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and they are out there saying that they will help trump undermine democracy if they win, and that is what this is about. >> yeah. they're boasting about it. jake, your reporting so important and relevant for the future as well. we appreciate it. thanks so much. >> thank you, pamela. >> the cnn special report "american coup, the january 6th investigation" starts right now. >> announcer: the following is a cnn special report. tonight -- what's the bottom line you want the american people to know? >> there was a very sophisticated multi-part plan overseen by donald trump. >> you can't ever accept when they steal and rig and rob. >> to attempt to stay in power.
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>> as the longest, largest investigation into donald trump's attempt to stay president barrels toward conclusion, we put it all together. >> i've got three men walking down the street in fatigues and carrying an ar-15. >> i heard saying something to the effect i don't care they have weapons, let my people in. >> new insight from witnesses. >> you want me to take my state, 3.2 million voters, and just throw them out the window? >> was he asking you to commit a crime? >> it gets back to the criminal intent issue. i don't know what he believed. >> the unanswered questions. >> i feel like we don't know the full story on the proud boys and oath keepers. >> and what might lie ahead. >> the former president and his allies represent a clear and present danger to democracy. not because of what they did on january 6th. it's because of what they pledged to do in 2024.
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>> a cnn special report "american coup, the january 6th investigation." >> i'm a very textural artist. i love a lot of texture. >> in arizona the republican speaker of the house, rusty bowers, is an artist by trade. but last february bowers was thrown into a real life drama. >> the bill number was 2596. >> more than 100 bills submitted in arizona to tighten access to the ballot box. the measure would have scrapped early voting. all voting would be on election day only. >> 90% of my district votes early. >> and it would have mandated paper ballots. but most egregious to rusty bowers was this. >> with no guidance criteria, the legislature after the election could dismiss the
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election. and i said welcome to fascism. >> hb 2596 elections. >> and so i said i will give this the respect it deserves. >> education. >> so i sent it to 12 committees so we would have a long vetting process. >> military affairs. >> typical is one or two. if it was a controversial bill you might send it to three. if it goes to four committees then you're getting a message. i assigned it to 12 committees. it was theatrical, and i admit it. >> it's not an overstatement to say because bowers stood up for democracy he will not be in his state legislature next year. term limited in the statehouse he ran in the republican primary for a state senate seat. >> i stood up to the radicals and kept my conservative campaign promises. >> my opponent was david farnsworth. >> david farnsworth is going to do the job. >> their positions on major issues nearly identical except
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for one. >> i believe the election was stolen. >> farnsworth bought into trump's election lies. bowers did not. >> arizona voters pick david farnsworth over -- >> i lost big. it is very possible that the bill that i assigned liberally to my committees will be back. the possibility of that getting a governor's signature would just be a disaster. i call it the possibility of going back into the dark ages in arizona. >> the united states is headed into the 2022 mid-term elections with more at stake regarding american democracy perhaps than ever before. from arizona to pennsylvania to georgia and all the so-called swing states the former president donald trump is backing loyalists like david farnsworth who not only support trump's lies about election fraud in 2020, but often have
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expressed a willingness to undo any future results they don't like under the pretense of trumped-up fraud. giving extended details what the committee says was a plot to keep trump as president in 2020. what's the bottom line you want the american people to know from these hearings? >> there are several things but one is there was a very sophisticated multi-part plan overseen by donald trump to attempt to overturn the election. no president in our history has ever done anything even close to that before. >> vice chair liz cheney, one of just two republicans on the committee, has spent the last year bucking her party and helping investigate donald trump's sophisticated multi-part plan. the first piece the committee focused on were the lies. >> mail ballots are a very dangerous thing for this country because they're cheaters.
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>> in the leadp to the election donald trump had been talking about the possibility of widespread voter fraud for months. >> voting by mail is wrought with fraud. people steal them out of mailboxes. >> looking back it's clear he was laying the groundwork for this. >> this is a fraud on the american public. this is an embarrassment to our country. we were getting ready to win this election. frankly, we did win this election. >> trump may have been crying widespread fraud, but he had no proof. what the former president did have proof of, based on his own team's assessment of votes, is that he lost, a fact made clear by the january 6th committee, which exposed to the world so many trump aides despite towing the trump line in public -- >> are you expecting the president to concede? >> maria, that word's not even in our vocabulary right now. >> -- knew trump was going to
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lose rulegitimately and that he did lose legitimately. admissions they were forced to make under oath. >> i was in the oval office and at some point in the conversation the lead data person was brought on, and i remember he delivered to the president pretty blunt terms that he was going to lose. >> trump campaign attorneys followed up on all of the fraud claims, and they quickly concluded that fraud did not take the election from donald trump. voters did. the news was told to trump's chief of staff at the white house, mark meadows, in mid to late november. >> i remember a call with mr. meadows, and i remember sharing with him that we weren't finding anything that would be sufficient to change the results in any of the key states. >> during a meeting several weeks later the president got the same message from his white house counsel, pat cipollone, and another white house lawyer,
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eric hirschman. >> told the group the president included none of those allegations could be substantiated to the point they could be the basis for any litigation challenge to the election. >> it is statistically impossible that the person, me, that led the charge, lost. >> but donald trump continued to refuse to accept defeat. >> the evidence of fraud is monumental and more is coming out. >> audacious claims of widespread fraud became a daily occurrence. >> numerous times we found dlich glitches, and every single time the glitch went 100% to biden and no percent to trump. >> the only thing left is to vote. that could have been mickey mouse. that could have been a dead person. >> standing near giuliani is an attorney named sydney powell, who became the face of one of the most notorious and frankly most deranged lies. that dominion voting machines were flipping votes for trump to
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biden. >> the dominion voting systems were created in venezuela at the director of hugo chavez to make sure he never lost an election. >> after she was sued by dominion whereby powell's attorney eventually conceded that powell lied saying, quote, no reasonable person would conclude her statements were truly statements of fact, unquote. but long before that happened the president's attorney general, bill barr, was investigating all of trump's fraud claims. >> it was getting awkward because obviously he'd lost the election and -- >> barr said he made it clear to trump during a november 23rd meeting that he had lost. >> our role is to investigate fraud and it's not meritorious. it's not panning out. >> he was going to win despite all the fraud. >> but spurred on by the most ardent election liars including many in maga media. >> clearly the president won this election. >> donald trump would not listen to reason or fact.
