code on the tv screen for a link to, it you can also find it at apple podcast, or where we get your podcast. the fourth episode will be tomorrow, i talk with actress, molly shannon about the devastating death of her mother, little sister and cousin in a car crash. her father was driving the car when she was four years. all it change the course of her life. it's a powerful conversation, i hope you, listen i hope it helps. >> one of the news into perspective, because there are some big issues happening. a lot of hypocrisy going around these days. okay? our big story tonight though is the former president going right to the supreme court, asking them to intervene in the mar-a-lago documents fight now the doj has got a deadline to respond to all of this. clarence thomas, justice clarence thomas. just a sperm has until 5 pm a week from tonight. team trump is asking from the special master to get access to

more than 100 classified documents found in the search of mar-a-lago, which would also mean trump's legal team could see them. which sounds like a page right out of the trump playbook. and you know what that page is, it's delay, delay, delay. that's really all this is. you want to put things into perspective? it's just delay, push it further down the road. and then also, you know, sent a fund raising letters to help so that he could raise money off of all of this. that's just, that's what's happening. and he's hoping that the court will take beside. a conservative majority court courtesy of, of course, the former president himself. a fact is probably top of mind down in mar-a-lago. but you've got to wonder whether the supreme court, which has ruled against him in earlier cases, actually want anything to do with this. they might not want to touch it with a ten foot pole, amidst the outrage over what a lot of americans see as the politicization of the highest court in the land, in the wake of the court overturning roe v. wade. and that brings me to the other thing that we need to put into

perspective, right, i talked about a lot of mobocracy. like, this is enormous. the former nfl star, now senate candidates, herschel walker and his campaign, scrambling to contain the fallout from a blockbuster new allegation that the antiabortion republican paid for his then girlfriend to have an abortion in 2009. walker says that it is not true. >> it is a flat out lie. and now you know how important the seat is. the seat is very important, that they'll do anything to win the seat, and why. because they want to make it about everything else except the troop problems we have in this country is. it's inflation, the borders wide open, crime. they do not want to talk about that. >> okay, one of his sons, christian walker, slamming his own father. >> they say they have receipts, whatever. he gets on twitter, he lies about it. okay, i'm done. don, everything has been a lie. but >> all of this just the

latest scandal herschel walker has faced in one of the most high-profile senate races of the midterms, up against georgia democratic senator raphael warnock. a lot more coming up on all of this. i want to bring in now cnn's justice correspondent jessica snider, -- elliott williams, and former special assistant prosecutor john sale. hello. where do we begin. how about with jessica for the reporting. jessica, listen, the justice department has until 5 pm next tuesday to respond to this request i'm talk about this from team trump. what happens now, jessica? >> well, it means doj lawyers though will be working through this upcoming holiday weekend to come up with the response to this emergency petition from trump's legal team. you know, it is an emergency petition but there is a question of the urgent nature of all this, given the fact that trump's team did not even file this until today, which is

about two weeks after the 11th circuit ruled. and now justice clarence thomas, which does oversee petitions coming in from the 11th circuit, he's giving doj one week to respond. and it does again go to show that this is not a particularly pressing claim that trump's team is making. nevertheless, after the doj responses in the supreme court as a whole, beyond just justice thomas, they could decide on this pretty quickly. but i will note, don, trump's track record on asking to step in on previous cases is not very. good look at earlier this year, when he refused to block his record from the january 6th committee. and because of that, you know, it's really likely that the supreme court will not disrupt what the 11th circuit has already decided. so, probably not looking good for trump. we'll see how quickly the supreme court moves here. >> i've got to ask you, jessica, because what he's asking for is not all encompassing. >> right. >> it only involves a certain number of the documents. so, walk us through exactly what trump wants the supreme court to do. >> so, he's asking for a very limited relief here. and basically what they want as

they want the special master to get access to the 100 classified documents that he has so far been blocked from reviewing ever since the 11th circuit ruled two weeks ago. crucially and notably here, though, if the special master regains the access, that also means that trump's legal team gets to see these classified documents. and that's something they've long been angling for here. you know, because of this, trump's teams arguing, they're saying the 11th circuit just didn't have the proper jurisdiction to even act in the first place. so, they now want the supreme court to step in. but it is a very narrow request here, don. they're not even asking the doj to stop using these documents as it pertains to their investigation. so, a very small ask here. >> elliott, can you walk us through -- what is the motivation here? does trump team want to make the case that he has executive privilege over these classified documents?

