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tv   Don Lemon Tonight  CNN  September 27, 2022 8:00pm-9:00pm PDT

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we are following all the progress of hurricane, i want to get to florida governor ron desantis having a press conference enough margin see officials in tallahassee, florida, tonight. >> going out throughout the state, so this is not going to end up leading the state of florida until sometime on friday morning. so this is a lot of nasty
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weather. we are in sowing for over the next few days. kevin, got race here, and jimmy put jonas, a lot kevin come up. we will hear from secretary purdue and cfo. >> thank you governor. we again appreciate your continued leadership on this response to her hurricane ian. you said currently hurricane ian it's bringing tropical for rains and to the keys a south florida. there are meteorologists mentioned to us that before coming in that hour tropical storm force winds may extend out at landfall, 300 plus miles to the northeast. so again, as the governor's already mentioned, this will be a statewide event. this >> we are watching the officials here in florida, including the governor, give an update on hurricane ian and we are tracking the progress of that, very dangerous storms. it should make landfall in that category three. the national hurricane center of releasing a new forecast on
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hurricane ian at this hour. 15 million people are under the warnings in southwestern florida. the state is making its final preparations for the dangerous storms tonight and standing by for an update again, more information coming from officials there. you saw the governor giving a press conference and as well as the other officials who are monitoring their information. to meteorologist are tracking the storms for us, tom, seders in the senior weather center, derek madam, is in bradenton, florida. good evening to both gentlemen. tom, i want to speak with you first in new storm forecast is just coming out. what is the latest on hurricane ian? >> the latest advisory tells us this. this is a major hurricane. we know that. it is going to expand into its size. in the last advisory we had now have a center 110 miles southwest of naples. it begins to move at ten miles an hour, it's been moving at the speed all day long. even yesterday, it was a much stronger in cuba. they've had massive flooding, in western cuba, without power in havana, we've got our first
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hurricane gusts now being reported in key west. a couple of significant things to talk about. this eye is collapsing. which means it's undergoing some restructuring. it's an eyewall replacement cycle which means each time it does that the winds expand outward. now right now, the winds have not changed. hurricane-force winds extend outward 40 miles each direction. that's an 80 mile a wild swath of hurricane winds. tropical storm force winds has not changed but it's well when the cycle changes. already it is almost a 300 mile swath. it looked like landfall earlier, and the timing of course, give us a few hours here, maybe between 4 and 8 pm tomorrow afternoon. the center is changing. what is the new and the latest advisory, don, is that we have been watching and tracking of course this entire system. and each six hours, we get a new track. monday morning, every six hours, look at the trends. they've all been moving towards the south and east, and in the latest advisory, a few more degrees to the east. so instead of a landfall, let's
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say around venice, or englewood, we are looking pretty much around port charlotte. that's terrible news. now i know everyone along this coast was hoping that that i would be south of them so the surge would be worse to the south. nobody was everything terrible for the neighbors, but of course, when you watch the system, the forecast has changed dramatically for tampa, and the bay. so for the track change, we maybe it could be a little bit earlier, but still let's go with 4 to 8. and we can see where it moves into the area, here. now that is terrible news for everyone around of course charlotte harbour, down all the way to naples. cape coral, this is just terrible news. fort myers, it's going to shop all of the surge into this region. so as we watch this, we are going to see a few changes now, and we have in the surges. in fact, still 4 to 6 in tampa, but we will talk more about that in three minutes. the 8 to 12 now from around englewood, down southward. so again, a lot to talk about, ever-changing, but of course it
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could wobble still a little bit. but that trend has been interesting to see it shift to the east. that's bad news for those in the south, better known for those residences to the north. >> wow, tom thanks for that. derek let's bring you now, because ian is barreling through the west coast of florida where you are tonight. tell us what it's like on the ground? >> yeah, don, all of the ingredients are coming together for a worst-case scenario, for many locations, across the southwestern florida peninsula. and just like the acting director tour of the national hurricane center told my colleague jennifer gray earlier today, it's time to stop looking at the internet, hoping that this storm is going to go away. because guess what? it is knocking on our doorstep! it's getting larger and larger as the moments pass! i want to bring up my graphics because i want to show you exactly what is happening so you can kind of get a perspective of how serious this situation is. i want to show you exactly where we are, located right at the end of that little arrow that i just drew.
