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okay, so, this is just in tonight, the daily beast reporting that the anonymous woman who said she had an abortion paid for by herschel walker is also the mother of one of his children. the daily beast originally agreed to withhold personal details about her, but the woman has now told them that she decided to share this after walker's denial of her original allegation. the woman told the daily beast that she wanted to stay anonymous to protect her family's privacy. the daily beast reported the woman provided proof that she is the mother of one of walker 's children, but did not say how. here with me on set, cnn political commentators ashley allison and alice stewart.

and also joining me cnn's senior political analyst, ron brownstein, and governor lieutenant, governor of georgia jeff duncan. good evening to one and all. so, as lieutenant governor of georgia, i've gotta ask you, governor duncan, this is a bombshell. how is it going to land with georgia voters? >> well, even the most staunch republicans are rattled at the continued flow of information. i think every republican knew that there was baggage out there. but the weight of that baggage is starting to feel a little bit closer to unbearable at this point. i'll give him the benefit of time to get his story out there. but we should be talking about other things, like governor kemp is talking about. he's got a near double digit lead in his race along with other state wide candidates. instead we're talking about the past. some of the stuff could've gotten cleaned up in the primary for if we were given an honest look in an honest primary that would've looked

hard at some of his leadership skills. >> yeah, and at the quality of candidates. alice, walker was out just today, denying that he even knows who this woman is. listen. >> have you figured out who it is? >> not at all. and that's what i hope everyone can see. it's sort of like everyone is anonymous, everyone is leaking, they want you to confess to something you have no clue about. >> so, republicans including you, said that you would support him. i asked you last night how do you know that he's telling the truth? do you believe him now? and can you still support him? >> look, i think what we're seeing right now is a huge, personal mass for herschel walker. he has a lot of explaining to do. but right now, we're looking at this, he has denied it. he has doubled down on it and continues to say that he was not responsible for this. that is a personal issue that he has to deal with that happened in his past.

i look at this through the political lens. he has vowed to continue to focus on issues that are important to the people of georgia, which is fighting, working to improve the economy, inflation, fighting crime. those are the political issues that he will go to washington and defend. as a republican, i will take a person with those political leanings much more so over raphael warnock, who is there to further the biden agenda. look, i'm not alone. a lot of republicans are still supporting herschel walker. i hear what the lieutenant governor is saying in terms of this is getting heavy. this is a huge burden to bear. but republicans are standing behind herschel walker, we're going to have rick scott go to georgia and campaign for him, lindsey graham campaign for him. -- >> that's astonishing. >> they're all. in >> okay, listen, this is what i'm trying to wrap my head around. and which i said to you last night, you're putting an uncomfortable just couldn't to seem like i'm attacking you, this is what you said to me over the last, i don't know, seven years we've been covering

trump. just we've been. here that abortion was the issue that made you hold your nose to support trump through all of his antics. so now abortion is no longer important? >> it is very important. it is extremely important to me. when you hear herschel walker, his position on abortion, he is against abortion. we >> he can't, he paid for. >> well, if he takes the oath to be a u.s. senator, he has to vowed to protect the sanctity of life, and he will vowed to continue to fight against abortion. those are the policies that he will represent, as a politician. >> but it's been overturned, alice. >> i'm talking about the emphasis to push for the sanctity of life. and that is an issue that is important to him. i trust that he will do so. as a politician -- >> understand or you can say it's important to him when he allegedly, according to this woman, and we all can believe what we want to believe, right, his sudden believe that he did, the woman who said that he did it. how can you believe in the sanctity of life if you are

encouraging and paying for a woman to have an abortion, is that not the exact opposite of? >> i hear exactly what you're saying in terms of what he does personally. what he has done personally in his life, may or may not have done personally in his life. and what he has vowed to the voters of georgia to do politically, from a political standpoint. many voters support him. the campaign has raised half 1 million dollars since the story came out. so, that just goes to show that there's a lot of voters that continue to put their money behind him, because they would rather look at the policies that he will represent as opposed to -- >> i think everyone who's sitting here is shocked, i think everyone in the studio a shot where. this go on, so. >> you continue to say a personal decision. and that's exactly why it should be a personal decision for a woman to decide what she wants to do with her body. and why herschel walker should not then passed legislation for a national abortion ban which he would try to do if elected. the hypocrisy is disgusting.