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>> where is the doj and the fbi in all of this, mr. president? >> missing in action. >> this got under my skin, but i also felt it was time for me to say something, so i setup a lunch with the ap reporter, and i told him that to date we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a different outcome in the election. >> a heated trump-barr meeting followed and barr got another opportunity to debunk the lies. among the claims he focused on were the ones about dominion voting machines. >> with the turn of a dialor a change of a chip you can press the button for trump and the vote goes to biden. >> i told him that the stuff his people were shoveling out to the public was bullshit. i specifically raised the dominion voting machines, i saw absolutely zero basis for the allegations, but they were made in such a sensational way that they obviously were influencing a lot of people. >> before the end of december
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barr had quit. his replacement, acting attorney general jeffrey rosen, who came with a blunt yet low-key acting deputy attorney general named richard donohue. like barr rosen and donohue took seriously and thoroughly investigated each of the fraud claims coming from then president trump. in late december donohue spoke with the president and told him the truth about numerous false claims including one involving dominion machines in northern michigan. >> there you had supposedly a cyber expert group issue a report that said there was a 68% error rate. it was not a 68% error rate. in fact, it was i think a 0.006% error rate. >> he also debunked claims of trump in the state arena in atlanta, georgia. >> i don't walk in to see if people have suitcases and putting them around the table with a black rope around it. >> there were allegations about suit cases with fraudulent
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ballots being smuggled into the facility. >> now they're going to start pulling these ballots out from under this table. >> ballots being run through multiple times. the u.s. attorney looked at it and found none of these allegations were true. >> he then forwarded an e-mail asking the department of justice to look into the possibility that italian satellites were changing votes from trump to biden. >> they sent these new numbers back up through this military satellite, italian military satellite. >> i was skeptical to say the least. we very quickly determined that was not a well-founded allegation, and we told the chief of staff and others as well. >> what's going on out there? >> the nation's top law enforcement officials were investigating and finding nothing substantive. and in the courts the usual venue for the claims of voting misconduct, the president's team lost over and over again.
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>> courts again shutting down more desperate attempts to overturn the election. >> you're not some raging liberal. is that fair? >> totally fair. >> michael luding is a highly respected federal court judge. he did not hear any of the cases but he and his colleagues did analyze more than 60 of them. >> we reviewed each individual claim and decided there was nothing that would have changed the result in a single precinct let alone a single state let alone nationally. ahead -- >> you're asking me to do something that's against my oath, and i'm not going to do that. >> donald trump puts the squeeze on statehouse leaders across the country. >> going to have a big impact on tuesday if you guys don't get this thing straightened out fast. answer that wasright unde. or. his nose.
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we're in my office. this is the speaker's office. >> it's not every day a statehouse politician gets a call from a u.s. president. but that's what happened to arizona speaker republican rusty bowers after the 2020 election. >> came home from church. my wife and i were sitting in the driveway. >> the white house popped up on his screen. >> so i take the call and my wife steps out and goes in the house. i sat there in my little prius and had a chat with the president with bad phone reception and backed out of the house where i get better reception. >> rudy giuliani was on the line, too. and bower says it was giuliani who began making crazy claims about voter fraud in arizona. >> i can't give you the exact numbers -- but i'll throw out numbers but they're kind of of the audacious numbers like 200,000 illegal aliens voted. 6,000 military ballots were stolen and used.
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>> bowers says giuliani wanted him to hold an official arizona house hearing to air these claims publicly. >> and then i said but what's the mole purpose of this? what are you trying to achieve? and he said, well, we've heard there's an arcane law in arizona that if you have sufficient cause that you can throw out the biden electors including trump electors, and i said that's a new one to me. i've never, ever heard of that. and so now you're asking me to do something that's against my oath, and i'm not going to do that. >> but bowers says he told you'll yawny he had good lawyers and would be happy to put the former mayor in touch with them. >> i don't do anything of this magnitude without having strong, legal counsel and proof. and the president says, rudy, you've got the proof. yeah, i've got the proof.
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i said i want the proof. i didn't get it when he said he'd do it. he never called my attorneys. >> but the asks did not stop with giuliani. bowers would later get a call from another trump attorney, john eastman. >> we know there was fraud. >> whom the january 6th committee sees as a key player in this grand plan to undo the legitimate results of the 2020 presidential election. >> the ask was kind of that we would throw out the electors, and i said has it ever been done? he said, no. i said, you want me to take my state, 3.2 million voters, and just throw them out the window because i want to? and that's responsible on my part? i said, okay, thank you. we're not doing that. >> bowers kept his caucus on the side lines, but in the arizona
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senate republicans there yielded to pressure from team trump and voted to conduct an audit of the results in arizona's largest county. >> when they got the cyber ninjas i thought i'll watch, this will be interesting. i don't want to be close to that. >> you might remember the ninjas. the company was run by a trump supporter. they employed ultraviolet lights which could supposedly identify ballots from china. >> they came out that mr. biden won by a larger margin than previously, and mr. trump lost a number of votes. >> bowers and his colleagues in arizona were not the only state officials to feel the heat from trump and/or giuliani. material discovered by the january 6th committee showed it happened over and over across the swing states that biden won. >> mr. speaker, this is rudy giuliani and genet ellis. >> in pennsylvania bowers counterpart brian cutler got the calls. >> hello, mr. speaker.
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this is janet ellis, and i'm here with mayor giuliani. >> hey, brian, it's rudy. i really have something important to call to your attention that i think really changes things. >> the january 6th committee says cutler thought the calls were inappropriate and had his lawyers tell giuliani to stop them. >> i understand you don't want to talk to me now. i just want to bring some facts to your attention. >> and then there was georgia where the republican secretary of state brad raffensperger got an hour long call from president trump. >> brad, what are we going to do? we won the election and it's not fair to take it away from us like this. >> trump probably put more pressure on brad raffenberinging than anyone else. it was immense. >> all i want to do is this. i just want to find 11,780 votes. >> and i think it's the phone call that everyone remembers that was later leaked where he in turn berated brad
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raffensperger. >> they're going around playing you and laughing at you behind your back, brad. >> he praised him. he seemed to try to charm him at times and even indicated that if he did not act that there could be criminal liability for those actions. >> you're not reporting it. that's just -- you know, that's a criminal -- that's a criminal offense. >> and it was not just pressure. there were threats, usually from trump supporters who felt empowered or incited by him. take for instance the two men in this hummer with a qanon decal. prosecutors say they drove the vehicle filled with automatic weapons and ammunition from virginia to the philadelphia convention center in early november 2020, where votes were still being counted. at the time alschmidt was the republican responsible for overseeing the vote count in philadelphia. he received threats aimed at his family. >> tell the truth or your three
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kids will be fatally shot. it included our address. it included our children's names. it included a picture of our home. >> and the republican house speaker in that state had protesters show up at his home. >> there were multiple protests, at least three outside either my district office or my home. my then 15-year-old son was home by himself for the first one. >> in georgia brad raffensperger's wife received messages. >> people started threatening her, those kind of intimidations. >> georgia election worker shane moss testified before the house select committee about threats she received via facebook messenger. >> a lot of threats wishing death upon me, telling me that, you know, i'll be in jail with my mother. >> these threats happened after rudy giuliani spread lies about her and her mother, ruby
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freeman, who was counting votes with moss at state farm arena in atlanta on election night. >> take earlier in the day of ruby freeman and shay freeman moss and one other gentleman quite obviously surreptitiously passing around as if they're vials of heroin or cocaine. it's obvious to anyone who's a criminal investigator or prosecutor they're engaged in surepetitious illegal activity. >> what was your mom actually handing you on that video? >> a ginger mint. this turned my life upside down. i don't want anyone knowing my name. i don't want to go anywhere with my mom because she might yell my name out over the grocery aisle or something. i haven't been anywhere at all. i've gained about 60 pounds. it's affected my life in a major
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way. >> congressman adam kinzinger of illinois, the only republican on the january 6th committee other than liz cheney, says all the threats are part of trump's plan. >> i don't think you can look at the words and actions of donald trump and think that he wanted anything except the explosion of these threats to people. he could stop that in a second if he wanted to, but he liked it. there are a lot of members of congress that i think voted against impeachment because they were scared for their family and for themselves. what does that mean? it means threats of violence worked. up next -- >> they suggested that he use the apparatus of government to seize voting machines. ♪ (customer) save yourself?! money with farmers. (burke) that's not wrong. when you bundle your home and auto policies with farmers, you save yourself up to twenty percent. (customer) that's something.