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the eyewall, that is located about 200 miles to my south. as tom was talking about a moment ago, the eye wall is expanding. that means the wind field is expanding. that means the hurricane has the potential to bring larger storm surge impacts to a larger service area, along the southwestern coastline. as compared to a smaller more compact storm like hurricane charlie, in 2004, that moved through, caused damage, still had storm surge, but didn't have that large wind field like we are experiencing with ian. now this is also important as well. if you recall, yesterday, we had a storm that was literally forecast to crawl up parallel with the coastline of the florida peninsula. that was going to slow down, and also weaken as it did, so but that changed over the last 24 hours. now we are getting more what is a perpendicular forecast, that means we got an earlier arrival time, and that leaves little time for the storm to weaken before it reaches the
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coastline. so we have the potential here for a category three or higher, major hurricane, as tom was talking about, to impact the region, where i'm standing now. and to my north, tampa bay, 40 miles to my north, and residents to the south. we are talking 100 miles to my south, it's fort myers. anywhere between those locations, we know that is the path the cone of hunter certainty, don't focus on that center line. it's important because the storms of these magnitude, they do that wobble. and miles matter. when you are forecasting a major hurricane like this. >> don? >> tom, derrick, thank, you stand by gentlemen, we have a lot to talk about. i want to turn out to at mclean, in march and the management chief for sarasota florida. thank you so much for joining, us chief mcclain, we appreciate you. we know it's a busy time for you. it's looking like ian is on track to strike, sarasota county, biggest concerns at this hour? >> don, thank you for this opportunity. my biggest concern is enough people are taking this seriously in our area.
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i have about 150,000 people that encompass at the level of any of the evacuation areas, that we called for four this emergency. and just this moment with my 12 evacuation salters by they tell me that we have about 3000 people. so i don't know where all these people bent, i hope that they left the area. but we are putting out messages, we put out one of those ipods messages, basically like an amber alert. they want to every cell phone. and we are hoping to tell people that you don't have as much time as you think you do. i think people look to the track and said, oh we got monday, tuesday, wednesday, thursday. well that was going when it was straight north. once it made that shift, and is coming towards us in the land, that wednesday, thursday, friday, across florida, we can see this tomorrow afternoon, making landfall, like the gentleman said, shrubbery harbor area. so my southern county is going to feel this tomorrow afternoon. >> you are not the fourth official to tell me that this
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evening that they are concerned that about the people, number people who are going to shelters, low. they would like to see more people going to the shelters and evacuating. what is going on? you think that people just are underestimating what's happening? >> i think people have access, these days, with their smartphones, and devices. and i think one guy said stop looking at the track, and hope that is going to go away. it's not. you can, if you are not a unofficial, an emergency manager, a meteorologist, making with these decision-making processes, you cannot look at your phone and say i've got, or i can wait and went to the shelter wednesday. when we made that ship onshore, the governor was here, when i woke up this morning, i went from up to ten foot storm surge up to 15. so we expanded, and then i get a call from the governor's office, we are gonna be there. governor, mr. jeffrey, several officials were here. in general from national guard. we had a press conference, we briefed a, then we had a press
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conference and announce to the public that we have to expand this thing. so that's a drastic shift, and i know a lot of people that weren't paying attention to that, i guess, and think that they have tomorrow. the problem is, here at 2:00 in the morning, we are locked down in the eoc. we locked everybody down, nobody in, nobody out. but 2:00 in the morning, we are going to stop saying tropical force winds, according to the hurricane center, arrival of wind charts. and it's very dangerous to drive. when those winds get to 45, we don't plan emergency vehicles out. they locked on in the station. that's why we want people to get to a safe place before that happens. >> i'm so happy that you are on, saying this. really. and that you are being emphatic about it, because it's so important. listen, chief, sarasota and fort myers are bracing for historic 12 foot storm surge. how do you prepare for that? >> really, don, you can't stop, it obviously. all you can do is look at whose impact. who would be impacted? we have maps that do that.
