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in its position. i just wrote, and i quote, the record contains no evidence that any of these are so declassified before the special master, and give resisted, denying any evidence he declassified any of these -- every ever expert weaved children do have said this process for declassification. if you don't believe, them take it from these republican senators today >> there is a process for declassifying documents >> there is a process that one must go through. >> all right, so that's pretty clear, what isn't clear accurate is what the former president claimed in an interview last night with his tv friend sean hannity. >> if you're the president of the united states, you can be classified just saying it's declassified, even by thinking about it because you are sending its mar-a-lago or wherever you are sending in and it doesn't asked to be a process. you're the president, you make that decision. so when you send it, it's

declassified. from -- canada next president reclassified, thinking the off-season. that might have started to someone who isn't stone right now, but it's not that absurd to some of the most claims that the president made about documents mar-a-lago. rudy giuliani said that keeping secret documents at a palm beach resort was about roughly as safe as they were at first. last, night the former president tried to suggest the fbi fbi planted evidence during their search. >> the problem that you have, is there going to, rooms they won't let anybody near them. they won't even let him in the same building or did they do it later, this notion of gusty here with them. >> when the avalon potentially did. >> it is true, norville in the

room. -- now we wait to see how her precedents community will respond to. -- unlike the president they cannot could just think about. it -- also cnn legal analyst and former obama white house ethicist norm isaac. norm, usually it communication protocol when you worked in the white house. what do you say to the former president's quote that -- not just telepathic. >> you look high and low, and executive one through 5 to 6, which still remains the law, find the closet says just by thinking about it, i can be classified document. even the president has to

submit to the law, that's the core american idea. >> but the president can decide caused by something, then there is a ripple effect process but there is evidence that he has done such a thing. >> and there has to be, anderson, think about these documents as one who himself at the highest security clearance, psg, i when i look at those papers, i don't see documents, i see people. the humans who stand behind them, americans and our allies who gathered this intelligence, the american people who are protected by these extremely sensitive secrets, and the danger that people are put in here and abroad when it gets out, that's why we have a process, and for some of these documents you have to go back to the classifying authority, even if you have the president that is why we have laws, and there's no place we need more then with these extremely sensitive, dangerous documents.

>> david, is the former president during his legal team any favors by continuing to make top concert this, because now it's judges telling his lawyers, look, produced evidence for, claim sign your name to it. if they don't, it certainly doesn't make the former president look very good. >> yeah anderson, right about that, and a huge degree of norm, but i will, with ceo that exists could've been updated by donald trump. he chose not to update it president biden has not chosen updated as well as the same you there was in place that president obama put in place and classified material and it lays out specifically who the classified authorities are and what the powers are for things to be classified and why and just as that process when you submit something the president can say i think they should be declassified it goes to an original classifying authority will then put on a document, who cuts fight it, when it's classified and as norm says when the president's gonna do cause, fight if he did think

about the kinds of eyeing, there needs to be a memorandum that evidence is that. it goes in the reverse, order saying the president thought about, this told me needed to be caused by. here's the memo hadn't caused fight. then on those documents themselves, they are stamp declassified in accordance with this memorandum, understate by this authority. so there's an entire chain of custody of paperwork, there will be there to evidence, that this does not in place. so the president leaving his lawyers very little wiggle room here. >> norm, the special master also opens adored witness testimony. to potentially hold committee. witnesses with knowledge of the relevant facts could be called to testify about mar-a-lago, without possibly included former president? >> well if the government sought to bring the former president to that hearing, or if the presidents own lawyers did so, potentially could. >> it's unlikely at this stage, that they would do that, including anderson, because the

president is in very serious, and i think perhaps the most serious risk of possible prosecution, we'll see what happens, because of the possession of these classified documents anderson, if you are i or david had even a single one of these documents, or to, or three, we would surely be investigated, and if you look at the history of the laws, very likely be prosecuted for their possession. the president had over 100 of them, and when we were kids maybe you watch but which with elizabeth montgomery where she blink arising wheeler knows and change reality, that doesn't work with classification authorities. >> david, some top republicans are rejecting the classification claims. obviously look, president supporters probably don't care about this.

