>> reporter: there is the suspect. he looks up at the camera, takes out a weapon. it's monday morning, 9:02 a.m. minute later, the back door open. brothers jasdeep and amandeep singh are usherred out of their trucking business by the suspect, a former employee. they're zip tied, driven away. minutes later, the suspect is back. this time he takes jasleen kaur and her eight-month-old baby, aradio hi derry. >> please help us come forward. >> reporter: they never came home. their bodies found by a farm worker last night just hours after that plea, slaughtered, authorities believe where they lay. >> there is no word right now to describe the anger i feel and the senselessness of this incident. i said it earlier, there's a special place in hell for this guy, and i mean it. >> reporter: officials think all four were murdered, uncle, two parents, and their tiny baby,

before they were even reported missing, monday, lunchtime. >> this is a peace-loving family, and running a small business in the mersed area. >> the suspect is manuel jesus delgado. he was tried for robbery. he attempted suicide before he was taken into custody after a tip from his own family. >> you really want to wish we were in the wild west to take this guy out and string him up. but we have a judicial system. with goerg use the judicial system. >> he is now talking to investigators. >> right now he's the only definite suspect i fully believe that we will uncover and find out that there was more than just him involved. when we are able to release everything, should anger the hell out of you on how things went down. >> reporter: now, no motive has

been revealed so far. but the sheriff says in cases like this, it is usually financial. it is usually greed. and worth noting one of the victims' atm cards was used the day after we believe they were murdered. as for charges, we are told to expect a decision, anderson, sometime the middle of next week. back to you. >> awful. nick watt, thank you. just ahead i'll speak with georgia lieutenant governor. financial picture. yol a plan with tax-smsmart investing strategies designed to helplp you keep more of what you earn. this i is the planning effect.

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our first guest in this hour is the republican lieutenant governor of georgia who has just written that the republican candidate for georgia is the wrong choice, quoting now, we only have ourselves to blame. talking about herschel walker, the abortion opponent who is reported by t daily beast to have paid for a woman's abortion, a woman whose identity walker claimed not to know, which then again disclosed to "the daily beast" that she and walker also have a child together. herschel told hue hewitt if he'd done it, he'd have said so because there's nothing to be ashamed of there. he was asked about that comment to hugh hewitt. >> you said there's nothing to be ashamed of -- >> i never said -- no, what i was talking about something

totally different that happened. my ex-wife and in my past, nothing to do with what this woman said. i said this here, the abortion thing, is false. it's a lie. >> it's not entirely clear what he was trying to say. here to talk about it, georgia lieutenant governor geoff duncan. lieutenant governor duncan, appreciate you being with us. what do you make of what we heard from herschel walker today on hugh hewitt and his attempt to explain it afterward? >> i think an important place for me to sart is it is no fun for me to have to talk about this at the end of the day. herschel walker is the only chance we've got to have a republican represent us in the u.s. senate. it's a conversation that has to happen and it's part of the process of the party healing. unfortunately, republicans looked around to see who donald trump supported and he was a

famous football player, so he became our nominee. and now we're paying the price for that. >> that's why you think herschel walker is in this race, because republicans who decided to look for somebody who the former president supported, that was the main criteria? >> yeah. and, you know, there's been some distance and time that's travelled and that's not a winning recipe anymore. i think the beginning of this whole process campaign cycle, it meant a lot. you're watching in georgia and all over the country, republican candidates distancing themselves, deleting social media with donald trump, trying to push back because they realize it's not popular anymore. and there's such a plethora of areas to talk about. the stock market was down 350 points today. mortgage rates have doubled, headed to being tripled. we've got inflation roaring. it literally feels like the world is on fire, and this is what we're talking about. as republicans, i think we ought to be the party of ideas again and this is the goal and opportunity for us to do that. >> cnn is reporting that walker's allies want a more

trumpian response to the abortion allegations. i'm not sure what that would look like. when you hear that, what does that -- i mean, does that make any sense to you? >> well, that brings back memories of kelly loeffler and david perdue, who bit on donald trump's hook during their runoffs. and that's really what started this whole process of losing these republican senate seats in a republican state. you've got a governor right now who's high single digits, headed to double digits ahead in his race because he's talking about the things that matter. he's talking about the things that georgians worry about when they wake up in the morning and right now, these are uncomfortable times in this country. >> if then-candidate donald trump could survive the "access hollywood" tape, isn't this something herschel walker could survive if enough republicans don't care about what kind of character a candidate has as long as that person is a body that will vote in the way that they want that person to vote? >> well, i'm going to leave that up to him and his team to figure