we are talking about the top leaders in our country. and he's lying. i believe this woman. i believe people, i believe survivors. and it's not just personal to him, he is now drug an entire family into this. a woman he had a trial with child, with that child knows part of a story that maybe they did not know. and pretty soon that child will be, what about family values there? at some point we don't have to agree on policy, but at some point right is right, and wrong is wrong. and it's just getting to a point where like my heart is racing right now, it's so hypocritical that we say that this is a personal issue. but then when other people who will support abortion say it's a personal issue, no, no, no. >> let me just say, i want to read what the woman said, the reason that she said that she made the decision to come forward to the extent that she did, she said sure i was stunned. but i guess it also doesn't

shock me that maybe there are just so many of us that are truly that -- he truly doesn't remember, she said. but then again, if he really forgot about it, that says something to. now, i have to say that cnn is not independently confirmed the allegation about the abortion or that she's a mother of one of the children. and warnock has not gone over to her walker as well. the daily beast, ron, hold on allison get back, when we get run here could been sitting by patiently, the daily beast is reporting that the woman is a democrat. who had a long relationship with walker even after the abortion that she wanted to protect her family, but still came forward. another quote, i have been very civil thus far. i keep my mouth shut. i don't cause any trouble. i stay in the background. but i'm also not going to get run over, time and time again, she said. that's crazy. so, cnn has reached out to the walker campaign for comment, he flat out denied the original report, how is this playing in

your world? what do you think? >> well, first of all, there are a certain number of voters who have the same perspective that alice expressed. that view elections as fundamentally parliamentary, they're about which party you want to control of congress, not so much about individuals anymore. and that clearly is a trend in our politics. but it's another question about whether other earn enough of them, who will make that judgment to allow herschel walker to remain competitive in this race. there are two different poles out today, including one by the donald trump pollster, that had warnock over 50 with a double digit lead, that's not likely to stand up. but this is very uphill. i think at this point for herschel walker, and look, there's a reason, republicans have doubled down on supporting walker, not only because of defiance of rick scott or lindsey graham of donald trump or neutering gingrich. not because they're defiant and that's the initial instinct whenever there's an accusation against republican, particularly involving misconduct towards a woman,

there is that kind of rally around. it's not because they're defiant, it's because it's a necessity. the republican senate map, don, has fundamentally collapsed down to two real opportunities. they started the year thinking they could contest as many as six seats held by democrats, colorado and washington have fallen off the board, arizona and new hampshire have become very difficult because of trump backed nominees who are facing very high negatives, they're really down to nevada in georgia. as their only chances. and if they can't win pennsylvania, they have to win both of those in order to get the majority. to some extent, they're sticking with walker because they have no place else to go. but as lieutenant governor said, that may look increasingly put problematic in the next couple of days. >> lieutenant governor, let's bring you back in here. walker supports a total ban on abortion, including no exceptions for rape, incest and life of a mother. but this is another quote from the report, okay? he didn't express any regret, he said relax and recover, the

woman recalled, alluding to the message on the get well card walker sent along with an abortion payment. he seemed pretty pro-choice to me. he was pro-choice, obviously, she said, again, walk or flat out denies all of this. he saying it's not true. but do you think he could possibly recover from this? i mean, as for redemption, apologize, i don't know? >> certainly has the ability to do it. and that's where his hearts at, then i encouraged him to do that. at the end of the day, i think the most attractive feature of a great leader is being intellectually honest. and if we're being intellectually honest, herschel walker won the primary because he scored a bunch of touchdowns back in the 80s, and is donald trump's friend. now, we move forward several months on the calendar, that's no longer a recipe to win. if we're being intellectually honest also on the other side of the equation, we've got problems running around this country and around the world that are feeling real and

