classified documents. and the fact she's restricted doj from even using them as they continue on in their investigation. >> elie, our legal mind here, does it say something to you the justice department is only asking an appeals court to put on hold parts of judge canon's order, not the whole thing? >> it does, don. this is as jessica said a limited appeal. it's also a strategic appeal. just for perspective here, we remember doj seized 11,000 documents out of mar-a-lago. they don't like the special master ruling as to any of it. they lost all 11,000 documents. what they're doing here is saying, okay, let's carve out the most important to us, doj, 100 of those documents. they've essentially given up on there being a special master for the other 10,900 documents. they said with respect to the classified documents those should not go to the special master. we should be able to use them in our criminal investigation as well as our national security

investigation. by doing that they've limited the up side. they're not going to get the special master kicked out altogether, but they've limited their down side because if you take an appeal and lose on the whole thing in the 11th circuit that's really bad for doj. that sets an even worse precedent for doj. so i think they're being tactical and strategic. >> this whole process is being dragged out. is trump getting what he wants especially if this works its way all the way up to the supreme court? >> to be sure, don. we have seen donald trump use delay as a tactic plenty of times before often successfully. here we are six weeks after that search was done at mar-a-lago and the special master hasn't gotten started yet and now he has until november 30th to get this done, and we've got a pending at least a request for stay going up to the court of appeals. yes, it's moving slowly, and yes, delay is to donald trump's benefit. >> phil mudd, does it make any

sense to you this judge canon wouldn't allow the justice department to have access to classified documents while the special master review is happening? >> i can't figure this one out. i could understand why the president would want to go down this path. this is not just a legal process. this is a way to continue to argue as the president has argued all along that he's a victim and the department of justice and the fbi's seizure took documents they shouldn't have taken. that's a political move. but it's hard to see at the end of this at november 30th, which is the deadline for special master, anybody could look at top secret documents, intercepts of foreign communications and say somehow those were executive privilege or even elie is suggesting even to say there's a reason for a special master to look at those and make a judgment about those. i think the department of justice decided to make this a narrow case because they're on far more solid ground than saying, for example, a letter from rudy giuliani and the

president shouldn't be reviewed by the special master. of course it should be reviewed. that makes sense to me. but why review an intercept of a foreign communication. that's not an executive privilege document. i think the doj might win on this one. >> let me ask you about this because i know you have a feeling about this. what do you think about the doj's case getting more compelling or less compelling against the former president? >> i will tell you i don't think it's getting more compelling. i don't think january 6 is. i'm talking specifically about the president, not about the case more broadly. and to talk about mar-a-lago, i don't think so. elie would know more about this than i do, but i know prosecutors -- and i've watched them argue a long time around the table at the fbi. they don't like to lose. so you go into this case and say somebody -- we don't know who but somebody brought down or authorized a bunch of documents from the white house. somebody kept those documents in a room. somebody decided to turn the department of justice they

shouldn't turn those documents over to the fbi and to the department of justice. and the president's going to say i didn't -- i don't know what came from the white house. i didn't tell kwbd to do anything. i don't know what this lawyer did. i still don't think that president trump is going to get charged in this case, and i would be surprised if he does. i'm not saying he didn't do anything wrong, and i'm not saying he's not responsible. i'm saying if you're looking for reasonable doubt, i would argue he's still got it. >> is this rep reasonable doubt, elie? do you agree with what he said? is this a case of reasonable doubt here or something for a jury? >> i think phil has seized on exactly the most important issue and the biggest challenge facing prosecutors and the fbi here is you have to establish knowledge and intent beyond a reasonable doubt. that is not easy. and let's keep in mind we've heard trump's defenses here publicly, which have been all over the map, internally contradictory, nonsensical. he doesn't have to make a single defense in court.

