>> that's justin. but we just update from the national hurricane center as hurricane ian takes aim at cuba and florida. the storm is a category two and has been rapidly intensifying. a storm surge warning is already in effect for tampa bay with the danger of a life-threatening inundation from the water moving inland from the coastline. one forecaster warning this could be the storm of a lifetime in tampa bay. cnn's pedram javaheri is in the

weather center and patrick oppmann is in cuba for us. good evening to both of you. petra, i'll start with. you are looking at pictures released today by nasa, a live view of hurricane ian that can be seen from the international space station as it fights over the storm. that is massive. where is hurricane ian right now? what can we expect? >> don, we just got the advisory here. it's about 1100 miles south of the western tip of cuba. crew the brunt of the storm

system is gonna be felt initially in cuba in the coming hours, don, we think this will increase to a category three possibly as early as the next three hours. beyond that, we watch what's in store here. the water temperatures across this region of the gulf of mexico are among the warmest oceanic heat content anywhere in the atlantic. you notice the model of cannons here is a bit all over the place the last couple days. really, the last 24 hours better agreement. the storm track will shift a little further towards the

east. we'll watch and see exactly how this plays out here, because as early as tuesday morning, once the system reemerges across portion of the golf, we expected to strengthen and remain in that category three status, and possibly get up to category four and stay there for a couple of days. the reason this could be one of the most destructive and impactful storms across portions of western florida is that parallel track doesn't really come directly for coastal landfall. and possibly rides up the western shores of florida.

and right now, there's a couple things we're watching carefully with this, don. one, a major hurricane is almost certainly in stark. but this disagreement between the models is that the upper level winds want to pull this away into portions of western florida, while portions -- some of the other models want to push this back towards areas of the gulf of mexico. so this quite a bit of spread between these models that really can inhibit but the storm has to offer when it comes to its movement. that's the biggest concern moving forward. we expect the storm to slow down sandwich from wednesday into thursday when it's very close to land. >> patrick, do you.

now 19,000 residents -- here in havana. what are the conditions like now? >> you know, we have the first bands of rain coming in here. it really feels like the calm before the storm. but, talking to friends of mine who live in western cuba, they say the power is out. the beginning to feel the wind and the rain pick up, and the very concerned. i thought one federal mine it looks like they're hurricanes gonna pass right over where he lives. he goes tobacco and he's concerned the gun used -- lose their entire crop. certainly, the implications for people who live in this part of cuba, it's really a lot of small towns, very rural area. and the houses they have their, don, they're not built to withstand this kind of a hurricane. it's gonna be devastating. >> i spoke to pedram. i put spoke to the mayor of tampa. she's concerned most about the storm surge, as you know. ian's gonna begin to slow down.

that means a lot more water just sitting there in certain places. what will happen as in inside iran? >> don, on wednesday into thursday, the storm is expected to go from 13 mile an hour movement to about three mile an hour movement. essentially, the average watching -- walking pace. it's a very slow movement. the motion could remain in place for about 48 hours at true versus the region. it'll essentially funnel more water. storm surge threat is exacerbated over a multi day period. you've got to keep in mind this county is home to about 30 billion dollars of built property. no county in florida, miami bay included, has that much value in that many properties at risk

of a tropical system. and again, notice the disparity between the models. very close right here on the last few runs. we do notice that the closest approach, possibly late wednesday night,, don puts us about four -- miles west of tampa bay as it makes this very slow movement over today period from the west area of tampa northward. that's the biggest concern. people think you've got to make landfall to have the most incredible and destructive impacts associated with the storm, but the largest amount of damage with any tropical system is not related to his winds. it's a storm surge. storm surge causes the most loss of life as well, and that's the biggest concern.

