so i'm guessing i don't really have to remind anyone that this thing called midterm elections are about a month away. and the gloves are officially off. i think >> tonight there was this fiery debate. between public and j.d. vance. and we have some of the particularly spicy moments from that play for you. and we've also got some

interesting moments we are going to talk about. let's play some of those though. okay or first let's bring in our smart people. >> [interpreter] no i want to spice. >> okay let's bring them in. all right so my strange work has been, -- >> am i in the wrong seat? should i switch? lean over for the love. stay up late for us tonight. and you do a new day tonight. >> john berman is actually -- who are also joined by -- or certainly happy to have you here as well. >> then we just have flores become a bookcase. i wasn't gonna say anything. i saw my bookcase at home. >> i appreciate you, it was nice. >> two people on her was going on and how? tonight there is a debate. how play some of the sound of what these two gentlemen just to each other.

>> i think the problem is when you have guys like j.d. vance who can stand up to anybody by just a week ago and youngkin on the stage. donald trump said today defense all you do is kiss my butt to get my support. he said that. that is back, that means j.d. vance can do whatever he wants. he's been a pain in the rented that pelosi. >> i will be a pain in the rare and to him. i am for a highway, i don't kiss anyone's but like him. ohio needs in but kicker, not about kisser. >> so john, but kissing is bad? >> but kicking is good, according to tim ryan. >> when he's trying to lean into his law firm began his campaign is trying to say that he is genuine ohio. and j.d. vance, he says, he wants a silicone valley is try to lay that out and create that

distinction. and he did, yes, hub over her slide. but all means he was prepared for the debate, which is probably a good idea. >> i was walking to a debate with the takeaway line. clearly that was his mind, but the big message that both of them are trying to paint the other as. was the elitist. you know, brian was trying to paint j.d. vance's elite. and nasa tried to paint j.d. vance has a trump totally. and a flip-flop or. but the reality is they're both going to paint each other in their own light. but the bigger issue that i think a lot of people are watching for tonight was crime. heather go to address crime. that is a big issue whether really get into nuts and bolts of an issue that people in ohio are really concerned with. and that is where we saw the rubber meets the road. and those different temps on how to fight crime. >> top mcculloch rhyme keith. i think it of our democracy isn't fair and free and listen

to this and i watch responses but what they're saying about election deniers are deciding to. >> this is the crowther j.d.'s running run with. the election deniers. the extremists. that is not ohio. that is not rob portman, that is not george floyd of itch, that is not share and round. that is not for us. he is running with an extreme element here that is very very dangerous. >> first of all, robert endorsed me of course. i find this interesting how preoccupied you are with us at a time when people can't afford groceries, people can't afford to walk down the street safely. let us focus on the significant issues right now tim. >> people can't afford to walk down the street safely. people can't afford to go to the capitol and be safe in this country. because people are actually attacking them. j.d. vance, not only encourage this in some sense but he actually raise money for the insurrectionist. i think tim ryan made that

point today. so i think the idea that the republicans are just hammering away at the crime issue is that democrats like paul begat and has said that democrats have to be more responsive and responded to that. how can you say that you are a party that is against crime when donald trump is your leader and you are supporting in insurrection against the united states capitol. >> this is really easy for republicans to address that. it is 365 days a year and we are looking at many democratic candidates that are soft on crime. they advocated for talking about a bail reform and soft on crime policies. they're talking about defund the police. >> republicans are talking defunding the fbi but the republicans love being hard on criminals. when the criminals are people who look like me. when the criminals or people look at donald trump, they don't seem to care about that as much. they're willing to excuse it. when it comes to people who do things like even herschel walker.

they're willing to excuse that. it is all about who serves the interest of the republican party at that moment it can't be situational politics if you expect people to take it seriously, as a party. >> look at the polling numbers. issues that are really important to the american people, whether it is immigration, inflation, the economy, or whether this crime. the top issues for voters, they trust republicans. >> one of the points are making is that it is not democracy. j.d. france says there how can you be preoccupied. or how preoccupied you are. basically, he met with democracy. >> hakeem thing by democracy all the time? >> look, i think if you listen to what tim ryan did there you get something very specific. he's trying to position himself as a sort of third political party ohio. the ohio party. he's in the democrat, the republicans. >> the ohio state university. he referenced george wojtowicz.

