>> i think it does. as elie points, that the intent issue is always a question mark. we don't know what he knew and whether he realized we -- it's required under the statute. apparently, the conversation, they don't know precisely the day -- it's late 2021. -- he's probably trying to give him some good, friendly advice, because trump is, at that point, in a hefty discussion with the national archives. he's trying to get documents he starts returning 15 boxes that have 184 classified

documents. that is when it goes to the department of justice and an investigation starts. this reporting, we don't know why it has come up now. but this is a key witness, which warned trump, don't hold on to these documents, which would be deadly testimony. >> they were meeting face-to- face with trump's legal team. they both submitted letters tonight. what are they saying and what can we expect from the preliminary conference? >> it looks like trump has said to declassify documents.

the party's draft plan, this is how we're going to go about this. and the document that's the trump team filed a few hours ago, we have to look at what documents donald trump declassified. there will be a later time when we'll do that. that is conspicuous. it is, why are they being so wishy washy about that you cannot lie to the court. if you believe that your client did not declassify documents, you cannot say that at the declassified documents. they'll have to continue at the hearing. >> john, do you think that the

11th circuit will enter? >> i think the 11th circuit has to make a decision. they have to resolve the case. the stay has been appealed to the 11th circuit. we don't know what the panel is yet. it will be a three judge panel initially. it is not a friendly circuit for the government. it is very conservative. a lot of trump appointees. but they will have to make a decision. will they continue to let the classified documents be a part of this body of information or will they follow the government's request and extract those.

>> is the court going to look at the special master. >> we're six weeks out already from the search. if the doj had not objected to the special master, the doj would have been through the documents. but we're going to start with the three judge panel. whoever loses that can ask the entire circuit to rule. if they do that or not, they can ask the supreme court. i know the doj did not like the ruling and had to fight this. but they are contributing to

the delay by pursuing the appeal. it is a give-and-take. >> let's talk about tom baker, the advisor to former president trump, the judge is overseeing the former lobbying trial do you think that the former president will be called to the stand? >> you will see in criminal trials where one party or the other will list a boldface name like donald trump, it is very unlikely they take the stand. how donald trump might fit into

this, trump is one of the people being lobbied by barrack. if he's being lobbied, he the judge may ask for that. > a former aide to donald trump, said that he did not do anything wrong that they are trying to make his life hell does this news make gates' even more hell because most people don't push for preemptive pardons? >> yes. he has a law degree. sew understands this more than the average citizen. this is not a good move for him to have this information out. trump did not act on it and did not get the pardon. what surprised me about this is it has been a long time

cooking. if it was going to go somewhere you think it would have gone. the key witness against him has confessed and hoping for a break from the government. and he or may not be a good witness. he may be holding up the case. this is something heart that we that we don't know but get little bits that it is still cooking. >> and we look at conspiracy theorists. how does trump linking himself to conspiracy theory? >> in many different ways. this weekend, he gave a dark speech about the state of america as we know it. while he was doing so, some

music began playing at the end of the speech, sort of this music that was low. but you could hear it. you could clearly hear it. let's listen to a little bit of the speech in ohio. >> we are a nation no wore respected around the world. we have become a joke. we are a nation that is hostile to liberty, freedom and faith. we have a nation whose economy is it floundering and the educational system is ranked at the bottom to have of single list. we are a announce once revered airports are dirty. >> donald trump is talking about all the bad things on america and of course, he's

blaming that on president biden, not himself. that music sounded exactly like the song called wwg1wwga, that is where we go is where we go all that is link the to conspiracy theories. for some, in hearing the song, they look at it as message, a wink and a nod to them that donald trump is with them and i believe in the outlandish conspiracies. you heard some of them, don. that they are democrats and they are going to put them all in jail. that he's going to execute them. that is the mentality of the conspiracies that they drink the blood of children and they get more and more outrageous as you go down the rabbit hole.