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we have a slash model, hurricane center that provides it. emergency managers look at that and they create the evacuation that. so for instance, is a squiggly line, where the water would go, we snap that forward to a boundary, like u.s. 41. now i can say, everybody was a 40, one we are at level a, everybody on the island, coastal, at every mobile home court, regardless of where it is in the county, it's part of level a. you need to evacuate! and if we are told that it's going to be higher than 12 feet of storm surge, we have to go to level, be level c, and so forth. and we break the announcement, be prepared transportation for those who don't have it. the biggest challenge we have is the medically dependent, those people who are oxygen dependence. power dependent. they love a tom, alone, sometimes elderly, mobility issues, we have them on a registry, but they have to do their part. these people have to register and let us know that they need assistance. and we have about 1100 that did. sunday, we called them all.
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yesterday, actually sunday, we did a robocall, like a cold, they need the help, push, one push to, we've got the numbers, yesterday we called everyone on all of an hundred, newly arrived, can you get to the shelter today? we started transporting them. out of that 1100, we had 295 by two different dependent shelters. and then we opened up the general population shelters for anybody that doesn't have any other place to go. and out of the 40,000 or so spaces that i have, 3000 people are taking advantage of that safety. and i'm worried that the time is white running out for safety to get to these. so we did the right viral alerts. every cell phone, and i don't know what else i can do. i've told people, we've done everything we can as emergency officials to give you an opportunity to be safe. and you have to do your part. >> wow, so beyond that, chief, does your county have the supplies it needs from the state, from the federal government?
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do you have enough sandbags? bottle of water? et cetera? >> yes sir, we did the sandbags two days prior, through our emergency alert. sunday, monday, we gave out i believe something like 17,000 sandbags. tons hand tons of sand. we have the water and the governor, and the director -- here today, and we have the national guard team here. only 1100 national guard troops throughout the state. ready to support this area. and we have the command team for the national guard right here in my eoc. this is probably the safest buildings -- we are about 250 miles per hour, five miles from the coast, 40 self sufficient. we on generator now. we've been on generator for the last six hours. we can run 100 hours on our generator. because we don't want t the powr disruption in the middle of the storm. >> chiefef, thank you. we hear the warning from you.
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i hope people are listening to the sound of your voice. we appreciate it, be well, be safe, okay? >> thank y so much. i hope all your listenerare doing that. have a good show, d hope they are tching, you they are hearing me. and they get there. because the time is running out! thank you sir! >> thank you chief! >> up next the storm chaser, hot on the trail of hurricane ian. it's clinically proven to detoxify below the gumline. and, it restores by helping heal gums in as little as 7 days. because you cant have a healthy smile, without healthy gums. advanced gum restore, from crest. the #1 toothpaste brand in america.
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>> so hurricane ian is expected to make landfall in florida less than 24 hours from now. this massive storm is and now a category three with winds of up to 120 miles per hour. my next guest is on the ground, tracking ian, extreme meteorologist, and storm chaser we tamar, joins me now.
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reid, appreciate joining us as we always do during these times. this storm is getting strong, stronger, bigger, you are out there right now, you are in pine island, where they are bracing for this onslaught. what are you seeing? >> well so far, today, it's already raining quite a bit, there's already popping on the road waves. there are numerous tornado widows today. some of the tornado threat today out in the outer band over a dozen tornado rolling,'s tornado done alligator, alley in the everglades. they're still active tornado rawlings tonight. does it for our east as well. so we are keeping it a close eye on those outer bands. but you can definitely feel the power of the system already. even with a number of -- even with the severity of these outer bands. we are in a mandatory effect where the area. santa belle island is just off the left. and we are expecting a 12 foot storm surge. here is going to be an absolutely devastating storm,