but does this, when his attorneys are not able to backup his claims what are the ripple effects from that. >> it's gonna be unfortunate at some point you can only delay so long you could astronomic hearing and at this 0.1 of them it's gonna be decided i don't think it's gonna be decided in the president's favor because norm points out and many experts have pointed out, there needs to be documents that evidence -- there's a court hearing that set a declassification cannot korean less designated official followed best specified procedure. that's a court ruling on a previous statement that donald trump made in 2020 about i likely declassified some documents, the court ruled in that case it's not so. >> david orban, i appreciate, it a man in michigan who supported the presidents election lies, right over top statewide offices here, someone who's been more than willing to numerous occasions to spread

that lie, and now he's under criminal investigation, and cnn's senior investigative correspondent steve griffin as a question for, it's a different story this guy, smiling for the, pictures is running to be the top law enforcement official in the state of michigan. so, why is he also running from us? >> mr. lieu turnout we like to give you every opportunity to answer some questions. >> mad to per, now the republican -- it's also under criminal investigation for from lawfully gaining access to voting machines, though he hasn't been charged. he's also one of the main sources of the biggest live surrounding the 2020 election, a device tailed it dominion voting tabulators changed votes from trump to biden. his campaign manager initially told biden that he would do an interview, that didn't happen >> can we just haven't overtime? i've been trying to ask questions for months and half? what we're trying to do with

those tabulators? what we're trying to prove? >> he and eight others trying to prove there was fraud in the 2020 election, according to the current state attorney general. they illegally seized voting machines, and broke into the tabulators, and perform test on the equipment >> we've been able to show, through our case, how are the machines can actually manipulate votes. >> it is simply nonsense, i want, point he even posted a video of one of the so-called experts, breaking into an actual voting machine. unintentionally voting proving how difficult it would be to manipulate votes. every machine would have to be physically breached, which is a crime. >> when he's tapping here is database modification commands. >> jocelyn benson's michigan secretary of state. >> that seems like a crime of video. >> so seems like that to me as well, and is a state election officer my job is to report those crimes, and ensure that any machines that were tampered

with our replaced. >> cnn has learned that his so-called private investigation, may have gone beyond tabulators, and lead to attempts to open sealed ballots. -- the clerk of barry route to michigan, so that depart or the she was gonna have to -- they will be opening the valid bags, and re-sealing them. the clerk refused michigan's results for not only certified, local artists and state senator port led by republicans, found no evidence of widespread or systematic fraud. >> the report is adapted. >> what's so alarming is that parnas lee in michigan is linked others just like it across the country. authorities in multiple states are investigating voting machine breaches. and a colorado case, two men who work him were warned a court with a better investigation. --

also named, mike lindell my pillow guy. who's been one of the most vocal spreaders of lives about putting machines. and in georgia, the surveillance video shows his i.t. expert. remember? the guy from the video? in a restricted area of election's office, we voted machines or breached. >> and another one of to pronounce high tea experts -- in arizona, michigan, colorado, in georgia here is davidson is in her game -- >> i think we've seen on every level, a lot al a lot of evidence to see -- trying to run candidates who are sweating this become chief election officers >> in michigan, not only is dependent running for attorney general,

and secretary of state, all they this is the heavy believing that's mayor list claimed that the 2020 election was fraudulent. should they win, they would control upcoming elections. in fact, 27 states have an election denier, running for a position that could influence elections. >> we are very dangerous moment right now, if people who are running on a platform of the next election denial, telling the voters that they will, in fact, put their thumb on the scale to ensure that their candidates win, we can have a real problem with actual democracy in the night states. >> election election system advisor david backers of the danger is not if candidates when, but also if they lose, and refused to accept the results. >> imagine, we have dozens of january 6th all over the country, a different places and times. >> which is why the upcoming midterms or so consequential. in michigan, voters will choose if election deniers will leave the state, including a

potential attorney general, under criminal investigation. >> are you worried you'll be indicted before the end election, sir? >> andrew dry this now. is there a possibility he's gonna be tried before the election day, what's the status of the investigation? >> it doesn't look like it. the special prosecutor, who inherited's case, has ordered more investigative work to be done before he can make a decision on those charges. >> and driven, appreciate. it next kristen adam were tried to interview iraqi president but young woman's death in police custody, and the weeklong unrest's part across the islamic republic. first, alex jones latest testimony in the sandy hook trial, and this cruel spectacle he inflicted on the family children whose murders he spread so many lies about. stories of bipolar depression. i just couldn't find my way out of it. the lows of bipolar depression can take you to a dark place. latuda could make a real difference in your symptoms. latuda was proven to significantly reduce