i mean, they really do not belong to him. >> yeah, look, don, i cannot explain what any lawyer or any parties motivation might be. now look, as jessica has noted, this will certainly slow the proceeding down. and most importantly, even if the former president were to win this appeal, it really would not change the outcome of the proceedings in any meaningful way. even if they were to win, the justice department could still end up having access to the documents, as they do right now. >> so, what's the plan? >> and will use -- them you know, do use them in a criminal investigation. it's -- it might be for a delay. but at the end of the day, it's not going to change much. >> all right, john, again, so then, what is the point here? what is the point of asking for this? >> well, the point is, i think, to adequately defend their client. but i do not think it's going to make one bit of difference. i mean, i agree. on your show, don, i suggested early on a special master. but what i was thinking of was lowering the temperature. the trump team was accusing the department of justice of being on a political witch hunt. i thought if an independent

judicial officer reviewed the documents, what would be the difference if there is a brief delay? you know, believe it or not, somebody running for the state assembly in florida was banned from twitter from suggesting that there be a law that permit any floridian to shoot a federal agent on site. so, i just thought that this would lower the temperature and the politicize everything. as far the supreme court is concerned, the only reason we're even talking about this is because it involves former president trump. this is a jurisdictional, narrow, appeal which i think the supreme court will not hear. they will not entertain. and as judge cannon, who i think has taken unfair rap, said in her original order, what this may entail is a brief pause. but so what? the real question is not going to be these hundred documents. the real question in six months is going to be whether or not the former president should be charged. that's going to be the real question.

>> that's what i want to ask you. you don't think the supreme court will even take it off? >> i do not, i don't. >> why not? >> only because it's a narrow standing issue. and it's an issue of what's called an inter lock tory appeal, whether they had a right to appeal in the first place. it's not of any great consequence. and i think justice thomas will probably refer it to the full court. so, it's the politicized. and i think he clearly will not get five votes. i predict that it will be a unanimous, if we even know the vote, because we'll be on the so-called shadow docket. >> well, that was kind of thrust of the question, then, what is the point? you said it was, you know, to adequately defend your client. but you do not think they are going to take it up. and it doesn't really change anything for trump. i'm just -- you know -- >> so, to answer your question, they do not want to commit whether or not the president had the power to declassify, whether he did declassify. they want to see the documents. so that they then are not boxed in as advocates, so they can be flexible near position. >> the former president is

charged, in my view it will not be over these different technical statutes. whether or not he had the power to declassify. if he is charged, on anything coming out of mar-a-lago and it's a big of. it will be an obstruction case. and that is obstruction of the grand jury. obstruction of what the fbi is doing. that is what this is going to be all about. >> got it. you heard which onset, right. john doesn't believe the courts going to take it up but let's say the court does take it up. and giggles. so let's say takes it up and he sides with trump. how would that change with the special master here in new york is doing. >> again, it doesn't change anything. a special master would then have access to the documents. but i believe so would the justice department. at that point. i think it's not an unfair view though the supreme court just may not take it. look, this is a dispute between two other branches of government. and it is not really a massive

huge question that they would be resolving here. yes, it is donald trump. but to the point that was just made a moment ago. this is a very highly technical question about how appeals are operated. so number one, they might not take it. number two, if they do it might be the kind of decision the court just resolves pretty quickly. john, could it backfire because judge dearie has pressed team trump to prove all the wild allegations that he has been making about planted evidence and claims he declassified everything. >> that he could just do it by thinking about it is there a possibility that this could backfire. seems like every time they push it that it goes to the court or the judge and they rule against it or they ask me to prove. things just seemed like they get worse for them the more they ask for. >> judge cannon ordered a special master, media reported as a big win for team trump. and be careful what you ask for,

because when judge dearie was appointed special master, he is really holding everyone's feet to the fire. and put up or shut up. as officers of the court, the trump lawyers are being very careful to say anything in court. that they can't really prove. so judge is going to adhere to a very tight schedule. and trump team is going to not gain one thing other than if they gain a month or two, what's the difference? >> i mean the difference honestly. understand legally what's the difference but politically it could be a huge difference, especially because the midterms are coming. up >> under the doj rule, there will be nothing happening between now and the midterms anyway. nothing that potentially could affect the election. trump is technically not a candidate, but for all purposes he is. >> right. on thank you all, i appreciate, thank you so much. up next, the report rocking herschel walker's senate