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pressure from the president of the united states -- >> take a moment to mark your ballots. >> -- on december 14, 2020, all 50 u.s. states formally certified their results as their citizens had voted. >> your resolution is unanimously adopted. >> and that, according to the january 6th committee, is what led to a verifyerous white house meeting with the president considered horrifying action. >> on december 18th three people, one of them trump's security advisor mike flynn, his lawyer sydney powell, and patrick bern, the founder of overstock.com were let into the white house by an aide to peter navarro, another trump advisor. trump saw them, called them into the oval office, and they start arguing the case where everyone else is failing trump and that trump can take aggressive actions to keep himself in power and to try to impact the results of an election that he had already lost. they suggested that he use the
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apparatus of government to seize voting machines. and as this meeting is taking place, another lawyer in the white house, eric kerchman, figures out what's happening, calls in the white house counsel, pat cipollone. on his last day of work joins, rudy giuliani gets a call in, and this goes on for hours. >> how much time did you have alone with the president -- i say alone. you had other people with you, but before the crowd came running? >> probably no more than 10 or 15 minutes. >> was in that -- >> pat cipollone set a new land speed record. >> i opened the door and i walked in, saw general flynn. i saw sydney powell sitting there. i was not happy to see the people in the oval office. i don't think any of these people were providing the president with good advice. >> the team had arrived with a draft executive order that had
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it been signed by donald trump, would have immediately ordered the secretary of defense to seize, collect, retain, and analyze ballot boxes, and it would have created, quote, a special counsel to oversee the operation and institute all criminal and civil proceedings as appropriate. >> this is a draft of the executive order that would have allowed trump to seize voting machines. what was your reaction when you heard about this? >> i think most americans could never imagine those things would happen here. and that order and many of the other things we learned through our hearings have been really stunning to me, because repeatedly i found myself in a situation thinking, my gosh, how could this happen here? and we really thought it couldn't but it just continued to emphasize for all of us that our institutions are fragile. >> the appointment of the special counsel was not
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hypothetical. trump wanted sydney powell, a prominent peddler of election lies, in the spot. >> he asked pat cipollone if he had the authority to name me special counsel, and he said yes. and then he asked him does he have the authority to give me whatever security clearance i needed. and pat cipollone said yes. and then the president said, okay, you know, i'm naming her that and i'm giving her security clearance. and then shortly before we left was when cipollone and/or hershman and whoever the other young man was said you can name her whatever you want to name her and no one's going to pay any attention to it. >> how did you respond -- how did the president respond to that? >> something like you see what i deal with? i deal with this all the time. >> the meeting was extremely heated with cipollone arguing against the special counsel idea and against seizure of voting
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machines. >> can the federal government seize voting machines? it's a terrible idea. that's not how we do things in the united states. there's no legal authority to do that. the three of them were forcefully attacking me, eric, derek, and we were pushing back and we were asking one simple question as a general matter. where is the evidence? >> what response did you get? >> a variety of responses. like what do you mean where's the evidence? you should know. >> there was a discussion of we don't have it but we will have it or whatever. >> she says, well, the judges are corrupt, and i was like every one, every single case you've done in the country,
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every one is corrupt, even the ones we've appointed? and i'm being nice but i was much more harsh to her. >> the meeting very nearly devolved into a physical fight. >> one screamed at me i was a quitter and everything and standing up and standing around and screaming at me. and at a certain point i had it with him so i yelled back. had to come over-and-back down. >> i'm going to categorically describe it as you guys are not tough enough, or maybe i put it another way you're a bunch of -- excuse the expression, but i'm almost certain the word was used. >> if had been me sitting in that chair i would have had him fired that night and escorted out of the building. >> the january 6th committee received text messages sent
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during, and following the meeting to the assistant who testified live before the committee hearing in june describing the meeting as unhinged. she also snapped this photograph of mark meadows escorting rudy giuliani from the white house to make sure he did not get back into the mansion. you tweeted, quote, somehow the committee testimony featured live underplay how crazy that december 18th meeting was. how was it an underplay? >> because donald trump faded into the background as this was all being described. one of the ways in which donald trump has escaped a lot of accountability over time is he gets people fighting with each other, and that's what people focus on. he considered extreme, really unprecedented actions. now, he didn't take them, but he was unwilling to foreclose options until the last possible second no matter how extreme
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and -- and potentially dangerous they were. >> i remember talking to you after that meeting, and you were shaking. >> i was. and it was, frankly -- it took a little bit to process exactly what had happened. but i remember getting a text from a senior republican senate advisor asking me if there was going to be an issue in terms of a peaceful transfer of power after this. and i said, yes, there is a legitimate issue here. and i think that was a real young warning sign. >> it was floated this idea by retired general michael flynn in the oval office that donald trump should seize voting machines and ballot boxes from these states that joe biden won. what was your reaction when you heard that? >> i said to my wife this is beyond all comprehension. i never utter a word like this,
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but that in particular sounded in -- in a banana republic to me. had that happened we would have been in a situation where literally we're in a constitutional crisis because nothing in our constitution gives you the answer. >> at the end of the evening no seizure orders were issued. the president decided to go in a different direction. he would take it in a tweet. >> what he wanted was to show everyone who was telling him he lost the election that people agree with him. >> the tweet and the violence that followed ahead. thinkorswim® by td ameritrade is more than a trading platform.
