now. >> not so fast, sara sidner. >> yes, don? >> how you doing? >> how you doing? >> okay. we have to remember we're on television. >> oh, yes. sorry. keep it together. >> your segment about cancer death rates falling. we are living in the future. you look at cancer death rates falling i'm sure you remember back in the day when you had to have this whole host of cocktails for hiv. now it is either a shot or a pill and possibly a cure in the works. same thing with cancer. we are living in the future. >> we have to remember that when we're doing the debby downer segments right? we talk about a lot of problems in this country. that is a beautiful reality. >> yes, it is. so are you. >> ditto. enjoy, don. >> see what i did there? have a good one, sara. this is "don lemon tonight" and the former president's run of bad luck, well, it just keeps rolling along. rolling, rolling, rolling. special master has just about had it with the legal team and i remind you this is their hand

picked special master. this is really a put up or shut up moment for team trump. judge raymond dearie ordering the trump team to back up his out of court claims that the fbi somehow planted evidence during their search of mar-a-lago. back it up or put up or shut up as they say. the search that turned up more than 100 classified documents. the judge wants it to give him a sworn declaration with a list of specific items they claim were planted. that's the thing. this is about facts. it's about evidence. you can't just make wild accusations in court without a shred of evidence even if that is your main m.o. out in the court of maga opinion. the judge also considering testimony from, quote, witnesses with knowledge of the relevant facts and let's not forget the former president would have you believe he could declassify documents just by thinking about it, which is not a thing. senate republicans not buying that either. >> up here we take it very

seriously. people can get hurt. people can get killed if it's not stored correctly and if that information gets out. >> well, plus problems mounting for vladimir putin. at the u.n. today world leaders slamming him over his invasion of ukraine while he is scrambling to restore his battered war machine and sources tell cnn personally giving directions to generals in the field. that as he calls up 300,000 citizens to fight in ukraine a mobilization not seen since world war ii. russians who want to avoid it are crowding the borders while families left behind say good-bye to loved ones they know they may never see again. but is a desperate putin an even more dangerous putin? how much support does he still have from the russian people? we've got more to come on this later on in the broadcast. we have a lot to cover in the couple hours we have this evening. i want to begin with cnn's legal

analyst and good evening to you both and thanks for joining us. let's talk about this special master which was the hand picked special master from team trump overseeing this mar-a-lago docs, ordering trump back up their claims the fbi planted evidence telling trump's lawyers really to put up or shut up. >> exactly. it is one you can file this all under be careful what you wish for team litigation trump because you might get it. you've asked for a special master with cree democratic conventions who has experience judicially to be able to understand what they are looking for. the pfizer court experience about the notion of classified documents versus unclassified, the idea of privilege versus nonprivilege but ultimately someone in a position to know the difference between the court of public opinion, don, and the court of law. what you can say in the court of public opinion might be much more expansive but what is required in a court of law is that if you make an allegation or an assertion you have to

actually substantiate it. here this special master is saying, look, you have articulated, your client articulated all these notions about either planting evidence or declassifying documents. where is that statement in a court of law? if it is not there that is not going to bode well for the over all assessment and frankly might actually translate into the court of the electorate or the court of public opinion as to the veracity, credibility of all of the claims that he has made regarding that search on his estate. >> bradley, this special master is also opening the door to wit testimony, which is kind of surprising. there have been a lot of questions about the chain of custody and who may have moved the documents from the basement to trump's office. who do you think could be called as witnesses? a witness or witnesses? >> so there's any number of people who work or worked at mar-a-lago who would potentially

be relevant. obviously donald trump, some of his personal attorneys who are not working on this current, particular civil litigation. you think of alina habba, christina bobb. there are privilege issues and what they can talk about and the extent to which this is in the special master's authority but to supplement, this is all a problem of donald trump's own making. he brought this civil litigation when he didn't need to. he gave doj the opening to provide the public with more information about what was going on that he didn't need to let them do and now he has both the 11th circuit and special master breathing down his neck telling him what are you doing here? you can't just make these wild accusations. you have to back up with sworn affidavits, with exhibits. you've done none of that. we're not going to play games with this stuff. either you provide the evidence or your case is done. >> listen, you know this. a lot of people will say

