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here's how events will unfold this morning here in london. the queen's coffin will leave westminster hall carried on a state gun carriage, the same one used in queen elizabeth's father george vi's funeral. she'll be taken to westminster abbey where a funeral service will be held and attened by
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2,000 people including world leaders and other dignitaries. and after that service the procession will leave westminster abbey winding its way through london, passing downing street, going up the mile to buckingham palace and wellington arch.
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cnn's scott mcclain joins us now here in london, and scott, for the past four days you have been amongst what has been hundreds of thousands of people queuing in what's become known as the line of duty. over hundreds of hours, that line has now finished. westminster hall is closed, and you are outside the palace of westminster. what are you seeing, and what can we expect? >> reporter: hey, becky, yeah. that's right. so i'm amongst the crowd here. and after filing past i actually managed to speak to the very last person in that queue that
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stretched on for miles and miles, for hours and hours. and here's what she told me. how's it feel to be the very last person to have filed past the queen's coffin in. >> well, i've actually been through i i don't want anyone else to miss it and i thought i want to go around again but didn't want to stop anybody else from going through so i was at the end of the queue. >> you've been past already? >> yes. >> how long did you are to wait in if queue for? >> it was 8 1/2 hours. >> and you thought let's do this again? why? >> because it was just so quick, and given that hopefully -- i was hoping i'd get the opportunity to go around again, but obviously i didn't want someone else who hadn't been in to miss it, and i thought i wanted to do it again.
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>> reporter: yeah, and we spoke to her afterwards as well and she seemed quite moved by the experience as well as the other woman she was with whom she met in the line. it was quite emotional. the people waiting here, becky, lining the road they're 6, 8, 9 people deep depending which spot you're at, they're waiting for the queen's coffin to get any glimpse of the hearse as it proceeds to westminster abbey and proceeds to wellington arch later on. i want to speak to one person quickly that i met here earlier. this is edith macaulay. she was awarded an mbe by the queen i think about a decade ago. you met in 2012. so you've met her now on two occasions and i wonder what that experience was like. >> it was absolutely wonderful. i was humbled. it was a great day for me. i think it was the best day in my life, and the queen was very kind, asking a few questions.
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and she thanked me for all the work i've done over the years. >> i spotted you in the crowd because you're the best dressed person here by a country mile, and i wonder why it's so important for you to beer. >> it's important for me to be here because i felt i had a duty. she has served our nation and the commonwealth for over 70 years, and i feel that it was appropriate for me to be here today to pay my last respects. >> what does the queen mean to you personally? what does it represent for your country? >> well, she represents, you know, like stability, fairness, equality for both the united kingdom and the commonwealth. and i feel that over the years she's done a great job, and all of us here today we deserve to pay our last respect to her. >> reporter: and obviously you recognize it'll be a few hours
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before you see anything here, but it seems it's well worth the wait for you. >> absolutely. it doesn't matter whether it's four or five hours, it's worth my while. 70 years is a long time that she's given public service to our nation. >> reporter: thank you for talking to us and thank you for your public service as well, miami. so this is just sort of a taste of, you know, the people we're meeting here in line, becky. there's a real sense of anticipation here in the line and you can definitely sense the same sense of anticipation, but there was also a bit of i would describe it a national bonding experience, a real sense of camaraderie for the people in the line. virtually everyone we spoke to, everyone i think i can say comfortably that we spoke to said they definitely made friends with the people around them in the line because obviously standing there for 12, 14 hours obviously had no choice, but it helped them pass the time and long hours as they bonded over their really mutual and shared admiration of the
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queen. >> scott mcclain is in parliament square. thank you. and with the palace of westminster behind him to his left is the abbey. and let's bring up the images we're getting from there, because the general congregation is beginning to gather inside westminster abbey. the doors opened some five or six minutes ago. there will be as many as 2,000 people in the abbey for the funeral service which begins at 11:00 local time. so just under 3 hours from now expect to see the heads of state from countries around the world about 20 minutes before that funeral service begins. as i say at the moment this is the general congregation who are beginning to gather. and that is, you know, people who have been invited, who have given service to the country, heads of charities, people from faith leaders and people from the church.