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december 19, 2020, after a long, loud, disturbing white house meeting about seizing voting machines, president trump sent a tweet that would change history. big protests in d.c. on january 6th, it read. be there. will be wild. >> what he wanted was to show these lawmakers not just in washington but everyone who is telling him he lost the election, he wanted to show them that people agree with him and people backed his lies about the election. >> donald trump was summoning his true believers to washington, d.c. and evidence pieced together by the january 6th committee shows they heard that call and began planning immediately. >> women for america first to pro-trump organizing group had
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previously applied for a rally permit for january 22nd and 23rd in washington, d.c., but hours after the tweet they moved their permit to january 6th. >> the next day a trump supporter and leader of the group, stop the steal, created a website to share and promote logistics about the rally. >> it included event times, places, speakers, and details on transportation to washington, d.c. >> far right personalities such as conspiracy theorists alex jones almost immediately began spreading the word on their platforms. >> one of the most historic events in american history has just taken place. president trump wants the american people to march on washington, d.c. on january 6, 2021. the time for games is over. the time for action is now. >> as word spread it became clear the trump faithful who
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planned to attend were also planning for the possibility of violence. >> we know the rules of engagement. if you have enough people you can push down any kind of a fence or a wall. >> you better understand something, son. you better understand something. red wave -- there's going to be a red wedding going down january 6th. >> the term red wedding means january 6th. >> look down the street. there are going to be a million plus geeked up armed americans. >> some of trump's twitter followers did consider his tweets to be orders. that's according to a former twitter employee whose identity was hidden while testifying to the committee. >> it felt as if a mob was being organized, and they were gathering together their weaponry and their logic and
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their reasoning behind why they were prepared to fight. >> members of the committee say they were finding similar types of chatter across social media platforms. >> quote, calling all patriots, be in washington, d.c. january 6th. this wasn't organized by any group. djt has invited us, and it's going to be wild. some of the online rhetoric turned openly homicidal and white nationalist such as, "why don't we just kill them, every last democrat down to the last man, woman and child." and "it's time for the day of the rope. white revolution is the only solution." >> the donald dot win, an openly racist and anti-semitic site became a way for racists to share their ideas. >> on that site many shared threats. a commenter replied suggesting
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zip ties instead. one post encouraged others to come with body armor, knuckles, shields, bats, pepper spray, whatever it takes. all of those were used on the 6th. "the the post concluded join your local chapter as well. >> the far right militia was active at this time preparing for january 6th. >> proud boys launched an encrypted chat called the ministry of self-defense. the committee obtained hundreds of these messages which show strategic and tactical planning about january 6th including maps of washington, d.c. that pinpoint the location of police. >> even more alarming some of the people making plans in the proud boys and in the oath keepers, another right-wing militia, had direct ties to people close to donald trump. >> one such ally was lieutenant
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general michael flynn, trump's former national security advisor. this photo from december 12th shows flynn and patrick burn, another trump ally indicted by trump oath keeper -- another shows steward rhodes in the picture as well. >> both minuta and rhodes have been charged with seditious conspiracy, conspiring to use force against the federal government. they've pleaded not guilty. ten other oath keepers and five proud boys have also been charged with seditious conspiracy. three oath keepers have pleaded guilty. according to members of it committee long time trump ally roger stone also had ties to these groups. >> in the same time frame stone communicated with both the proud boys and the oath keepers regularly. the committee obtained encrypted content from a group chat called friends of stone, fos, which
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included stone, rhodes, tario, and ali alexander. >> tario is leader of the proud boys. >> the chat focused on events december 2020 as well as jan 6th. on january 6th stone was guarded by two oath keepers who have since been criminally indicted for seditious conspiracy. one of them later pleaded guilty and according to the department of justice admitted the oath keepers were ready to use, quote, lethal force if necessary against anyone who tried to remove president trump from the white house including the national guard. >> members of the committee say roger stone's connection to the proud boys goes back years and showed him taking the oath required for the first level of initiation into the group. there are some missing pieces in
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the public record such as what, if anything, did donald trump or anyone inside the white house know about the organizing by the far right militias? >> the night before january 6th president trump instructed his chief of staff, mark meadows, to contact both roger stone and michael flynn regarding what would play out the called mr. stone on the 5th? >> i'm under the impression that mr. meadows did complete both the call to mr. stone and john the evening of the 5th. >> do you know what they talked able that evening, ms. hutchinson? >> i'm not sure. >> i feel like we don't know the full story on the proud boys and oath keepers. >> i think the committee is trying to get to the bottom of what white house officials coordinated with or spoken to proud boys so what do those
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relationships look like? w what were the lines of communications and why were they talking? >> there is stuff we know. we put some out. there is more depth within the report or maybe in the next hearings and i think what is important is he was going through the process of selling that the election was stolen and then convincing folks that look, if you believe that an election was stolen from you, violence is the only answer quite honestly. that's kind of the american tradition. if you truly believe that the constitution is being disobeyed, every american would be on the capitol. up next, donald trump puts the squeeze on justice. >> him telling us we should say publicly it was corrupt, that concerned me. but asthma has taken enough. so i go triple... with trelegy. with 3 medicines in 1 inhaler,... it's the only once-daily treatment for adults that takes triple action against asthma symptoms.
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you're obviously well aware of what donald trump was doing in terms of his election fraud claims. did you have any apprehension of becoming deputy attorney general? >> no, i didn't have concerns about that. i had a great deal of confidence in the team. i wanted to be part of the team. you want to be there when it matters. >> you can't ever accept when they steal and rig and rob. can't accept. >> after attorney general bill barr resigned, richard donohue
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was appoint to the number two position in the department of justice. the deputy to jeffrey rosen, the new acting attorney general. the two men inherited a department under constant and public attack by the sitting president of the united states. fighting to hold on to an election. he falsely claimed had been stolen. >> trump thought the justice department was an arm of his presidency and a way for him to tell them what to do and they should do his bidding and what he wanted. >> as the new targets of trump rosen and donohue fielded near daily complaints from donald trump. >> between december 23rd and january 3rd, the president either called me or met with me virtually ever day. the common element of all of this was the president expressing his dissatisfaction that the justice department in his view had not done enough to investigate election fraud. >> but they were investigating.
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the department of justice had been debunking trump's wild election fraud lies one by one. but president trump chose to not listen. on a december 27th phone call with rosen and donohue, president trump said the department had an obligation to quote tell people that this was an illegal corrupt election despite no evidence of wide spread fraud. trump also pressed them to publicly quote just say the election was corrupt and leave the rest to me and the republican congressman. >> there was an exact quote from the president. it indicated that he had some political avenue he wanted to pursue with the congress, but by him telling us that we should say publicly it was corrupt, that concerned me. >> what he intended was for the department of justice to say we have indications there was corruption because from there you can take that seed of doubt and donald trump and republican members of congress can water it.
