great flip-flop. >> trump won the election and, damn it, i stand by my election. >> i have come to the conclusion and i want to be definitive on this. the election was not stolen. >> why are republican candidates suddenly accepting the election results? and queueing up in a miles' long line to pay respects to the queen. among them, british football star david beckham. he stood in line for 12 hours to say good bye.

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tonight the republican candidate for pennsylvania governor questioning the 2020 election at a rally this afternoon where he was joined by donald trump jr. >> voting integrity, wow. oh, my goodness. [ cheers and applause ] i've seen better elections in afghanistan. not hyperbole. >> it does come as other republican candidates are dialing back their rhetoric ahead of the midterms. out front now cnn politics reporter and editor-at-large.

he was even on january 6th at the capitol. he is not letting up. he is standing by when he said, better elections in afghanistan, not hyperbole, is it working? >> that was an interesting case because while you see a lot of republicans trying to get away from some of these positions they take in the primary, he's leaning into it. there hasn't been a ton of polling done in the race. but josh shapiro, i think most would agree that he's ahead. there hasn't been a candidate who has not attempted even, and really he was not even attempting to appeal to the middle. he is running as though he's still running in a republican primary even though he's running in the general election. this was the fear of many republicans when mastriano started to emerge as the likely nominee. i'm interested to see how he

does. my guess is if the election were held today, shapiro would win and might win relatively handily. obviously we know pennsylvania's a swing state. they have not nominated a candidate like this in the past. >> what he's doing is different than we're seeing elsewhere. enter don bolduc. in a sense you've got to give someone credit for being willing to say the sky is blue and the sky is black back-to-back and without shame and owning the flip-flop. he won his primary this week in new hampshire. here he is, the first sound bite is what he said when he was in the primary. and the second sound bite is what he said after he went out and did an interview. >> i signed a letter with 120 other generals and admirals saying that trump won the election, and, damn it i stand by it. i want to be definitive on this. the election was not stolen. president biden is the

legitimate president of this country. >> okay, i mean, but, you know what, i like the look on your face. he owns that. he owns that flip-flop. the guy isn't trying to dabble around -- no, no, no, okay. but that stands out. is that what republican candidates have to do? he clearly thinks he needs to do that to win the general. >> i just want to make one quick point on that for our viewers who are watching closely. august 14th was the date of that first clip you played. this wasn't six months ago that he said that about donald trump and the stolen election. this was a month ago. and then he wins the primary and all of a sudden things are different. you know, i think in a lot of these states, we've seen it in arizona, you're seeing it now in new hampshire. you're seeing these candidates where they have to run to the extreme far right because that's where the base of the party is. donald trump controls the base of the party, and the base of the party is using election denialism as a litmus test.

they have to run that base of the party. but once they become the nominee, they know that centrist and dependent voters are not motivated by that. rarely do you see a u-turn as stark as don bolduc. but you're seeing it play out in other places, again, pennsylvania is a really notable exception where doug mastriano appears to be running a republican primary throughout the general election. >> bolduc, that budded sound bite, as we call it, is one of the most incredible. >> and it was a month apart. >> it wasn't as if this was a year ago or, you know, new information came in. >> right. >> all right. thank you. next soccer super star david beckham among the hundreds of thousands in his case waiting 12 hours. now people are waiting a lot more, but he waited 12 hours to bid queen elizabeth a final farewell. and president biden meeting with the families of russian

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state is nearly 20 hours. there are just about two days left until her funeral, so these are the last momts. and right before that funeral begins you can't go. they had to turn people away from joining the line at one point today because it was growing so quickly. while a lot of figures made it to westminster hall today in addition to the tens of thousands waiting the new zealand prime minister waying hours and david beckham. >> by 2 a.m. it was going to be quieter, i was wrong. everybody wants to be here to be part of this experience and celebrate what her majesty has done for us. >> richard quest is live out front from london. and richard, david beckham wanted to do it the way that everybody else did it, and he waited 12 hours, atep pringles,

drank coffee. i know the estimated wait time is 20 hours. >> there is ramping up, if you will, of tension in a gentle sort of way if that is a contradiction. you can feel the energy of the people that something's going to happen. we know a major event on monday. and as we get closer and closer to that, it's like a pressure cooker that slowly builds up. people are wondering what it will be like. where will i be? what are you going to do? where are you going to watch it? are you going to go and see it. and there's a camaraderie. i think it's camaraderie on the streets. brits love to make small talk while they queue. it doesn't matter if you're at the bus stop, post office or waiting in line in state. ooh, that's a nice sandwich, would you like a cup of tea, are

you are all right, love. or she's so wonderful the queen. and that's the beauty of this, erin, as you'll see when you come here. the beauty is this is the country coming together and people being themselves. >> there was a powerful moment today with the new king and the children. obviously he's head of the church of england which has been so important his life, but he said he'll protect the diversity of the country. what does that tell you? >> well, many years ago -- people have forgotten this, but part of his title, his official title as king is defender of the faith. the faith being the church of england. however, many years ago he caused controversy when he said besides being defender of the faith i want to be defender of faith. now, this was revolutionary 20,

30 years ago but that is what he sets it out britain as a multicultural, multitolerant society, and he wants to present that in the wider text. by the way, erin, when you're coming to london do bring warm clothes. the temperature has dropped. autumn is here. >> all right, richard, thank you so very much. and i love the importance -- just everyone understand the importance of a word, just a small and powerful word, the word "the." and a reminder i'll be in london, cnn's coverage that starts at 5 a.m. the stronger, laststs-lonr energizer max. before we begin, i'd like to thank our sponsor, liberty mutual. they customize your car insurance, so you onlpay for what you need.

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. president biden just wrapping up a meeting with the wife of wnba star brittney griner who's being held in russia. cnn's abbey philip reporting the president met with griner's wife for more than an hour earlier today. and biden met with the family of paul whelan who's also a prisoner of russia. two separate meetings in which biden is not going to let up --

his words -- on getting them home. the white house says there's been movement with russia but not a breakthrough. griner has been held since february on drug charges, whelan for three years on alleged espionage, which he denies. the white house offered to release a notorious arms dealer in exchange for whelan and griner. there's been so far no response from putin to that offer. thanks for joining us. "anderson" starts now. good evening. the very best this country can be was on display today as 15 migrants flown to martha's vineyard shared a state promising to shelter them and provide emergency services. today they were sent to a military base on cape cod after locals had donated man power and tens of thousands of dollars to help and also greeting them. cnn has spoken to more than a dozen of these venezuelans, all of those who say they're fleeing oppression i