loretta lynn is survived by four of her six children. she was 90 years old. what an incredible life. grieving the death of a loved one, living without them is something we'll all face at some point. i'm exploring it in a personal way in a new podcast called "all there is." just point to the qr code to listen to it. the fourth episode will be available tomorrow. i talk with actress molly shannon about the devastating deaths of her mother and little sister and cousin in a car crash. her father was driving the car when she was 4 years old. it changed the course of her life. it's a powerful conversation. i hope you'll listen. i hope it helps. the news continues with kasie hunt and "cnn tonight." >> enjoying your podcast, anderson. thank you so much. i'm kasie hunt and this is "cnn tonight." we are five weeks out from the midterm elections. republicans appear to be making gains in some key senate races,

which we'll zoom in on in just a moment. but i want to focus on this. we are learning over and over again this election cycle that nominating strong candidates does matter if a political party wants to quwin an election, it matters a lot. but the rules may have changed. with voters willing perhaps to tolerate things that they just wouldn't put up with in the past. herschel walker is about to test this hypothesis. he is locked in a tight race in georgia against democratic incumbent rafael warnock. walker has openly backed a national ban on abortions with no exceptions, that's rape, incest, the life of the mother, no exceptions, and he has campaigned on an anti-abortion platform. and now he is denying allegations that he paid for a woman he dated to have an abortion more than a decade ago. the claim was reported by "the

daily beast." we should underscore cnn has not independently verified the allegations. "the daily beast" report claims that walker paid a woman to terminate a pregnancy that she claims they conceived together in 2009. "the daily beast" says the accuser provided a receipt from the abortion clinic she went to. she provided an image of a check from walker reimbursing her for the brother, along with a get well card that he allegedly sent her with the check. this is supposedly that card with his very recognizable signature on it. as for herschel walker, he is vigorously denying that any of this happened. >> i never asked anyone to get an abortion. i never paid for an abortion and it's a lie. >> this follows many other scandals that have rocked the republicans' campaign. three women, including his ex-wife and an ex-girlfriend, have accused him of threatening them.

he also acknowledged fathering multiple children with multiple women that he wasn't married to. one of his children has been trying to raise a giant red flag to conservatives. >> he has four kids, four different women, wasn't in the house raising one of them. he was out having sex with other women. do you care about family values? okay, i'm done, done. everything has been a lie. don't act like you're a family man. y'all should care about that, conservatives. >> that's his son, christian walker. the national republican senatorial committee say they stand with walker, and donald trump said the same thing. essentially he said, quote, walker is handgun slandered and maligned. herschel has properly denied the charges against him and i have no doubt he is correct. walker's campaign is now scrambling to contain the fallout, but 199 heard that earlier today his campaign manager told staff that

fundraising was surging after the nominee denied these allegations . that aide also apparently brought up trump's infamous "access hollywood" videotape which surfaced weeks before the 2016 election to try and underscore that, quote, trump stale made it to the white house. so can walker end up on capitol hill after this? let's take it to our table to cnn political creditors marie cardona, ron brownstein, and scott jennings. thank you for being here. ron, let me start with you as the reporter at this table. >> just back from georgia too. >> just back from georgia. so tell us what you learned while you were there and what impact do you think this is going going to have on the race. >> these kind of scandals are not going to create people's support like they have in the past. congressional elections, including senate elections are

becoming increasingly parliamentary elections. so it would be surprising to see walker's support collapse any more than it would have been to see -- >> but that's the point. not necessarily going to see him collapse, but it won't take much to tip this race. in almost all public polling, he is trailing, and he needs momentous down the stretch, i think, most people agree to get over the top. in particular, warnock is probably right at the door of the level of support that he needs among suburban white-collar voters. probably needs 44% for college-educated whites. >> especially women. >> he's polling around 43%. this is the kind of thing that's going to make it tough for walker to get the votes.