he can sit back and say you have to satisfy your burden. prosecutors can't charge a case unless and until they can establish knowledge and intent beyond a reasonable doubt. as phil said, look, there's a lot we don't know publicly. we're getting a lot of really important reporting. we're seeing some really crucial details in the court filings, but the biggest question i have is can prosecutors nail down in a reliable specific way donald trump knew what was happening and had intent to break these laws. that's always the biggest challenge and i think there's still a lot of questions whether they can do that here. >> jessica schneider, the special mast in this case has scheduled a hearing for today. what are you expecting from that? >> yes, while this appeal is playing out, the special master has got to move forward here, and that's because the judge said he has ten days to come up with a schedule about how this entire process is going to move forward. actually to come up with that schedule he needs to conifer with trump attorneys or doj prosecutors. the special mast here is going to hold a preliminary

conference. it'll be on tuesday at 2:00 p.m. it'll be at the federal courthouse in brooklyn. that's where judge dearie sits as a senior judge. he has to come up with this schedule in conference with the two sides. the clock is already ticking. he's got until november 30th to review what amounts to 11,000 documents that includes the 100 classified documents. the judge saying he has to review those 100 classified documents first, but wale see if that moves forward given the appeal here. but he does have to start moving on this in the meantime, which he is on tuesday. >> a former deputy white house counsel pat philben told the national archives the boxes at mar-a-lago were just news clippings he said he was told that by mark meadows. mark meadow's spokesperson is saying, quote, mr. meadows did not personally view the boxes at

mar-a-lago and did not have a vole in verifying what was or wasn't contained within them. he said he didn't actually know what was inside. so who told meadows that it was just clippings? >> well, exactly. let the game of finger pointing begin. i mean, clearly this is a false statement there were only newspaper clippings, no sensitive or classified documents. we know for a fact that is false. the question is not just who made the false statement but who knowingly made the false statement. and it does not surprise me at all that everybody down the line, philben saying i didn't come up with this myself, i was told by meadows. we just saw a statement by meadows saying meadows didn't come up with this himself, he was told by somebody. as a prosecutor you have to show that knowledge. so you need to try to if you can follow that train of communication to find the person who knowingly made false statements. >> all right. so in this, elie, all these people have to do is say i don't

know it was him, i don't know it was him. that doesn't work on the street. that doesn't work for the average citizen. why does it work for these guys? >> no. you're right, because we're in court not on the street. >> i'm talking about the average person on the street who's facing a legal case who says it wasn't me and they end up behind bars. >> well, in any case -- in any case prosecutors have to establish their burdenf proof. they have to show knowledge in any perjury case, any obstruction case. you have to show the person who knowingly obstructed justice. there are ways to do that. >> but the documents are at mar-a-lago. it's like saying i don't know how these drugs got here but they're in my house, but i don't know who brought them in. it could have been that person. but i -- you own that property therefore it is in your property, and that is -- they're in your possession. you go to jail. >> well, let's stay with that analogy, though. i think that's a really good analogy. let's say you live in a house

with 12 other people, an apartment building, a common house with 12 other people. you can't just arrest and indict 12 other people. >> you live in the house, you're the owner, the drugs are in your house. >> not necessarily. >> you're not going to go to jail. really? >> not unless prosecutors can prove it. let's say you have five children and they find drugs somewhere in the house. they can't just go who owns this house and you're indicted. they have to show the proof. i'm not being defeatist here. prosecutors do this all the time -- >> elie, we're talking about we know the drugs are yours because they came from your other house. >> well, that's an important piece of advice but there's a lot of people -- there's a lot of people who had access -- >> they're classified documents that were in his possession at the other house ended up at his other house, but yet and still

he doesn't know how they got there? elie, come on, man. really? >> and his response is going to be and how many people -- how many dozens or hundreds of people were in and out of the first house and the second house. i don't move my own stuff. i'm donald trump, i'm not going to pack boxes and duct tape. i want to make this point. we get into this and it's great. i am telling you how prosecutors are thinking and approaching their jobs. i'm not necessarily telling you what is the way we wish the world could be. so i'm trying to approach this from a very pragmatic point what prosecutors need to prove and establish before they bring a charge. >> look, i'm not saying the way we wish it could be. i'm trying to wrap my brain around and thinking the way people are thinking at home. the documents were in his possession as he was president. they ended up in the residence, they were packed into boxes by whoever did it and ended up at