rob portman who are two republicans who did very well in ohio. then also sharon brown a democrat who is doing well in ohio. he's trying to put himself as whole highly first. and he needs to do that. why? because donald trump won ohio by eight points in 2020. so he's going into this knowing this is a state that is weaning red. more than leading red is heavy right at this point. so he's got to something different than democrats. >> we are seeing this every time in pennsylvania. he's been ocean this outsider. now, it is who is pennsylvanian that. between fetterman and gnaws. who is that person. you laugh, but that whole comment today about who looks the part. who plays a part. who is relayed-able? the people of that calm walk this instance. >> you don't imagine new jersey and a home in florida. you try to run for office in pennsylvania. nobody really buys that in terms of your authenticity. the same way with herschel walker take go back to him again. even though i know the university of georgia, i was a huge football star there. he's been living in texas for the past how many years. and he comes back to georgia just because donald trump

wanted him to run for office there. i think it's a big problem here is donald trump. donald trump recruited j.d. vance. donald trump recruited herschel walker and donald trump recruited doctor oz. he recruited all these people like blake masters because he won these elections nice and people supported him. instead of what was best for the republican party. and the republican party, i, think may or may not agree with me. i think they are regretting that, to certain extent. >> i know you're preoccupied democracy. i agree with keep boykin on everything you said. >> wow. >> that's end of the segment. we're done, rosa commercial. >> because donald trump did self appoint and put his name behind and push and fund-raise for and really endorse candidates that are not only elections knives, there are conspiracy theories, and their people who are far-right. even the republican party and they had a huge uphill battle on what was the midas trump of trump for the primary.

and it is an anchor for the general election. all of them had an uphill battle. you're completely correct in terms of distancing themselves from those policies. and becoming more moderate for the general election. >> i'm waiting for the. but >> there is no but. because, i have said this for a long time. there are very far right for the primary and it's uphill battle. but they [laughs] they have made progress in moving to the middle. it is still an uphill battle. many of these states there strategically added that heat. a higher shouldn't be a dead heat. it should be in an easy win. >> ohio is a lot closer than should be for the publicans. and part of that a candidates. >> what hereby you all but also people out there. can we have a lot more to talk about and we want to know you think about tonight as well to talk about today to republicans prowling around herschel walker. we saw about the with her

client. so you can find us on twitter. all right, so also, straight out of the twitter burst. we have a viewer also weighing in on the herschel walker controversy. this is from my kick. the eight weeks of the gop is the party of win it all cost. unlike them, they never hold their candidates and the standards, how franken, katie hill, are two recent examples. i think that kind of echoes what paul was saying. the democrats do that. >> democrats -- but but [inaudible] but the gop is a part of when it all cost. >> that's fine cause that's been part of the conversation that we've had to go in place here as well. but the idea is there was this conversational couple years ago about democrats republicans in the high ground. battling to figure out who was

afraid to lose -- what it is our chance we do xyz. is that still about this day though, do you think? the moral high ground? or is that gone? >> it is not in georgia. i mean, the moral high ground now is under george with herschel walker. because for it to be high ground people won't be going there tomorrow, it's the day. i've lost track of time. they are there on tuesday. whether that is tomorrow today. and democrats, what is interesting, and the good question is whether democrats would do it again. what they do all franken again? i don't know the answer to that question. because, you talked a lot democrats in the regret. >> i do think herschel walker does happen to be the case the shore of someone who is flawed candidate, who is in a very tight race, and if he was behind by ten points. i guarantee we wouldn't even be talking about this. but the fact is, this is a dead heat and this is a red state. and georgia. my home state. democrats are going full bore

at all cost to make sure that they highlight his past, instead of what he's trying to do for the future of the people of georgia. >> and one of the points that they already lost the state to joe biden. in 2020. and they lost the two senate seats. so democrats. and this red state so they're already feeling badly because they're listening to donald trump who had been for donald trump make himself the center potentially much the whole georgia and the senate. keep the comments coming everyone or at the lower codes. we want to hear from you. >> stick around everyone. next, i, want to talk to the candidate who actually gave birth to her campaign ad. it is the best campaign ad you've ever seen. it is -- i have so many questions. and how did she look so good in labor. some of the questions, we are back.

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with the midterms looming, the campaigns are getting personal. really personal. a congressional candidate in louisiana gives birth to a baby in her new campaign ad. >> my husband and daughter helped me carry the chickens. and there's someone else who's going to be joining us, and helping with the farm life very soon. but, these days, i worry about storms that are stronger and more frequent because of climate change. about our kids, underperforming public schools. and about louisiana's new abortion ban. one of the strictest and most severe in the country. >> we should be putting pregnant women at ease. not putting their lives at risk.

i haven't spent my career in washington. i've worked my way up from bartender to ceo. now, i have nurses, organizer complicated health records -- because nurses aren't just heroes. they are scenes. louisiana deserves better than the path we're on. i am katie darling. and i'm running for congress. because i want that better path. for you! for her! and for him! >> and katy darling joins us now. she's a democratic candidate running for congress in louisiana. katie, that is the most remarkable campaign ad i've ever seen. how did you do that? well, it was a pretty natural process. thank you so much. i am really proud of it. >> but how did you get the idea. whose idea was it to say, you know what, you know what you should do, you should give birth in your campaign ad. did you say that?