out how they work through this. i don't know the facts and figures. i haven't spent any time dissecting all the details buchlt i'm certainly listening to it like millions of other georgians are listening to. and i just think if there's any chance for folks to win around the country, not just herschel walker, but you've got other states that shouldn't be this hard, anderson. we republicans have a lot to point at that's not going right in this country, and the middle is upset. if we want to win, we've got to win the middle and we've got to win our side. and we're certainly blowing this opportunity. it certainly feels just like how i felt when we were in the runoff phase post-election. those seats should have been won by david perdue and kelly loeffler. >> you are a loyal republican. you want a republican candidate to win. would you vote for herschel walker? >> i spent the last ten years in the state house and as a lieutenant governor championing some of the most conservative policies. my campaign, i was accused of being too conservative. but i was one that was willing to build con consensus.

i'm like hundreds of thousands of other georgiaens. we're confused. we don't really have anywhere to go right now. >> if you're not going to vote for a democrat and don't want to vote for a walker, do you think some republicans will just be turned off and stay away? >> no, i think republicans are going to show up and vote for brian kemp and state-wide candidates up and down. they've done a great job. brian kemp has done better than any other governor in the country with dealing with the pandemic and civil unrest and the economy and growth. i mean, they're going to show up and vote. it's up to the walker campaign to figure out how they're going to get them to convince them to vote for him. >> from what you've said, it seems like you would not vote for herschel walker today. is there anything he could say that would change your mind? >> look, i have no idea what the next five weeks have for us. but i'm disappointed.

i'm disappointed we've put republicans in this state and quite honestly this country. donald trump led us down a rabbit trail postelection because he was too consumed with trying to save face from losing his election. and he ran us down a trail and we screwed up. we elected democrats in a republican state that turned the tide and gave joe biden and kamala harris the keys to every decision with no checks and balances. >> a appreciate your time tonight. >> thank you, anderson. perspective from dana bash, and also david axelrod. dana, do you think a more, quote, trumpian response, to this controversy from herschel walker, which is apparently what some republicans want, would make much of a difference? >> it's hard to imagine herschel walker's response being more trumpian. i know that this is what trump's people around him are telling some of my colleagues, gabby orr being one of them. and i'm hearing some of that too. but what herschel walker is

doing is ripped straight from the donald trump playbook, which by the way, other republicans and candidates in general have done or at least tried to do since donald trump burst onto political scene. the biggest parallel, i think, is herschel walker because part of the reason donald trump has been able to ride so many storms is because of his celebrity. well, herschel walker, particularly in the state of georgia, is the ultimate celebrity because of his football status there. and so the fact that he is denying, which is trump playbook, that he is aggressively denying, and then also trying to pivot back to the issues, that is very trump. i will tell you, republican sources i've talked to who are involved in these -- in this campaign and just electing herschel walker, they say that they do wish that he would be more aggressive on the pivot side and less about the defense. >> david, as a candidate, walker

is clearly not as -- what would be the word? >> agile. >> as agile or coherent as trump. walker said today that while he still denies this, if it had happened, quote, there's nothing to be ashamed of there, unquote. and then later in the day, when asked about that comment, he claimed he wasn't talking about the alleged abortion. his explanations are convoluted. do they align with any political strategy? >> well, no. and, you know, the thing that was most confusing to me is that they aired an ad starting today in which he talks about his past battles with mental illness and talks about redemption. and it sounded very much like an explanation for past behavior at the very same time that he was denying stories that have been written about him. so, the whole thing seems pretty confused. that said, anderson, i long

since gave up predicting big shifts of voters based on these kinds of stories. i think trump taught us that. the thing is this is a marginal race. so, marginal differences can make a difference. i don't think this is going to be good for walker. and in a marginal race, it could be -- it could make the difference against him. >> dana, what are you hearing from capitol hill republicans right now? how concerned are they? senator mitch mcconnell obviously previously bemoaned the quality of gop candidates. >> they are bemoaned for the exact reason david just articulated. this is an incredibly tight race. this is also the race or the state that decided the majority of the senate in favor of the democrats two years ago. so, they're well aware of the importance of the state and understand, as you said, anderson, that herschel walker, despite what i said before, that he is very well known and well regarded as a football player is