his other residence. chain of possession, he was the one in possession of those documents, therefore he was responsible for those documents. so if those documents ended up in his residence or in the car, in the beast, or on air force one, he's the person who's responsible for maintaining and the possession of those documents. i'm having a hard time wrapping my head around this -- i don't get it. i don't get it. >> you've got the foundation of a case. you've got the beginning of a case. i don't think prosecutors would tell you just saying it was in-house "a," it was in-house "b." >> not even negligence? nothing? >> well, negligence is not a crime. you can't charge someone -- for the most part you can't charge someone with negligence except in limited circumstances. >> for top secret documents? i okay. >> the law says willful, which is knowing and intentional. >> don, you're right you're

wrong. >> it seems to me like wait a minute you started -- this was in your possession and all of a sudden you moved it somewhere else so therefore it's not in your possession anymore just doesn't really make seps. but maybe legally somehow it does make sense. >> one quick factual point this is one reason why donald trump doesn't write e-mails. it's he said, she said. there's no e-mail, i never told anybody to do anything. that's what he's going to say. >> i've got to go -- producers are telling me i've got to go. it is a salient point you need to make or we want to move on? >> it's fine, but we can move on. >> thank you, guys. see you. have a good weekend. a secret plan to unceremoniously dump desperate men, women and children seeking asylum in the land of the free and brave, dump there far from anywhere they know, is it right

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plane to martha's vineyard transported to a military base to receive shelter and humanitarian support and desantis is vowing to send more migrants to other states. here with me, bakari sellers and scott jennings. good evening to you. you're right here. let me start with you. governor desantis intends to use every penny of the $12 million in his state budget to relocate these migrants. you have to think what we saw from him, this is just the beginning. >> i mean, i don't really care about that. i think that the root of the problem is that these are men, women and children, these are real life human beings and what you're seeing from governor desantis and governor abbott, individuals that refer to themselves as evangelical christians is anything but. the morality of it before you get to the legality of it, they're using men, women and

, you know, i think there's a kidnapping. there is a human trafficking component. they coerced people under false pretenses to get on a plane using state dollars and flew them somewhere where they had no idea where they were going. and for everyone watching tonight and for my republicans watching tonight, the simple fact is for individuals who call themselves christian, and i know we have individuals watching from different walks of life, what ron desantis did is the furthest thing from it. and i hope that people watch this show tonight will feel that the morality lapse of someone like governor desantis shows he is incapable of being a leader. >> but the people of martha's vineyard they did step up and provided humanitarian --

>> the weird part of this whole discussion, and i drank trukeela a few hours ago and i will drink it, so i'm anything from being a pastor, but i will tell you this the people of martha's vineyard showed what it means to be american. ron desantis did not. >> scott, i want you to get in here. because desantis defended sending the migrants because he said many people who cross the border end up in his state. listen to this and i want to get your response. >> they've been in texas identifying people trying to come to florida and then offering them free transportation to sanctuary jurisdictions. and so they went from texas to florida to martha's vineyard. >> so, scott, talk to me. how is it a good idea to take people from one state and send them to another when neither are -- neither of those states are florida?

why's he seeking them out and getting involved in this? and i want you to respond to what bakari said. >> sure, i'll take your second part first. he's getting involved for two reasons. i talked to a lot of republicans today squarely behind what desantis and abbott are doing. he's responding to an up rising trying to draw attention to the crisis that is the united states southern border. so that's number one. two, there's clearly a political c component to this. responding to bakari for a moment about the morality of all this. back in the trump years we were repeatedly lectured it was immoral to try to put up border walls, put up border security and keep people out. now people are coming and they're being relocated not just by abbott and desantis but by the biden administration all over the country -- >> that's not true. >> and that's also immoral. >> but that's not true. >> i don't understand -- it is true. the biden administration for the

last 18 months. >> respectfully, scott, the difference -- >> no, respectfully, bakari, it is true. you're not going to call me a liaron television. >> i'm not going to call you a liar on television but i am going to say what you're saying is patently false. >> it's not false. >> what you saw from the desantis administration that is different from the biden administration was coercion. you saw a simple fact -- and this actually is true. this is the legality of it. and what you saw was individuals who got on a plane leaving florida going to martha's vineyard under the impression they were going somewhere else for the purpose of doing something else. >> why did they have maps that say you're going to martha's vineyard? then why did they have maps that say you're going to martha's vineyard in. >> because when you get on an airplane and get a ticket and someone says simply to you you're going to do something else for the purpose of something else, that's called