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they can grow that doubt and then through there, you could do things like get people to vote against certification on january 6th. >> as long as rosen and donohue were in charge, they told the president they would not publicly back his false election fraud claims. so trump had to find someone who would help him do what he wanted to steal the election. >> jeff clark's name had come up on december 27th on a phone call. he bought it up and said people are telling me to change the leadership. people are telling me you two are not doing your job. i hear jeff clark is great. people tell me he can get in there and do something and it was surprising to me. >> surprising because the president would have no reason to even know who jeffrey clark was. >> even within the department, you know, very few people had really heard of jeffrey clark. >> but donald trump had. unbeknownst to rosen and donohue, scott perry had brought clark to the oval office to meet with president trump on december
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22nd. the day after perry had been amongst republican members of congress who joined trump at the white house to discuss overturning the 2020 election. trump also mentioned jeff clark on a separate call with rosen. >> he made what i regarded as a peculiar reference. i don't remember the exact quote but something about did i know jeff clark or did i know who he was or something like that? i was qwondering how does the president even know mr. clark? >> rosen confronted clark who admitted he had broken the long-standing policy governing communication between the justice department and the white house. white house lawyers pat cipollone intervened and warned clark not to communicate with the white house. clark agreed. but just two days later escalated the situation with an email that set off a series of events that would rock the
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justice department. >> we came in on monday, december 28th, hectic day as they all were and in the afternoon got the email which i had to sit down and read more than once to make sure i understood what he was proposing. >> what was he proposing? >> he was proposing sending out a letter signed by the three of us, the acting attorney general, myself and jeff clark to georgia but also the other states, the other swing states, as well, suggesting essentially that they set aside the electors assigned to support president elect biden and hold hearings and basically have the state legislatures pick a new slate of electors. >> did a letter claim the u.s. department of justice's investigations has quote identified significant concerns that may have impacted the outcome of the election in multiple states including the state of georgia unquote. was that true? >> no. >> while the letter was sent solely by jeff clark, it was
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written with the help of a new justice department employee named ken who according to the committee was also working with john eastman, the architect of the multi step plan to overturn the election. the letter mirrored some of eastman's unconstitutional theories. >> would create chaos in the states. that would be disastrous for our country and constitution. >> wasn't that the point of the letter to create the cast? >> i think so, yes. >> disturbed by the letter, donohue wrote quote, this would be a grave step for the department to take and it could have tremendous constitutional, political and social ramifications for the country. >> i had to make it clear to him there was no world in which i and certainly the a.g. were going to sign a letter like that. >> rosen and donohue met with clark later that evening. >> i do remember the very end saying to him, what you are proposing is nothing less than
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having the united states justice department meddle in the outcome of an american presidential election. >> but again, jeffrey clark ignored the direction of justice department leadership. he continued to claim falsely that there was wide spread election fraud. he pushed to send out the letter again and on january 3rd, he told rosen president trump had offered him the role of attorney general and he had accepted. >> that led to a series of discussions and meetings that day. at this point, it had gone so far that we had to bring the other leaders in and explain to them so they were prepared in case it happened but also to get their take on what they would do if that did happen. >> what did they say they would do? >> they uniformly said they would resign. >> white house call logs show by 4:19 p.m. that day, the white house had already begun referring to clark as the acting attorney general. that evening, rosen and donohue
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went to the white house to argue against trump installing clark as attorney general. the three-hour meeting took place in the oval office and by all accounts, joined the long list of wild white house meetings. >> the president turned to me and he said well, one thing we know is you rosen, you aren't going to do anything. you don't even agree with the claims of election fraud and this other guy, at least might do something. >> it was basically jeff clark advocating for the leadership change and everyone else advocating against it. it was a very blunt contentious conversation. hershman and i were the street fighters of the meeting. >> when he finished discussing what he planned to do, i said good f-ing, excuse me, a-hole. congratulations you actually admitted the first step would be committing a rule. you're clearly the right
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candidate for this job. >> white house counsel pat s cipollone was against the plan, as well. >> he referred to the letter jeff clark wrote as a murder suicide pact that no one should have anything to do with it. i basically made the point to the president jeff clark was not qualified to be the attorney general. he's promising you he'll conduct, he's very complex nationwide investigations in record time and this is coming from a guy that's never conducted a real investigation. mr. clark responded by saying he's been involved in very significance environmental law briefing before various courts and that reminded me that yes, in fact, you're primarily an environmental lawyer, go back to your office and call you when there is an oil spill. >> donohue said upon clark's appointment, justice department leaders would resign on mass. >> the president turned to me and said steve, you wouldn't leave, would you? i said mr. president, i've been with you through four attorneys general including two acts
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attorney general, but i couldn't be part of this. >> finally, persuaded, trump decided against the idea. when clark was subpoenaed by the january 6th committee earlier this year, he refused to answer questions pleading the fifth more than 125 times. >> did you discuss this draft letter to georgia officials with the president of the united states? >> fifth. coming up, inside the plot to pressure the vice president. >> he would have immediately plunged the country into paralyzing ing constitutional crisis. unlock new insights and efficiency-right now. allow monitoring of productivity at remote job sites, with next-generation bandwidth. enable ai cameras that spot factory issues in real time, using next-generation speed. and deliver ultra-capacity 5g coverage that's years ahead of the competition. t-mobile for business has 5g that's ready right now.
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on december 14th, 2020. >> unanimously cast 16 votes for joseph r. biden. [ applause ] >> when the electors in each state gathered. >> all 16 electors cast their ballots for joseph r. biden. >> so did fraud leulent electorn six swing states that biden won such as arizona. >> donald j. trump of the state of florida. >> contested states are going to vote and we're going to send those results up to congress. >> this desperate scheme to over throw the election results had been conceived weeks earlier. >> who do you remember being involved in those early discussions around the thanksgiving time regarding having alternate electors heat? >> mr. giuliani, several of mr. good
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giuliani's associates, mr. meadows. >> one of the biggest attempts was law professor and trump attorney john eastman. >> the entire executive branch is headed by one guy. >> trump saw him on fox news and shortly after that, he was in the oval office. >> fraud leulent electors was s one which he outlined and justified false claims with illegal actions with state and local election officials. step two in his plan would have to be executed by vice president mike pence on january 6th while presiding over the opening and counting of electoral ballots. >> what you can do is you can say due to these disputes in these seven states, we're going to send this back to the states and the states would then be able to help donald trump win the election. >> it was a lie. in fact, on december 19th, 2020 four days before dr. eastman
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sent this memo, dr. eastman admitted fake electors had no legal weight referring to the fake electors as quote dead on arrival in congress. end quote. >> trump campaign aides and outside lawyers shared their concerns about the scheme in emails reported on by "the new york times" maggie haberman and luke broadwater. did they think what they were doing was legal? >> in one email a lawyer describes them as fake electors and said what we would be doing is sending fake electors, fake in quotes to go cast ballots in another email there was a discussion about fear from some officials. this would be seen as quote unquote treason. >> what might have happened had pence tried to go through with this idea that he could reject electoral votes and send them