having said that, this could easily go to a runoff with control over the senate once again at stake. >> just unbelievable. so scott jennings, let me put this to you. a big part of -- and this is what his son was alleging, is that there is hypocrisy going on, especially because walker has taken quite frankly one of the most extreme positions of any republican senate candidate on how abortion should be dealt with nationally. here's how walker has planed his position on abortion policy. >> i'm a christian. i believe in life. i've always believed in life. no exception in my mind. i believe in life. >> no exceptions? >> no exceptions. >> no exception for incest, rape, for the life of the mother, even the reddest states are implementing at least have something in there that accounts for the life or health of the mother. how do republican voters justify this in their minds? >> republican voters are worried about issues beyond abortion. i mean, this is one of the hallmarks of this campaign cycle is republican voters and i think a lot of independent voters are more concerned about inflation, economy, immigration, and crime.

that's really the campaign -- >> they're not concerned about hypocrisy from their politicians? >> i don't know. we played a lot of video of herschel walker's family to the extent. we haven't played raphael warnock's life who had a lot of things to say. >> in fairness, she has not said that he put a gun to her head. >> in fairness, she has said he's an actor, that the whole thing is an acts. you got two guys that have family -- is it? >> i think we can make -- >> why is it different? >> a gun to a head? >> and in an interview with his wife where they talked about his mental health zblulgz and this kind of hypocrisy, yes. >> i don't think so because he and his wife did an interview together about his mental health struggles. what he has had to overcome and it has been, i think, unfairly clipped and made it appear as though he was making an allegation against him when she was appearing with him to talk about his struggles. >> on that point, though, we're all focused on the abortion allegation, but kind of lost in

the sauce, his son tweeted last night they had to move six times in six months out of fear of him committing violence against them. that is something, you know, when people say -- rick scott says it's a democratic smear machine. is his son, who is a conservative, a part of the smear machine? >> i don't know. here's the thing. i agree with one thing you said, that most voters -- and i think this is true of people in both parties, are looking at this through the lens of what does it mean for the country. >> right, >> here's the argument that walker could make to overcome this. if you think joe biden and the democrats are doing a great job and you're happy with what you see at the grocery store and you're happy with the country being off in the ditch, by all means, vote for warnock who will enable all of it. if you want a check and balance, go in a different direction. >> but the question is, in a state that is 10,000-vote state -- >> true story. >> is there a united states senate seat, this is not a small

position, sorry. >> like, we were talking about roy moore. it did not create support when these really disturbing revelations came out about him, but he didn't win in the end, even in alabama, which is a much redder state than georgia is now. the question really isn't whether this wipes the slate. it's whether it is just enough of a thumb on the scale in a race that is essentially, you know, very close to begin with. >> because it is very close, it will be one on the margins. scott, you're right. i think that republicans will absolutely come to his aid, they will not abandon him. the rnsc has already said that. i think he is actually making that coalition stronger because he can try to say they're trying to smear me. but we have not talked about the underlying, what i believe is not being well-counted, the massive mobilization of women who are already pissed off about

abortion, and the economy and those issues will continue to be front and center. but when you telling more than 50% of the electorate that they don't have rights today that they have enjoyed for 50 years, that is a massive mobilization that i don't think any poll is capturing. >> monmouth survey this week, number one issue by far, inflation. number seven, abortion. >> like i said, i don't think -- >> the bucket for the pain that people are feeling right now in their everyday lives is bigger than if bucket you just laid out. >> the question for me -- >> it can't be measured. >> hold on, hold on. in a house race, i'm willing to buy your argument, right? people are just saying i'm voting with my tribe. in a senate contest -- herschel walker is one of the most famous people -- you could argue he was famous across the country, one of the most famous people in georgia, undeniably. he preaches at martin luther

king jr.'s church and they are choosing between two people on these margins that ron is talking about. how do you think this is going to matter to those people? >> i totally agree. it is an extremely close race. a few thousand votes here or there. i will just say people are hurting, the pain is real, and the average republican is -- in a worst-case scenario, i think the average republican is looking at this saying, well, herschel walker paid for one abortion, raphael warnock wants to pay for all of them. >> and at the last possible minute. >> the problem with that is as there is a pro-choice majority in the state. >> that's right. >> even if every republican says that, if enough independents say this is someone i just can't abide in the senate, it's not enough for walker. and the real reason republicans -- >> you want abortion to be the number one issue so bad? >> final word. >> you also have the trump effect, which is trump got elected in 2016, but then you saw a huge backlash from independent, moderate suburban women who did not want that kind of not just hypocrisy, but,