but that music compares to nothing that is much more overt. he showed this picture on his website. it showed him with a q pin on his lapel and the words, the storm is coming. and the acronym where we go, where we all go. there are many more that he's retweeting people that are known as conspiracy theorists. >> he's denying that this is a conspiracy song. they are song -- his team has denied. they said that the song is

mirror. sound the same? >> they do. i cannot tell them apart. they do sound identical. this has nothing to do with it. is a song that is free and we knew we could use it. they still have not said anything about the repost that donald trump put on his own website, showing him with the q pen on his lapel. that has no response at that point. we have not seen anything from them about that. >> what is the danger of engaging this group of conspiracy theorists, beyond the here is madness of what

they believe here? >> the fbi warned lawmakers that fuel on conspiracy here full on conspiracy enough of the here theorists. the fbi said it has not led the followers to leave or abandon the conspiracy. it makes them double down and makes them believe they have to take more control of the movement and therein lies the danger. >> you reached out to them. what did they say? >> they have not responded. this, more than a hundred reposts on donald trump's link

him to this. he's at 104 or something on his own true social site. >> what the hell is going on? >> there is a real idea here from experts that track in that because this group of people are so interested and so engaged, it appears that he's trying to engage this group has been some form of political power. that is what is going on here. >> always a pleasure. good to see you. so it is happening again in puerto rico, catastrophic flooding, power blackout and water rescues. it is fiona and what she's doing to puerto rico. people that never really

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. hurricane fiona has hit puerto rico and two people have died. this record is currently at record heights, higher than the records set during hurricane maria. this storm comes five years nearly to the day that hurricane maria leveled the island. thank you very much. i appreciate you're doing us. i can't believe it has been five years and here we are again. are you doing okay? >> it's been very rough. i'm going back to puerto rico this friday. i'm right here right now in

massachusetts. it is very different seeing things unfold from a different perspective what i already know and what the people work with and what the rest of the mayors know. we wasted five years, five years of a reconstruction that should have been way much more advanced than it is, especially when it comes to the electricity grit. my parents, who live there, a town close to san juan lost power about three hours before the hurricane hit puerto rico. right now they're without water and electricity. they had spent six months of water and electricity. so the fear of the puerto rican people is that history will be kept and that the aid will be kept at a level. that there will not be a robust

and consistent aid and that fema will not have learned enough from the lessons of the past and continue to request things of puerto ricans that cannot be done, for example, the communications are spotty because the communication towers will stop them and shut them down a couple hours before they can run over. today i had difficulty getting in contact in puerto rico. i think it is very important. i'm happy to hear that fema said that the number one goal is to save lives. i remember when i said that to president october 4th of 2017, this is not about politics. this is about saving lives.

>> i want to hear from the governor and what he said on anderson cooper tonight. >> i hope it will be a matter of days to get the service back to most of our customers. our grid is quite fragile still. it got fixed since maria, but not fixed maria. that is underway. but it has not been accomplished by my means yet. >> there are a couple of things there. immediately, they need aid and they need to be able to get warm and dry and so on and they need food and shelter. but what you're saying is the most urgent is in the long- term, it is what he's saying as

well. they're going to need infrastructure or grid. what are people saying? >> they're not coping at all. most of the mayors are saying what we need is equipment, equipment to get the mud out of the streets before it starts hardening. it is then a lot more difficult and then aid cannot be deployed. what we need is a waiver from the staffer act that will allow the aid to go to the municipalities and transform the grid. the programs are based on federal money that will allow them to turn their homes from electrical power to solar power. that can be done in puerto rico. $9billion have ban lotted to puerto rico for the electrical grid and only 40 million have been used at this point in

time. they can be put in place in the different communities in the place where's people need it the most. the transformation of that grid has been built differently. the staffer act says that. we need to transform to build the grid in a different way. >> how about bury the lines. >> if you can give us your final word on this, please. >> puerto ricans had redefined the word resiliency. he had two hurricanes, ousted two political figures, the governor and the mayor. and then the pandemic compounded this. we have come through each and

every time. but we have to look for permanent solutions to you're problems. we will make it because our hearts and our minds only follow one truth. it is that we're going to pull through. >> the former mayor of san juan. you be well. thank you and come back and update us. so he pled guilty to three counts of murder, five counts attempted murder and a count of first degree burglary. after 25 years in prison, he is now asking for parole. we'll tell you about that case next.