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okay, so, here we go. tonight, herschel walker, the republican candidate for senate in georgia who strongly opposes abortion rights, denying a report in the daily beast that he paid for a girlfriends abortion more than a dozen years. ago a source saying that the walker campaign knows the allegation is a major setback, with just over a month until the election. the georgia race is one the most hotly contested battles, which could decide which party controls the senate.

here's cnn's manu raju with the story. >> herschel walker's senate campaign now reeling, up ended by an explosive report alleging the staunch antiabortion republican paid for girlfriend to get the procedure for a child conceive 13 years ago. >> i never paid for an abortion, and its ally. >> walker stayed behind closed doors on tuesday, with his aides refusing to disclose his schedule. even after the initially agreed to say where he would campaign this week. cnn, however, did obtain an invitation to an event hosted by prayer warriors for herschel at a baptist church in atlanta. but cnn was not allowed to cover the event or weight in the parking lot. even as a leading conservative activists, ralph reade, came outside to defend the candidate. >> i will promise you this. the voters of georgia are going to reject this kind of gutter politics. >> tell herschel author that you came here and answer these questions.

>> this is a closed event, a prayer event with faith leaders. >> according to daily beast, walk in 2009 reimbursed his then girlfriend $700 for the cost of the abortion. the woman was not named, and cnn has not verified the report. but the daily beast reported a -- bank deposit slip with a copy of walker's personal check. and i get well card signed by "h", telling the woman, "pray you feel better." >> i sent so many get well, i sent out so much of anything. but i can tell you right now, i never asked anyone to get an abortion. >> one of walker's sons, christian, walker lashing out publicly against his father. >> don't lie in the lives you've destroyed an act like you're some moral family man. >> while walker tweeted, i love my son, no matter what. >> can you respond to christian walker saying this is a lie, sir? >> i gave my statement. >> like so many battleground states, the supreme court's decision to strike down roe v. wade putting abortion front and center, especially for suburban women. >> abortion is certainly a driving issue for me.

>> senator raphael warnock, a democrat incumbent, tapping into the issue at a campaign event outside of atlanta. >> the patients room is too small and cramped the space for a woman and a doctor the united states government that's -- [inaudible] [applause] >> but the freshman democrat sidestepping stories about the stories impact on the raised. senator, do you believe the daily beast story? >> i honestly haven't had a chance to read it. >> warnock and his allies have already spent $76 million on ads here, about $10 million more than the gop, attacking walkers complicated past. but republicans are hoping warnock's ties to an unpopular president biden, and concerns over inflation and crime -- >> raphael warnock, he chose villains over georgia's families. >> will be enough to overcome walkers problems. >> i don't agree with warnock's philosophy. >> warnock keeping biden at an arm's length. >> do you think joe biden should -- joe biden run for reelection? >> part of the problem of politics is too much of the

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herschel walker and his campaign scrambling to contain the fallout from a new report alleging that the hard-line antiabortion candidate paid for his then girlfriend to have an abortion back in 2009.

now, cnn cannot independently confirm the allegations. but joining me now cnn political analyst astead herndon, and cnn political commentators ana navarro and alice stewart. good evening, one. also here we go, october. i think this is the grab by the peak of 2022. because everyone accounted, remember the former president former candidate and he still won. so we'll see. first, i want to see what you guys said. i said that walker is saying the allegations are alive. his former girlfriend gave the daily beast a get well card that's allegedly from walker, with his signature, also reported payment from water of $700. is this denial, is that going to fly with voters? >> i think it depends on what voters you are talking to. voters who are inclined to believe herschel walker, aka republicans, will usually take

this. i mean, this is something that we have seen across conservative candidates. and it shows that the issue of abortion is not necessarily a personal one, but about politics, about power. and the argument you are hearing from republicans is that the political power that could come from herschel walker winning is more important than any action he took as an individual. person that is going to be the excuse they give. and if you are a republican in georgia, that is probably going to be an excuse that you are willing to step, because you want them to win. but the real question is on the margins is he going to use some slice of independent voters he needs in that purple state? will people not come out who would've come out otherwise? that's going to be the question. and really, let's be honest, here he needs every single voter he can. because for a state that close, he is down, he's not doing that.