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. this video tonight showing burning cars, damaged buildings, an unspecified locations across iran. according to mc, international eight people have been killed in recent days, of these four by security forces firing metal pellets a close range. other videos show people destroying posters of the extreme leader, burning his, jobs and cannot their hair and it of defiance. -- arrested by iran's so-called morality police, for allegedly violating the hijab law. christiane amanpour went to ask iran's president about, it he agreed to the interview, but then as you could see by the empty chair, across from chris young, he he backed up. she is with us tonight. how did all this unfold, you are set to interview him. >> i did, and as you can imagine we done a lot of groundwork to try to get the interview. and it is difficult, there is no doubt about, it it is difficult to get the agreement, and it wasn't 100 percent until

actually yesterday, wednesday, and then it was gonna be at this, are the has this, our and as we turn out, we set up all the lights, and we're told it was gonna go on. we are told he was about to come down, a 30 after seeing some prayers in the rest. and then i was told by one of the aides that, the president had a suggestion that i should wear a head scarf so look, i'm used to covering the steps of situations, and i will wear a head scarf in iran, where is the law, and pretty much you have to. but here, you don't. and i just figured, instantly in that moment that i had no choice but to a, stand up frigidly pencils, and b, you know, it was happening at a very important time, when the whole idea of the hijab was as you can see an issue in this

terrible round of protests. >> we have a -- precedent of interviewing here in the u.s. not wearing it. this time in particular, because this woman who died in police custody from these really notorious morality police, the idea of having to wear a head scarf at that time. >> well it was just a nonstarter, it's unprecedented that we got this kind of pressure, and i genuinely believe that either he did not want to do the interview, or he did not want to be seen publicly especially inside the iran with a female journalist who's not wait a scarf, given the circumstances. >> what do you make of the images we're seeing? >> while the important things is what's happening, i want to ask him how he's gonna deal with that, which are the most significant protests in iran since 2019, and back then there was according to various different press sources and

social media because there's no other way to get news, something like officially 1500 killed, others say a lot more, and this is taken out a whole life of its own, it's very difficult to tell where it's going to go i know everybody wants to think, is this the end of the regime? i don't think, so because there will crackdown. >> the state apparatus there is quite efficient -- it's an apparatus both repression. >> and the revolutionary guards are involved, they come out and said we're not gonna tolerate chaos. those people where the plain clothes, more sort of people on the streets who come and can really whip things up. now we're hearing, they set out really get, but an all female group, unit of the morality police, are going out to lay down the law. what that means? i really don't know. is it easier females brutalized females, i don't know. but the issue also is, they say

the government is lying. really, people you could see they've had enough. it's been 40 years, and this particular hard-line government started out by really going out for social liberties and reforms, and just handing it down. >> christiane amanpour, thank you, great to see, you coming up i was jones's first day of testimony, and a new trial on the lives we talk about the sandy hook shooting. 's he went off the rails, is a second defamation trial. this one is in connecticut, a short driver 20 children and six adults were murdered in 2012. experience turbulence. i would watch the flight attendants. if they're not nervous, then i'm not going to be nervous. financially, i'm the flight attendant in that situation. the relief that comes over people once they know they've got a guide to help them through, i definitely feel privileged to be in that position. ♪

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today was an incredibly emotional day for families and loved ones of eight victims in the sandy hook massacre, they finally face a man from a day they will never forget -- determine what goes financially, to the families, the lives they spread and for which they've already been found liable. this time in connecticut, and just to be clear mister joins escape has, he's called authority of 20 children a hoax, he said was staged, that it was quote phony is a three dollar bill, he called it a false flag operation, comparing it to hitler blowing out the reichstag that is just a sample of the pain that he's inflicted.

on a more personal level, his attacks on the anger of his followers has also been felt by individual families as well. in fact, the reach of his following is so broad that a youtube channel carrying the trial had to shut down the comments section. the reason, quote, duty threatening comments towards victims families. again, it's a nightmare, that even to this day they can escape, i was on display again towards the end of today's testimony the appearance today question as jones about rob parker, -- in aftermath, rob parker participated in a news conference about the mass murder, and his daughter. at the time, jones essentially accused robbie parka faking his motion that day his actual quote at the time a quote he's laughing and then he goes over and size big breaking down and crying. he said that about a father who suffered the worst day that can happen to any parent. the plaintiffs lawyer asked jones about the attack on parker is at the trial today, and that was when the courtroom exploded. >> he's real, isn't he?

