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this belong to? was this a grand parent who lived on one of these boats, so it's really something. we went out this morning, we tried to get out to fort myers beach which we heard had been wiped out, 90% of that community we heard reports that it was gone. they still hadn't opened it up. the sheriff's department was sort of turning everybody away. just where we were standing between here and there, here's a little sample of what you see just driving down the road after hur cain ian. these are shore birds and pell cans walking across wreckage in what used to be san carlos harbor. it's seen better days as you can see. this is the destructive path of ian. it came raking across here. a lot of the businesses here of course have to do with recreation here in paradise. kayak rentals, bait shops
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completely blown over by the wind. but what's completely striking about this spot is the boats that have been tossed across the street here. we have a bit of a bottleneck of human activity because this is the road to fort myers beach, and the sheriff's department is not letting anybody on. if you haven't seen any pictures of fort myers beach, this is why. there is a first and former law in florida that's suppose today give us access when there's a state of emergency, but you got to feel for the sheriff's deputies just trying to manage the crowds here that are piling in. you've got journalists, you've got first responders, you have residents who are just curious coming by. but this is what i wanted to show you. this is across san carlos boulevard. and just get a load of this. just wanton, indiscriminate
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destruction. but that is nothing compared to what we saw then when we came back here to fort myers and put the drawn up over the yacht base here. this is around joe's crab shack if you know this area right near downtown. and look at just the utter destruction of all these really expensive boats, small boats, a lot of folks live on these in this harbor there, and i just met somebody who became what they are calling the florence nighton gail of the storm. what's your name? may i call you ella? >> yes. >> good to meet you. i was talking to one of the old salts here, the captain who's a little camera shy, and he was telling me this amazing story about he was prepared to ride out with his dog and pet rabbit and everything, and when this big yacht started slamming into his, he was ready to get out and
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save them. you saw him and invited him into your apartment. >> well, he was soaking wet with his animals, and he was worried about everyone else. to try to run out in the water to save everyone else, we had to like stop him and a lot of people in the building wanted to help everyone because there was so much water and so much going on, and there was no help. >> this captain tells me he's lived here for years. he rarely even sails the thing anymore. but you just moved here. how long have you lived here? >> just a couple of months. >> sure. but you didn't know any of these people. you were just doing the kind good samaritan thing. >> i mean, at this time with everything going on, it's nobody's fault. it's mother nature. we have to come together to help. >> what was it like for you riding this out? >> scary. to see all the water come up and see how beautiful fort myers is and for it to be demolished like
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this, it's really sad. there's a lot of people who lost their homes, and we're not even close to starting to rebuild. >> you obviously have friends and family in the community, they must be worried about livelihoods and insurance claims and all of that. >> everything. >> tell me what the discretion is like. >> a lot of my friends from work, there's no home to go home to, they live out in sanibel and cape, and everything is demolished. we got together today to talk about what's next, and we don't know what's next. we can clean up as much as we can, but how do we rebuild? >> right, right. the captain at the end was telling me this tight community was cleaning up in ways that no first responders have. you have all these new friends now as a result. >> i know. >> you think that can hold as this sort of drags on? >> oh, yeah. i believe it because like we've
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just -- each people from on the streets now, a lot of people are talking to each other, where you from, where do you live, we're all trying to help people out. >> does this give you pause about living close to the ocean here? >> no. >> not at all. this is the price of admission. >> everywhere you go, there's going to be bad weather. this is the worst. i'm not going to leave. i love florida. >> we didn't have time to give her an ear piece, laura. but do you have any questions. >> just thinking about your first statement about the idea of regular people being first responders. i wonder have there been any thought from their employers or anything? has there been any help offered to figure out what the next steps can be? >> have you gotten any help from employers or anybody about what the next step might be for you? >> i work at top golf, so my job has been really good. they brought us together and fed us and gave us ice, and they're
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welcoming us back to get other stuff we might need. >> that's fantastic. >> for sure. >> in terms of fema or insurance companies -- >> we haven't heard anything. >> do you plan to pursue any of that? >> absolutely. >> was your home damaged? >> yeah, there was water that came into the building. we still don't have water in a lot of the ac units too. >> the thing that struck me today when i thought about and i was watching this elderly woman being helped down the stairs at our hotel because the elevators don't work and many of those folks of the same demographic -- i think the coconut just fell. how those vulnerable folks don't have elevators and what a huge burden that must be. >> big time. we were running up and down the stairs getting things they need in their apartment because they live high up. that was tough. we definitely got some leg muscles during this storm. >> all right. well, if there's a heaven, you're getting in.