frankly, misogyny, which is what you can underscore is what walker has shown throughout his life. >> but there are just enough of them. >> the women of buck head, atlanta, is my calculation, and they are important. maria, thank you so much for being with us today. your voice was very much in the mix, so we really appreciate it. ron and scott are going to stick around. ahead, donald trump takes his fight over the documents seized at his mar-a-lago home to the supreme court. his emergency request and what it could mean for his battle with the doj, up next. tub proc, there's no mess or stress. bath fitter. it just fits. visit bathfitter.com to book your free consultation. ♪ ♪ at fidelity, your dedicated advisor will help you create a comprehensive wealth plan for your full financial picture. with the right balance ofisk and reward. so you can enjoy more . this is the planning effect.

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separate from a special master's review. trump's attorneys are now asking the high court to ensure the special master gets to review those items. it's just the latest instance in which trump is involving justices in his investigations. remember, 3 of the 6 conservative justices were presume appointees. scott jennings is back with us as well. shannon, let me start can you wu on the legal stuff. what is trump trying to accomplish with this request? >> honestly, he's trying to accomplish further delay. he wants to slow the whole thing down and he's making a very narrow jurisdictional argument, which is that the 11th circuit lacked the authority to review this order. it's a little convoluted. they claim that the district court judge didn't really stay anything because she didn't tell the justice department or the government to do anything.

merely to let the special master review documents. but my question would be, how is the special master going to get documents if they don't give it to him? it's kind of convoluted. >> obviously the court can decide whether or not they want to take this up. they don't have to. clarence thomas has requested that the doj responds to trump's filing by 5:00 next tuesday. i mean, how do you think court is going to respond to this? >> i think they're going to respond by upholding the 11th circuit. trump has not had this sort of record of success with scotus as he thinks he deserves to have. this is legal technical issue that they don't rule on the basis of a cultural issue, religious beliefs. and remember, they're going up against an attorney general who's a former court of appeals judge, as well as the 11th circuit court of appeals. i think supreme court will uphold the 11th circuit. >> so myles, trump's team in this filing also talked about

the former president's declassification powers, which, of course, have come up and have ban periodic issue. the filing says trump was president of the united states when the documents bearing classification marking were delivered in palm beach. his authority to classify or declassify information bearing on national security flowed from this constitutional investment of power in the president. but of course they are still refusing to say whether or not he actually did declare them declassified. like, what is going on? >> i think that's what gets to this order. i mean, he's right this is narrow, but i don't think that means it's insignificant. why did they want the court to rule this way? it's been very evident that trump's defense attorneys want access to the documents. why? because the documents are likely what are going to lead to an indictment. they need the documents to mount the defense that they want to mount. are they going to get them? depends on what the supreme court says and what's going to happen after the supreme court makes a decision.

but this is going to be, make no mistake, a document-by-document fight. each of those potential indictments is going to depend on each of those documents. so why do they want to see what's in them? trump didn't have a catalog of what those documents were before they were taken. i saw how trump handled things in his oval office when he had staff to handle his classified documents. he didn't handle it well. sometimes he waved classified documents front of reporters. they want to get those documents so they can figure out what their defense actually is on the things the justice department seems likely to indict them on. look, here's another question. it's been eight weeks since donald trump was found with documents in his possession, that he lied to the federal government about having and we still don't know why he had them and what he was intending to use them for. i mean, they've had a zillion filings for why he had these documents, his team hasn't provided one. >> because they can't do that without incriminating him. scott jennings, from a political