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back to the states biden won such as arizona, pennsylvania, wisconsin, georgia? >> he would have immediately plunged the country into what i characterized would be a revolution within a paralyzing constitutional crisis. >> there is just no way that the framers of the constitution who divided power and authority, who separated it out, who had broken away from george iii and declared him to be a tyrant, there was no way they would have put in the hands of one person the authority to determine who is going to be president of the united states. >> but president trump now saw vice president pence as the man who could keep him in the white house for four more years. >> on december 23rd, president trump retweeted a memo from an individual named ivan entitled
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operate pence card. that called on the vice president to refuse the electoral college votes to declare the winner. >> so now he's going public. he's trying to get public pressure on mike pence. >> the january 6th committee's interviews with white house attorneys made it clear pat s cipollone and many others were appalled. >> what was communicated to me was that pat cipollone thought the idea was not nutty and had at one point confronted eastman basically with the same sentiment. >> what were your prior interactions with eastman? >> he described the ambiguity and he was walking through it at that time and i said hold on a
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second, i want to understand what you're saying. you're saying you believe the vice president acting as president of the senate can be the sole decision maker as to under your theory, who becomes the next president of the united states? and he said yes. i said are you out of your f-ing mind? >> the vice president decided he could not buy into eastman's theories. >> was it your impression that the vice president had directly conveyed his position on these issues to the president? >> many times. >> and had been consistent in conveying his position to the president? >> very consistent. >> you basically cannot over state the pressure that trump was putting on pence in the leadup to january 6th. >> i hope that our great vice president, our great vice president comes through for us. he's a great guy. of course, if he doesn't come through, i won't like him quite
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as much. >> that night, pence's outside lawyer richard cohen phoned retired judge michael a republican for help and advice. >> he said judge, do you know john eastman? i said yes. john was a clerk of mine about 20, 25 years ago and he said, well, john is advising the president and vice president that the vice president does not have to accept the electoral college votes as they have been cast. i said well, richard, you can tell the vice president that i said he has no such authority whatsoever. >> why did you take to twitter? >> the next morning, richard calls and he said look, we have to get your voice out to the country immediately within the next hour. >> judge ludwig with the help of his son sent his first ever twitter thread. >> my son sent me twitter instructions on how to tweet a
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thread of individual tweets that were under 140 characters -- i have no earthly idea what any of this was about. i told my son send it to me now or i'll cut ya out of the will. >> he read me some of that thread. >> the only responsibility and power of the vice president under the constitution is to faithfully count the electoral college votes as they have been cast. the constitution does not empower the vice president to alter in any way the votes that have been cast either by rejecting certain of them or otherwise. >> that twitter thread spread and garnered attention around the world. but with just one day before congress was set to certify biden's electoral college victory, trump continued to apply maximum pressure. in this tweet, quote, the vice president has the power to
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reject fraudulently chosen electors and when they met at the white house on january 5th. >> in the book "p"par al" if the people say you have the power, wouldn't you want to? the vice president says quote i wouldn't want any one person to do this. i wouldn't be your friend anymore if you don't do this. >> trump would not relent. at 1:00 a.m. on january 6th. he said if vice president mike pence comes through we will win the presidency. mike can send it back and the morning phone calls in which the president bullied and belittled the vice president for refusing to go along with this potential coup. >> i don't remember if he said you are a wimp, wimp is the word i remember. >> it's also been reported that
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the president said to the vice president that something to the effect of you don't have the courage to make a hard decision. >> worse. i don't remember exactly but something like that. yeah. >> soon after the call ended, trump would repeat his dangerous lies and put a target on vice president pence. >> i hope mike is going to do the right thing. i hope so. and mike pence is going to have to come through for us. >> as that speech neared the end, inside the capitol. >> the senate and house of representatives are meeting in joint session to verify the certificates and count the votes of the electors. >> but outside, headed their way. >> i got three men walking down the streetcarrcarrying ar-15s. ♪ it's on. it's on. it's on. [laughter] ♪ ♪ i was gonna say, will you marry me?
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there are thousands of people here already. this line wraps around washington and the president is scheduled to speak. >> as mr. giuliani and i were walking to our vehicles this evening, he looked at me and said something to the effect of cass are you excited for the 6th? we're going to the capitol. it going to be great. the president will be there. he's going to look powerful. >> on january 3rd, the capitol police issued a special event assessment. congress itself is the target on the 6th. >> now we're on as i say the point of attack. >> listen to what mr. bannon said that day after the first call he had with the president. >> all hell is going to break loose tomorrow. all i can say is strap in. >> they thought they could steal this election. >> then he and donald trump talk again. we don't know what the contents of those calls were because of course, donald trump has not provided that information and
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steve bannon has not provided that information. >> fight for america! >> the night of january 5th, you were among those summoned to the oval office. >> yeah, i was brought into the oval office that evening and the entire press team was assembled in there. >> the gates opened a few minutes ago. >> the president had the door to the rose garden open and you could hear the crowd on the ellipse assembled and tell he was feeding off that energy and he was really excited for the next day. >> the president was making notes talking then about we should go up to the capitol, what's the best route to go to the capitol? >> the january 6th presentation and documentation showed he had no intention of joining the madge to the capitol. >> did the president tell you this, he wanted to speak at the
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capitol. >> correct, yes. >> stop the steal! stop the steal! >> we have the power in numbers. we came here to protect our republic. >> fight for trump! >> the morning of january 6th. >> usa! >> you will listen to us! >> usa! >> supporters began gathering for the rally. >> biden did not win this election. >> what do you think happened? >> fraud. it not made up. >> meanwhile, the president's insistence on joining their march to the capitol. >> we're taking this country back. >> had white house lawyers such as pat cipollone very worried. >> mr. cipollone said something to the effect of please make sure we don't go up to the capitol cassidy. keep in touch with me. we'll get charged with every crime imaginable if we make that
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move happen. >> but nobody could change trump's mind and as, family and aides arrived at the rally, his chief of staff mark meadows was keeping the president's hopes alive. >> prior to pl mr. trump takinge stage that morning, he was under the impression it was still possible. >> at the rally the president had a more immediate familiar concern, crowd size. >> when we were in the off stage area tent behind the stage, he was very concerned about the shot. >> usa! usa! >> for the pictures that were shared, he wanted to make sure that the rally space was full. so he's being told it's not that people are waiting to get through these mags, through these metal detectors, people don't want to go through them because they have weapons with
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them. >> during the hearings, the select committee showed a secret service report that quote, some members of the crowd are wearing ballistic helmets, body armor and carrying radio equipment and military grade backpacks. >> let's listen. >> the committee also played police radio transmissions from that day. >> an individual was entering. he's got blue jeans, a blue jean jacket and underneath the blue jean jackets, he has an ar-15 with a group of individuals, about five to eight other individuals, two of the individuals in that group, they had glock style pistols in their waistband. >> three men walking down theca >> yet, trump want ted the meda detectors removed. >> we were in the off stage
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tent, i was in the vicinity of a conversation i over heard the president say i don't care they have weapons. they're not here to hurt me. take the f-ing mags away. let the people in. take the f-ing mags away. >> the 45th president of the united states of america. [ cheers ] >> donald j. trump. [ cheers ] >> let's reflect on that for a moment. president trump was aware that a number of the individuals in the crowd had weapons and were wearing body armor and here is what president trump instructed the crowd to do. >> we're going to walk down and i'll be there with you, we're going to walk down anyone you want, but i think right here, we're going to walk down to the capitol -- [ cheers ] -- to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard. >> usa!