heavy. there's questions about the economy and every square inch. those are the questions that americans want to be talking about, those the issues that georgians want to be talking about. they should be easier for republicans than it is, this is i believe part of us taking our medicine as to the quality of the candidates moving forward in these important elections. >> listen, i know we've got to go here, but i've gotta get this in for our producers. alice, i know that you are raising your hand let me just say, ask ask about the role -- that he played in walker's life, the adonis woman who identifies as a christian herself, even though walker often talked about christiane eddy, he uses it when it works for him. and then went on to say, i don't think there's anywhere in the bible where it says, have four kids, with four different women, while you're with another woman, or where -- not being a president parent, or that in abortion is an okay thing to do when it's not the right time for you. but the terrible thing for anyone else to do when you're running for senate. he picks and chooses where it's convenient for him to use that

religious crutch he said. is there nothing that will change republican support? >> it all boils down to what they do in the next five weeks, truthfully. there are many republicans, my home state of georgia, that will vote for him regardless of what happens. the but there are some that are having a second look at this. the real question is, what are the independents and the undecided voters of georgia going to do? many of them are really having a bad taste in their mouth about this. but there's overwhelming sentiment by many republicans, not just me, across the country, the october surprise of this from an unnamed source putting out this type of information, some call this brett kavanaugh two point oh in terms of the timing of this. and that is why we're seeing a lot of these top name republicans going to georgia to help support him. in the next several weeks. >> to be clear, doctor blasé ford, is not an anonymous source. she was a woman who stood in

her power and told her story. and still is suffering from the attacks she said, she is not anonymous, she's a brave woman. and it's not the same thing. brett kavanaugh lied in contrast to in his confirmation hearing, and said president was precedent. and then two months ago, he showed his true colors in overturned roe. that is why we have to have this conversation, because the consistency of the people who are identifying with your party right now is not holding strong. >> i gotta go. if you could go in just a few questions. >> just a few seconds. republicans are also going to georgia because nominating so many week donald trump aligned candidates in other states have let them with no other choice if they want to try to get a majority. it's not that they want to defy the media or the democrats, it's that they really have no other place to go to try and get the senate majority. so, they're stuck playing what is a very difficult hand. >> thank you all, i appreciate. to be continued. next, cnn exclusive. a texas -- safety official who resigned

while being investigated for her response at the school shooting in uvalde, now has been hired to protect some of the very same children who survived the shooting. that story is next.

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one of the worst school shootings in history, still begging for answers and accountability. cnn has learned that one of the texas state troopers under investigation for her actions at robb elementary has a new job as a newly hired school police officer at uvalde elementary. trusted with protecting some of the same students who survived the massacre. parents of children killed at rob where the first to notice the officer on campus. recognizing her from body camera footage of the shooting. a four-year veteran of the texas department of public safety, was one of the first law enforcement officers on the scene on may 24th. she resigned from the dps over the summer and was hired by the uvalde school district school after. on the playground outside of

her new post, she can be seen here in the dark blue uniform. >> officer i'm doing a story about you and your time at dps. i would like to ask you some questions of possible. before resigning from dps, her actions in the actions of six other dps officers at the scene of the shooting were referred for further investigation. in a redacted internal memo to the organization director, obtained by cnn, dps cited quote. actions which might be inconsistent with training and department requirements as the reason for the referral. despite early efforts by state officials to blame the local police department in uvalde for the police response. timeline from body camera footage shows elizondo arrived on scene just two minutes after the shooting began. this new information now indicates that she was among several dps officers on scene

who potentially could have taken action to stop the gunman. >> subject with an a. our >> footage shows her without a tactical bulletproof vest or long rifle. i had a step with active shooter training. >> she spends most of the 77 minutes before the classroom was breached outside of the school. according to sources familiar with the investigation, she told investigators that without her gear she was not comfortable joining the others inside. >> out of nearly 400 law enforcement officers who responded to the shooting, 91 or from the texas department of public safety. seven of those officers were referred for further investigation for their conduct that day. elizondo is one of them. the other six still work for dps. while the investigation into their actions continues. it is unclear if the uvalde

school district was aware of the investigation at the time of elizondo's hiring. >> the district has not responded to emails, calls or direct questions from cnn. >> sir, do you know this officer who you have recently hired and are you aware she is under investigation for her actions on the day of the shooting? >> do you think she is fit to serve here. considering her actions are under investigation. mr. mueller. you don't want to respond to that? >> the hiring raises further questions about the department of public safety and the lack of transparency around the investigation. and the conduct of its troopers. dps did not comment for this story. >> i think this is important. >> speaking to cnn in september, director stephen mccraw promised he will resign if his agency was shown to have culpability for the botched response.