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life-threatening! needs to be taken seriously! you absolutely need to leave! these especially matters were it back to the area. >> we have a couple official on television tonight saying they are concerned, they don't believe people are taking them up on their offer of shelter, or the heeding the warnings to evacuate. you are out on the road. what are you seeing? >> well there definitely was a lot of people on the roads today. and i noticed that people were heading north, to south. on the interstate 75. but then i realized that they were actually cutting east, across the everglades, to evacuate on that part of the peninsula, likely running into active tornado running as well on the i-75. definitely a lot of people out and about, but certainly on the islands, people are boarding up, and beginning to take it seriously. just tonight as we are coming into pine island. we saw a lot of people that were evacuating, the islands out here, and i think the people are really starting to take this seriously. because it is going to be a category four, atlanta far, previous hurricanes like hurricane harvey, hurricane
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laura, hurricane ida, last year, similar intensity. and it looks like this was also is going to produce a huge amount of rainfall as well. flash flooding is going to be a system stand. suspenseful threat. a high risk for assessed rainfall by the prediction center across central portion of the state, including tampa. so all types of flooding expected from the storm system. flash flooding, coastal flooding, storm surge flooding, and it's possible that with the storm slowing down, on a partial florida, a vast storm surge could last for multiple title cycles. >> let's talk about that, because you said category four. they are expecting we heard as a category 3. with winds of up to 120 miles per hour. it's expected to feed off the warm waters of the gulf. in the coming hours, what are you expecting to see? >> well there is a lot of warm water just off the coast of southwest florida. some of the warmest water anywhere in the globe is found from the western caribbean through the loop current
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southeastern gulf of mexico and this hurricane is over that right now. it's over what is that are greater than 30 degrees celsius. it's very high oceanic heat content. it's certainly intensifying, it's going to be some internal changes. it just went through an eyewall replacement cycle where it squeezed out that earlier a smaller eye, and now that a larger i was starting to take over. that gives it even more room to intensify, the pressure, around 9:50, i believe 9:52 millibars, recent -- so it certainly has room to deepen which is definitely a scary thought. it's also a very large storm. so even though it's taking a similar track to a hurricane charlie, it's more intense now. piling up that water and i think that the storm surge is going to be much more severe, with a storm like ian. >> all right, so we talked about the storm surge. as we say, some places are expecting to see up to 12 feet. talk to us about the danger that the storm surge has pose. because quite frankly, that's gonna be the most dangerous
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aspect of the hurricanes, correct? >> yeah, it's the most dangerous, and it's the aspect that i'm most terrified of, as well. personally as a storm chaser, having to chase down over 40 of these tropical cyclones. and any of these category four storms, it's absolutely terrifying, the power of water. and it's a tsunami-like wall of water that comes in. it's a combination of the winds, piling up the e water, also the prpressure fall, that helps to create a l little bit of a bubbe on the sea surface. and all of that combined, to create a storm surge, , with waves on top of it. so 8 to 12 feet, above the normal levels. and then we also have the structure of weight off of that storm surgas well. >> reed timmer, be well, be safe, we will see you soon. thank you. >> thank y for having me. >> jury selection has begun in the seditious conspiracy trial of five leaders of the oath keepers over january six. what you need to know about the trial, next.
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president biden signed the inflation reduction act into law this afternoon. ok, so what exactly does it mean for you? out of pocket costs for drugs will be capped. for seniors, insulin will be just $35. families will save $2,400 on health care premiums. energy costs, down an average of $1,800 a year for families. and it's paid for by making the biggest corporations pay what they owe. president biden's bill doesn't fix everything, but it will save your family money.
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jace election out underway in the trial of five members of the far-right wing oath keepers, mostly charges against, the seditious conspiracy for their alleged roles in the january 6th attack. want to bring in our senior analyst mr. elie homelike, elie good evening, to you. as we track this hurricane, we got other stuff to talk. about this is what we're talking about the oath keepers, beginning today, with jury selection. the central charge seditious conspiracy, that is what makes this trial so historic. the government rarely uses this charge. >> yeah, john it has been over a decade since the department of justice has charged and