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so this westminster abbey, and you can see i mean for a city that would normally be extremely busy on the roads at this time on a monday morning, this is a bank holiday. this is a holiday in honor of the queen. it's busy but it's busy on foot as scott has been suggesting. he's in amongst the crowds there just outside westminster abbey, and there's a silence to this city, a city that i've grown up in. and i've never, ever known anything like this. it's busy, but it's quiet. let's look at the queen's itinerary for after this funeral service. and the funeral service will take about 45 minutes to an hour. the procession will leave westminster abbey taking a route through central london to what's known as wellington arch near high park corner. members of the royal family will be following the procession on foot. nina del santos is outside
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buckingham palace, which is very close to there. and nina, we've been talking throughout the morning about the history of this occasion. it's an enormous day for london, and a lot going into the planning of this. just tell us what you know from your perspective there. >> reporter: well, it's also an enormous day presumably for the people behind me here inside buckingham a palace. the royal standard is actually flying above buckingham palace which means the king is in residence at the moment, and he and his family will departing from buckingham palace and clarence house, his official residence at the moment, in about 2 1/2 hours from now. that is when we'll start to see the motorcades exiting the gates here at buckingham palace, and that is why you can see these crowds have now been allowed to gather together. behind me they were keeping this area cordoned off for some time, and eventually they've allowed
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people to spill over here into these barricaded regions behind me in buckingham palace. but i think we can also have a look at the size of the crowd because that the route the royal family will take heading over to westminster abbey. first of all, they'll go to of course westminster hall where the king will be present. her majesty's coffin will be removed, loaded onto that gun carriage. it'll be carried by 98 members of the royal navy over towards westminster abbey, and the funeral will begin. and we'll also have that funeral procession that will pass yet again to buckingham palace across that arch which is to my left. to the people not able to line the streets and get into this secure area at the moment, they will be able to look at the events on various ways. there'll be large television screens in hyde park right near
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wellington arch. there'll be television screens around the country in various different cities. the royal family also yesterday evening directed people towards a youtube channel they could also watch these proceedings on. it's going to be probably the most televised and watched event in the world by people here first-hand who were in unprecedented numbers, becky, have taken to the trains, buses, planes, you name it to get to london to see this first-hand and they'll of course be tuning in as well. as you said the security implications of this is a sizable logistical challenge that this country has never actually faced before. you know, this is a very important time because in the last couple of weeks we've had a new prime minister, a new sovereign and also a new head of the biggest police force in the country, which has jurisdiction over crowd control and so on and so forth. this is a political challenge
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that's thought been seen of this size before. it has been in the planning for many outside buckingham palace. state funeral for queen elizabeth the second expected to have the united kingdom's biggest post world war two security detail ever. her funeral will be attended by more than 70 heads of government and state from around the world including presidents, prime ministers and royals on top of that as many as 2 million people are expected to line the streets to see the queen's casket as that precession goes. officials aren't taking any chances domestic and foreign intelligence agencies are monitoring for threats. 10,000
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uniformed police officers will be on duty along with thousands more in plainclothes. for more on the security and that the logistics i am joined by nick olwrith. as nina was suggesting we had a new head of the metropolitan police force which is responsible for the jurisdiction of london who has described this as a massive challenge but one that his force is ready for and of course when we talk about being ready for something this has been in the planning for years. how long have you been aware of the plans? >> it shows that it's an organic plan that has changed according to threats. also according to what the
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royal family would quite like in terms of their own funeral plans. >> let's talk about some of the staggering numbers in terms of security. >> it's almost unprecedented and i would say it is unprecedented in terms of the volumes and the compressed. and small geographic area it's taking place in. it's comparable to the olympics but the olympics is three weeks across half of the uk. incredibly well-planned because you know how many tickets you sold for each event. here we are not sure how many people will turn up today. how many will line the route. and the met police quite rightly have created this inverted iceberg with the greatest majority of those looking after the event highly visible and available. >> before today we had four days of people queuing and snaking along the river thames upwards of six miles at one point queuing for some 24 hours at
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one point. there have been hundreds of thousands of people in that queue. the weather has been relatively kind. that's a security issue as well? >> you are right. as far as uncontrolled areas that present most risk but also petty crime and minor disorder that we have seen a little bit of, it's gone spectacularly well and i would be the first to pay tribute to not just the cops that have made that work but along that line there have been stewards, security officers, all of whom are on minimum wage started themselves for eight to 12 hours making sure people are looked after. >> what types of crimes? what sort of challenges to the
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security forces face? not only metropolitan police but the military as well. >> the top and is terrorism. we family live in a society where we have a mobilized self radicalized group of terrorists across a range of ideologies who prefer to use very low sophistication weapons against public crowds. they are almost invisible to the intelligence services radar and that's why you have seen some of the officers. the only way to do it is to deal with it by immediate response. there will be a few extra bumps, slips and trips because of the sheer numbers of people here. i found one for lady fall over yesterday and hurt herself and there will be a degree of petty crime. there is always in capital cities. if anyone is going to pull this off it's a met police and their colleagues in london. >> there are so many high profile politicians, and dignitaries in the capital city.