very complicated and controversial for all of the reasons that we're talking about now with regard to these allegations that he denies about paying for an abortion, even though he's pro-life but also lots of other sort of things that would have taken down any candidate just a few years ago, like it suddenly coming out that he has four different children with four different women and so on and so forth, that that is definitely not a plus. particularly when you're asking about these voters who are increasingly independent. there aren't a ton of them, but they exist and they're trying to decide between these two candidates. and those are the voters that republicans i talk to are obviously most worried about. >> david, if you're advising the warnock campaign, what would you tell him to actually kind of lean into these allegations, call herschel walker a hypocrite, or, you know, stand back, which is what they've

essentially been doing, not engaging on the personal and talking about abortion, but not making it personal. >> yeah, man. you know, there's an old rule in politics when your opponent is destroying himself, get out of the way. >> get out of the way. >> i think that's the rule -- that is the rule that i think the warnock campaign is following. and you could see in the ad that he posted today and in his comments to the media that warnock wants to -- walker wants to draw warnock in, wants to blame him for these stories. i think it would be foolish for warnock to engage in any way. >> yeah. david axelrod, dana ash bash, thank you, appreciate it. president biden's answer just moments ago to vladimir putin's nuclear bluster. what he said tonight about invoking one of the darkest moments of the cold war. and later more reporting on what could mean more trouble as far as possible charges for the presididential son hunter biden.

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we're just days away from the 60th anniversary of cuban missile crisis, when the two countries went to the brink of war until cooler heads prevailed. talking about vladimir putin's threat to use tactical nukes in ukraine, president biden invoked that moment. kaitlan collins has more on what he said, and she joins me now. talk about the words the president used. >> reporter: it must have been pretty striking for the donors today, as the president was invoking armgeddon, saying there has not been a sich like this since october 1962 when of course these threats were being made. and the president making clear tonight that he is taking these seriously. what stands out, anderson, about the president's comments is he is speaking in more blunt terms that we have heard any of his officials talk in recent weeks. they have said they are taking putin seriously at his war when he says they've communicated to the russians what the

consequences would be if russia were to deploy a nuclear weapon. but they have not gone so far as the president to say this is the closest we've come to armgeddon since kennedy and the cuban missile crisis. one remark president biden made to the donors tonight that he knows president putin, he said, quote, he is not joking when he talks about the potential use of tactical nuclear weapons or biological or chemical weapons because his military is significantly underperforming. speaking to setbacks on the battlefield, the unpopular draft that putin has put in place for men in russia that has caused people to flee. and president biden has made it clear he's taking this seriously. he says i don't think there's an ability to use a tactical nuclear weapon and not end up with armgeddon. those are really striking comments that the president made. this is a closed door fund-raiser, so these are not on camera. but reporters were in the same room, in the same house where

the president was speaking and making these remarks ptonight. and one of the things that stood out was a comment he made about putin finding a way out. he said the united states is trying to find out what could be a way out for putin, what he believes the way out. that's a comment he made five months ago back in may when he was talking about the state of the war in ukraine that russia is conducting, and making it clear if russia is trying to save face on the world stage, it's not clear to them what that looks like. >> from the white house, joining us you retired general mark he hertling. do you agree this is the closest moment we've come to armgeddon since the cuban missile crisis? >> certainly a possibility. whenever you're talking about nuclear weapons, and there's a lot of individuals who have participated in what are called war games and seeing the escalation capability of whenever a first element uses a

nuclear weapon, how it escalates rapidly. in fact, kiddingly, i heard one individual at a war game say, hey, all it takes is a hand-gre-nuke, prescribing that to a small weapon that would escalate very quickly. i think the president has been concerned about the potential for mr. putin using nuclear weapons. he has threatened that way both before in a nuanced way and an overt way. the entirety of this conflict i think there has always been the potential for mr. putin to use nuclear weapons. but when you think about how they would be used, there are all kinds of various courses of actions. and none of them have any rational thought behind them. the targeting of a nuclear weapon, even a tactical nuclear weapon, in this kind of conflict would not make any sense. but then again we're dealing with an individual who hasn't made sense from the very beginning. and that's mr. putin in term of