coercion. so when people get upset and out raged over the simple fact i say this is trafficking or kidnapping or whatever it may be, the difference of what roron desantis and joe biden are doing is quite simple. you may disagree with me and that's fine. but the coercion they used to get these people on a plane, but these are men, women, and children. these are literally individuals, and the funny thing about this, scott, is that you and many others are going to go out and profess -- and not you as individuals going out to campaign, are going to profess based on some morality and that goes out the window when you coerce people to get on a plane with a child and take them to washington, d.c., for example, and drop them off on the side of the street or take them to martha's vineyard and drop them off when they don't know they're going there. so we can play political games all we want, but what i am saying --

>> number one, i don't profess to be better than anybody. >> i wasn't referring to you. i actually like you, scott, so i'm not referring to you. >> number two, they did know where they're going. you're not telling the truth about that. >> bakari -- hold on, both of you. just because they hand them a map that says martha's vineyard doesn't mean they know where they're going. >> they're fleeing communism, the same thing that people -- >> i got off the plane in london and they handed me a map i still didn't know where i was going. >> why are you so opposed to -- >> you know why i'm outraged? >> i'm confused about -- these people came here and they're in the united states. they didn't come here to stop -- i don't know exactly where they thought they were going. i know this they thought they were going to the united states, they made it, then they wind up in, you know, a pretty nice

place or wind up in new york city -- >> but i think you're missing his point. what he's saying is that -- hold on. hold on. hang on, bakari, because i'm listening to both of you. what he's saying is that they were lured under false pretenses. they were coerced into going someplace under false pretenses. >> i disagree. >> they may have gone to texas thinking they're going to texas or what have you and you send them off to iowa and saying these people are going to look out for you and there are facilities there and there's not. >> i think the reason you and i get along very well and i think the reason people are responsive to us on tv is we're above the gamesmanship, regardless of how we defend it on any particular term. what i'm saying today is that the gamesmanship using actual human beings as pawns, i will debate with you until we are blue in the face about tax policy or gas prices or chicken wings and the fact that inflation is a monster right now. i will debate with you that all

day. what i don't want are people who are men, women, and children being used as political pawns. and for me that takes me to another level of being red hot. >> i've got to go, but this is what's frustrating. what's frustrating is we're talking about this and not talking about comprehensive immigration policy, things that will actually make a difference. we're talking about political stunts here. and we're talking about it because lawmakers aren't talking about it. and so that's what's frustrating. well, i mean lawmakers are aren't talking about so we're not talking about it. they're not actually doing anything about it. now we're talking about political gamesmanship and using people as pawns rather than comprehensive policy, and that's what we should be talking about. i've got to go. obviously the conversation will continue. thousands still line up to pay their respects to the queen at westminster hall. next i'll talk to king charles' goddaughter about the upcoming funeral.

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thousands of people lining up for hours for the chance to pay their respects to queen elizabeth ahead of her state funeral on monday. the line reaching nearly 5 miles long earlier today forcing authorities to close it tonight. joining me now is india hicks. india is king charles' goddaughter and a brides maid at charles and diana's wedding. she's the ambassador to the prince's trust. hello to you, india. thanks for joining.

we saw king charles and his siblings standing vigil today as the public walk through westminster hall to pay their respects. what has this last week meant to you as the world prepares for the queen's funeral on monday? >> don, i think it's much less about me. it's much more about the family who are grieving obviously for their mother, for their grandmother, and they're having to do it in such a public way. every single move is scrutinized and watched by the world. must be an incredibly difficult, utterly exhausting time for them all. >> the queen's eight grandchildren will stand vigil beside her coffin on saturday evening. and at king charles' request both his sons will be in uniform. harry was not in military dress at previous events. he was in a mourning suit with his medals. this seems an indication of the king's effort to smooth the relations within his own family,