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>> thanks. >> it was great to meet you. >> nice to meet you too. >> thanks for giving us some hope. mr. rogers taught us that when you see heavy stuff on tv, look for the helpers. we looked for that with the cajun navy. another example right here. >> thank you so much. i want to go to myrtle beach as well tonight. and thank you to ella for being a part of this and helping us to understand what happened and really from the perspective of people who were forced to be first responders. nick, what is it like for you over there in mirlt beach tonight? it's dark, so obviously there's so much against you. >> reporter: and listening to bill's reporting, you can just tell, this is an area that was spared when you compare it to florida. there was definitely significant damage when it comes to the piers here. cherry grove pier here, a beloved pier here was basically
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demolished. what really surprised a lot of people here, including the locals who have been through so many category one, two, three, four hurricanes here in the area is the storm surge. at one point, we saw swells of waves about 20 feet high. we also saw storm surge at about 7 feet. there was concern about coastal flooding. the river levels were low here to the point where there was not so much concern among the emergency managers. the most significant damage, though, happening to those pooers throughout the community. right now, it is trying to get back to normal. power has been restored to major chunks that were out. there is a bright spot in that the emergency management has basically disassembled its emergency operation center. it's gone back to normal. we are still seeing crews come back from a very long day of work trying to clear fallen trees and restore power to this
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community. >> thank you so much. unbelievable what we're seeing and just the continuation of the power of this storm and hurricane. i want to bring in now, the sheriff of charleston county, south carolina. sheriff, thank you for being here. i mean, we are getting video right now into cnn of some of the streets, and they are completely flooded in places like charleston. can you help give us a sense of what things are like there now? >> yeah. thank you. first i want to just offer our thoughts and prayers continue to go out to our neighbors and friends to the south in florida who suffered much more devastating effects from ian. we're used to water here. we have been called the low country for a reason. we did get some water on the streets downtown and a lot of the lower places, but it was not nearly as bad as it could have been. >> i mean, i'm so glad to think about the fact that it wasn't as bad. but from everyone looking at
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this and thinking the flooding in the streets and no matter how used to the water it is, there's still a lot of potential danger that can happen from this storm. what is the biggest concern now, sheriff, at this hour? >> i just spoke to our folks out on the road, and our biggest concern still remains the trees falling in the roadway. the breeze has stopped, it's slowed down considerably. we've had a lot of water. and with that, the roots in the ground get -- it softens the ground, and we have these massive trees, and when they fall, they're unforgiving and take everything in its way. that's always a concern that the trees can get blown over and uprooted and fall into people's houses and into the road. >> i have been to charleston, it's a beautiful place, and thinking about the very things that make it charming now being a source of danger given what
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happened to the water. how long do you think it might take to get a full picture of even the devastation in your county. it's dark right now. you got to wait until it's a little safer to go out and look at the scope of it. do you have a sense of what it will take to understand the scope of the damage there? >> yes. about 2:00 this afternoon, we were able to allow our units to the west and south to go out and start assessing the damage. it's very minor. most of it was trees. there was a lot of standing water, obviously. and as that storm moved to the north towards polly's island and mirting beach, georgetown area, as it moved, we were able to release more people to the north part of our county. so we've got a pretty good idea of what the normal roads that flood, did flood. again, we have been having these king tides, and they happened a
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little after noon today, it will happen again at midnight. so midnight will really be the telling hour of when we get water in the roads again, but it will be tidal. for the most part, it's receding. >> thank you for keeping us informed. midnight, she said again, another time to think about that. all is not yet calm, so please continue to be vigilant. thank you, sheriff, for your time. i'm glad to know the damage has not been that extensive. that just tells you the power of hurricane ian if what we're seeing in your streets is essentially the glass half full. it's unbelievable the devastation that's happening in florida. >> if this storm would have shifted ten to 15 miles to the east, it would have been a different picture in excess of the six-foot variants we get on a tide. we were very fortunate, and we are going to continue to monitor the tides as they come in tonight, but i think the worst