while >> i've sat here long enough to think this could actually end up helping him in this environment. why you shaking your head, do you believe that, ana? >> because nothing surprises me anymore. >> remember when you sat here till one, two in the, morning waiting for the hostage tape, trump, the grab them by the p thing, and you said it was on the air. and someone was on the air saying don't say that word, and you're saying, don't tell me don't say the word? you should be telling trump. i remember the whole thing. and this could end up helping him. in this strange political universe were. in an >> apparently, it helped him raise funds already. and you know, today, there was a lot of christian leaders praying over him and telling him to put on his armor of god. i think god wants his armor back. look, nothing is surprising anymore. and you've got to understand that this is a candidate, herschel walker, that we already know lied and was a hypocrite after chastising black man and preaching to black men about responsible fatherhood. turns out he wasn't a responsible father and have

these children. he's got these issues with the ex-wife of domestic violence. he's got issues of outright lies that have been documented. >> he lies about the police department, he spoke to back the blue. >> don't forget the chicken business. won the biggest minority chicken -- anyways, it's just. and it hasn't mattered, right? this is a guy who should have been eliminated from being a viable candidate in the primaries. who should have, who should not be a viable candidate now. and still the polls are pretty close. and this is not even like the access hollywood tapes. because those were really a surprise. turns out half of georgia had heard about these rumors of this paying for an abortion months if not years ago. >> but he is paying a cost. i mean, if he is a republican, if he was a non herschel walker candidate in that state, he would be winning. he is not winning. and he's not doing as well as brian kemp is because of these

reasons. he is a weak senate candidate, and that is costing him at least on those margins. >> that's a conversation we've had so much, alice. where we talk about the quality of candidates. and even mitch mcconnell, am i wrong, talk to the quality of candidates. let me get a soundbite. because we want to hear from you, alice. this is christian walker, this is herschel walker's son, really letting him have it on twitter, calling him a liar, calling out his father's claim of being a champion of family values. take a listen, and we'll get alice on the other side. here it is. >> i stayed silent as the atrocities committed against my mom were downplayed. i stayed silent when it came out that my father, herschel walker, had all these random kids across the country, none of whom he raised. and you know my favorite issue to talk about's father's absence. surprise, because it affected me. that's why i talk about it all the time. because it affected me. family values people, he has four kids, four different women, was not in the house raising one of them. he was out having sex with other women. do you care about family values? >> can you get past it, alice? >> look, i think -- first off, you know, my heart goes out to him because he's clearly had a very difficult childhood. and the experience he's had and, i don't blame him for being as off as he is. but those personal short

feelings by herschel walker, there's something he's going to have to deal with in his personal life. in terms of the political fallout of all this, it clearly appears as though he's going to take the donald trump playbook in responding to this by deny, deflect, and demean the accusers. and that's exactly what he's appearing to do moving forward. and going after the accuser, and also the media that is covering the story. look, what we're seeing throughout years of history in politics with character, or lack thereof, does not appear to be a disqualifying character traits for running for public. office and that goes on both sides of the aisle. we see -- a litany of candidates, republican and democrats. the key here, look, i am a republican. i think that herschel walker was a flawed candidate from the very beginning. there is gary black, i think would've been a very strong gop candidate. but we cannot go back and redo the primary. so, from republican standpoint, and while we are seeing conservatives and republican standing behind him, we have a binary choice now between a candidate like herschel walker, who will fight for issues that are important to republicans,

which is inflation, the economy, and crime, as opposed to raphael warnock, who is furthering the biden policies that are really not reflective of the people in my home state of georgia. so i think from this point -- >> so you are supportive of herschel walker. >> when we have a binary choice right now between the policies that herschel walker supports, in the policies raphael warnock supports, absolutely, yes. >> but alison, you're putting me in an uncomfortable position here, because the entire time that we have been on the air together, you've said that the reason that you held your nose and voted for donald trump is because of his stance on abortion. and now you are saying it does not matter that herschel walker is hypocritical about an abortion, and allegedly has paid for one, an abortion, that it is now okay because of inflation. so, what is it? >> no, what i'm seeing right

now, if i was back in my home state of georgia, and i had to decide between a candidate like herschel walker, who may or may not have paid for one abortion, or raphael warnock, who is supportive of taxpayer funded abortions for everyone, i think the choice is very simple. herschel walker's policies are more aligned with republicans, conservatives in the state of georgia. and moving forward, this is going to be a tremendous -- >> how do you know he's telling the truth about those issues if he's not telling the truth about abortion? >> while, we'll just have to take his word for it. i mean, look, at the end of the day when it comes to the policies, i trust him on what he says he's going to do with policies on economic issues, when it comes to fighting crime. those are important issues. and they are certainly for republicans in georgia as well. >> this is so painful to hear. and it's like, we have learned nothing in the last six years. we've learned nothing from the trump experience where people