no? >> i think when you're going through a funeral on this level where it is not just the united kingdom or the commonwealth but it is the world watching, i think you do want to come together as a family as much as you possibly can. >> you know funerals have a way of bringing families together in shared grief, and i think there's a lot of people who would like to see prince william and harry mend their relationship. what do you think about that? >> you know, i'm not close enough to have any inside information on that, and i think that, you know, as anybody would hope for reconciliation between brothers as much as possible. >> yeah. i meant the general public, not any insight on the family. but i think most people would like to see that. i think even the people in england would like to see that, and i think the people in america would like to see that. is that a fair assessment? >> i think what we need to focus on is that there is a core group

of working royals, and i think what we're going to see from the prince of wales who's now king charles, that there's going to be a modernization of the monarchy, which is needed. that they need to be able to survive in some way, and being able to modernize that's important. and i think we'll see it as a very strong fore there with king charles and his wife who's an incredibly sensible, strong woman beside him and to have catherine and william also there to draw in the other generations behind them, i think we've got a fantastic form. >> you think they can do it because they want to slim down and modernize at the same time. that may be a bit of a task. >> i think we've been seeing that over the past couple of years, certainly. the queen has been very good about that as well. and i think that it is necessary. and we see that core group of working royals doing an astounding amount of work, an astounding amount of good.

if you think really a lot of these royals are there for the charitable work that they do. and i thank you for mentioning both the prince's trust and global foundation. global mission i've worked for a while, but the prince's trust is a very strong foundation put in place by prince charles who was prescient in the way he was looking at the world. we were all saying he's hugging trees. of course now we're all hugging trees. we're all trying to be more green in our thinking, and he was doing that long before any of us. i think that's really interesting. >> yeah, the world came around to where he was -- at least they met him finally. so princess anne has accompanied the coffin throughout this whole process. what do you think about how she's really risen to this occasion in this moment, india? >> i think she is a sensational woman. i think she's absolutely the

epitome of a strong english woman who has defined her own role. she's taken her own path in things. again, it must have been very difficult to be the daughter of the queen. you know, you have to be able to forge your own way and make your own path. and i think she's done that, and in a very quiet way, in a very solid way, but in a quiet way. it's never flashy, never attention seeking. there is never any drama. >> you know, you posted a photo on your instagram of your mother and the queen, and you talk about how the queen would come and stay. and on such visits -- such a visit she took issue with your mom's pet mongoose. we have to hear more about that. what was that all about? >> she took issue with the fact the mongoose would come into her room and help herself to the box of chocolates. it wasn't that he took one chocolate. the queen would have no problem

sharing her chocolates. it's that he took a bite out of each. it's very difficult to know the flavor of a chocolate until you've taken a bite out of it, so i'm entirely the side of the mongoose. >> probably better it's chocolate and wasn't her famous sandwich she likes so much. so i know we can cut the mongoose some slack. thank you, india, i appreciate your time. and you be well and i'm sorry for your loss. >> thank you. >> make sure you join me, anderson cooper, erin burnett, as u.k. and the world remembers the queen. the state funeral of queen elizabeth ii monday, 5:00 a.m. eastern right here on cnn. president biden today meeting with the families of brittney griner and paul whelan. cnn caught up with griner's family. what they're saying next. so go to carvana enter your license plate answer a few questions and our techno wizardry calculates your car's value and gives you a real offer in seconds

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so president biden meeting the families of wrongfully detained americans brittney griner and paul whelan at the white house. the president assure them his white house is committed to bringing their loved ones home from russia but weeks after the u.s. offered a deal, will they be freed any time soon? joining me now to discuss jonathan franks a consultant on the trevor reed case and also president of lucid strategies. jonathan, thank you for joining. after the meeting, brittney griner's wife cherelle griner telling cnn's abby philip she

believes the administration is working hard but that they haven't, quote, quite figured out exactly what russia wants in return for brittney griner. what is your reaction to that? >> it sounds consistent with what i've heard, and thanks for having me back, don. i think that the -- there is some stagnation, and it's because of the russian side at the moment, not the american side. >> a senior administration official is telling cnn, quote, there's been movement but not breakthroughs on getting these americans back. did the biden administration miscalculate when they offered their deal earlier this summer? >> i don't know if they misclal clated about the deal. i wonder if they miscalculated about making it public. again, there may have been a great reason for doing that. it still baffles me, but the fact we've seen no deal yet makes one wonder if that was a