a convicted killer for shooting people at a high

school is asking for parole. he was sentenced to life in prison after pleading guilty toy five counts of murder, five counts of murder and three counts of burglary. but a law said that people that were sentenced before 18 need to be looked at for parole after 25 years. i bring in my next guests. many survivors and family members of the victims are upset by this parole plea and they want him to stay behind bars. listened. >> we have missed nicole's high school graduation, her college graduation, wedding, kids, our grandkids, many birthdays and

holidays together. everything was gone in an instant and is gone forever. >> i ask that you keep michael in prison for his life sentence. my daughter was given a life sentence. he should get the rest of his life incarcerated. nicole does not get a second chance. why does michael get a chance? you do not have the use of my legs. getting a shower and reaching would be nets in my kitchen, to getting in and out of my car, to the limited seating in a public area. to the embarrassment of special accommodations that have to be made wherever i got. continues his life in prison is the way his victims will feel

comfortable and safe without being haunted by what ifs. >> cornell was 14 and had paranoid schizophrenia. do you think he could get parole because of his age? what will it mean for these families? >> i think this testimony shows how hard and long that these school shootings impact, not just the victims, but the community at large. columbine happened after this incident. so this was sort of the beginning, for those of us that know a lot of about school shootings, about the beginning of schools being beginning. columbine changed that dynamic dramatically. let's start with the victims. this never goes away. but going to the law. it also shows the age of which

these are happening, 14 at the time time. 25 years is a longtime to be in jail and seek mental help, the things that we're hearing is put behind the court. i think there is a possibility that he'll get out. i think the overall -- part of it that we should take away from this story, how immune we got to school shootings and how personal and historical they are in this country. this is 25 years since the real school shooting. >> michael, so i understand that you don't think cornell will get parole, but one of the shooting survivors actually argued for it. >> i was a 14-year-old child. i laid on the floor of the lobby and bled from. side of my head and believed that i was going to die. when i think about the anger, i think about the 14-year-old boy and how he acted that day and i

think of my own children. a think that the man should get the chance to do and be better. >> so you say our penal system is about punishment and rehabilitation. so what will decision be based on? >> i'm stressed by the suggestion. we've become much too much accustom so the school shootings. our penal system is about punishment and rehabilitation. but when with you hear from the victims and the lasting impact, you have a middle-aged man coming up for parole for the

first time, i think there will be the appetite from the parole board, especially in light of the uvalde, texas massacre. i'm moved about the part that you played by the last man. but i'm also moved by the people that have that have lost the last 25 years. the tragedy is both for those families, we did have a system of loss. when you killed three people. when you maim other people, you can talk about health issues. but the fact that he's getting mental treatment and other things that is helping him.

that still leaves the question for the parole board if he can live outside away from the confined life of the prison system. you think about famous people that have been killed. you see their killers paroled time and time and time again. this is tragic that a 14-year- old boy that committed the offenses. but i think the parole board is going to listen to the tears from the mamas and daddies that lost their kids. a territory is reclaimed by ukrainian forces. and torture is among the stars left behind.