held their nose, because they wanted conservative support. which he delivered on. >> wasn't abortion the thing that everyone said that they -- that's why they supported trump, because -- >> certainly for evangelicals. but i would say for a lot of evangelicals that kind of transaction has changed. i mean, i appreciate what alice is saying, because it's clear, right? >> have a little analysts is right on the issue. >> right, but i'm saying it is about power, it's about control of the senate, and it's about instituting policies. and so, for a lot of these evangelicals, that choice has become one that has furthered from just donald trump individually being someone who can bring them a roe v. wade reversal, but for a whole slate

of candidates who they think are still better than the other side. but republicans are going to try to do, is no matter what herschel walker does himself, that is preferable mena democratic often. and that kind of negative reinforcement as work for their base. >> listen, satan himself could be running. but because of inflation, we're going to vote for satan, because we have a binary choice. and i think, i think the formula has changed, right. look, i remember when there is a congressman in pennsylvania, tim murphy, who was a big pro lifer. and it came out that he asked a girl for, he asked a mistress to get an abortion. and he ended up resigning very quickly thereafter. right now, as we sit here, there is a congressman, a republican congressman from tennessee, another big pro-lifer, who has been reportedly, who reportedly paid two or three abortions. he was a doctor. and one of the women was his patient, who was also his girlfriend. and he is going to skate back into congress through reelection, desjarlais name. so, what i'm trying to say is, that the issue of character is no longer an issue that decides election. there is something of a time when a scandal of this nature would have been discovered, and that person would've been on tv in the next day or the next hour, resigning and quitting and leaving the campaign.

that's no longer the case. you just doubled down and pretend it is not happening. and raise money out of the, you know, evil democrats and media trying to malign you. >> yeah, all right, thank you, that's all we have time, we're going to get to the break. thank you very much, i appreciate it. call it off again on -- again, call it, excuse me, back it up, please. call it the off again on again relationship between elon musk and twitter. the tech billionaire once again proposing to buy the company at full price. but will the deal last this time? freshly prepared with clean ingredients... spark an explosion of the senses. so when you finally taste it, it just confirms... this. is. fantastic. and only at panera. $1 delivery fee on our app. as someone living with type 2 diabetes, i want to keep it real and talk about some risks. with type 2 diabetes you have up to 4 times greater risk of stroke, heart attack, or death. even at your a1c goal, you're still at risk

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so, in a surprising move, elon musk is proposing to buy twitter again. musk's big about-face sending shares of the social media giant soaring by more than 20%. it's just the latest in the back and forth saga between musk and twitter. the move comes after a trove of musk's personal text messages about the deal were released friday, and ahead of the two sides heading to trial over mosques earlier attempted terminate the deal. i want to bring in kara swisher, host of the pivot, the pivot podcast. [laughs] >> is that morning don. >> thank you very much, that's the name of the new show,

mourning don. >> is it? seems like a good idea. it worked before. >> sounds similar, but i'm not sure to what. hey karen, good to see you. so, this game of will he won't be between musk and twitter has been playing out for months. >> yeah. >> and now he's again proposing to buy the company at full price. what is going on here? why the reversal? remember way back, i think a's during white house correspondent weekend we had a conversation about in. >> he's proposing to do it now. he was going to buy it, and he's going to be forced to do it by the court on october 17th, and he knew that. the writing is on the wall. these tax have not helped him.

it shows he knew quite a bit about bots. so, he had to fight no matter what, or he would've had to pay a major settlement fee. so, he probably figured if i have to pay a settlement fee i might as well by it. and he's managed to collect the money together. he's managed to -- all's arguments against it. he's got to honor the contract. it's not a new wrinkle. he was going to have to do this within a month. so, here we are. he's doing it willingly, i guess. >> this is coming after released on friday of a trove of musk's personal text messages about the deal. do you think that had any impact on the deal? >> i think he was not looking forward to the deposition because of all the things he could've been asked about, and i think there's a lot that he didn't want to answer. he's a very controversial executive, it could've went many different ways. and i expect he did not want to undergo a court hearing. it's like trump, he doesn't want to be in court, he can say what he wants publicly. but saying in court is a very different story. and i expect he did not want that sort of scrutiny. and he would not have to pay it anyway. so, this just settles the problem gets back to square one. >> he has suggested, though, several changes to the platform. and they include getting rid of the permit account bans, making it more open to free speech, and allow the possible return of trump to the platform. >> that's right, yes.