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the president of the u.s. being one of them. how do security forces here work with other intelligence operations and forces? >> hugely collaboratively and very regularly was the short answer. visits in and out of london every week. quite often these operational bodyguard teams, they know each other, they have each other's numbers in their cell phones so on one level it works brilliantly but there is a team inside the foreign commonwealth office who are there to organize the events. they are very well rehearsed and very adept at it. >> good to have you. thank you very much. the queen's final journey will be one of the monarchies --
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8:22 in the morning and london and you are looking at live pictures just outside westminster abbey where the state funeral for tran02 will soon be held. it's scheduled to start at 11:00 in the morning today. we are less than three hours away then from the start of the funeral where as many as 2000 people will bid a final farewell to the queen. the general congregation is beginning to gather and in about an hour and 20 minutes we should see the world leaders, dig entries gathering their at westminster abbey. after the funeral the queen's coffin will be taken to windsor for a committal service. that will be a much more intimate service with just the royal family and past and
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present members of the royal household. cnn's nata bashere is there with the details. what's happening there and what can we expect later on this afternoon? >> it's still very early in the morning but we are all starting to see people streaming through the town waiting for that precession which will take place later this afternoon as the queen's coffin is carried through to the chapel which is in windsor castle just behind me. just behind me people are being permitted to climb up to that hill and lay flowers along the castle wall. we have seen people gathering with camping chairs and blankets. we have seen that over the last few days in central london but many people in this town are taking this as an opportunity to witness a moment of history.
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this will be the final chance to pay respects to the queen as she is laid to rest in windsor and we also heard from some of those who have been waiting overnight for this moment specifically. take a listen. >> she has been amazing for 70 years. she is fifth seven and it's all i've ever known. she gave up her whole life to dedicate to her country. she has been fantastic. everyone will miss her. >> reporter: as you mentioned becky, the service at westminster abbey will be a grand estate affair but the service that will be held at st george's chapel will be intimate and more personal. we are expecting around 800 people to be in attendance including members of the royal family but also members of the royal household past and present and the queens staff. there will be a hymn sung at
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her funeral that was sung at her late husband's funeral. this is an estate that is deeply loved by the queen. >> a historic day in windsor and a historic monument to stay in london. nada bashir, thank you for that. still to come my one-on-one interview with the queen of jordan. she reflects on the contributions made across the globe. plus, king charles will be ushering in a new royal era and my guest tonight will take a look at the relevance of the reddish monarchy in modern life. that coming up after this.
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the state funeral of tran02. tomorrow morning at 5:00. just before half past eight in the morning here. westminster abbey has opened its doors to the general congregation for queen elizabeth's funeral. just a quick fact, it was founded in the year 1965 benedict and it is the most recognizable landmark in london. these are live images. the abbey not far from where we are here. the ceremony will be steeped in real tradition and we will honor her majesty's legacy. here's how this will all play out in the next couple of hours. in about two hours time her coffin will move from westminster hall to westminster abbey. it's really across the road across parliament square.
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then the funeral service will get underway at 11:00 a.m. and then the procession will set off to wellington arch as it's known and with royal family members following on foot. later the coffin will move to a state hearse and a procession will continue to windsor. more here in london. i had the opportunity earlier to speak to queen rania of jordan about remarkable life and legacy of queen elizabeth ii. she said the late monarch was symbolically the queen of the world. here is our conversation. >> the first time i met the queen i think i was just a few months into my role and she was quite sensitive to the fact that i was new and she could tell that i wasn't too sure of myself and i did ask her her advice and she told me how important it is to always be there to have that sense of duty and discipline. to pay attention to the little details and i always took her
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advice seriously. to me she was public service personified. she is a woman who pledged her life to the service of her people and for 70 years never once fell short of that promise and i think today she is -- she was the queen of england but she is also symbolically the queen of the world. she means something to all of us and no matter who you are you feel a sense of closeness to her. >> you have been struck by the atmosphere and the crowds and the british public. this sort of coming together. >> it's been a rough couple of years for the uk. trying to negotiate a deal with europe post brexit. a pandemic. cost of living. inflation. it has been tough. i never sensed the sense of togetherness that i feel today in the uk.