>> u.s.. >> and for years, you put a target on his back, didn't you? didn't you? >> i made i said his name -- >> you put a target on his back, just like you did every single parent and loved one sitting here. >> no i didn't >> this is speculative, there is no foundation for it, and it's inappropriate. >> let's move on. >> just like all the iraqis you liberals kill and love. you switch on emotions all on and off when you want >> when i show a little respect? >> objection >> your have families in this courtroom, the laws children, sisters, wives. moms.

>> arena? i've already said i am sorry hundreds of times, i'm done same sorry. >> joining us from the new york times elizabeth williamson who's covered this trial. she's the author of them remarkable book, sandy hook a remarkable tragedy, and the battle for truth. did alex jones shining kind of remorse on the stand today? i'm wondering how the families reacted to the chaos? >> so, anderson, no, he didn't show any remorse he has repeatedly said that he's apologized to the families but if you try to look for evidence of that, it's nonexistent. . anything is trying to say in a kind of halfway has always been accompanied by a wink and nod to his audience which are conspiracy minded and continue to believe that sandy hook was a false flag. so no, and the families were reacting to really what they were reacting to was a

videotape of rob parker talking about his daughter on the night after her death, which was also something that didn't move alex jones. >> he continues to raise money all this time. i mean he's trying to make money off of this trial? >> yes, he has created -- sorry about that. he has created a website called kangaroo court, in which he is inviting his supporters to help send money and support his legal defense in this case. it's notable that this is the first day that he has shown a backcourt even those trials being gone on for more than two weeks although he's been holding press conferences outrun the court and maligning the trial on his show. >> we heard that family tierney tell draws people to target on their back, we know -- there's actually conspiracy

theory is sitting behind you in court. what was that person saying? >> yes, so that person came in sort of righted a pivotal moment when jones started falling apart and the proceedings started to really go off the rails. you know, there are playing this videotape of robbie just reminiscing about emily in a press conference, in a in the night right after her death. he was actually expressing compassion, including for the gunman, and this guy who's sitting behind me kind of snickering in hissing and saying, fake so that just shows you how these theories have endured and how alex jones continues to press the buttons of his audience a decade after the shooting >> so, there's the other similar trial the joins faced in texas, the jury warned -- once $50 million. that total may end up being cut by state law there, what kind of judgment could be facing in

connecticut? >> so here in connecticut, the laws are quite different, as i've written about for the times, jones has lost all four of the defamation cases filed by the sandy hook families against him so these are just trials for damages this is the second of three so here in connecticut, he has been found already liable for violating the unfair trade practices acts, by using lives to sell merchandise. so there is no limit on the punitive damages that could be us asked him, as the result of violating the law. so he is really fighting for his financial life here, so maybe that accounted for some of his behavior today. >> elizabeth williamson, your reporting has been extraordinary, thanks so much we appreciate it. >> thanks anderson. >> up next, the latest on russians trying to escape the president putin's mobilization order, will speak to the chief

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mobilization to revive his depleted forces in ukraine, have sparked photos like this. at least 1300 have been detained across the country for anti war protests. the scene of the app actual mobilization can also be heartbreaking, tearful goodbyes between family members. there is a farm artemis seen today, the un security council meeting in new york, russia minister sergei lavrov arrived, blame ukraine for the invasion. then, essentially, walked out. he also tied to our next guest, chief prosecutor at the international committee criminal court, who's been in ukraine investigating allegations of war crimes. we have no confidence in the work of this body for eight months we were waiting for test steps to be taking, against impunity in ukraine, and we don't expect anything more from this institution and a whole range of other international institutions. >> we're joined now by --

prosecutor for the international criminal court. and he responds to what he said? >> no, i think you summarized very accurately. no confidence in international institutions. not just the international criminal court, but other institutions as well and all one can do is keep trying to do his job. >> let's talk about what you're doing in ukraine, because it's really extraordinary. this is the biggest field operation for the icc, is that right? >> yes, the biggest deployment in the history of icc was a may. since then, i've had a continuous field presence in the field, investigating crimes within our jurisdiction >> can you explain how are you working, obviously we've seen images of horrible things happening in ukraine, you have to figure out a chain of command, you have to figure out what is actually something you can gather evidence and prosecute, how do you go about that? >> you know, divided up, try to