especially when a high profile person they want the court of public opinion. they think they can sway people, they think they can sort of push the legal system into what they're thinking. i want to continue talking about what you said. what does it say that both the special master and 11th circuit are taking on trump's public claims that haven't been put forward in legal filings, declassifying the possibility of planted evidence and so on? >> you mean the idea of his interview with sean hannity to suggest you could declassify somehow through telepathy, don? the idea you could just think about something and all of a sudden it goes away? a nuclear secret. we think about it. i guess it goes away. classified documents. let me think about it. no longer classified. the absurdity of the statements is very much the self-inflicted wound so the judges have the benefit of two things. one the facts before them in the absence of evidence and also they are remembering back to a time not long ago when there were similar statements made in

the court of public opinion about evidence of voter related fraud, election related lies, and then when asked in a court of law to support that, substantiate it in some way they did not. in some respects not only are we seeing the judges learning from what has happened in this particular matter but learning from experience based on other instances where there has been a statement made by the former president in the court of public opinion trying to inject and infuse a particular narrative and then in a court of law their brethren and sisters of the court, there's crickets there. unfortunately he is i think now becoming the victim of his own making in the sense of every web of statements that are unsubstantiated creates an opportunity for really him to undermine his own cases and matters even before there is a single criminal charge. >> here's the interesting thing, bradley.

donald trump has been very lit ijous, no secret, right? that is what the evidence shows. he has been able to wait people out financially, you know, have them spend a lot of money and have things go away because people don't want to be entangled with the legal system and they don't want the fees. what do you expect? this instance is different. right? what do you expect trump's lawyers to do? they have a client that makes a lot of claims about the fbi and seized documents but so far trump's attorneys have been more restrained. it would be a crime if they knowingly lie in court. correct? >> correct. absolutely. they don't want to commit perjury or suborn pirjary. the lawyers all know who rudy guiliani is, sydney powell. they don't want to go that way. they don't want to go to prison or find their licenses at risk. they are going to try to find this middle ground with this client who doesn't listen to them, forgets he has the right

to remain silent and if he doesn't things could be held against him. they're going to try to thread this needle and what they actually put forward to the court and the arguments they use to just try to drag this out. they are not expecting to win anything with this civil litigation as far as i'm concerned. they know the law is not on their side. their goal is one thing. to drag this out, muck up the process, make it so the government can't bring itself, can't finally get to a decision on whether to bring an indictment or not. and make it so we get closer and closer to november 24 at which point all of this could get shut down if either donald trump or someone favorable to him were to win the presidency. >> here is what i don't understand. if it was your client wouldn't you handcuff him and lock him in a room so he wouldn't go on television and do an interview and possibly make things worse for you? why are they allowing him to go on television and make claims and then have the special master say oh, you're going to make those claims then show them.

prove it. >> well, let's be really honest. it's all about the money. the only lawyers he's got actually willing to work for him at this point are ones demanding things up front like a $3 million retainer. you're entitled to get hired, any lawyer you want. lawyers are not required to agree to be hired. the only lawyers who are left are those who are simply not ready or qualified to handle this situation or basically told donald trump, look. you can do whatever you want because it's your life and going to be your potential freedom at issue. i will do whey can within the bounds of the ethics rules to defend you in court. i won't suborn perjury and i won't commit perjury myself. i won't do what apparently christina bobb may have done and potentially have committed perjury and lied to the feds but you can go off and do that stuff and say whatever you want to say to sean hannity because it is your life as long as my check clears i got what i want. >> laura, judge raymond dearie is someone trump's team put

forward as candidate for special master. did they think they'd get someone more favorable? i'm sure they did >> i think, don, their hope was that he would be somebody who had an ax to grind against the fbi. remember that judge dearie was on the fisa court that oversees surveillance of individuals and one of the people the fbi had put forth before this judge as a part of the fisa court was carter page. remember carter page had this infamous three-time renew warrant to sur vail him but ultimately it was found to be problematic to say the least. one of the times it was actually sworn to and allowed to go forward was under this very judge. i suppose the trump litigation team may have been hoping that they had planted enough of a seed of doubt in the mind of this judge to suggest that it was fair game to doubt law enforcement and the fbi.

this judge so far and we don't know everything that is going to happen but so far this judge is adhering to what he is asked to look at. remember it was either classified documents review, they've said no now in circuit court, or the idea of privileged documents neither of which relates to a potential ax to grind and frankly to suggest he would proceed under that notion would really belie what we've known to be his credibility on the bench and tenure for the better part of three decades. >> if you make a claim you got to prove it. that's what happens in a court of law. thank you both. i appreciate it. mobilization the likes of which russia hasn't seen since world war ii. desperate russians trying to escape across borders families saying good-bye knowing they may never see each other again. as putin's problems multiply what will he do next?