>> i will be the first to resign. i will gladly resign and tenure my resignation if i think there was any culpable evidence. okay? but we are going to hold our officers accountable. and nobody gets a pass. every officer is going to be held accountable. >> good as you can be. >> cnn learning that elizondo was recorded on video after delivering medical care to survivors. reflecting on the horrors of what she saw inside. an officer asked if her children attend robb elementary. the response was. >> my son is in daycare. he is not old enough. >> if my son had been in the, i would not have been outside. i promise you that. >> and don, we are getting reaction from family members and representatives from some of the family members who are as you can imagine, really upset by this news.

what this family representatives tell cnn is that they are disgusted and angry at the school. the school district there. for this decision to hire this officer. certainly very concerning. they have questions about what the vetting process is. how they came about to hire this officer. the other thing these family members have wanted is for these officers. these officers who are assigned to the school, by the school district. who were present the day of the shooting. they are asking again, again asking for those officers to be removed from the schools. don? >> shimon, thank you very much. for more, i want to bring in cnn national security analyst julian cayenne. julia, good evening. to this is quite an interesting turn of. events as shimon mentioned, it was the parents of the children who were killed. at robb elementary to first recognize elizondo on uvalde honorees campus. how much does that further erode trust between parents and

the district? >> absolutely erodes it. because it gets down to the process of how uvalde and state officials have been treating the families and victims. for the last few months. it is so cruel. it's like sort of hard to put words around's in terms of the. reporting >> one of the cruelties's. this that there are 91 department of public safety officials. these are the state law enforcement officials that are present. and only seven of them get under review. but one of them then leaves dps and get tired. if there is only seven that are being under review. you sort of have a whole pool of people you need to choose from. if you are desperate for law enforcement. so it's the cruelty of the process. the fact that it was the parents that had to identify that it was her on campus. and then i think is she actually qualified? you see her commenting about

well if it was my kids that i would really care. we pay police officers to treat all children as if or their children. so the whole process is just it's just a tragedy upon tragedy for these families at this stage. >> you say her hiring despite her being under investigation highlights the insulin toy insularity excuse me of the police departments. talk to me about that. >> you saw from the beginning i was with you where you see governor abbott sort of circling around the law enforcement, thank everything was great. how could you possibly look at a 19 dead children and say things were. great and that starts to fall apart. governor abbott, you never hear from again on this issue. and then each of the law enforcement agencies goes against each other. so they are all just protecting themselves. saw the secretary of public saying my people did nothing wrong. well actually, seven of them are at least being investigated.

91 of them were at the school and did nothing. and we've now learned dps has taken charge when local authorities do not essentially have control of the situation. so this is just where everyone is protecting their law enforcement employment. that is all they care about. are these police officers getting hired? are they getting paid or not. and not what in fact happened several months ago. and also what the families are hearing. and their children. their surviving children who are now attending the school. >> julián cayenne thank you so much appreciate it. >> thank you don. >> residents of florida in areas devastated by even returning to places that are completely unrecognizable and president biden there today to survey the destruction himself. wood mac ♪ you ready? ♪ ♪ ♪ can you hear me callingng ♪