this placement just offshore, counterclockwise flow around the storm, it's gonna share water right into portions of tampa bay. the waterways and in lets are all gonna really take on as much as 10 to 12 foot storm surge from wednesday into thursday, don. >> thank, you i want to bring you now st. petersburg, florida mayor -- and former fema administrator under president barack obama. good evening, gentlemen. i, governor ron desantis has declared a state of emergency. he says to expect heavy rains, strong winds, flash flooding, and isolated tornadoes. people preparing and taking these warnings as seriously as they should? >> i certainly hope so.

i must him be native, don, and this is the storm that we've always hoped would never come to our shores. the folks coming on recently aren't familiar with how vulnerable we are. we're trying to press that message. we've got the data, we've got the science, we know where the storm surge is expected to go. and that's why we've called for mandatory unpack you asians and three out of our five evacuations. we want folks to take that message, move out of harm's way, and we will minimize the loss of life by doing that. >> ian could be a category four as it approaches the coach cyst. the national weather service out of tampa says this is something that we haven't seen an our lifetime. does that make the preparations even more challenging if it's something people are not used to? >> while, something they've never had before, but i think as the mayor says, they've done a good job communicating. it's just not tampa bay. this areas to the south and north of there that are also very flood-prone. when we talk about tampa bay, we really need to focus on the warned area. why the hurricane center is so worried about storm surge is because this is some of the most vulnerable coastline in the united states with high

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important midterm elections in no matter. the select committee investigating the violent attack on our democracy january 6th will vote could be its final public hearing this wednesday. clips from the documentary about trump ally roger stone and his actions connected to the 2020 election could be part of the committee's presentation. i want to bring in now presidential story and john meacham, author of the new book and there was bite. hello mr. meacham, good to see you. >> how are you sir? >> i am doing very well that you're asking. earlier in the show i interviewed the filmmakers for the new documentary of roger stone. christopher goldman's and said this, watch. >> what i learned from this, from being with roger stone for nearly three years and the people around him, was and is that january six was not the combination, it was rather the beginning of a movement that is

increasingly undemocratic. it is important in challenging the institutions that protect the united states. >> talk about where we are john as a moment in history right now that might be coming in the days ahead and what might be coming in the days at auction. >> i think, and it's not a partisan point, i think that the evidence of our eyes is that of the last several years, there is a fundamentally violent, undemocratic lower case d trend in the country that is not theoretical but israel. and if you doubt that, there is the images of january six, the images you showed earlier. roger stone saying forget the votes, let's go to the violence. made a very good point in that interview where sometimes it

seems like hyperbole and perhaps these are a bunch of right-wing entertainers in don't take it literally, but we can talk ourselves into a kind of imperviousness to the reality of the threat by pretending that they are all just playing laser tag, when in fact -- they are about for the institutions which did hold on january 6th, but did so not least because of the courage of a single man, the vice president of the united states. and that is a reminder parenthetically of what democracies depend on. they depend on the character of the leaders and of the -- and to go directly to your question, we are and i think an incredibly touch and go moment where we are trying to decide whether we as a country are in

fact up to democracy. are we up to an agreement to not just the substance of the law, but the spirit of the laws and so i agree, i think we are in the middle of something. which we are at the end. we should meghan. when eleanor roosevelt once said, wishful thinking as the beast settings sin of american optimists and we should not fall prey to it. >> so roger stone himself harkens back to another time of history is a dirty trickster during the next days. now he is saying just declare victory. possession is nine tenths of the law. are you worried that we are going to see the same kind of power grab in the midterms? which the midterms are just a few short weeks away. >> it's trickier with the midterms, but there are threats, unquestionably. and i won't say to my republican friends, and i live in tennessee so when i say avril publican friends that is redundant. i would say do you really want to be part of a party where the most popular figure, the leading presidential figure is

someone who tells a lie, repeats it and is attempting to foist that on the rest of us. and again, that is not a policy dispute, democracy was built for us to argue about policy. was, also built for us to agree to basic rules of the road. and what that film shows and again the experience of the last five years shows, is that there are forces in america that want to undo those rules, then the process to their own purposes. and leave the rest of us out of it. that is not an elite point, that is not in emerson point. and that is just the truth and if we cannot confront it then again, maybe we aren't up to this. i think we are but i think the way to prove that is that we have to call things by what