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cnn's matthew chance has our report on the reaction from the russian people. >> reporter: suddenly, exodus across russia's borders. social media now filled with images of the southern frontiers of vehicles backed up. everyone is on the run from russia he says. endless cars. it's mind boggling. in the west toward fin land bored other figureses also reporting significantly higher traffic. 5,000 crossing in a single day. more expected by the weekend. making for the exits. across russia there is a growing sense of alarm. even anger of the call up for reservists to fight in ukraine.

more than 1300 protesters have already been detained. many of them women, terrified their husbands and sons will be killed. [ speaking in non-english ] >> translator: i've got two kids of conscription age. i've brought them up alone. i don't want to lose them, she cried. and for what, asks her friend? so they can kill the sons of other mothers, she answers. but the mobilization is taking place regardless. reservists like these boarding a military transporter in the russian far east showing how many are heeding the call to arms. assembly points, families are saying emotional good-byes before their men, some apparently in middle age, are bussed away.

in what was always cast as a limited, special military operation and feels more and more like a full blown war. don, the stakes at home for vladimir putin are rising tonight. he is continuing to raise them as well if ukraine. tomorrow a series of referendums will be held about bringing areas of that country into the russian state. if that happens senior russian officials are warning nuclear weapons could be used to defend those territories if they continue to be attacked. back to you. >> thank you so much. florida governor ron desantis vowing those migrant flights to mirandartha's vineya were just the beginning. not if my next guest has anything to say about t it. stay with us.

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part of governor ron desantis vowing to transport more migrants from the border but a florida lawmaker is trying to stop it and tonight filed a lawsuit against desantis to block him from transporting any more migrants from the southern border to other states. the lawmaker is florida state senator jason pizzo and joins me now. thank you for joining us. i appreciate it. the timing couldn't be better. you just filed this lawsuit about an hour ago and you say the governor and his administration broke the law when they paid for flights to move venezuelan migrants from texas to massachusetts. tell us about the case you're making. >> thanks for having me on, don, and for reporting on this very critical issue. in the state of florida this past legislative session just a

few months ago two bills were passed and signed into law. one was the appropriations bill where all of the state revenue and budget goes. the other was an immigration related bill that prohibited certain activity for people to be transported. both of those bills which the governor signed into law very simply said that only money could be used for the transporting of unauthorized aliens from the state of florida. by all accounts, even his own speaking repeatedly operatives were sent in from the vendor into texas to gather and corral up a group of people, take a pit stop on the tarmac in florida, call that being from florida, then off to martha's vineyard. this is a very narrowly tailored injunctive prayer for relief just to stop making these payments. >> let's talk about it. this is justification for the flights. he is pointing to a provision in the state budget that sets aside $12 million for a new program to

transport migrants unlawfully in the united states. what is your response to that? >> i'm a bit of a textualist so it says the florida department of transportation is required to implement a program. it has to receive two bids. we have no indication of two bids and the allocation appropriation of $12 million to be spent again, very important, on unauthorized aliens and we can question the immigration status of the individuals brought here from texas. not all are unauthorized if any because they were processed and paroled into the system. and second from this state. very clearly by all indication, reports, videos, testimony, other lawsuits filed nobody originated here in florida. no dollar can be spent outside of florida. >> okay. so the migrants on these flights were not from florida as you said. he has repeatedly suggested that the action was validated because florida is in the final

destination of many migrants. is that a fair assessment? >> it's about as fair an assessment as saying instead of flying up here to tallahassee the state capital and spending the night with my kids in anticipation of where i might be next week you have no idea. to try to get into the heads of 48 migrants of where they intend to go or may go is so attenuated it should find no place in the law nor will it. >> desantis has vowed to transport more migrants and said the flights to martha's vineyard are just the beginning and he is not backing down at all. >> now everybody is talking about it. look, they're busing to new york city, d.c., all this stuff. that is not the solution though. it is to recognize the policy has failed and change the policy. you could do that very easily in ways that have been proven to