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charge anyone with seditious conspiracy. what that means by the way simply, attempted to stop a lawful function of government, the counting the electoral votes by congress, by force. that's what separates this from all the other charges that we have seen against january six rioters. and it's such a, doj has come under some criticism and i count myself one of these critics, for not charging more people with seditious conspiracy. my view, anyone who wants into the capitol that day, and use force, a plan to use force, should have been charged with this. yet we have seen under two dozen people in total, of the 800 plus people, so really just about a couple percent of the total rioters, charged with seditious conspiracy. >> ellie particular relying on more than 40 witnesses including fbi agents, capitol police officers, confidential human resources, journalist, how far do you think it will be for prosecutors to prove this case? >> well no case is easy, don, most child i go to trial in the federal system do and in connection. the most powerful evidence in this case is encrypted messages exchange between stewart rhodes
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and the other defendants. they are talking about how they need to brace for civil war, how they need to gather, and they did, gather weaponry, and stashed them across the river from washington d.c., in, hotels in virginia. how they plan to get together what they called q r s, quick reaction forces. to me, witnesses are important, but the text, those text are written by the defendants, those are gonna be my strongest exhibit, if i'm prosecuting this case. >> you know, the committee, january six committee postpone tomorrow's hearing due to hurricane ian. they are planning to reveal new information uncovered in the summer. what docs do they need to connect do you think? >> letting the person they need to do is pull everything together. they put on i think eight or nine hearings at this point, they really giving us some compelling evidence. but they need to pull together into one coherent narrative. the way you would really as a closing arguments and a jury trial. i think there is still some unknowns, what happens to the secret service record? do we know anything about those texts? what's happened to the missing calls on the white house law, when people in communication to the president? and most importantly, was there
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a direct line of communication from the white house, to other domestic extremist groups like the oath keepers, or proud boys. >> i want to ask about the trump new addition to his legal team, his name is chris kise, he's getting sidelined from mar-a-lago documents investigation. he was the big name brought up less than a month ago, to really represent trump on the issue even negotiated a 3 million dollar payment up front. he may still focus on other trump investigations. but what is happening with him? why is he being sidelined? >> well it's hard to say, chrise kise, is one of the more accomplished lawyers on trump's legal team. really the quality of his lawyering so far has been poor. and i think i'm being sort of generosity even stating it that way. the arguments has been, late the strategy has been all over the map, and we are seeing a backfire, for example with the special master. these claims that trump is making, he declassified documents, the documents were planted, the judge now, the special master is calling him
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out on it. and part of the dilemma, i think, for every lawyer, whether it's chris, guys or anybody else. you cannot make a false statement to a court knowingly. and if you are put in a position as a lawyer, then you have to step off of the case. i don't know that that is happening here, but the facts and if chris kise is in fact being sidelined, or somehow minimized, that is not a good sign for donald trump and his legal strategy. >> is it ties, or is it that there is really no defense at this point? >> or no good defense i should say? >> >> well, any good defense lawyer can come up with a decent defense. it could be that there is a miscommunication, or a lack of trust, between the client, donald trump, and a lawyer. it could be that chris kise is not willing to make certain defenses that donald trump wants him to make. and that goes back to the ethical point that i said before, you can go into court and say something that you believe is false. and when that happens, you do see parting of ways sometimes. >> the special master gave trump a friday deadline to put up or shut up about documents that he claims were planted by the doj. in a search and seizure. now we are hearing about
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banning their 3 million dollar attorney? is it clear to the trump's lawyers know how to proceed here? maybe they don't really know how to proceed? as i keep saying, maybe there is no good offense, and the only difference is, i don't know, possibly to not tell the truth, or make things up, or do things that they shouldn't be doing, as attorneys, i don't know. >> yeah, these lawyers and are in a top spot. the, start the special master, gave them a deadline. they cannot go in there and said yes he declassified arguments or documents, if that's not true. what i think we will see some lawyerly tap dancing. i think we will see things like well judge, we are still investigating, we needed to consider our optionsns. that kind of thing. but i dodon't think the special master is going to stand for that much longer. i think he's basically at the point where he says, if you don't come in here and back this up, then i'm counting you out on those defenses. >> elihonig, thank you, sir apprecte it. >> thanks don. >> if there's biden student
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loan plan heating debates, now the proposal is facing significant legal challenges, and it will likely won't be the only one.