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she was a unifying force during her lifetime but she is also unifying in her passing. today she reminded people of what it means to be british. she gives everyone else a sense of perspective. politicians from all sides have sort of closed ranks around their new king and today we mourn a life but we also celebrate a life and we celebrate the start of a new chapter for this country and i am very optimistic. >> how important is there royal family to the hashemites? >> they have enjoyed almost 50 years of a close friendship. it was made more special by their common experience as monarchs. and my husband, king abdullah inherited and cherished this
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relationship. he was also very fond of her majesty as was. it's impossible not to be. and we have a very close relationship with his majesty and the queen consort camilla and my son now is very close with william so it's a relationship that goes through generations and one that we really hold close because it's based on common values. my husband as you know has served in the british army as well and my son as well. it's multifaceted it goes back a long way. >> her majesty's reign was during a period where the end of colonialism was seen and there is a respect from the british monarchy intertwined with issues that came from that era. how do you see the relationship developing going forward? >> are majesty was always led by principal and was willing to change and modify policies as
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she saw fit. and so i think people understand that whether monarchy stands today is very different then the issues. every era has its own circumstances and moving forward like i said his majesty has a deep understanding of our region. a deep respect. >> he also has eight deep admiration for an interest in islam which i think is really important as we consider the relationship that the british monarchy has with the middle eastern and wider region going forward. >> absolutely because it's a very thoughtful thing, he is somebody who knows things and study things deeply so when he deals with the muslim world he deals with it with a sense of experience and knowledge. he knows the region well and knows how to navigate. he's a very wise man. i have known that in my mind
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how much he will enhance relationship not just with our part of the world but every part of the world. >> queen rania of jordan speaking to me earlier. one of the key priorities for king charles going forward will be to continue his mother's work in modernizing the monarchy. my next guest is cinda catwalla. he has conducted numerous polls on the monarchy's popularity. he wrote in the guardian newspaper this week on the role of the monarchy in today's world and "the coronation next year might see the king more proactively show how we can best recognize our traditions by coming together to celebrate the society that modern britain has become. sunder katwala joins me now live. when you talk about modern society that britain has now become and how it will be the
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king's role to ensure that his thoughts and narrative reflect that, what do you mean by that? >> in many ways we have transformed in the seven decades of the queen's reign and we know today is the greatest occasion of state since her coronation in the 1950s. i think today there is a lot going on in the psychology and minds of a nation. people say nobody does tradition like the british. we can do that exactly as we could in 1953 or 1877. it's a very different britain that can do that. you also want to be modern britain. not stuck in the past but celebrating that thousand years of history with this totally different society and it was very strongly christian, a totally different britain now
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still marking the same traditions. >> you make a good point. i want you to take a listen to king charles began earlier about his responsibilities as monarch. have a listen. >> for all of you today to confirm my determination to carry out my responsibilities as sovereign of all communities around this country and the commonwealth. and in a way which reflects the world in which we now live. >> you yourself used to be's optical of the monarchy as i understand that you have come to see its merit. you do an awful lot of polling and what sort of support is there out there? i think it would be fair to say that republicanism as a political issue is somewhat redundant in the uk, that's not the same in countries around the world, but certainly there is support for the monarchy. tell us what the polling suggests.
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>> it would surprise us all if we went back 30 years. a fifth of people in this country have been for a republic. absolutely flat all along. there is that solid vote of confidence but something slightly misleading in the scale of the consensus that we have been hearing about. or some people so devoted queuing through the night or over the night. 60% support. a fifth, a quarter against but there were challenges in scotland and wales with many people under 35, with ethnic minorities because while my father's generation, the commonwealth, the queen that was part of you being british. we don't know about that connection so the king has a consciousness of that i think.