perspective here, there are a lot of republicans in washington who would really love for donald trump to go away, even though they won't say that in public. what is the hope here in terms of how this case will be handled among people behind the scenes? >> well, i mean, i don't know. on the one hand -- >> they're about to nominate him again potentially. >> that's the thing. there's been a big argument in the republican party over the last several months since he left office about whether if he got indicted if it would make him a martyr or not. that has been a legitimate debate that's been going on behind the scenes. i will say about the supreme court, i have a lot of confidence they're going to rule on the merits of the law. i don't think they're going to, you know, it doesn't matter. i trust this court to do the right thing. >> they have showed in previous instances where the president has gone to them, they have not really indulged his tendencies. >> absolutely. so i think that's number one. number two, i agree on the delay stuff. number three, where they get super interesting is there's been indication by some of his

people that are close to him in the public domain this week that he may want to announce a campaign by thanksgiving. and so if this thing is still going on after he becomes a candidate, what does that do to the department of justice? i have no idea, but i'm guessing they're hoping to push it beyond any indictments because it helps them muddy the waters and make them look political. >> here we go, 2024. five weeks till the midterm elections, but we'll be in the thick of all this -- we kind of already are. shan and miles will stick around. one of the first cases already being heard by the new supreme court is a major test of the voting rights act. is gerrymandering in alabama designed to cut right through the heart of the black vote? we're going to talk with the man leading the fight for change and what he's looking for from the justices when "cnn tonight" returns.

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here is the reality on the ground in alabama. the state's white population is shrinking. and its black and hispanic population is growing. but the shifting demographics are not represented in congress, and you're looking at the reason why this is alabama's 7th congressional district. it was jegerrymandered to ensur it would be the only district in the state where black people make up the majority.

that's not our assessment. a three-jungle panel, including two judges appointed by donald trump ruled unanimously that the state's congressional map was illegal. they said, quote, black voters have less opportunity than other alabamians to elect candidates of their choice to congress. the supreme court heard arguments in the case today. in her first case, the newest supreme court justice, ketanji brown jackson, said issues of race matter, especially when it comes to the 14th amendment guaranteeing equal justice under the law. >> the legislator who introduced that amendment said that, quote, unless the constitution should restrain them, those states will all, i fear, keep up this discrimination and crush to death the hated friedman. that's not a race-neutral or race-blind idea. >> on the merits of the law, justice elena kagan called this

a, quote, slam dunk. but with the court's 6-3 majority, even slam dunks aren't a sure thing. i'm joined by one of the people suing alabama over the congressional map, evan milligan. thank you so much for being here tonight. i really appreciate having your perspective. and i just want to start by talking about the real-world impact that this is having in alabama in terms of who is representing alabamians in congress. >> sure. thanks for having me. so in alabama right now we have one of our seven congressional districts that has a majority-black voting age population. that district is district 7. it's represented by congresswoman terry swoewell. with the exception of that district, none of the districts have a footprint in the black belt region of our state. the black belt is the central part of our state. it's one of the poorest regions of the country, but also one of the most cultural rich areas in

the country. we have things dating back to the origins of gospel, bluegrass music, country. there's a lot of things that have come out of this part of our state. and without congressional representation, it's really hard to deal with some of the infrastructure issues there, some of the issues related to the need to bring in new employers, manufacturers for jobs. so having an additional district will bring more representation for that area. >> let's talk about exactly, you know, what this looks like on the map. i want to put this up for all of our viewers. this shows that there are key moments in the civil rights movement. remember, so much of this unfolded alabama. the spot of rosa parks' arrest is on one side of that red line. >> right. >> and the site of dr. martin luther king's church is on the other side of that line. district 7 has a black representative, that's terry sewell. district 2 does not. talk about the symbolism of that. >> sure.