they are. one thing about roger stone and harkening back to another era in history, is there is a really interesting question which is, richard nixon in the end had a sense of shame. he believed and obeyed the rules. when barry goldwater and hugh scott, john rhodes came to him right at the end in august 1974 and said mister president, you have not got the votes in the senate and goldwater said, i am not sure i'm going to be one of them either. at that point, what did nixon do? >> he did not call a mob to washington, he did not have a rally on the ellipse and storm the senate, he resigned his

office. almost as though we are discussing the peloponnesian more, it's so long ago. in political time. those institutions held. again they held so far, but there are frail and fragile infallible. and we often pay as much attention as possible. >> i find fascinating that you say these might be the most consequential midterm elections since the civil war. how so? what are you expecting, what do you mean by that? >> in 1862, we are a nation at war. abraham lincoln has bravely both rejected compromise in the secession winter of 1860 61. there was an entirely rational deal on the table to preserve slavery, extend the missouri compromise line and just kick the can down the road. which is what we had done again and again and again in the united states. lincoln said no. his top advisors did not want him to go to war over -- but he said no and in 1862, in

the midterm elections we republicans lost something like 23 seats in the house. they lost their working majority in the house. think about that for a second, abraham lincoln lost a clear majority in the house of representatives in 1862. and so they lost the governorships of new york and new jersey. and we forget this, the civil war now feels in memory like an episode of star wars right. it was good guy versus bad guys. not the case. in the sense that there was a significant element in the north that wanted to end the war, that were not ferociously anti slavery and thought lincoln was too anti slavery. it was fighting this war for a cause that they didn't really care about. and so that will was registered in those midterms. i think this is as important. because what was on the ballot in 1862 was whether or not the constitutional experiment is as imperfect as it is, would long

endure. and if there is a significant majority with the republicans in the house, if the republicans were to win the senate, don't take my word for it. listen to what the republicans are saying. they are going to unleash their powers to create as much chaos as possible. and again, if this were a policy dispute, if we were arguing about marginal tax rates or a policy, that is different. but this is about the fundamental question of a democracy. which is, will we obey the rules. will we obey the results of full free and fair elections? >> jon meacham, we are definitely going to see. we'll have you back here to discuss. thank you john meacham, appreciate it. >> what impact of the documentary footage of stone have on the jury 6:20 in what could be their final hearings, we are going to discuss that next.

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>> a cnn exclusive. clips of trump ally roger stone from a documentary film crew that have been turned over to the january six committee. i spoke with the filmmakers who share their footage with the 20. this is from the interview. including a never before seen clip of roger stone discussing a potential bargain following january six. which is. >> this is roger stone criticizing the white house

counsel office for what he described as their argument that then president trump could not provide preemptive pardons to stone and others, but there are large development in efforts to overturn the election, listen. >> figure this out. >> you are talking about pardoning a movement. >> i think 132 congressman voted with trump. that's 132 right there. the u.s. can be as bigger as small as you want. but it's a way of saying, this is so you can't run your witch hunt to. i'm going to do a movie poster, which hunt to. with a big picture of merrick garland. >> so that's the concept. as we've been pitched to the president? >> i believe the president is for. the obstacles are these weak kneed bureaucrats in the white

house counsel's office. now they must be crashed, because they told the president something that is not true. >> he is suggesting here that the president was getting bad advice in that he would be able to do a blanket pardon. is there more you can tell us about this? >> i think so. order stone was very afraid of getting arrested after january six. we went back to fort lauderdale. >> how do you know that? >> because he said some. repetition. >> on to? >> yes. >> what did he say? >> he said that there was no