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usa! >> how would you chara characte donald trump's speech? >> inciting. he said peacefully and patriotically but telling people to go up there and it's hard to see that was fomenting in telling people he had been harmed and they should be angry on his behalf. >> you'll never take back the country with weakness. you have to show strength and you have to be strong. >> trump's national securitiy advisors believe the president was going to join the procession. >> mogul, the president, was quote going to the capitol and quote they're finding the best route now. >> the chat log continues. military aid has confirmed he wants to walk. they are begging him to reconsider. current route will be 15th to f, f to 6th, 6th to penn, penn to
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the capitol. so this is happening. >> there is millions of us here. >> what was he going to do up there? >> i think just lead his people. lead his base. be with his base. i don't think this was something that he had thought out too well other than he was acting like somebody who didn't think he had anything to lose. >> after more than an hour on stage, the president wrapped up his speech this way. >> we fight like hell and if you don't fieght like hell you're nt going to have a country anymore so let's walk down pennsylvania avenue. i want to thank you-all. god bless you and god bless america. >> when he got off the stage. >> let's go! and everybody was making the movement back to the motorcade, i had over heard mr. meadows say to him that he was still working on getting an off the record movement to the capitol. >> what happened next as trump and secret service agent robert
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bobby ingle got into the presidential limousine known as the beast was relaid to hutchinson by trump's deputy chief of staff tony. >> when i returned to the white house, tony proceeded to tell me that once the president had gotten into the vehicle with bobby, he thought that they were going up to the cap to and when bobby relaid to him we're not, we don't have the assets to do it, it's not secure, we're going back to the west wing. the president had very strong, very angry response to that. tony described him as being irate. the president said something to the effect of i'm the f-ing president, take me up to the capitol now. to which bobby responded, sir, we have to go back to the west wing. the president reached up towards the front of the vehicle to grab at the steering wheel. mr. ingle grabbed his arm said
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sir, you need to take your hand off the steering wheel. we're going back to the west wing. we're not going to the capitol. >> so shocking story. we've now heard from at least the washington d.c. detective something very similar. >> trump would return to the white house. and watch his supporters heed his call to fight like hell. >> what the [ bleep ]? let's go. e freestyle libre 2 sy. with a painless, one-second scan i know my glucose numbers without fingersticks. now i'm managing my diabetes better and i've lowered my a1c from 8.2 to 6.7. take the mystery out of managing your diabetes and lower your a1c. now you know. try it for free at freestylelibre.us
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the morning of january 6th. what were your expectations for the day? >> i think i woke up thinking it would be a normal day. i thought he would go out there, give a speech and that that would be it. >> sarah matthews is donald trump's former deputy white house press secretary and was in the white house on january 6th. >> it was kind of quiet to be honest in the west wing that
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morning at least. >> that quiet would not last long. after the speeches at the ellipse, the president returned to the white house and the rioters made their way to the capitol. >> they broke through. it's on. >> already aware of the increasing violence, trump went into the private dining room just off the oval office at 1:25 p.m. and remained there until 4:00 p.m. >> when donald trump is upset what he's seeing, he reacts. he was not reacting here. >> for more than three hours, the president of the united states refused to call off the violent rioters who stormed the u.s. capitol. >> he was watching television and admiring what he saw. you know, was happy the s certification was delayed. there was efforts to try to get him to issue a statement.
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these didn't work. he didn't make a single phone call to any member of his government. >> at 1:49 p.m.. >> declaring it a riot. >> when d.c. police officially declared this a riot, trump tweeted out a link to his speech on the ellipse, the very one that helped insight the riot realizing the severity of the situation, white house counsel pat cipollone rushed to mark meadows, the president's chief of staff. >> i remember pat saying to him something to the effect of the r rioters have gotten to the capitol mark. we need to go see the president now. mark looked up and said he doesn't want to do anything, pat. >> it's over! you better run, cops. >> right as the violence surged, trump tweeted mike pence didn't have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our country and constitution. >> it was the last thing that
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was really needed in that moment. i pretty much painted a target on the vice president's back by tweeting that out. >> i remember pat saying something like mark we need to do something more. they're literally calling for the vice president to be f-ing hung and mark responded something to the effect of you heard him, pat, he thinks mike deserves it. >> working in communications for president trump, i was very aware of just the impact that his words have on his supporters. that tweet suggested to them that what they were doing at the capitol was okay and that they were justified in their violence and that it was vice president pence who was allowing an election to be stolen. >> inside the capitol, the vice president was rushed from the
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senate floor. secret service held pence along with his family and aides in his senate office as they worked to clear a path to safety. >> if we lose any more time, we may have -- may lose the ability to leave. >> a white house anonymous person explained how dire the situation was for pence and secret service detail. >> members of the detail at this time were starting to fear for their lives. we were running out of options and getting nervous. it sounds like we came close to either service having to use legall lethal options or worse. >> when the secret service made the call to move the vice president again, rioters came within 40 feet of him. as he was held in an undisclosed location, president trump addressed the rioters. >> it was pence who was on the
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phone with these lawmakers, pence was on the phone with people in the pentagon about what was happening with the national guard. >> at 2:38 p.m. trump tweeted support our law enforcement. they're truly on the side of our country. stay peaceful. by this point, rioters were in both chambers. >> this is our house. >> and the capitol rotunda was filled with tear gas. >> at the end of the tweet he used the phrase stay peaceful. kay kayleigh mcenany said he didn't want to tweet that and it took a lot of convincing on their part. that was extremely alarming to me. >> the rioters were getting trump's message in realtime. as heard on walkie-talkie communications between rioters. >> trump just tweeted please
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support our capitol police. they are on our side. do not harm them. >> you didn't say not to do anything to the congressman. [ laughter ] >> i think what the committee showed about trump's tweets is that they do take them literally. his messages were received by the people who were there at the capitol. very loudly. >> at any moment during the siege on the capitol, the president could have addressed the country live from the white house. >> there is a camera on in the white house briefing room at all times. he could have walked over there, could have been on camera almost instantaneously and blasted out a message to the american people. he had every opportunity and he chose to not do that. >> when the president finally relented and released a video telling the rioters to go home, it was 4:17 p.m. three hours and seven minutes
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since the riot began. >> it became very clear that the feds basically had taken the capitol back over. they were not going to succeed in stopping the counting and only then did he come out with that statement. >> we had an election that was stolen from us. it was a landslide election. and everyone knows it. >> seeing him on camera start the video by talking about a stolen election, i immediately knew that he wasn't going to meet the moment and say what was needed in that time. >> so go home. we love you. you're very special. >> yet again, many rioters took the president's words as instructions. >> i'm here delivering the president's message. >> working in communications for him, i knew that i would be tasked with defending that and we had just witnessed all this violence at the capitol and
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these folks attacking police officers. chanting horrible things and i knew i koucouldn't defend that because it was indefensible. i resigned that evening. >> the riot with blood and broken glass littered the halls of congress, according to january 6th committee, there were those still trying to overturn the election. that evening rudy giuliani called a number of republican senators and urged them to continue to try and delay the certification. >> i'm calling you because i want to discuss with you how they're trying to rush this hearing. >> the next day john eastman called eric herb shman to discu an appeal in georgia. >> i said to him are you out of your f-ing mind? i'll give you your best free legal advice you'll get in your life. get a great f-ing criminal defense lawyer. you're going to need it and i hung up on him. >> and the president released a