work. hopefully we'll be talking about this a lot more now. this was not an issue of concern even two weeks ago. now it seems to be on the front burner. so we're proud of that. >> interesting. senator, he gets a lot of applause for his rally so clearly it is a hot button political issue. >> it is to his base. for the past four years i've been in the state senate it's been less about democrats versus republicans, the ideology or policy but more about republicans sort of distinguishing and distancing themselves to their base and showing who can be more right of the other one. here's the deal. this is really kind of sentimental and personal for me. like governor desantis we both are the great grand sons of women who came here from italy who were illiterate and took out a claim for themselves and their families and worked very hard and came up through the system and had the benefit of every thing available in the united states. i like to remember that and

cherish that and he seems to forget it and his ancestry. this is cruel and inhumane and the focus of the bill is to stop unlawful and wasteful spending outside of the state of florida. >> what comes next for you? >> hoping to get an emergency hearing tomorrow. i'll remain in the state capital until we hear from the circuit court here in tallahassee. if we don't get it tomorrow i'll remain until we do. >> all right. thank you, senator. appreciate it. >> thank you don. >> please update us. thank you so much. a republican congressional candidate coming out swinging against women suffrage. what century is this? we'll talk about it next.

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warned his party about their, quote, candidate quality, is this what he was talking about? joining me now cnn's political commentators. good eepg. we could be here all night talking about this. don't you think? >> there is enough material. >> let me put on my glasses here. the gop has a lot of extreme candidates on the ballot. in ohio's ninth congressional district the committee seems to be losing faith in congressional candidate jrmajewski pulling their ads. he is an election den ire and was also at the capitol on january 6 and has shared pro qanon material running against the congresswoman who has been in office for nearly 40 years. how is this playing out? margaret? >> it is playing out for a much smaller margin that kevin mccarthy is likely to have in his majority. let's not kid ourselves. it is still likely the republicans hold the house of representatives but kevin mccarthy was hoping for a

40-person majority in the house of representatives and the number tics down and down. they pulled a million dollars of ads for somebody in a trump plus three district in ohio that should have been a walk away race. and instead they've got these crazies. by the way, your question was is candidate quality what mitch mcconnell was talking about when he said this? you just talked about members of the house, people running for the house. he was talking about the senate. right? i mean -- >> i thought he was talking candidates in general. >> to the point they're still going to hold the house. maybe not decided. >> now i'm picking up what you're putting down. so the gop congressional candidate john gibbs once argued america has suffered since women's suffrage. he ran a think tank in early 2000s and this is what was dug up. the k file dug up he said we conclude that increasing the size and scope of government is unequivocally bad and since women's suffrage has caused this

to occur on a larger scale than any other cause in history we conclude the united states has suffered as a result of women's suffrage. what does this say about the candidate quality here? >> i'll tell you, i just couldn't believe it. you just had his picture. did you in the something about him? >> he's black. >> that he's black. in other words he didn't have a right to vote for a very long time until the constitution was changed. >> his people. >> right. okay. yes. ancestors didn't have it. so for an african american man to be against women's suffrage, to be praising an organization that wants to abolish the 19th amendment is hypocritical. it is crazy. it's shameful. it's like 200 years ago type policy. i mean, really. this guy should be running for congress of cave men. not for congress in 2022.

>> margaret, he said that women did not possess the characteristics necessary to government. >> neither does he. he doesn't have a brain. >> how does someone like that end up being a candidate? >> here is why. thank you for asking. i was hoping we'd get to solutions instead of the inanity that has become the base of the republican party. closed partisan primaries. say it over and over again. closed partisan primaries cater to the most extreme and most fringe in parties where special interests -- special interests used to be the problem. now it is just conspiracy theories and crazy sort of flatterist society, women can't vote. can't think for themselves. it is. the party is not just the party of trump. it is the party of conspiracy theories, the party of the big lie. all that. and this kind of stuff that by the way, this is a d plus 5-9 district. peter meyer the republican who

voted for impeachment and frankly had d triple c money run against him so this clown could lose the seat to the d triple c. >> that is my next question. how does that happen? how hypocritical is that? >> well it is going to play out okay for the democrats. >> which hypocrisy are we talking about? be a little more specific. [ laughter ] >> this particular one. you said a plus what? plus nine? >> look, somewhere between d plus 5 to d plus 9. peter meyer could have held it. this guy is not going to win. >> when we started this segment you said we'd talk about weak candidates and bad candidates. i said which one? because there is such a plethora to choose from, right? on the senate side it's got to be incredibly frustrating for mitch mcconnell because not only does he have some very bad candidates in places that should be wins for the republicans, ohio, pennsylvania, georgia, nevada. it's just go on and on. but he also has a very bad chair