the execution of this conflict. >> when you talk about a tactical nuclear weapon, how might that be used on a battlefield? and, you know, how large of an area does that impact? >> well, during the cold war, anderson, those tactical nuclear weapons were targeted at areas where there were large troop concentrations. when you say large, i'm talking about a core of say, 80,000 people and a lot of tanks. and the tactical nuclear weapons size could be anywhere from five kilometers to 20 kilometers. that's much smaller than the kind of nuclear weapon that hit at nagasaki or hiroshima, but it's still a tactical nuclear weapon that has long after-effects. so, what you're talking about is the potential for hitting a large formation, having an exhibition nuclear weapon, what you would explode it overhead or in the north sea or something like that, to demonstrate a resolve of using it. and there are several other

scenarios that i don't want to get into here because they're all just very scary, but they put the enemy in a position to say, hey, this person is serious. unfortunately, whenever you show you're serious about using them, the other side that has nuclear weapons says, we're serious about it too. or we may conduct operations which would cause a significant amount of damage to your force. and there's been all kinds of discussion of what that might be. >> which is why the president, i guess, said tonight that in his view the use of a tactical nuclear weapon could likely lead to, quote, armgeddon, that if one side chooses to use it in ukraine, for instance, in this case, if russia did that, then i guess the u.s. would -- is that what -- how does that war game out? >> well, you're talking about the potential for drastic escalation. you can answer a nuclear weapon with a whole panoply of

conventional forces. this might be something that would cause nato to do something. it might cause the potential attack on the russian black sea fleet. it could cause the potential attack on the basing where the launch sites where the nuclear weapons come from within russia. ukraine can't do those kind of things, but nato and the united states can. and then you can see the probability of what mr. biden said, the potential for armgeddon, because once the initial action is made -- and this is why so many members of the administration has warned mr. putin's administration not to do this. once the potential of this occurs, it's very difficult to restrain yourself from reacting to it. >> general hertling, i appreciate it. thank you. ominous, but i appreciate it. more tonight on ukraine's gains. as we mentioned earlier, president zelenskyy today said ukrainian forces have taken back more than 500 square kilometers of territory in the kherson region in less than hay week.

last night cnn international reporter nick paton walsh, he is back tonight with new details. nick, what's the status of the ukrainian advance in the kherson region? >> some remarkable numbers given out by ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy saying that over half, a thousand, square kilometers of territory had been taken since just october 1st. that pretty much confirms, possibly goes a little bit further than the map from the russian defense minister we saw a couple of days ago. it shows an extraordinary series of advances here. we've seen ourselves in videos of american-supplied humvees races across the open expanses here, quite how ferocious their moves are and put under enormous pressure the capital of kherson which is on what seems to be the wrong side of the dnipro river where the advances are happening. >> a lot of the progress has been in rural parts of kherson.

is there a time frame for when ukraine can make an attempt to take that city you mentioned? >> it's hard to predict that essentially because they do appear to be choosing to surround russian stronghold, which has been very successful over the past two months or so. and that could well have success in literally a matter of days because we do know that russian forces have been under supply. they've been knowing this has been coming. they've been trying to reinforce themselves. possibly they've been asking for more strategic withdrawal. or it could take weeks if they do dig in and hold. what we do know this is an urgent question for russian politicians who are openly bickering about how bad this is going. >> vladimir putin is claiming zaporizhzhia, the nuclear power plant there, he's claimed as a russian federal asset. what's been the response from the ukrainians? >> obviously ukraine says that's still part of ukraine, it's part

of territory russia claimed in its false annexation. vladimir putin is essentially trying to remind people this is a card he could play, the card, i mean, sort of staged action to some degree. ukraine says, look, there are hundred of russian troops on that site and russian hardware as well. the u.n. nuclear watchdog, the iaea are on the ground. they need to maintain the safety of the plapt, but there was anger from ukraine's president about how they hadn't been more forthright in condemning russia's presence there. though the iaea said we don't recognize their presence under international law. that's how the u.n. sees the russian annexation of this. but it is an enormous flash point in the conflict here because it's some form of nuclear threat from moscow. >> appreciate it. be careful. thank you. coming up next, breaking news and possibly more information coming out of -- excuse me.