when we're drawing maps in this way, we're basically -- in the case of district 7, pooling lots of black communities together. it's called packing. we're packing communities together. in the other districts, we're cracking them. whereas we do have a black population that could warrant additional -- at least one other additional opportunity district, with a we have is those communities being diluted among the remaining districts. so in that map, you see an example of a city that has considerable black history, black communities on all sides of montgomery county and montgomery city. with the exception of those that are on the southwest and western side, those communities have been drawn into district 2, which is a majority-white district. so one of the impacts as it dilutes the votes of the black

communities in those neighborhoods. >> i mean, it's really interesting. i think it helps people wrap their head around the idea that this -- the way that these lines were drawn is separating neighbors from neighbors and people with shared common political interests that are different from people perhaps in a farther geographic area in this way that seems -- that this traditional panel said arbitrary. so alabama is trying to argue that it goes beyond this map, that the voting rights act only covers intentional discrimination, and they say this is not that. we heard multiple conservative justices push back on that today. listen. >> my understanding of our cases is that you don't have to show intent. >> the statute itself says you don't have to show discriminatory intent. >> what do you take from what they had to say that you don't actually have to mean for it to

be discriminatory for it to be illegal? >> i would hope that's where the ruling falls. today obviously when we look at cases of discrimination in governance or corporations, i know this that we always will find that email or that letter that says i intend to discriminate against xyz person or group. and so that's what leads us to test that supreme court has passed down. in the case with our case that we brought, we actually did a three-factor test on the front end to first establish that there was an instance of, you know, one ethnic group voting in a block, black voters and the black vote. then we needed to establish there were patterns of white voters voting in a bloc to overcome the black community's votes. and then the third thing was establishing that there was -- so that establishes racial

polarization. if we show those things, if we show it's possible to create a map that also provides another opportunity district and also comports with traditional principles of redistricting, then it's possible to show that there's been at least the inference of a violation of section 269 -- 269 voting rights zantac it's going to be a while until we get the decision, but interesting to hear the case today. evan milligan, we really appreciate it. coming up, the oath keepers' sedition trial. jurors heard a secret audio recording of a meeting with talk of bringing weapons to d.c. and preparing to fight on behalf of then-president trump. but did the feds miss a key opportunity long before january 6th? that's next.

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dramatic moments playing out in a federal courthouse during the historic sedition trial of five members of the oath keepers for their alleged roles in the january 6th insurrection.

prosecutors unveiled secretly recorded audio from an alleged november 2020 planning meeting where members discussed plans to bring weapons to washington, d.c. this is in november. oath keepers leader stewart rhodes is heard saying, quote, we are not getting out of this without a fight. there's going to be a fight. but let's just do it smart and let's do it while president trump is still commander in chief. he continued, quote, if the fight comes, let the fight come. let antifa go. if they go on us, we'll go on them. i'll sacrifice myself for that. if things go kin nettic, great. that brings the president reason and rationale to invoke the insurrection act is what he was talking about. shan wu, miles taylor and ron brownstein are back with me to discuss. shan, i want to touch on the legal situation here. i mean, how damning is that? >> it's very damning.

i mean, very. >> an obvious question. >> that's the kind of thing prosecutors really salivate over having that kind of evidence. it's hard for the defense to rebut. i understand one of the counsels trying to say this is still protected speech, that's fine, he's not being prosecuted for speech but for the insurrection. >> speaking of armed insurrection, i want to show everyone what ron johnson, the senator from wisconsin, he's up for re-election, seems on track as of today to win said re-election. but it is a close race. here's what he had to say about january 6th. >> to call what happened on january 6th an armed insurrection i just think is not accurate. you saw the pictures inside capitol. i saw it that day, the armed insurrection stained the blieds in the rotunda. >> we should probably underscore that, well, they put out a statement basically saying he wasn't saying the thing that he said.

his campaign did. but you heard him there. ron brownstein, we hear on the one hand this tape, the oath keepers saying, hey, we're going to do this while trump is still president so he'll invoke the insurrection act, and then we have a senator who was there on january 6th saying this. >> people who study political violence, elizabeth newman and others, say one of the most important things in tamping down political violence is for the political leadership of a country to send a clear and unequivocal message that it is unacceptable. that is the opposite of what we've seen happen in the republican party since january 6th. they simply have not sent that kind of message. there have been too many officials who try to normalize or downplay what happened. as a result, you get polls like the cbs poll a few months ago where half of republican voters described january 6th as patriotic. more than half described it as defending freedom . that doesn't mean all of them