of the national republican senatorial committee where there's a bunch of money missing that nobody knows where it has gone and a bunch of misspending that donors want clarified. mitch mcconnell has had to come to the rescue. all of this, the seeds planted by donald trump. having election deniers, conspiracy theorists, herschel walker. all of these people. mehmet oz. that is a result of what donald trump has, the havoc he has wreaked on the republican party. i'd also tell you you have all these bad candidates, a really bad chair, and then people who used to be good candidates like marco rubio becoming, trying to figure out how to become more maga. marco rubio who spent his career talking against communism and socialism, railing for tps for venezuelans now is railing against venezuelans suing ron

desantis for using them as a political prop. what happened marco? you used to be the republican savior. now you are the republican -- shame. >> thanks for the translation. >> hispanic heritage month so i can teach you a few words this month. this is my month. i'm embracing it. >> listen to anna's point it is, has become tougher and tougher with every single day to say that the republican party is not the party of what you guys are saying. because there are people saying no that's not the party. >> well, you know, there are a couple of us hanging our hats on lisa murkowski's re-election, susan collins, mitt romney, the senators who voted for impeachment and will live to tell about it. lisa murkowski you notice how i said closed partisan primary? guess where they don't have it. guess where the moderate candidates who actually represent the majority of the republican party get re-elected.

alaska. >> i was holding my hat on liz cheney and now i got no hat. >> gibbs' campaign says women should be allowed to vote and work and he says john made the site to draw attention to the hypocrisy of some modern day feminists. it was nothing more than a college kid being over the top. so there you go. >> hum. i already told you what i think of him. should i repeat it? >> no. i just want to make sure -- >> the reason that there is all these issues regarding women voting is because there's a lot of pissed off women. you don't take a right that had become an accepted national right for women and take it away all of a sudden. we as women are reading daily about the 10-year-old girl that gets raped and can't get an abortion, the woman who has to carry a child without a skull and give birth to it.

about the consequences and idea, how about the consequences with birg control? those things have got women, hell knows no fury like a woman's wrath and there's a lot of us who are very angry particularly a bunch of old, white men like lindsey graham who i bet you would have a very difficult time being able to identify the different items in a woman's reproductive system if he saw a chart telling women what they're going to do with their body. that is why they have an issue with women's suffrage. >> we'll leave it at that don't you think margaret? >> okay. >> thank you. 12 refugees in a one bedroom apartment. we'll look at the people helping ukrainians flee from war next. and at the top of the hour the special master hand picked by team trump telling them to put up or shut up.

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call champions for change we are highlighting people rising to the occasion, tearing down barriers, and making the world a better place. as the war in ukraine continues erin burnett's champions are helping refugees escape and resettle in the u.s. these three siblings who emigrated from ukraine years ago are doing whatever they can including opening their personal homes and providing financial support. >> mariupol, ukraine last christmas. mariupol, ukraine now. since the start of the war, more than 7 million people have been forced to flee ukraine. alexander and his wife olga were just two of them. they were trapped in mariupol with their three children. i'm at a park in brooklyn, new york. their daughter was about to celebrate her seventh birthday,

just months after they left ukraine. at times it is still so hard for them to even tell their story. >> an explosion wave took out our front door and looters came in and took whatever they liked. the shell fragments remain in my back and there is a hole in my head. >> the family escaped thanks to another family who lived 5,000 miles away. >> he is my childhood friend. we met when we were about 5 or 6 years old. >> reporter: alex and his siblings nick and angela came to the united states from ukraine over the past two decades and they started a small and now thriving business operating car dealerships. when putin invaded ukraine, their lives changed, too. >> we started calling our relatives, friends asking how they are there and people were panicking. >> the conditions was really bad. >> we decided we have to help

them, get them out from there somehow. >> one of the things that sticks with me is it took them 19 days to get from mariupol to the ukraine border. they had three young children. they had an 8-month-old baby. in the early days of the war, when i left ukraine along with hundreds of thousands of refugees, it took 19 hours. it was a grueling experience. and in the context you think, wow. the suffering that they endured and what they went through, the trauma is really unimaginable. they first lived in alex's one bedroom apartment in brooklyn. one bedroom, one bathroom. in that space he and his wife have hosted as many as 12 refugees at once. >> of course we have our challenges. but at the end of it all i understand that they don't have anything else. they have nowhere to go. >> the family reached out to their local jewish foundation