have a structural investigation, and looking at the information we receive and trying to verify it. identifies certain priorities, i tried to partner with ukrainians, other nationally authorities, and i've got people on the ground. you've been all over ukraine, who the bayous in bucha and destructive billy buildings and board ankara i want to see clarifications that have a solid basis to it appears to be the targeting of hospitals and schools, focuses on those, and look at the children, thousands of children have apparently been moved into ukraine. so folks try to look at the different reservoir of evidence. to see what is the truth, and that's what it's about. it's not about politics, it's about getting to the bottom was going on. >> something you said in your speech today really struck me. he said, in any conflict our responsibilities, anybody who picks up a gun or fires missile, must realize the laws, alive --

and accountabilities absolutely essential, that requires determined action. that notion that you want russians soldiers, any soldiers in the field to know that the law -- is alive, and will apply to them, but they have agency over their own actions. >> absolutely, we know from nuremburg superior order is no defense. whether it's keurig commander or foot soldier, no one should labor under the misapprehension that in the fog of war someone can rape, kill, or target people, because in the end sinicize progressed, and there's a multiplicity of sources that in the, end whatever the difficulties, we have a track record internationally i've been able to build cases against those individuals for the most responsible, and we need persons and determination among national authorities as well. >> you devoted your life to the law, to justice, often in the

past, the icc has worked, after a conflict is over, i mean this is ongoing, and is that going to bring its own challenges? >> it does, but it also brings opportunities. we are not here for ourselves as lawyers or for judges, we had to be here for the most vulnerable, and that means whatever the inconvenience, whatever the difficulties, we need to be where we are most needed, unfortunately when we're investigating war crimes, they often the best place to be in the war zone, and the opportunity is very often battlefield evidences available, and that persistence and determination, i think allows us to build partnerships with different authorities at the united nations, and different stakeholders. but actually grab evidence, they scrutinize it, so we can overlook it to the bottom was going on. >> but vladimir putin's announced his mobilization of 300,000 russian troops, it

could be involved. what are most worried about in this conflict escalating? what worries you most about this conflict, and will be able to do a job? >> well i think everybody has a multiplicity of war. from the children that are crossing borders with plastic bags, and mothers and grandmothers, it's massive variable what will happen to their futures, and will they have something to go back to you. but this is also next essential threat in many ways, because we have the secretary general the united nations, never mind president putin and others, have raised the specter of nuclear weapons. so this is something that should stop us on our, tracks not to be diverted or to be bullied, but to realize this is a very pivotal moment, and what we need to do is understand that rule of law and accountability has part to play, it's not going to solve all the issues in the world, but we need to realize that is one of the anchors of stability and

security. and to try to deliver on promises made since nuremberg, and we will keep saying never gain, because we keep lamenting in crying when we see rwanda, yugoslavia, and speedboat hospitals, schools, refugees from myanmar. but what are we doing about it? i think this has to be a wake up moment. that's to be a moment where we finally say, whatever the short term political difficulties, -- it is the only option we've got, if we're going to have a chance of pieces security is not a -- god given right, you have to work for. it >> appreciate time, thank you. up next, doctor mehmet oz is dilemma tenure sunrays, as he takes on hit his democratic opponent john fetterman. e got a lovely day to do it in, that's true ♪

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overturn the election of the, on january six -- >> but seven is outgoing path to me is yet to even weigh in on mastriano. i'm anna raju caught up with senator toomey on capitol hill today. >> why haven't you taken position on the governor mastriano? why wouldn't you weigh into that race >> i'm focused on the senate race. >> you want to weigh in any further about him or make your position known before november on him? >> we'll see. >> the outgoing republican senator will come in a little -- republican running for governor making that much as you well for the senate race, toomey says he is focused on cnn's jessica dean caught up with voters in pennsylvania diner to get their take on the two candidates. republican -- mehmet oz and john fetterman. >> two hours west of pittsburgh -- >> bedford pennsylvania is home to a historic downtown, scenic