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the constitutional role remains exactly as it was. he's constrained by that but the civic role has this britain, not the britain of 1960. >> it's a civic role that people will look see how he develops. some would say that the united kingdom has never been more divided. the scars at the exit referendum still fresh. obviously all post-pandemic and there is a cost-of-living crisis here as there is in so many parts of the world today. and yet we have seen this uniting, this coming together over the last 10 days since the passing of queen elizabeth. do you believe this is a temporary moment of peace or can there be some lasting healing here? >> i think there could be. it was so much more divided than we thought we were. put the kettle on, talk with
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her, speced everyone's views. we are not as divided as we have been telling ourselves. we've got more in that sense in common than we feel. we look across the atlantic. the united states and we see two totally different americas going at loggerheads about everything. we share a monarchy, we should remember is, we share an olympic team, we should cherish all of the things that remind us that our divisions are not what defines us. the queen symbolized stability just by being there. >> good to have you here. thank you for joining us. as the general congregation begins together at westminster abby the time here is 8:41 in the morning, an hour from now
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you will see the heads of government and heads of state from around the world gathering at westminster abby for what will be the queens state funeral at 11:00, london time. still to come, a touching message from king charles. i am becky anderson. stay with us .
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the state funeral of queen elizabeth ii tomorrow morning at 5:00 .
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well it's quarter to nine in the morning here and members of the general congregation have begun to enter westminster abby and that is in advance of the funeral service of queen elizabeth ii. the funeral is set to commence at 11:00 local time and with the members of the british
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royal family and world leaders from across the globe in attendance. just hours from now a procession will take queen elizabeth's coffin from westminster hall where it has been lying in state for four days to westminster abbey where that state funeral will take place. these are members of the general congregation and they are getting seated at westminster abbey. the funeral takes place at 11:00 local time so about 2 1/2 hours, a little bit of time for people to wait but as you can imagine the planning and the logistics and the security dictate that people need to get into westminster abbey early. westminster abbey, just across the river from where i am here. just literally across parliament square from where the queens casket has been lying in state. you will remember over the last four days hundreds of thousands of people have queued in what's now been called the line of duty to see and pay their respects.
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something like over 100 hours. that q snaking back for some six miles. this is now, today, these shots of just outside buckingham palace. that is where you will see the procession later on today and as you can see there are crowds already gathered there. we are told by authorities that there could be as many as 2 million people on the streets of london around this area. it's about a two square miles from buckingham palace up to westminster abby around the palace of westminster. pictures early on this morning and crowds have been gathering now since before the sun rose over london. it is 8:48 in the morning. we will take a short break. we will be back after this.
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congregation have begun to enter westminster abbey in advance of the funeral service of queen elizabeth ii. the service itself is set to commence at 11:00 local time so that's just over two hours from now and we will see members of the british royal family and world leaders from across the globe in attendance there. these are members of the public arriving at present. heads of charities and others who have given a life of service , faith leaders also gathering there today. amongst the 2000 who will be seated. it's william hager, former party leader of the conservative party in the uk. you will see a lot of familiar faces as people begin to enter
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westminster abbey. built in 1906 and a very familiar iconic structure to those of you who may have traveled to this city. ahead of the ceremony, joe biden paid tribute to her majesty and find a condolence book at lancaster house and it read in part "queen elizabeth was admired for her unwavering commitment to service. our hearts go out to the royal family and to the people of the united kingdom." here is more what he said. >> she was the same in person as her image. decent, honorable, all about service. our hearts go out to the royal family. king charles and all the family. it's a loss that leaves a giant hole and sometimes you think you'll never overcome it but as
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i have told the king she is going to be with him every step of the way. every minute, every moment. >> joe biden whom you will see arriving at westminster abbey about an hour and a half from now. scott maclean is outside the palace of westminster just across parliament square from westminster abby and amongst the crowds, as many as 2 million expected to line the streets around central london today. what are people telling you where you are? >> becky the people we spoke to said they wouldn't miss this for the world. this is a historical event and something that they likely will not see again in their lifetime. most people alive today won't see another queen in their lifetime. it's possibly that a small
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child might but for people your age are my age it is unlikely so this is certainly something to be remembered. if you look around here you see people lined up pretty. we are just around the world from parliament square. initial procession from the houses of parliament or from westminster hall to westminster abbey will be relatively short so the folks here won't see much of anything maybe passing glimpse of the casket from down in the street. it's what they are waiting for is the procession to the wellington arch which takes place after the funeral and i have just been speaking to some of the families and i just want to chat with his folks. hello, just wondering why was this so important for you to bring your daughters here? >> i just really wanted them to experience it. i hope there's a small chance they might remember it and we also felt that they may not have another queen in their lifetime so it was really important. >> thank you so much.
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appreciate it. becky, everyone seems to be on the same page saying look, this is a historical event, it's important to see it with your own eyes. >> is a moment in history. scott, thank you for that. i am becky anderson in london and more of our special coverage of queen elizabeth ii's funeral is after this short break. you are watching cnn. .
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