the edith and karl house and they worked to help them and so many other families desperately fleeing ukraine and trying to come to the united states to start a new life. how much money have you spent and how are you managing that? >> it is hard to tell how much money. you get there. the ticket both ways. it's really hard. >> and then what ended up here in the united states than maybe 150,000? >> alexander wants to find a home for his family. he wants to get a job. but he is struggling to find work here in the united states. [speaking non-english] [interpreter] >> it would be easier if they simplified the drop permit process. it is hard. we have been here for five months with no income. [end of translation] >> we are just trying to help them and save as many people as we can, as many families as we can. we already brought 15 families here. yeah, five more ready to come

to the united states. they are approved. more people are leaving over there in the country, in ukraine. it's very hard to choose. >> it's a choice that nobody wants to make. but the chosen in the face of such great loss are grateful for life. [interpreter] >> they are doing a noble, thing they are getting out of the country where the war is underway. [end of translation] >> alexander uses the word noble. that's what these people are, sacrificing their time and their hard earned success just to help others have a chance to build new dreams. [speaking non-english] [interpreter] >> i dream of getting a good education here to get a good job. >> i want to go to school as soon as possible and make footprints. [end of translation] >> wow! erin burnett is here with me right now. a fantastic story! the yourself says that they have been trying to get jobs in the u.s. for five months?

! what is that? >> five months, don! it's getting the work papers. they are here under her planetary parole status. you can get that, then you have to get work papers to be allowed to work. so alex is a crane operator. he simply can't get work. he talked about it, affecting his dignity and self-worth. he wants to provide to his family. you saw some of those other refugees who were actually in alex's apartment now, among them was a mother and a daughter. there were accountants at big companies and ukraine, in mariupol, don, now one of them is taking classes online, the others working at a nail technician. they are doing that because they cannot get work papers. so this work paper backlog is a really huge issue right now. >> listen, after the war we were all doing stories on each of our shows on people who are resettled here. and your story, we saw how alex has had up to 12 ukrainian refugees and his one bedroom apartment at a time. how can people help ukrainian refugees if they want to? >> the most incredible thing

about this don, they've opened their hearts and their homes and their wallets, all of them! i know people watch and say what can they do to help? you can if you want to take people in, you can do that. there is a process. go to welcome. u.s.. a button for ukrainian yuck refugees. you can see how to do it. it involves sponsoring families. that's what they have done for each of these families. sponsor them. so they can come to the u.s. under this humanitarian parole status for two years. that takes a huge amount of commitment. more americans can't do it though if they want to. and of course, you can also donate, i mentioned the united jewish appeal and the edith karl marx jewish community house. red cross, there are other ways of course that you can help. don, as you know, there is still so much help needed because there are still coming here and they are just desperately want to work and start to build new lives, as you heard those children say, they expect to live here now, maybe for the rest of their lives. >> erin, thank you so much, very inspirational story. we appreciate it. continue to share these stories

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intelligence analyst john miller, and special watergate prosecutor, mr. ackerman, and fetterman prosecutor, jim walton. so great to have you all on. john, let start with you. the special master is telling the trump legal team he wants to submit specifically a declaration of quote, anything specific items that were on the doj's list, that they believe were not taken from mar-a-lago. so basically, he is saying, this pr strategy about this was planted, making that claim, he is saying, prove it! >> the special master who is judge dearie, a special master in this case, not a judge. but he's acting a lot like a judge. what he is saying, if you are going to make these allegations, make them sworn, under oath, and bring proof. starting with that the fbi planted classified documents and other things at mar-a-lago. so he is trying to speed up the process which is put up or shut up. >> how do you think, nick, will

respond to this? >> i think they are going to hide under the rocks. this whole thing is designed basically to get donald trump to come forward with a sworn statement under oath that yes, stuff was planted by the fbi, or that the fbi moved things around and they are not where they say they were. or there is other stuff that is not on this inventory. so basically, he is the only witness. he is the only guy that can say this. and what they are forcing donald trump to do is to take what he has done on fox news, and actually come forward with real evidence in the court of law that is admissible, not speculation, not some super conspiracy theory that he has been spewing all over the place. and comes down and really show that he has got something and he doesn't, the lawyers are never going to let him do that. because if he puts in a sworn statements, he is leaving himself open for another charge of lying under oath to