rule of law anymore. that you could just invoke the insurrection act and they could just prosecute people without recent. >> sorry. >> he was on the phone with the bunch of trump. where the vibe was sort of that the democrats would be coming for all of them. now that they got into the white house. >> but it indicated nervousness tea? >> yeah he was very afraid of incident. >> again, roger stone has given us a statement saying that he disputes the accuracy of the clipped another prove nothing. we are going to see how the gym six committee might use them in the hearing later this week. joining me now, political commentators scott jennings and ashley allison. good evening to both. you fascinating and we are. >> scott all-star if the. it's no secret that trump hangs out a lot of shady characters like roger stone. after all commuted his sentence. what were the chances going to have to do really to bolster their case on wednesday? >> in terms of public opinion? for republicans. look, i think that there is candidly not much more they can do. i think that we know the basic contours of what happened. i think they have laid out a fairly detailed argument so far. we've not seen much movement in

public opinion. i do think that one of the things about the clip you just showed that is interesting to me and i would be curious to know trump is going to take it, the idea that thunderstorm is saying well, donald trump was not strong enough to overcome his staff of the white house on this pardoning issue. think about what he said. i think the president is for but the staff is stopping him from doing it. what he's saying is that the president is to reduce something that the constitution gives him absolute power to do. he doesn't need staff to issue pardons. he can right now on a piece of paper into it. trump would love that right. >> the idea that he is so weak that he's being bossed round by the staff, i don't know. strikes me is interesting interplay there. >> but you don't think there's anything they can do to bolster? >> look, i think public opinion is set on this thing, i don't think it's moved an inch. since it started. i don't think that's where we are. >> just one time you will agree with scott? >> i. now i am speechless. i think we have had so much information. people have picked their camp. and now if he runs in 2024, it

could actually sway public opinion. but i do think voters are not going to vote for people based on what is happening on the january six. >> january 6th when you think about it, it's been a while right? since they had their last hearing. will canadian in wednesdays hearing to make this sort of irrelevant again? was there a cliff-hanger. a who shot jr moment where people are going and i wanna come back. >> we saw and heard information in those hearings early on about the activities on that day and leading up to the day that were very shocking. i think at that point, those were the moments. unless they have some clip of trump saying explicitly what he was planning, that i think definitely coming out of the horse's mouth. otherwise i think that the timing of this is interesting. surprised they're doing it now. they say they might do another

one the midterms, but we had such a great sequence of events in june and july. it seems a little on time. i don't even know how many people might tune in for. >> let's talk about. unless he runs again, but the committee may make a criminal referral in the future. we know there is a separate parallel deal. investigation doj. the trump indictment, is it going to hover over the former president during the midterms? >> i don't. i agree actually, i think people are not voting on the snow. i think they are voting on the economy, inflation. i think if you are a democrat, you are voting on abortion and other issues. so i think the two parties have picked their issue sets. that's where we are, that's what we are going to see and we will see who turns out. however, where i fully agree, when the public turns its attention to who is going to be the commander-in-chief next, this issue of january six becomes front and center.

because obviously, donald trump will be asking for this awesome responsibility and again in the last time that he held that he totally abused and violated oath of office. that is one in my opinion it moves back to the front burner. one thing we have learned in this midterm, the salient of economic issues, the salient of other policy matters that people really care about to have really leap frogged to the front and put this thing way down the mask. >> do you agree with that? do you think democracy is going to be on the line, will that motivate democrats in five weeks? >> i think there is one caveat to that. there is what, two thirds of the folks who won republican primaries are election matters. you might vote the reason why january six happened is because of denying the results of election, if you are an independent, that actually might be determining factor of

who you are voting for. might not be the first one, but the second one. if you are a republican candidate is an election denier and you don't want your six to point out to come to your state capital and be afraid of that. i think that will play in voters minds. i do not think though it is the dominant thought unfortunately. >> speaking of election deniers, liz cheney said, one of the republicans of the day or so. it is one of the republicans. said that this is about care like, the election denier and republican candidate arizona, here it is. >> i will do everything i can to make sure they like us non elected. >> so does that include campaigning for democrats if that is what it takes? >> yes. >> it does. >> scott, is campaigning for democrats the right thing to do if the gop candidate does not believe in the election results? >> i disagree with. >> even if they're not tuned in