good idea. >> biden is also praising the courage of paul whelan's family. he's been in prison for three years after being convicted of espionage charges he vehemently denies and the u.s. has denounced. what do you think putin's gain is here? >> i think putin's aim is, "a," get back victor, and "b," troll of us. i think he sees opportunity in us versus them dynamics in our discourse. he knows that causes political chaos here. he can't win in the battle in ukraine so why not create some chaos in the united states? i suspect that's what it's about. >> the former governor was in moscow this week, but the white house was pouring cold-water on his efforts. are they worried this could

undercut their own efforts? >> i don't know about that. to me if this thing is too sensitive for governor richardson, it's probably too sensitive to be, you know, announcing offers in public. it just doesn't make a lot of sense to me. this has been, you know, the rivalry between the governor and the government at times it just seems unnecessary. and i don't know why they need to pour cold-water on it like that. >> thank you, jonathan. i appreciate it. be well. >> thanks, don. the ceo of paypal threatening to end their relationship with the phoenix suns. we'll tell you why. that's next.

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but the players association says he should be banned for life. i want to bring in now cnn's sports analyst christine brennen. thank you, christine. i appreciate you joining us. the nba is facing major blow back for this decision. what is going on here? >> well, when a sponsor, don, starts to talk then people listen. that's exactly what happened with the washington football team with the racist nickname, all of a sudden one sponsor after another said you've got to get rid of it, and within a few days a long-standing name, the skins, was gone. and i think that's the same what we're looking at here. it is stunning that he was suspended only one year. although, owners it's a different situation, unfortunately. to get rid of an owner in one of these leagues you have to have three fourths of the other owners agree to ged rid of that owner, and of course a lot of

them are looking around and wondering if they're next. so my sense here is because of the backlash, because we've heard from lebron james, chris paul, obviously the players association, now one of the sponsors, my sense is that sarver is not going to be long for his ownership of the suns and mercury. i've got to believe this is going to end soon because now it's become a public relations nightmare not just for the league but also for him personally. when people don't want you around it's really hard to stay around. and i think that that's what's building here. and i think sarver will eventually be gone. >> i want to turn now to the nfl, christine. they are taking some serious heat after releasing a special edition logo for the start of latino heritage month. the logo added what was supposed to look like a tilde over the "n" of the nfl shield. the nfl is saying in a statement the league is proud to celebrate latino heritage month by highlighting nfl players, coaches and staff while partnering with the hispanic heritage foundation and the hispanic alliance for career

enhancement. it appears they had all good intentions but something went wrong here. what was it? >> the accent, the tilde is inappropriate to be used in that way on that letter. and so it is an affront to all spanish speaking people. and what is kind of amazing to me is the nfl covered it for years, know a lot of people there, how they wouldn't have run this by someone who speaks spanish, who is hispanic, latino, latinx, and said would you just double-check this for us. because what's happened something that's good, something trying to reach a population that is growing, and that, don, is going to be a bedrock of your fan base for the next 50, 60 years onward as we become a majority minority nation, and those people are probably going to love their nfl football as much as their moms and dads and grandmothers and grandfathers did, that's your group.

that's a group of people you want to reach in addition to women, people of color, others as well. so why wouldn't you double-check this? and maybe they did and the person they talked to didn't do a good job of it, but you've created a controversy where this was supposed to be a really good thing and now it's turned into a bad thing, and that is exactly what you don't want as you're trying to celebrate a culture by denigrating that culture. >> christine brennen, thank you so much. i appreciate it. we'll be right back.

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supplies for their classrooms. this week's cnn hero is a high school english teacher in new jersey who sprang into action when he realized kids didn't have access to books and teachers were struggling to provide them. meet larry abrams. >> so many of us have heard about food deserts but there's also these things called book deserts, areas where people just don't have access to books. there are pockets of poverty where they don't have them in their homes. there are no libraries. in the great forest a little elephant is born. the most important tool they get are words. and there are some kids who grow up hearing lots and lots of words because they're read to every single night. kids living in book deserts don't have that, and so reading and books helps level that playing field. very good stuff. this was a great haul. giving kids books almost ensures academic success. what we do is irrigate book

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