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is getting back to business, the first black woman to serve on the supreme court. justice jackson made her debut on the courts bench this week, and she's already making headlines for her first court arguments. for more, i wanna bring in cnn legal analyst -- hello, reba martin, how are you. >> hello, don. how are you? >> i'm doing very well, thank you for asking. so, justice jackson has showed up and showed out during her first few days, really on the courts bench. what's your reaction to her debut? >> confidence, and the epitome, don, of black girl magic. she came out swinging. she said during her investiture ceremony, that she was going to give a voice to marginalized populations. that she now had a seat at the table, and that she was going

to use her voice to represent marginalized people. and she didn't just talk the talk, don, she is walking the top. and in her hearing, that first hearing regarding that very important alabama voting rights case, she was asking questions and she was schooling the litigants and her fellow justices on the importance of race as it relates to the 14th amendment and 15th amendment. so, i have nothing but the highest praise for ketanji brown jackson. >> one of her first cases is merrill versus milligan, it deals with whether alabama's congressional redistricting -- she pushed back on state officials emphasizing -- on racial neutrality in redistricting highlighting the 14th amendment. listen to this. >> i looked at the report that was submitted by the joint committee on reconstruction, which drafted the 14th

amendment, and that report says that the entire point of the amendment was to secure rights of the freed former slaves. the legislator who introduced that amendment said that, quote, unless the constitution should restrain them, those states will all, i fear, keep up this discrimination and crushed to death the hated friedman. that's not a race neutral or race blind idea, in terms of the remedy. and even more than that, i don't think that the historical record establishes that the founders believed that race neutrality, or race blindness, was required. right? they drafted the civil rights act of 1866, which specifically stated that citizens would have the same civil rights as enjoyed by white citizens. that's the point of that act, to make sure that the other

citizens, the black citizens, would have the same as the white citizens. >> how important was this argument, coming from justice jackson? >> incredibly important, don. and i think it foreshadows what we can expect to hear and see from justice jackson. she is going to be a champion for marginalized populations, for minority populations. she is going to fight for the rights of minorities. and this was like a classic, don, history lesson on the importance of the 14th amendment and 15th amendment. and it debunks any motion that we had color blind society, that the framers thought that this society was color blind. and she gave the litigants and her fellow justices what can only be called the epitome of a lesson about how this country has had to deal with issues of systemic racism, even dating back to those framers of those constitution realizing that the formerly freed slaves needed to

have protection by the constitution in order to be recognized and to even the playing field with respect to a white citizens and those who sought to oppress former slaves. so, the praise for justice jackson has been, you know, just enormous across legal communities, people have been praising her, have been applauding her. she didn't just sit there like a typical -- like you'd expect to see from a freshman justice. she came out swinging, and she demonstrated that her brilliance and her commitment to civil rights, her lived experiences as a black woman, are going to inform the decisions that she makes on the supreme court. >> she certainly did in that case. she made it known that she is not afraid to ask questions in a very blunt way. listen to this. >> so, i'm sorry, can i just i don't understand.

are you saying that the jingles preconditions as we ordinarily understand them was not satisfied in this case? >> yes, your honor, -- >> how so? >> it says quite clearly, account for traditional principles such as maintaining commutes of interest in traditional boundaries, there is an undisputed traditional, rather until undisputed -- the gulf community is a community of interest. and it's not maintained. so, i think it's open and shut. >> no, i'm sorry, you're saying step one was not satisfied in this case? because the ordinary redistricting principles? i thought this was about a race blind algorithm. so now i'm confused. what is the problem? >> [laughs] sorry. >> you better do your homework, don. you are going to make an argument for ketanji brown jackson.

because she knows her facts, and she is not afraid to question, to challenge the litigants. and juxtapose her, don, with clarence thomas. who is traditionally has been very quiet as oral arguments take place, before the supreme court. so you have this freshman just as he was just going for it, challenging these lawyers, and who is unapologetic in her statements about race and this country and the framing of the constitution and these amendments. so, i could not be more elated as a black woman, as a black lawyer, to have justice jackson on the court at this critical moment in our history. >> thank you, reena. i appreciate it. we'll see you soon. >> thanks, don. >> a group of black parents in georgia demanding justice and accountability for their children who were killed by police officers. what they want to see happen. next. next. n to get cash back while i'm book clubbing. cha-ching!