iron there's no evidence? >> i don't know what her future holds. i think she wants to run for national office. i think if you are going to seek the republican nomination, something that's been talked about. this is not something that you would do. but look, she and i are in a different place. i am a republican, i have no -- i've told you many times, i think we need a different nominee in 2024. then the one we found last two elections. but i do not feel like being run out of my own party. she obviously feels that way. that's her prerogative. but i don't believe you have to default to democrats who in my opinion, here is where the kumbaya is. >> and the same thing, there's a party regardless. >> hypothetically, the georgia governor's race. what if there were so many running for georgia governor that denied the results of the election. i didn't hear liz cheney talking about stacey abrams. why was she so fixated on care like? >> it's not the same thanks kind you know that. >> there was no run on the capitol, there was no party around the country say that we are supporting a candidate or candidate who is denying the

election, it's not the same thing. it sounds hypocritical to the average republican. >> when you guys hear things differently than most people. you don't think that an election denier? you would still vote for an election denier and support election denier? >> you are asking me if a republican has a responsibility to go and vote for democrats because they don't like somebody down the ballot for some reason. i just don't fundamentally -- >> i totally disagree. >> vote for a republican, a democrat or independent. somebody who is actually operating in reality. why should party matter over country?

>> because who is in charge -- >> i will say this. i think who controls the congress, i think who controls the different levels of government matters. >> even if it's a denier of reality? >> as a republican, the fact democrats have been in full control for almost two years injured in this country off into the ditch means a lot to me. >> scott, a lot of the reason we are here is because republicans don't want to do anything democrats ask for. >> there is no bipartisanship. >> hold on. got, i'm actually in the shock that you would support an election denier over somebody regardless of what their party is.

>> you are asking me about a hypothetical generic race. >> i don't know who i drove for an individual race, but my default position is that i would rather conservatives and republican being control. >> would you vote for clear lake? >> in arizona, over the democrat they've got out there. she has terrible of course. >> i would vote for the republican. >> and she's an election denier. i would say two things, one, i feel like there have been some democrats out there who wanted election deniers to win. and i think that is wrong to. because they thought it would be easier for the democratic candidate to win. no one should be supporting election deniers, but my question is, when does it stop. when do we actually put our country first. i agree, it would be hard for me as a progressive, as a democrat to vote for a republican ever, but if that democrat was actually trying to undermine the foundation of this country. i would really have to call to question my beliefs. what we get you enough not to vote for someone who doesn't believe the truth. would you vote for donald trump in 2024 if he ends up being. joe biden donald trump once

again. would you vote, would you not for. would you vote for donald? >> number one, i don't have to adjudicate my vote in position to you. number two, i would never vote for joe biden. he is like the worst president of my lifetime and i was born during the carter years. >> last four years before joe. >> did you look at your 401k today? >> goodness gracious, it's not all about money. >> for a heck of a lot of people who are going to the grocery store every day it is. if you will have a democracy we can talk about money. we can talk about their comic, can't talk about the stark market. >> we do have a democracy. >> and it becomes russia. and it becomes a dictatorship. >> we are not so we don't have a democracy, what we are saying we are on the verge. we were just having a beautiful kumbaya. >> scott hold on. honestly, this is an honest question. you are saying your 401k my 401k or her 401k, that is more important than the country. >> i'm telling you that the average voter gets up every day, goes to work, pays their taxes, plays by all the rules. >> i am.

they are staring into an abyss right now. they can't afford to go to the store. they can't get a mortgage cause moratorium through the roof. they're asking themselves what is happening today. you are saying your 401k is more important. >> look, i'm fine, i'm going to survive. but the average american may not. >> you are still not answering my question. >> i am. >> you are saying your 401k is more important in the country. then our democracy. >> no, i am saying that, look again, on foreign. i'm saying the average voter has front and center kitchen table pocketbook issues. >> every single election since this country has been started. >> we haven't had an inflation like this in half a century. >> hold on.