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additional government documents remain at mar-a-lago even after the fbi search in august. she reports that justice department officials have recently demanded the following of attorneys from the former president that he return any outstanding documents marked as classified. this according to a person familiar with the demand. this building on reporting from the "new york times" stating the department of justice believes it is being prevented from even knowing what it might have missed. it came from a florida federal judge who -- appeals court panel with a majority appointed by the former president. more now from cnn's jessica schneider. >> reporter: judge cannon owes her nomination to the federal bench to donald trump. and now she's front and center in the president's legal fight, siding with trump's team to -- a decision which is now being

appealed and has been criticized. >> it's really a very pro-plaintiff, pro-trump ruling in all respects. >> reporter: not only by political pundits but also three judges on the 11 circuit court of appeals, two of them trump appointees who are describe cannon's initial ruling pausing the doj documented marked classified untenable. the 11 circuit ultimately allowed the doj to continue its probe into the handling of classified material while the special master reviewed thousands of other documents. judge cannon also ruled last week that trump did not have to officially declare in court whether fbi agents planted items at mar-a-lago, something trump and his allies have repeatedly said in public. the special master had requested trump improve his claims but cannon stepped if had and stopped it. judge cannon has not responded to cnn's request for comment on her decisions. but when asked in 2020 during her confirmation if she had any

discussions about loyalty to donald trump, she unequivocally wrote, no. jason men droe worked with cannon while both practiced at gibson dunn a decade ago. >> i still don't know anything about her politics today. >> so, she wasn't overtly political. >> no. >> reporter: aileen cannon was working as a prosecutor when senator marco rubio's office reached out about a possible nomination to the bench in 2019. senator rubio gave this statement today. judge cannon is a great judge who i am very proud to have enthusiastically supported. the attacks against her are just the latest example of hypocrisy from leftists and their media enablers who believe the only time it is acceptable to attack a judge is if that judge rules against what they want. rubio isn't the only florida

republican cannon is linked to. she met with counsel for republican senator rick scott just before she was nominated. >> my sincere thanks to my home state senators. >> reporter: and records show she donated $100 to republican governor ron desantis in 2018. she's been a judge for less than two years, but she said her judicial philosophy will be to follow the history and text of the constitution. and she shared her personal story to stress the rule of law, talking about her mother fleeing venezuela. >> thank you for teaching me about the blessing in this country and for giving me the importance of the rule of law for generations to come. >> jessica schneider, cnn, washington. >> more on this now, joining us is berkeley law professor john ewe, and nancy gertner, former federal judge.

judge gertner, how do you think judge cannon has handled everything so far in terms of the decisions she's made. >> the notion she met with the senators before she was confirmed. we all met with senators before being confirmed. that's par for the course. that doesn't suggest she's tilting in any direction. put it this way. she appoints a special master because she's concerned about the appearance of partiality. and then she intervenes in the decisions that the special master makes. she appoints the special master because she thinks that will be more expeditious, and then she messes around with the deadlines that he sets. so, she's behaving -- if she was concerned about the appearance of propriety, the appearance of fairness, all of her decisions are inconsistent with that, and that's trouble. >> john, what do you make of that? >> i think she's a young judge. she hasn't been on the bench very long. and just dropped in her lap, this really complicated case, high-profile case. i don't blame her for calling in hay special master. to me, it seemed like she was

calling in the cavalry. she hasn't had much experience with classified information with the intelligence ago agencies. i think they was hoping to create time where the trump people and the justice department might reach an agreement that would stop these forces from coming and hitting each other head on. but unfortunately that's what's happened. instead of drawing the temperature down, both side versus been escalating through this process where it's almost as if the justice department has painted itself into a corner that they're going to have to go for an indictment and president trump is going to claim that the justice department intelligence agencies are biased against him. >> as you know former president trump asked the court to intervene over documents seized from mar-a-lago. do you think the court has the appetite for this? >> no, i have to say, i think the odds of the court taking this are very, very low.