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is behind us. >> i certainly hope so. thank you so much. >> thank you so much. >> and thinking about what comes next and what's ahead and sort of the logistics of what it means to start over, the logistics of rebuilding, well, it includes insurance. that's the truth of the matter. and homeowner's insurance in florida, i it's very expensive, and many homeowners don't even have flood insurance. why is that? and is it smart to rebuild in the most vulnerable parts of the state? we're going to get the answers to those questions next. pretty . ♪ ♪
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florida governor ron desantis says the state along with fema is working to help people with their insurance claims if their homes were damaged or destroyed by hurricane ian. >> make sure if you are looking at claims on your property, you document that, take photos, make sure you have it. we want you to be able to be made whole as quickly as possible, and it's our view that these claims need to be paid very quickly so that people can get back on their feet. >> but fully compensating flood victims is actually a tricky
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business, especially in the state of florida. many homeowners there don't carry flood insurance. the washington post reports that more than 400,000 floridians have actually lost their coverage due to insurers that went under or policy increases. you add that to the growing population, climate crisis, state law that is leave insurance companies more vulnerable to lawsuits, and now damage from hurricane ian have reached more than $40 billion. one expert tells the post that, quote, florida is the most risky piece of land in the world for insurance because of catastrophe standpoint. i want to bring in mark stewart. mark, thinking of this and what it takes to have the logistics. we know the all mighty dollar of rebuilding are a whole different ball game. because getting insurance in
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florida was already difficult and expensive. but why is that? why do major insurance companies, why is it so difficult to do work in florida, and what options do people have then? >> as they say in buzz, it's all about location, location, location. and as one analyst pointed out, many of these big insurance companies are reluctant to have a big presence in florida because of this hurricane threat, because of this tropical storm threat. at the end of the day, high risk, high payouts. it's not necessarily an attractive business proposition. so in florida, a lot of people there are going to have to depend on smaller, private insurance companies, six of which this year became insolvent, basically, they can't pay up. and there's also a state program. but options are very limited, and that can result in very high costs and very few options. >> i mean, yeah, the less of the supply and the higher the
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demand, the higher they can push the cost of doing it, and not even having a payout in the end possibly. and people may not realize this, but damage from flood waters is not typically covered by homeowner's insurance, and most homeowners only get flood insurance if they live in a designated flood plain and only if their insurance requires it. i wonder how people will even begin to be made whole again. >> the simple answer is they may not. for people that have flood damage, water damage from this storm and they don't have flood insurance, the government most likely will come forward with some assistance, but it's not nearly as comprehensive as if you had flood insurance. again, flood insurance covers typically the water damage. homeowner's insurance is going to cover damage from things like wind or a fallen branch.
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let's take this moment to perhaps learn something. as we have seen, topography, the terrain of our communities has been changing. i can't tell you how many times in my career i've covered flooding in areas where they see these 100 year floods, even 500 year floods, no matter where you live, this may be a time to have a discussion with your insurance provider to see if what you had in the past is going to be sufficient today. it's a really real threat. >> i mean, when you think about that, and again, the reassessment, very, very key. i am wondering now at a time like this, the cost of insurance you talk about already really high, the insurance market already in a bit of a crisis, and i read that florida homeowners are paying nearly triple the national average. so i'm wondering what will hurricane ian then do to this market? >> there is a lot of concern that it's going to cause premiums, especially for people in florida to rise because at
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the end of the day, we have these business agreements, our insurance policies, and they have to be -- they have to be met. they have to be fortified if you will. one thing which i found very interesting, as i mentioned, there are six companies that became insolvent. well, just like banks, there's an insurance program that if an insurance company goes under for lack of better words, there is a security program in place, there is some guarantee that homeowners will get some compensation. but that costs money. how is that achieved, where does this money come from? typically, higher premiums. so it's a statewide issue for so many reasons. >> unbelievable. i mean, i've learned a lot about this and just thinking about what, how, when, i mean all the questions that are lingering. we had earlier today on the program a resident in fort myers asking that very question of how do you even begin to rebuild,
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and this does not sound as promising. thank you for your time, nice talking to you. well, texas governor greg abbott and his challenger are facing off t tonight as we spea in their first and probably only debate and there were some fire woshs. we'll take a look next.