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second video condemning the violence more forcefully on january 7th. >> like all americans, i am outraged by the violence, lawlessness and mayhem. >> according to white house aid cassidy hutchinson, it was his threat of the country invoking the amendment that convinced him to make the video. talk of removing him from office was gaining traction. >> think about what might happen in the final 15 days of your presidency if we don't do this? there is talks about invoking the 25th amendment. you need this as cover. >> even then, he still refused to admit the election was over. >> this election is now over. congress has certified the results. i don't want to say the election is over. i just want to say congress has certified the results without saying the election is over, okay? >> that hvideo showed you that even after every single constitutional process had been
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in the office during the attack on january 6 that there was a chance it would succeed. >> what do you want americans to take away from the hearings that you've held so far? >> i want the american people to look at these hearings and understand how close we came that day to losing that self-governance. freedom isn't free. you have to defend this. and not just overseas but sometimes here at home. [ crowd chanting "usa" ] >> do you miss me yet? >> in the aftermath of january 6th and his election loss -- >> anthony gonzalez. that's another beauty. >> -- donald trump has made it his mission to root out everyone in the republican party who has opposed him. >> john cat co. david validio. >> reporter: of the ten republicans in the house of representatives who voted to impeach him only two remain. >> get rid of them all. >> they claim that -- >> the others have either declined to run for re-election such as adam kinzinger or lost their re-election battle such as
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liz cheney. >> i will do whatever it takes -- >> this mission that you've taken on has cost you your job. do you have any regrets? >> our obligation, my obligation very much is above politics. i can't imagine having done anything differently at any stage of this process since january 6th. it saddens me that so many of my republican colleagues have not met the moment. >> kinzinger and cheney are the only two republicans on the house select committee to investigate the attack on january 6th. they have become pariahs in a party where they were once seen as its future. >> we cannot survive as a party existing on the personality of one man. >> the select committee to investigate the january 6th attack had a herculean task set before it. its members and staff have conducted more than 1,000 interviews, filmed hundreds of
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taped depositions, and collected more than 140,000 documents. while congress cannot bring charges against the president, the committee can issue a criminal referral to the department of justice. >> this baton is passed from us to the department of justice to say are you going to defend the constitution and if there is laws that have been broken, and i certainly think there have been. >> i think clearly what we've laid out indicates that the former president of the united states was involved in efforts that were not only unconstitutional but also violated the law. >> the committee has indicated it believes donald trump potentially committed obstruction of an official proceeding of congress and conspiracy to defraud the united states, amongst other potential crimes. the conspiracy charge may be particularly difficult to prove. >> you have to have criminal intent. here you have the problem of proving what was in the president's mind. i've heard people say, well, he
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was willfully blind. should he have known? yes. but if he did not i don't know that that's a crime. >> not everyone shares that view. >> willful ignorance of fact or law by the president of the united states would not be either a legal defense or a political defense to the president. that's about as clear as a former judge could say it. >> ultimately the department of justice will decide whether to bring any charges and whom will be charged. just this week the justice department issued another sweeping set of subpoenas to more than 30 people in the former president's orbit. and there are multiple federal grand juries handling the investigation. >> we know the justice department has been investigating jeffrey clark. we also know john eastman is someone who's been touched by this investigation. >> i'd like to see the warrant before you take my property. >> both jeffrey clark and john eastman have had their phones seized by federal investigators.
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clark dismissed the investigation as politically motivated, and eastman fought the doj's search warrant in court. but there are state-level investigations as well. rudy giuliani has been informed he's a target in a georgia investigation. >> we will not talk about this until it's over. >> and appeared before a grand jury in august. at the moment perhaps the most perilous investigation for donald trump has nothing to do with the attack on the capitol. >> former president donald trump's mar-a-lago home in florida has been searched by the fbi. >> the investigation that at the moment seems most directly threatening to donald trump is the one into his handling of classified documents and taking documents to mar-a-lago with him when he left office. >> the government has recovered more than 320 classified documents from trump's home in florida. the redacted search warrant identified three federal crimes that the department of justice lists as the foundation of its investigation. obstruction of justice, criminal
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handling of government records, and violations of the espionage act. >> good afternoon. >> reporter: the committee, laser focused on their own investigation, was originally scheduled to complete its hearings this summer, but its members say there is still much more to share. >> we will be focusing on presenting additional evidence. so you'll see additional witness testimony. you'll see an additional focus on the former president's intent at each step of the way. >> how much these hearings have impacted the country's view of trump remains unclear. >> i think the january 6th hearings actually presented a pretty concise case, and i do think that it got through to voters, and i think it was partly because it was trump's own appointees, republican appointees who were the ones they used to testify against him. whether that lingers in voters' minds i think is a real open question. >> i don't think that they've wounded him in a sense of they've changed a lot of minds. his supporters either don't care or still believe what he says,
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which is that the election was stolen and biden is not legitimately elected president. >> of the ten republicans who voted to impeach donald trump based on the january 6th attack on the capitol, eight of them are either retiring or have been defeated in primaries. what does that say to you? >> that donald trump and his supporters are a clear and present danger to american democracy. >> he's already moving mountains and putting things in motion to be able to oppose a future election result that doesn't go his way. whether it's promoting conspiracy theorists and advocating for them and campaigning for them as secretaries of state or backing governors of key swing states who are going to support his election lies. he's putting all these things in motion, and we should be watching it and knowing that it's for future plans that he has. >> a lot of the people we've interviewed have expressed concerns not just about what happened but what will happen. in fact, we see a whole bunch of election liars running for office. are you worried? >> i'm very worried.
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the responsibility that we all have to make sure we defend our republic and that we defend our institutions has to be above pol politics. there are people running so that they are in a position to be able to certify the results only for donald trump. that's obviously fundamentally a threat to the survival of the republic, and i think those people have all got to be defeated. >> you've been shouting from the rooftops this is not just about 2020. you're worried about 2024. you're worried about future elections. >> i am. and right now the former president and his allies and supporters including in congress and including in the states represent a clear and present danger to american democracy. that's not because of what they did on january 6th. it's because of what they pledge to do in 2024. >> do you think that republicans are hearing what you're saying? >> i hope they are.
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there's no evidence that they've heard anything to date. >> our democracy in the united states relies upon good people in positions of power to do the lawful and right thing. from the president all the way down to local officials. we're having these discussions because there were enough people, enough republicans who did the right thing in 2020. perhaps next time there won't be. many of the republicans on the ballots for the 2022 midterm elections are supporters of trump's election lies, who have said outright they reject the results of the last presidential election. and immediately informing the violence here on january 6th at the capitol 2/3 of the house republican conference, 2/3 voted to not count the electoral votes from pennsylvania based on those same lies. if january 6th has taught us anything, it's that nothing is guaranteed. this is the american experiment, not the american proven theorem.
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