are going to undertake a violent act, but it does mean for that fringe on the edge. coalition, they do not feel they are getting a clear message that this is unacceptable. this reads you out of politicize political society. when ron johnson says that, there are people who interpret it as basically a green light. >> i mean, well, it seems like he is not condemning it, miles. >> to buttress ron's point, simply look at how out of touch ron johnson is with the reality of what happened on the ground. he picked the wrong week to say this was not an armed insurrection. the week we have audio of key mr. tors of january 6th saying it is, wait for it, an armed insurrection that they were planning. i mean, the actual participants said that's when their intent was. it's like ron johnson coming out in a murder trial and saying that guy is not a murderer, and then the murderer saying, no, no, i'm actually a murderer. i mean, it's totally ignoring the reality and as ron notes ,

that allows this behavior to get normalized. it's allowed half of the country to start believing that what was legitimately an armed insurrection was just perhaps a tourist visit or something acceptable. that's really worrying from a law enforcement perspective, but there's another element here. we found out in that case that this recording was submitted to the fbi before january 6th. and the bureau did not act on it until it was submitted again the following year. that's really alarming to me from a public safety perspective. the fbi was very focused on racial justice protests the previous summer and black lives matter and antifa, and so was my former agency, dhs. they were not focused on violent extremist groups. >> they didn't discover this because until the tip was resubmitted in march, it was first submitted november of 2020, according to cnn reporting. and the other thing, ron and shan, i'm interested in your

perspective on this from a law enforcement and legal perspective. i mean, we've seen the arc of this throughout. it started in 2016 at trump rallies >> yeah. >> when smaller acts of violence became celebrated in a way, occasionally by the man himself on the stage. it kind of continued throughout. i mean, from trump saying he could shoot people on fifth avenue to what happened in charlottesville. it was this slow boil that ends in january 6th. and now "the new york times" is reporting that threats to lawmakers are through the roof on both sides. >> look, not only lawmakers, local public health officials, local election officials, local school board officials. donald trump this week saying that mitch mcconnell has a death wish, you know, kind of slinging a racist slur at his wife. has there been a republican senator including mitch mcconnell who have raised an objection to trump using that language? our political life is different

than it was 20, 30, 10 years ago. >> it's different in the last five years. >> with this violent imagery and violent threats, up and down kind of the political system. this is a different country. it is kind of moving in a direction where political violence, i mean, is sort of inte integrated, and again, normalized. what's missing is a clear unequivocal declaration by a broad range of republican leaders that this is unacceptable. we're just not hearing that. >> this is a challenge for law firm too. >> it is. at that point it's a challenge we have to be careful of laying too much at the feet of law enforcement. law enforcement is not going to solve this issue. i mean, this is a broader societal issue. it's a political issue. it's a lack of leadership. law enforcement in a lot of ways is by nature reactive. they're reacting to new volumes of threats, new kinds of threats, but they can't really get at the cause of the threats. and the cause of those threats is a very profound one right

now. it's this normalization of this kind of rhetoric with no accountability. >> it does tell us that we need to be paying closer attention when people are sending recordings like this to the fbi, to your point. shan wu, miles taylor, ron brownstein, thank you for being with us tonight? >> we appreciate it. coming up, a northern california city living in fear tonight as a serial killer behind the shootings of seven people. the police chief of stockton, california, joins me with an urgent plea for help, next. and only 24-hour steroid free spray. while other allergy sprays take hours astepro starts working in 30 minutes. so you can..... astepro and go. migraine hits hard... ...so u hit back with ubrelvy. u put it all on the line.