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a new lawsuit is the first of what could be many significant legal challenges, president joe biden's student loan forgiveness plan. the lawsuit from an indiana lawyer allege biden's program is an unacceptable abuse of
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executive authority, and can force him to pay taxes on forgiven debt. remember, under biden's plan, announced last, month individual borrowers who earned less than $125,000 in 2020, or in 2021, and married couples who made last $250,000 in those years, will see up to $10,000 of their federal student loan debt forgiven. if a qualifying borrower also received a federal piled crowned, they are eligible for up to $20,000 of forgiveness. there is a lot in there. so we are going to explain. joining us now to talk about all of the cnn political analyst, tom, cnn alice stewart and ashley allison. thank you so much, appreciate you joining us each and every one of you. john, this is the first major lawsuit of what could be many. why is this meeting such strong opposition? >> we're gonna be the spaghetti of the wall loss of state where conservative activists are gonna try everything they can to stop this plan. part of that is political, but
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i think there is a principled argument to be made that this is an overreach of executive power. that's the argument that will make. congress controls the strings, president biden didn't think they had the power to -- >> she shaking her head. >> yeah. and that's going to be worked out in the courts. this is not a -- >> do you think that this is an over reach? >> look i think this could be good politics and good policy. and when governments actor try to alleviate the debt on individuals, as opposed to corporations, that's something that people can say is an overreach of government power. i think it's a different approach to hire. but there will be legal challenges. and it should just be dismissed out of. okay before i bring alison here, i want this question for ashley, the congressional budget of office is expected that biden's plan, could cost government, 400 billion dollars over time. does it cost too much? what about the issue of fairness, because a lot of people say that they worked hard to repay their loans. was that not fair? >> well i think that joe biden has made it very clear that if you make more than $400,000 or less than $400,000 a year,
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their taxes will not be race. from this plan or any plan that he is presenting. and that is what the american public voted him into belief. and he has stood by that plan. 400 billion dollars is a lot of money, but if you think about some of the bailout of corporate america has received. it's also a lot of money. and so the people who are holding the student loan debt and will apply for the next month, in october, our average day americans, who need some relief. i think that this is good policy, and good politics. i also think that there is precedence, in terms of there was policy around 9/11, that allow for the department of education to craft some of this relief. the thing i find interesting about this lawsuit, it's not that the person doesn't want their loans forgiven, it's that they don't want to pay taxes on them. and so it feels a little hypocritical because when you follow lawsuit, my understanding for my law school education was that harm has to be actually induced. they are getting relief, they
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don't want to pay the $1,000 of the taxes. >> all right. >> alison she makes a good point, so if anybody doesn't want the student debt relief, they will be able to opt out if republicans do not want to pay the potential state tax on the forgiveness they can keep paying their loan? that is true >> if they do not want to get a relief on your loan, you don't have to >>. but to john's point, they have 1000% correct. the power of the purse is not with biden the president, it's what the congress. don't ask me, ask nancy pelosi. in 2021, president biden says does not have the authority to wipe out the student loan. she said so herself. now we are seeing a different tune. this lawsuit is the first of many that we will see. this particular plaintiff in this case, seeking relief, because he doesn't want to pay taxes on this. what we are going to see, the flood of lawsuits will be, i think, in response to what we saw in the letter from 22 republican governors, wrote a letter to president biden, right after this was announced,
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raising concern about whether this was unfair, unconstitutional, and illegal. they say that this is unfair to all the people in this country that chose not to take on a student loan, that did not go to college and decide to go to trade school. or others that work their way through college and paid off -- >> i understand your point. -- >> but they also see the points going on a debt that these people took on taxpayers across the country pay. >> let me say, that that is forgiven all the time, from government, people, military, all the time. that is forgiven. i'm with you, on nancy pelosi did say that. but, look, i don't have kids, i think that pay for public schools. i know people who don't have car that pay for public roads and whatever, libraries, that don't use that. so that argument about, it's unfair because other people have paid. that doesn't -- that rings hollow to me. but to her point, nancy pelosi did say that the power of the person is not what the president, it's with -- . -- that's not nancy pelosi, that's what the constitution.