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russian forces continue to conduct air strikes on ukraine. ukraine set that they carried out a strike near the south ukraine nuclear power plant. and now there is evidence of torture. >> reporter: there is no rest in victory here. this occupation slogan, we are one people with russia seems comic now that the ukrainians have chased the russians across the bridge and further south. it has landed under a hundred

meters from us. another swiftly follows. it is unlikely that russia can retake places lost in the past weeks. so this is about vengeance and spite. this prison claims to be local. but they think he's a russian soldier desserting or left behind. what else is left behind is far uglier, the tiny rooms in this detention center where 400 prisoners were held at one time, we are told. eight or nine prisoners per cell. booby traps in their place. a warning written next to this room. they're finding booby traps left by the occupying forces. that one there is a grenade left there by a tray of half

eaten food. it shows you the hazards that people are going to find coming back. is this used as a key detention center by the russians. but across this town, the damage is extraordinary, but also too is the risk of unexploded booby traps. they're discovering two other scars from torture. this former prisoner introduced to us. he said that he was a prisoner a month ago and was once a cook in the army. the telephone was used as an old model and used to send electrical shocks

through him. [ speaking foreign language ] >> reporter: they asked him who he was in touch with from the army. they burned their interrogation records hurd hurriedly. [ speaking foreign language ] >> reporter: elsewhere, signs of a mindset fueling the russian invasion. they had time to paint this mural of a russian soldier on his arm next to the flag of the former soviet empire in flames. pause a moment here and the bloodshed and ruin and consider how truly odd this is.

they are only here a matter of months. but shot up this building. they say that winning does not heal the wounds, just gives them enough time to feel them. they've taken a new town. it is important because it shows that they are moving forward in another front apart from that where they showed enormous progress in the past weeks. and many are asking where the next ukrainian thrust will be? and the big question is, does russia actually have

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at the end of the ceremony, the queen's crown removed from the top of casket. and now they played her final resting song. so joining me now is the former queen's bagpiper. sorry for your loss. >> thank you very much. >> you were the queen's bagpiper from 2015 to 2019. what was it like to seer being laid to rest? >> very sad occasion also for me personally fantastic to this

the opportunity to be the fly on the wall. it was a fascinating experience for me. but it was also a sad day for me and my family. >> the queen specifically asked that the pipes be played at her ceremony. what did they mean to her? >> her lineage and it leads more to the scottish than it does to the english, ironically with the late queen monarch. she has of scottish heritage. i asked her if they liked the

bagpipes and listening to them. i didn't want to play them for anyone that doesn't like the bagpipes. she said to me, that she love the the bagpipes because she grew up with them. her great grandfather and great grandparents would listen to them in the 1940s. that is how she was brought up when she came to scotland. >> you have a moving story about the kindness that queen shared with you after the devastating loss of your parents. can you share a little bit of

that, please? >> yes, my parent died. i was actually in service to the queen. i was with my wife and two children. they were invited to come and stay while i worked in in balmoral. i was in shock. my mother was diagnose with the stage four cancer. i came back to speak to my boss. she asked how my wife is. and i said she's going to die in a few weeks. i wanted to play the bagpipes

to clear my head space. the queen said, there is a point in everyone's life that you have stop and be the professional and go and sit with your wife. so there has to be wife first. so i left my children. everyone looked after my children. they stayed in balmoral castle. i went back to see my children. she went and got strawberries and fresh fruit in the garden and went to the pastry chefs and muffins and make a lovely basket and gave to me. this is so you can look at the your wife especially well, little things like that. her majesty was great.

she was the best employer that anyone could ask for. i'm a bag piper. the reason that he is not here is that he's looking after his dying wife. she said no to the military. she was fantastic. >> wow! scott, i'm so sorry for the loss of your wife an beloved queen as well. you and your family take care. thank you for sharing those memories and stories with us. be well. >> thank you. >> thank you for watching. our coverage continues.

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hello and welcome to our viewers joining us here in the united states and all around the world, i'm rosemary church. just ahead here on "cnn newsroom." scenes of devastation in puerto rico after hurricane fiona battered the island leaving thousands without power or clean water. we are tracking where the storm is headed next. plus, russian forces may be gone but for ukraine's newly liberated territories, the road to recovery is just beginning. and a final farewell for queen elizabeth. how the u.k.