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shootings. stockton, california, police chief stanley mcfadden joins me now. sir, thank you so much for joining us. and i know on what has been a very difficult period for all of you. can you walk us through what we're seeing in the video you put out today? and why, what stands out to you about this person? >> yes, absolutely. thank you for having me here today. you know, our town is mourning with the loss of these regions individuals. and what we found if you look at the video is we want our communities to pay attention to how he walks. he has a inconsistent walk about him. as well, he has a very tall posture when he walks. >> it is interesting and definitive. what about this video ties him to one of these events. >> here's what we know, that this is a person of interest,

where we've seen this individual show up at more than one seen. we have not seen this individual committing a criminal act. but seems to be showing up in some of our recent homicides. so, it's a person that we definitely want identified. you know, we have a very large reward, 125,000 now, for this individual. and we need the communities help in locating this person. >> so, stockton's mayor said earlier today that we do not know at this point if there is just one individual, as we see here, or if it's a series of individuals who are responsible for these homicides. in your opinion, are all of these killings the work of a serial killer? >> we'll, if you go by definition, you know, absolutely. we have a series of serial murders occurring in the city. what we cannot say is if it's one person or multiple people. we're going through a lot of evidence still. all of our teams have been

working together on this. and we hope to have a lot more information so we can make that determination, but per definition, yes, we have a serial killer, or killers. >> so scary, so you connected these cases through the ballistics. what more can you tell us about that? have you determined that one gun was used to carry out all those shootings? even that one is outside of stockton, in oakland? >> thus far, you know, it's been a combination of ballistics and, you know, our video footage. you know, we have several hours of video footage. we get to our federal and state partners, they're helping review the stuff. but right now, where interconnected via ballistics and video footage. >> okay, so, what other factors may have contributed to these shootings being related? we know that the one survivor was a woman. but all the other victims we're male. what do these victims tell you about the connections? >> you know, here is what we're

finding at all these cases, you know, it's very dark areas where there's not very many cameras. where they are alone, often caught off guard, maybe relaxing in a vehicle or walking alone. and almost pitch darkness. we believe that perhaps this individual, or individuals, may be looking for the area during daylight to anticipate where cameras may be, and what would be the best approach for this person or persons to take. >> well, that's terrifying. could there be other cases that we are not yet aware of? >> that's what we're, you know, we're going through all of our unsolved cases. we're reporting with other agencies throughout the county. that's something we hope to bring light on, if there are other cases. right now, we don't have any evidence that shows that, nor do we have any other statements or information from our partners that there are other

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i'd like to share a moment of gratitude with all of you before we go. today marks one year since i had surgery to remove a brain tumor. i'm humbled to be able to say that i'm completely healthy now, and can physically live my life as though none of this ever happened. but i really cannot lead my light like a never did, because i have just learned so much from what happened. i am so grateful now to understand the things that i was forced to grapple with because i had this tumor growing in my head. this picture was before the surgery, when i drew the sharpie line to show where they were going to cut. i was only 36 years old when i was diagnosed with this tumor. it was on a scans, there was no way to know what kind it was until they opened up my head.

i had to spend weeks planning what life would look like for my len two-year-old son, what that would look like without me there. i thought of my husband having the apparent on his own, having to start over. i thought about my parents losing a child. and after surgery, you know, i was so blessed to learn that i was one of the lucky ones. the tumor was benign. but i was also extremely lucky to have through all of this what truly matters. and in having to face down my own mortality, to be able to truly understand what that meant at an age when, you know, i still have, thank god, all the time in the world to change how a live. because the people that we love in the health of our bodies matter more than anything else ever can or will. and showing up for them, and for ourselves, day in and day out is absolutely what matters the most. and i am so grateful to god and to everyone in my life who

carried me through this trial and brought me to this change place. and i'm grateful to all of you. so many of you sent messages of support to me, and many of you have shared your own stories of trial. and i just want to say thank you for trusting me with that. thank you all for watching tonight. i will be back here tomorrow night. don't go anywhere though, don lemon tonight starts right. now hey, don. >> how my supposed to start the show now, casey? that was amazing. i can't believe it's been a year as well. >> i can't either, thank you so much. >> i'm not going to get you go that. fast so, when you face your own mortality, or you face mortality or death of someone in your life, it certainly does change you. it puts things into perspective. we are very likely to be in the positions that we are and now to have these jobs and so on and so forth. but it also put your per -- career in perspective, that's not as important as the people you love. and quite frankly, life, the experiences that you have every day. >> i think you are absolut