but we have had it in half a century. we've had before. but never before have we had people denying reality and the truth and undermining our democracy the way that folks are doing it now. what's more important you, the country, our democracy or your 401k. >> i mean i'm just going to tell, you your position to understand how you feel about. >> just ask you the question. >> you are in the vast minority of l. a. americans that relates to what they really care about in this election. >> i'm not. i'm an american, i have concerns just like everybody else. if you are right, then this january six would be the number one issue. i'm not saying i'm, i am asking what is more important, your 401k or the democracy of the country. >> i don't accept the premise, i disagree that democracy is on life support, i fundamentally disagree with. that we've master vote of

turnout in the next elections. more people participating than ever. it still doesn't mean that the people who are leading them are operating at a position of truth or telling the truth to them. many people have been coauthored by lies. >> i have some of your. that >> scott, the reason why we had the largest turnout in history is because -- >> in 1 million people, because people realize that we had somebody in office that was putting our country at risk. was not improving the lives of the average american person. that is why republicans voted for joe biden, that's why independents voted for joe biden. that's why the most young people ever voted before in a lifetime. we had record turnout because the person was putting our democracy into. reportedly constitutional right of everyone, immigrants, myself as a black person. both people on both sides. you really think joe biden is worse than somebody that said the things that happened in charlottesville. >> we've got to go. >> by the way, republicans did just fine. that record turnout delivered more republicans to the house, state houses, all down the ticket. it was trump, unique problem. but they wanted republicans beyond. >> thank you both. we'll be right back.

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t mission spacecraft deliberately unsuccessfully crashing into an asteroid marks humanities first test of planetary defense. the asteroid was not at risk of impacting earth but nasa does hope the demonstration will give them a better idea of how to deflect asteroids that could pose a threat to earth in the future. from, what i want to bring in cnn space analyst mr. miles o'brien. hey miles, good to see you. so this kind of stuff out of a movie right. arm again. in this mission is a success, how important is this moment knowing that we could protect our planet from these kinds of caused threats? >> yeah, i think that is kind of a pivotal moment in human history don. we proved that we have the capacity at least to do this. if a big asteroid we're headed our way and over the course of the long term, and it's

inevitable. we would have some thing in our arsenal that could give us an opportunity to defend ourselves. and put our ducks up with this thing. we live in a tough neighborhood. there is a lot of big rocks out there. we don't know where all of them are yet and that is an important thing to do. but if we do find ourselves in a situation where a huge rock which could cause an extinction event like the dinosaurs 65 million years ago, or something that might wipe out a whole city, it is nice to know that we could do something about it. >> so explain to me myles how did nasa actually make this happen. because this spacecraft was the size of a joint. >> yes, kind of david versus goliath kind of thing. the spending machine thing, about 1300 pounds hitting a rock that is five billion tons. you think we'll, what could that do? but it's not unlike playing pool. one ball hits another and you

are going to have an equal and opposite reaction. this is a little bit of newtonia physics. so that part of it is not a scientific mystery. what they really want to find out first of all is could they navigate to this object. only a little more than 500 feet across. about the size of it the great payment. over the course of a hard-earned 7 million miles. and then once it impacted, just how much of a push could they give it with that object that is so small. but traveling 14,000 miles per hour. and that is what is happening right now. astronomers all over the world are going to crunch the numbers and see how much of the orbit of this little moon of amorphous, how much that orbit changed. miles, in the short term we have with the, we became spotter, thank you. so i our time is short tonight, we really appreciate, it you will. it is the my front. >> italy's election, resulting in the country's first woman prime minister. but her rise also represents another marker. italy's most far-right leader since the fascist era of benito mussolini.

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