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republican texas governor greg abbott and democratic challenger beto o'rourke facing off tonight in their first and likely only debate.
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excuse me. i haven't coughed all day. >> it's been 18 weeks since their kids have been killed, and not a thing has changed in this state to make it any less likely that any other child will meet the same fate. all we need is action, and the only person standing in our way is the governor of the state of texas. >> well, joining me now and of course my voice is leaving, cnn commentators maria cardona and alice stewart. you know what, let's go to a quick break, ladies -- oh, it's back. thank you, voice. i'm only on live television on friday night. alice, to you first, abbott doesn't want to raise the age to buy assault-style rifles, and he's against red flag laws, so i want to know how this is going to sit with voters. what do you think? >> well, first of all, bless
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your heart, and get your voice back in order. here's the key thing we saw on this debate tonight was that governor abbott was very strong on an issue which is of top concern for people in texas, and that is taking steps to reduce gun violence. he did so by continuing to support law enforcement and work on ways that we can curve gun violence, and he focused specifically on making sure we address the mental health component of this. but he also with his experience is a former attorney general, he understands the legal issues and the legal consequences of taking too strong measures with regards to access to guns. so he's taking that into consideration. one of the things i noted tonight is the reason why we see governor abbott with the real politics average of plus eight because he had top job creation, strong on education, top tier
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research, and he wants to continue his efforts to secure the border and bring jobs back to texas. >> and again, gun violence top of mind. this is where uvalde took place, just to think about that, and this being very much fresh on the minds. abbott first praised the response and said it could have been worse, and then he said he was misled. tonight, o'rourke said abbott should have been held responsible for the officers who improperly responded to the shooting. >> i think right now, texans will agree with o'rourke that abbott was a complete failure not just tonight but on the issue of gun violence. but specifically on this, it's not just the massacre in uvalde. it's the massacre in el paso. it's the massive killings that
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are going on -- in fact, two days ago, two migrants were killed, and greg abbott refuses to do anything about it. during the debate, they showed a 10-year-old girl asking, begging abbott to raise the age limit where people could obtain assault rifles, and he has refused to do so. what i heard tonight on gun violence and on so many other issues, laura was platitudes, platitudes, failure, excuses to do absolutely nothing. and the people of texas are listening, the latino community that has been absolutely hurt, many killed because of abbott's reckless rhetoric and actions, they are going to hold him accountable in november. >> and governor abbott was trying to call o'rourke on the position of abortion. he falsely claimed he wants to allow abortions until birth.
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i want you to listen to hear how beto o'rourke responded to that. >> i never said that, and no one thinks that in the state of texas. he's saying this because he signed the most extreme abortion ban in america. no exception for rape or incest. it begins in a state that is at the epi center of a mortality crisis. i will fight to make sure that every woman macks her own decisions about her own body, her own future, and her own healthcare. >> i want you to weigh in a second alice, but maria, they're saying this election is about reproductive freedom. is o'rourke right? >> he's absolutely right, laura. we are seeing it in state after state after state. massive mobilization, massive registration to go vote of young women, black women, latina women, suburban republican women
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who understand that this right that women had enjoyed for 50 years, no one has any right to take that away from us. so beto rightly put this within the field of greg abbott taking away privacy, taking away freedom, taking away liberties, taking away our ability to decide our own reproductive futures, and when you look at the diverse communities in texas, reproduct i have rights is right under that column of healthcare because if you are in a diverse community, the only place where you can go get healthcare are places like planned parenthood, and healthcare, by the way, is massively within the realm of reproductive rights. so you combine those two, and it shows you just how much greg abbott has no clue the right that he has taken away from women in one of the most agree jous laws in the country.