when i clerked the, the clerk's job is to sift through these petitions and find the cases the supreme court should take out of the thousands and thousands of petitions. the court is not there to correct errors. it's not there because it thinks a lower court judge might have made a mistake. they're there to settle large national problems, where the lower courts are divided, something important like roe vs. wade, vks. what they're not going to do is go into a case that has messy facts like this, where there's no split in the lower court. we used to call something like, this is error correction. it's split list. and it's fact bound. and that would be the kiss of death for any petition. and i think that accurately describes this case. >> judge gertner, do you think the legal strategy by the former president, taking this to the supreme court, is a delay tactic? >> i think it's not only a delay tactic. first of all, this is not a complicated case. there is no excuse, none, zip, for having classified information in your beach house. there is just none.

there's no conceivable basis for that. so, i mean, i don't think -- i think that what he's doing is if you say this is unfair, this is unfair, in every forum you can find, maybe people will believe it's unfair and not step back and say what is this about. this is about classified documents that you dumped in your beach house, for which there is no explanation and no excuse. >> john, have you seen any explanation or excuse that makes sense that? >> i think -- this is really i think the problem with trump's strategy. i agree with judge gertner that you're not allowed to have classified information in your house. you're not allowed to have it anywhere outside a government facility. trump, i think, he seems to have violated the law, either him or the people around him. and they are trying, i think, to just keep kicking the can down the road, hope something's going to happen. but i can't see what their end game here is. they don't seem to have a really long-term strategy that results

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there's new reporting tonight that likely has the white house's attention. "the washington post" first had the story. the headline, federal agent sees tax purchase case against hunter biden. trump appointee must decide whether to charge the son of the current president. this follows cnn reporting back in july, the prosecutors, fbi, and irs investigators were discussing similar potential charges. what is this that you have learned, devlin? >> so, what we've been told is that for a number of months, the federal agents who have worked the hunter biden administration believe they have a chargeable case. that's important but it's not the end decision because ultimately this will be decided by the u.s. attorney in delaware who is a holdover from the trump administration. >> what have investigators zeroed in on that they think would stand up in court? >> so, there's a couple things.

on the tax front, there's a lot of the particulars we don't know for certain. but what we are told is that one of the major issues here is did hupter biden declare all of his income because if you'll recall, the republicans have made a big talking point both from 2020 election on about his business deals. and so the investigators are looking at, did he declare all the income from those deals. and then as far as the gun charge goes, he bought a gun in 2018. and on that paperwork, he said he was not using or addicted to drugs. and in his autobiography, he describes using drugs quite frequently during that time period. so, that's another potential legal pitfall for him. >> is it clear to what extent attorney general garland, who was obviously appointed by hunter biden's father, is involved with this case? >> so, when he's been asked about this, attorney general garland has made very clear that this is a case being supervised by the u.s. attorney in

delaware. now, obviously the u.s. attorney reports to the attorney general. but the attorney general has promised there will be no political interference or meddling of any kind with that case being handled by that republican appointed attorney general. but >> obviously, this case is so intertwined with politics and suspicion about possible wrongdoing or mishandling people will lock at this very closely. >> do you have a sense how likely the investigation will move forward to a prosecution? >> i really don't know the answer to that. one of the things you see, for example, if you take just the subset of gun cases, in gun cases the year that hunter biden made that gun purchase about 60% of the time federal agents recommended charging, prosecutors charged that individual. so i don't think it's by any means certain you will see ultimately an indictment out of this. what we are reporting is that federal agents believe that there is a chargeable case here.

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this is "don lemon tonight." breaking news. a chilling warning from the president of the united states. president joe biden at fundraiser in new york warning about the dangers of vladimir putin's threats to use nuclear weapons as his forces suffer setbacks in ukraine. the president saying for the first time since the cuban missile crisis we have the threat of a nuclear weapon and warning of what he calls the prospect of armageddon. straight to cnn's kaitlan collins with the latest. good evening. these comments from president biden are frightening. what did he say? >> frightening, alarming, blunt. a lot of words to describe these comments that president biden made tonight in a closed door democratic fundraiser in new york. he spoke, frankly, about what he believes is the actual real threat that putin is posing right now when he talks about this threat of nuclear war. we have seen him kind of dangle out there in the speeches he has

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