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but biden and pelosi made this point before. that argument can be throwback in the face of this goes up in the supreme court. but to your point, look, we've fallen out of the habit of paying for things when parties push the priorities. when republicans push through the trump tax cut and cut corporate tax rate from 40% 21%. nobody was worried about how to pay for that. and i do think, you know, offering folks who make under 125,000 a year, who took on these loans, a little bit of relief, $10, 000, 20, 000, you have a pulse grant, that could make a transformative difference in their lives especially as all of a sudden, they're gonna have to paying back those loans starting january the 3rd. >> let's listen to this word about, this because biden gets accused of a bigger spending all the time. right? on his watch, on president biden's watch, the president has got down one trillion dollars. doesn't that give him some leeway to push this plan? >> it, does it's a matter of how you want people to experience life. i wonder -- we are gonna see a whole lot of
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lawsuits about this student -- loan >> we agree on that! >> and the challenging part is that the courts are pretty stacked with conservative justices and so, it might not fare well. you can't, when people run for election, the voters pick. if you don't like a policy because you're like, i don't like, it that's not enough to take it to court. the real harm, i actually want people who are not benefiting from this policy, i.e., me, maybe you, maybe you, but i'm not experiencing harm on my taxes, my taxes are not going up, i might not think that the policy is great. that's the mare america, that's democracy. and joe biden is doing this. applying went is down, gas prices are down. unemployment is down. >> unemployment is down? unemployment is down. >> unlike lightweight, what's going. on >> -- but we also have to look at inflationary period and we have had a tremendous stock market bump down last week, when he was celebrating -- >> that's all true --
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>> aren't people, starting this is not a democratic republican thing, regardless of your political strife. if you have kids, your kids will be starting, right? and you have to pay for college. the cost of college is extremely expensive! and people are starting their lives with huge burden. so on top of the inflation that you talk about, on top of the high gas prices, on top of the grocery prices, they are bird into a possibly burden in the future, with this debt. because we have gone through inflation, we've always go through these same things. do you understand why? points >> i absolutely do. which brings up another point that president biden has talked about as part of this, is to meet with universities across the country and work on reducing the cost of higher education. that hasn't been discussed. and if this is such a wonderful proposal, and so many people are for this, he would have gone to the democrats s and republblicans and try to had ths as a bipartisan issue, and pass instead doing it through execututive action. >> but i mean, here's the thing, he should do that, he will do
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that, but i want to see republicans actually get on board with that. before i just believthat they will do that. and we should have an economy thatuts his foot on main stre then washing. this ia middle class policy. and that's a positive thin >> to be connued. thank you, all i appreciated. >> so we are tracking hurrane, in set to slam into florida's west coast forecast from the cnn weather center next.
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we are tracking massive and powerful hurricane ian as it pushes closer to florida's west coast. let's get the very latest from cnn meteorologist tom seder. tom? >> don, giving you the very latest from the -- center of ian's 110 miles south
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of naples. it has dropped in its track once again to the south. so, that means we need to now, kind of, increase the time now for landfall. instead of maybe 4 to 7, this could be early afternoon. and unfortunately, that track, which looked like it could be somewhere between angleton and venice, is now down towards charlotte harbour. terrible news for everyone who lives in the waterway here, all coastal waterways, in let's. that surge is going to be crazy. this area, life-threatening from naples to beyond. tropical storm force winds by 8 am are going to be north of tampa all the way to the east coast. this storm, the acorn that has become the oak tree, the first hurricane to affect mainland u.s.. and now, a major hurricane after landfall in western cuba, power is out in havana. category three, still thinking it could make it, possibly to category 4 status. but the eye is getting larger. and the storm is getting wider. tropical storm force winds here in yellow, and you've got hurricane-force winds here in red. and watch how it moves through
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the area and expands. the entire peninsula will experience, not just tropical storm force winds, but millions will be hit, of course, by these hurricane-force winds. the bigger issue, however, really, is going to be the surge. this is the life-threatening surge. it is expected to be the worst-case scenario around tampa bay. tomorrow, it's going to be a completely different story. winds coming in from around the system will push the water out of the bay. it will be interesting to see the pictures. this was all lit up with bright colors, expecting the worst. we could see record low levels in the bay and every inlet and canal. however, to the south, it is worst-case scenario. from port charlotte all the way up the peace river, already in areas of the peace river has seen doubled the average rainfall in the last couple of weeks. they are already at flood stage now. but it extends far to the south. this is going to do some massive damage to this area. now, we've got dry air though,
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trying to come in through the southwest. that's good news for rain totals to the south. but it's bad news to the north, where convergence is occurring with a trough. that is going to squeeze out tremendous amounts of f rain easily ten, 20, would not be surprised to seeee 30-inch totas from areas around brenton, -- , up through orlando all the way to the coastline multi faceted storm, one for the books. and again, so good to hear that so many have been moving to shelters and evacuate for the coastline. it's gonnae a rough go for the next couple of days. agn, landfall sometime early afternoon, don? >> tom sater, thank you so much. and thank you for watching everyone. our coverage continues.
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