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it's going to hurt him politically. beto is right that this is going to be a huge focus for the election. >> i want to let alice jump in here because it's 4:30 in the morning in norway and she's shaking her head. >> bless my friend maria in advocating for this issue. but one thing that's crystal clear, i wish we could play a clip on what beto said what limits should be on this issue. that's a key component. that's the question the people of texas want answered. and as for abortion and how this impacts voters in texas, the key issue for voters in poll after poll have shown this, number one is boarder, number two is the economy, and they trust abbott to handle those issues better than beto o'rourke. they look at beto as someone who will address that issue better
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to their liking. beto's policies are just not in line with the people of texas. when we're looking at issues that are critical and top of mind for voters, being strong on the border, securing the border, and the experience that greg abbott has done so far, that's i believe the issue along with the economy that's going to continue to sway voters and get them out to the polls more so than abortion. >> the issue -- >> i want to hear first on one other issue because it's hard to think about governor abbott and this discussion without thinking about his policies for immigration. let's hear from him because he was asked about texas, their state-funded program to bus migrants to democratic cities. listen to this, and i'll have your side, maria. >> they need relief, and thus began the process of bussing migrants to cities that
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self-identified as sanctuary cities. >> now, o'rourke called this a gimmick, but immigration is a pressing issue, it's an emotional issue in texas and beyond. i wonder, do you think, maria, that the bussing of the migrants, would that work in abbott's favor in a place like texas? >> i don't think it will, laura, and it's certainly not going to work for republicans nationally either. i'll tell you why. when greg abbott puts migrants on buses, he's portraying how much he hates people coming over here looking for better lives. these are migrants that are coming here seeking asylum, availing themselves of something that is available to them under immigration law. when greg abbott treats these migrants like trash, he is telegraphicing, he is signaling to the racists, the -- his
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rhetoric, his actions, laura, betray not just complete and total disdain for migrants and hatred for migrants but a complete ignorance of what asylum is and the solutions that would come to bear that everyone wants but he's absolutely refused to come to the table to try to solve. that's not just him. that's most republicans who always say secure the board, secure the border, the border is open, the border is not open. republicans completely refuse because they don't care and they don't understand the issue of immigration. >> what's your last word, alice? go ahead. >> greg abbott also pointed out that democratic mayors in el
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paso and democratic leaders in some cities in texas have done the exact same thing bussing migrants to different places -- >> not the same thing. >> it's the same thing. here's the thing. when you have people like beto o'rourke and our vice-president kamala harris who think our border is secure, that's what we have a problem because it's not secure, and fortunately for the people of texas, abbott wants to do more to secure the border but also to keep his state safe. >> that's not what he's doing. he's wasting taxpayer r money. >> what's beautiful l about thi is i know the two of you a are frieiends. if we were in ththe green room, the conversation would go on. ladies, it's so nice to see both of you. >> thanks laura. >> we'll be right back. ine or p. tell your doctor if your crohn's disease symptoms develop or worsen. serious allergic reaction may occur. best move i've ever made. ask your dermatologist about cosentyx®.
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the previous segment, a disturbing story from texas, two migrants who were gunned down while merely shopping for water at a reservoir. one is dead. and tonight, they tell a pair of brothers including a prison warden are now under arrest. court documents suggest that one of them is changing their story. >> reporter: laura, two west texas men are facing possible manslaughter charges for shooting at a group of migrants who were drinking water in a remote area of western teb text just east of el paso. michael and mark shepherd are accused of shooting at these migrants. the migrants told investigators these two men had driven to where they were in a pickup truck, they hid away in some brush, and according to the affidavit, one of the men who has been identified as michael
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shepherd, the driver of the truck, yelled at them to, quote, come out, you sons of bitches, we are told one of the migrants was killed at the scene. a second migrant, a woman was taken to a hospital in el paso where he's being treated for her wounds. investigators were able to track down the truck later, and they questioned mike shepherd who didn't offer them much, but according to the affidavit, they say the two men were in that area hunting for various animals. investigators said they had changed their stories a number of times as to which animals they were hunting for in that area but did acknowledge being in that area at the time. the shooting was reported on tuesday evening. now, we have try today reach out to the brothers who are currently in custody, but it is not clear to whether or not they have retained an attorney at this point. but investigators say that both
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men could possibly be facing manslaughter charges. there are some immigrant rights activists wondering why these men are not facing murder charges at this point. but this is still early on in the process as well. we've also learned that michael shepherd, the man accused of pulling the trigger, also worked as the warden of a private jail facility that contracted with immigration and customs enforcement to house migrants going through the immigration process. we reached out to the company that employs mike shepherd. we were simply told mr. shepherd no longer works for the company. so both of those men remain in custody, and we are waiting to hear more information on the migrant that survived this shooting. but a troubling case emerging from texas. >> that's unbelievable. thank you so much. well, the miami dolphins quarterbacack was listed as
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miami dolphins quarterback f tua tagovailoa was taken off the field for head injuries less than a week after an injury in another game referred to as a back injury. tua was listed questionable to play before last night's game. i want to show you this hit. i got to warn you, it is tough to see and graphic.