>> more open to free speech? i think that's pretty much a hate reform. >> it's kind of a hot mess, isn't it. trump is coming, back he said this, and i think it's the way it's going to be. so, he's got to bring trump back. if he had not won this company, the current management would not have let trump back on, because why have that headache? elon does not mind headaches. he will change it pretty drastically. he has to, it's a terrible business, he could lose a lot of money. so, he's got to do a lot of things. he's a smart guy in terms of technology and some other ideas. so, we'll see if he can. you know, a lot of people have tried and failed to make twitter into a real business. and we'll see if he has the ability to do so. >> tonight, musk tweeting this, buying twitter is an accelerant to create x d, everything app. do you have any idea what he's talking about here? what exactly are his ambitions? >> there's a lot of everything asked. china has a lot of them, where you can do your payments, your entertainment, your news, your communications. it's a big dream, it's called a super app sometimes. he's just going on a trend that already exists. so, you know, a lot of people are trying. facebook in a way can be this way. so, he's trying to do all your business in one place, all your variants and everything.

and other places, they have them. here, we have a lot of different apps. you have twitter for some things, snapchat for something 's, tiktok. i think he is really facing a challenge from tiktok. so, everybody. is so he's got -- i've actually told him this, you've got to make twitter interesting and useful in some way. payments, you can possibly see payments and twitter. may more programming. there's all kinds of things he could do. >> he's also facing some backlash, kara, for inserting himself into russia's invasion of ukraine. >> yeah. >> he put out this twitter poll that suggesting that a path to peace between russia and ukraine requires ukraine remaining neutral. ukraine's ambassador to germany responding quote, f off is my very diplomatic reply to you. ukrainian president zelenskyy also getting in, going on, going after musk, i should say. he's a ceo, not a politician, or foreign policy maker. why is he weighing in on this? >> because he can, because people listen to him and talk about him like this.

>> do people really listen to him, though? >> you know, he's got a big platform. so it was just him being him. he had been actually helpful to the ukrainians around starlink. and i know he got some money to put that up by the biden administration. you know, he's just being him. he's got to really tone down the rhetoric at some point. maybe he will, maybe he will not. one of the things that i had mentioned to him is stop making about elon musk and make it about twitter. people are riveted to him, and i should be riveted to the product he's about to own. you know, it's sort of like buying a house, there's some mold in the basement, you know, some of the walls are problematic, the plumbing does not work, and he's got to fix it. and, you know, he, he, he broke it he bought it. that's the kind of thing he is in right now. >> house like that could be a money pit, kara. >> it could work, don. it's a very popular industry. >> he takes the foundation and get through the mold, it could work. listen, i don't mean this to be derogatory, but is he the ultimate role?

do people really listen to him, because sometimes, you know, when the former president, you troll people so much, it's the start of a star tune? >> but you are the two people were talking, about elon musk and donald trump. >> [laughs] >> i still think trump has the role, and i called him this in the new york times, the troller -in-chief. he's the, you know, if you get a chef's kiss for being just horrible online he wins hands down online. elon is funny sometimes. >> if you get a chef kiss for being a great guest in a great podcast, or it's for you. >> thank you, don. >> by the way, it's not mourning don. but we will see. >> we'll see, i can't wait. the drinks, all kinds of things happening. excited, excited. >> break of don, break of don. >> break of don. oh, my god, no, i give that a hard no. >> thank you, it's always a pleasure. i want to see you in person. all right, i will see you. >> okay, absolutely. >> all right, bye. i think i changed my mind about these glasses.

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court. what do you want here, you think? >> i think they're arguing a technicality, but they're trying to smack back at the ninth circuit of appeals, which has really dealt them a lot of blows. he has not had many winds in this case, except appointing a special master. and that has turned out to backfire on him. because the special master does not seem to be really ruling in their favor. so, now they're trying to find another avenue for support. and for trump, that's the supreme court where he appoints a third of the justices. and he seems to think that this court, which leans republican, and that has so many of its employees, and in his mind, his people will maybe rule in his favor. but such a small technicality. i'm not sure it will even change the direction of the. case maybe it is just a win is what he needs to change the perception in the public domain right now. so, he's willing to go there. but let us not forget that the