landscape, and some of the commonwealth's most conservative voters. former president donald trump won his county with more than 80% of the votes in 2020. >> the united states of america. >> every wake up and retired veterans made at their route to 28 diner to drink coffee and talk politics. >> these are people that are running businesses and say let us run our own show and we may not have all of the education that you do, and we may not know all of the intricate things about economics, but we know how the ballots checked books. >> same diner that mehmet oz visited back in february. oz it at a primary victory after a recount, winning by just 951 votes. and face the immediate challenge of consolidating the support of a somewhat skeptical pennsylvania gop base. >> oz was trump's candidate. it's not our car to date. people in this county are probably gonna hold their noses

and a vote for them because fetterman is a dead lost as a candidate. >> that's my feeling about cause. i am sorry that i have to vote for him. but i would rather see him as senator then see fetterman. >> a recent cbs news poll shows just 36% of the supporters say they are quote, very enthusiastic about voting for him, 64% of republican voters in pennsylvania say they wished someone else had been nominated. still in bedford and neighboring somerset county where trump won more than 77% of the vote, most republican voters we spoke with are ready to cast their ballots for eyes. more than anything, eager to deny his opponent, democratic lieutenant governor john fetterman a win. >> the big prize is control the senate. >> senate chair of the republican party. now he acknowledges some voters headed out of the television doctor. >> we are very kristen bass

christian county, somewhat hesitant on doctor oz at first, they weren't sold on his second amendment stance. a lot of pro-lifers here. they weren't sold on whether he was pro-life or not. a little bit to pit at the time. but they are releasing that my best option is to vote for doctor oz. >> a long time -- >> like a lot of the people who live here, karen walker schaffer and terry mitchell have known each other for decades. and they share a lot of the same concerns about the state of the nation. >> the economy, inflation is just out of this world right now. energy is a big issue right now. and of course the border crisis. >> mitchell said she met oz and his wife and found them to be genuine. >> obviously he's our candidate of choice now so we need to backhand because red is better than blue. >> jennifer fatally also sauce in person when he visited somerset's. >> i want to listen to what he had to say and i like a lot of things that he had to say. >> are they voting for ours or

against fetterman? >> the distance that i get is a little bit a small portion of our voters who are saying, i gotta hold my nose on both her as i guess. most of them have come on board. i'm not getting any feedback that people are going to set the election out. jessica dean, cnn, somerset county, pennsylvania. >> we might happen for change, jimmy hash former navy s.e.a.l. who sort in the war of afghanistan, almost losses like there, he has been investigated with war and others and so others not make the same mistake again. his journey next.

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series that we called champion for change, cnn's breaking stories of everyday people that are changing so society and getting things done. tonight i wanted to bring the story of might happen for change, my friend jimmy has. retired navy seal who's working to avoid the mistakes learned in the war from future american complex. he's doing with the help of college students. even just babies of the -- longest war. >> it's been a long journey for former navy seal, jimmy hatch, to the halls of yale. 55 after a lifetime of service,

he is finally pursuing his college degree. and investigating a war that nearly cost his life. we first met jamie back in 2015. >> hostage rescue self is very hard. >> he was speaking out for the first time about a mission to rescue army soldier bo berke dog in afghanistan. on the mission, jimmy hatch suffered a catastrophic gunshot wound. >> hit me right above the knee, came out from the back of my like. >> he had to be rescued, bandage and bleeding, his 21 years as a navy seal were over. >> he was awarded the purple hearts and bronze star for his actions that night. >> we will not lose this war. because that's deep, there's a lot of layers, and we are all blessed. >> he was blessed to survive but its military dog, rump co-, was killed on the mission. he honored aramco in another working dogs who helped save lives by founding spikes canaan fun. a charity that provide

protective gear and training for working dogs who face danger. in 2017, our first profile jimmy as a champion for change. he convinced me to go skydiving with him to raise money for spikes canaan fund. in 2019, after transmitting with yell professor on another skydiving trip, jimmy was encouraged to apply to yells eli whitney program for non-traditional students with exceptional backgrounds and aspirations. >> a few months later i received an email saying that i was accepted. and i was shocked, i looked at my wife and she said, you would be an idiot if you didn't go. >> so age 52, jimmy hatch became the oldest freshman in al's class of 2023. last year, from the united states chaotic was withdraw from afghanistan, i asked me to come on cn