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look at his hands, the contortion you're seeing at that moment. joining me is donte stallworth and christine brennan. thank you both for being here. it's difficult to see. christine, i'll start with you. the way tua tagovailoa's hands curled up is referred to as quote fencing response, a very clear sign of traumatic brain injury. why would he have been allowed to play? >> great yes, laura, donte, great to be with you. it's appalling. it's stunning. it's astonishing. don't take my ward ford for it, astonishing is the world john h harbaugh said of many years of coaching, that's what he said today talking about it. the video is everything. the pictures are everything and
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then when you have laura, the coach of the dolphins saying well, there is nothing serious except for a concussion, have they learned nothing? this is -- it's -- you know, as you said, it was just really four days between these two videos that people have seen over and over again and thank goodness for the video. thank goodness we can see this and see how badly the n frks ll handled this. this young man has his whole life of football and a life afterwards. many wonder my goodness what does it take to have someone off the field. he should have been off the field the first time. >> donte, you played in the league. i'm wondering when you saw that, what is your reaction to what we saw last night? they're playing it again. the curling of the hands is so uncomfortable to watch. what is your reaction looking at it? >> yeah, it's a dangerous thing. being a former player, i have the ability to be able to look back and think about the times when i felt like i may have had
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a little what we used to call dings and later learned those were actually concussions. so the language and the research and the studies and the peer review stud ies have brought to light concussions playing not just in the nfl but football in particular and being a former player, a lot of guys will sit up here and tell you that, you know, whenever someone is shaking their head, they're not shaking their head because their back is injured or back is injured. they're trying to shake out the clouds and fog and that's due to a brain injury. so, you know, it's really danger ro ous to keep him out there after he came back and played on sunday and to have him play three or four days later, there has to be accountability for that. there are protocols in place but they failed tua and his family and the rest of the nfl players that play in the nfl. >> the nfl player's association is looking at this through different lenses, legally and beyond. i wonder from your expectative,
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christine, who -- whose responsibility is this? is it the team? is it the idea of a player or league approach to the covid protocol? >> laura -- >> a concussion protocol? >> excuse me. >> that's okay. it would be the team and doctor and there is also independent observers supposed to be watching all of these, the team doctor makes the final call. it goes to the coach, maccdanie mike mcdaniel. you say hey, we can't chance it and it's also, i think a mind set and donte can speak to this better than i. the mind set that even now after what we've heard, the billion-dollar settlesettlement and concussion movie and the horror stories and the brain trouble of the suicides, everything that this is still the mind set to get back out there and play. that's the first thought of all these people. >> donte, do you agree. is there a pressure to feel as though we can't speak up, even now?
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>> i wouldn't say that there is pressure they can't speak up but definitely, it's just innate. there is this desentesitizing b the players and league to push away the injuries and, you know, one thing that we've learned as players, we're going to want to play regardless of what happens. we can have a broken leg, broken arm, poked out eye. we'll want to play regardless. those protocols are in place to prototect the players from themselves and you can't e expe a player to make rational decisions whwhen he had his bra injured the way tutua did. therere has to be amendments or something to the protocol and accountability. >> thank you both. we wish the best to tua. we'll be right back.
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