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>> that's the dedication to be on the corner every week and sometimes multiple times a week. they wanted on the road. talking about fulton county phony willis. who hillbillies is chasing notoriety over addressing cases like his son's death. >> what about police brutality. wrong is wrong, murder is murder, crime as crime. no matter who's doing. it >> is that why you stand on the corner right there. >> stand right here make sure they see me every day. >> under will's predecessor, conducting an investigation into the deadly shooting and recommended the officer be charged with felony murder. cnn reached out for an interview four times but we never heard back. >> what we want. ? >> the pursuit of justice might not be getting the attention once from the da but it has inspired others and in the last two years hill has been joined in his weekly demonstrations by other black families who have

also lost their children at the hands of police. parents like anthony boykins, whose 12-year-old was killed in a crash following a pit maneuver by a georgia state trooper. this year the trooper involved returned to work and the incident is pending litigation. >> it's heartache. to have to even come out here and ask for just as you know what i mean. because if i would've flipped the car i would be going to jail right now. >> cook shows up every week. to her 17 year old son was shot twice in the back by a county police officer in 2020. that officer was cleared of wrongdoing. >> it might have cleared the officer for now, but justice. >> hold on to their sanity these people understand what police brutality does to the families and communities. it challenges your mental health. >> you told me that you do not think people like fani willis or others are taking this issue seriously enough? >> nobody is taking it seriously.

people have become so selfish. to the point when it comes to lower income black people. they just don't give a. >> reading the findings from the cleves da's investigation of the shooting which was found to be unjustified and naacp president says that there should be no reason hill should be waiting this long to see the officer who shot and killed his son indicted. >> our concern is that if you are going to prosecute without fear of favor you need to go after law enforcement who violate the public trust with this same ferocity that you are going after artists, rappers and potentially former president of the united states. and in a letter to griggs willis indicated there was a backlog of 11,000 cases when she took office. with an additional 50,000 cases that she claimed were not properly closed by the previous administration. saying there are dozens of black families in atlanta. just like hill who have not yet had their cases addressed by the da's office.

as his son's case continues to languish hill says that he will keep showing up here outside of the fulton county courthouse every week hoping that today will be the day that willis cares enough to help. >> nick valencia joins me now. the crank you for joining us families rightfully demanding answers. heartbreaking to hear from and their anger is understandable. but how much can they really blame fani willis with that kind of case backlog? >> it's not just the backlog don, it is also the resources. she is asked for funding to hire more attorneys, to be able to go through these thousands of cases that she says she has inherited from a previous administration. but for the families, it is how she is spending her energy. they see their case in the case of jimmy atkinson who profiled. the previous administration has already ruled that the officer was unjustified in his use of force. so they see it as a no-brainer to take this to the grand jury. meanwhile, they see her investigating the former president donald trump. they see her going after what they believe is rappers for

wrap lyrics. while their case is more than three years old at this point and they still do not have answers. >> they are framing this is willis is going up to black young men who commit crimes, but not the police. and these families are wanting waiting for justice now but is it fair to frame it that way? >> i don't think so. i think the da's office would think that short sighted. they think that they are going after violent criminals and would also probably point to the investigation of the former president and those in his orbit. those who have gotten criminal letters are white and white collar. but for the family the point is go after the police with the same energy that you are using to go after others and other communities. >> nick valencia, thank you very, much appreciate. that and thank you for watching everyone, our coverage continues. should be something that gets you hyped up.. and that your new car ought to come with newfound happiness and zero surprises. and alall of us will stop at nothing to drive you happy. we'll drive you happy at carvana.

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>> good evening being with reporting from uvalde texas. it is hard to imagine it won't be yet another blow to the families. the 19 children and two teachers murdered at robb elementary school in may. that is because the story we are about to tell you fits into what has been a depressing since. i'm official stonewalling, bureaucratic finger-pointing, misleading or outright false statements and seemingly unfathomable reservations. such as the one that cnn's shimon prokupecz brings us tonight. it has been like this from the start. >> as horrible as what happened. it could have been worse. the reason it was not worse, is because law enforcement officials did what they do. and