was it a campaign manager? how did that happen? >> well, my pregnancy is what ultimately got me into the race. so as we were deciding how to introduce me as a candidate and how to share my story, it was a natural evolution of what was happening in my life. and, so i did work with a couple of talented folks to put it together. but it was just really organic what was happening in my life at the time. and the purpose of my campaign was to share that story of being pregnant in louisiana right now. >> i mean, it's so well done. because it actually -- you know, you don't really know until the reveal at the end where you have your newborn in your arms that that's all real. that that was all actually happening. who was taping this? >> we had two cinematographers from louisiana that worked with

us on capturing that moment. >> i promise i'm going to get to the issue. do you want to talk about in one minute. but how did you look so good in labor. >> did i? it was all a blur. in the moment, that's just how i look when i gave birth. there was no makeup, no hair, that's just me. >> it's remarkable. and so, katie, tell us the larger point here. i mean, tell us what, you know, family planning means in louisiana and what the abortion issue has done for your state. >> well, i was seven months pregnant when roe v. wade was overturned. and there was a trigger of abortion ban that went into effect immediately. and i became terrified of what could happen to me if i had a complication during my pregnancy entering my birth. i had a high risk pregnancy. and my first instinct was to

move out of state. but i recognize that not everybody can do that. and that is why i chose to get in this congressional race. and to make sure that reproductive rights are available for all people in our country. so, folks at louisiana are currently dealing with this complicated abortion ban and legislation that is very confusing that is criminalizing women, pregnant people and doctors. it is very problematic. and it's putting people in harm's way. >> well, i can't imagine a better way to get people's attention them to give birth on camera and to run for office simultaneously. so, katie darling, thank you very much for sharing your story with us and for letting us play that ad. really interesting to see that tactic. and you were able to pull it off. so thanks for your time tonight. and, you have a newborn. >> thank you.

>> thank you. so, i am no longer going to say, i woke up like this. i'll say, i gave birth like this. >> how did she -- she was in labor during that campaign ad. and she made it look easier than i remembered being. >> oh, i had c-sections. i had epidural. but when i look at these issues i say, it got your attention. and then it was, look, i was seven months pregnant she said when roe v. wade was overturned. we're talking about a lot of people making decisions to run for office. very close in time. because the urgency -- and the, edwards by the, way that's one, it but the ad wars are actually heating up as we get closer and closer to the midterms. but some of the, adds maybe more effective than others. we want to look at those, next with our panelists who are standing by. ...and recalibrate your safety system. >> customer: and they recycled my old glass. >> tecech: don't wait. schedule today. >> singers: ♪ safelitite repai, safelite replace. ♪

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so, time is starting to run up. but it makes it a tight midterm races to really ran over their voters. and the best way to do it, finally finding the campaign ads. but they're blasting them all over the airways. some of them are personal. some of them are a little bit cheeky. some of them are pulling out the knives. some are just giving birth. what is it that is going to take to have voters really change their mind now? or five weeks away, alice stewart and keith boykin. and, can we first talk about their interview? >> i will never get over that campaign. ed john, have you ever seen anything like it? >>, well we had twins. right i was there when the twins were born. so i have seen something like. it >> will, have you tried to turn it into an? ed >> i might turn it into

years of therapy. >> listen, because of -- all i was thinking yes, that what if the director and the cinematographer said, i don't like that take. >> yeah, right. there >> that would be incredible. >> so injected, i thought. >> while, watching you all of you watch it, it was kind of, like oh! this is happening. >> one thing she could say none of the male politicians have done. she can claim that. >> yes, so, what makes an effective ad? >> clearly, a personal story. that is a very personal story. and, a compelling message. and certainly a message that connects with people, you know. you could sit there and talk about numbers and polls and staton figures and dollars and cents. but it is a personal story that really is able to resonate with the people. and at the end of the day i've been on many presidential campaigns, you could check all the boxes of all of the things

that you need to do to run to office. but, if you don't connect with the people they are not going to support you. so, your ads really need to connect on a personal level. now let's just say she really did that. but, sometimes that connection as we see is that people can want to turn away or think that it's too personal to have that birth on screen. but then decide that it's people's personal decision in that same context and politics. but, what's interesting about this is that sometimes with the connection, is they want to appeal to the visceral. they want to appeal to the stick it to the other person. that anger. that throw sentiment. >> and anger can be an effective way to reach people in an ad too. but i, think you know, the more effective ads are actually the ones that deal with some sense of authenticity. i thought that was a very authentic. at, and just to show your personal experience, and to relate to the story, it is a very political story. and, actually we may be able to take it in a very local, granular level. and talk about how it affects

you. very similarly, i think that raphael warnock make some amazing campaign at. they are humorous, they are self deprecating, but they're also focused on the issue. >> before we get to that, let me just play one from ron desantis. because i think he's doing what you are talking about, what you are all talking about, by using his wife, you, know obviously some people would say that ron desantis could used to be humanize on some level. and his wife -- >> know i was trying to say how to -- >> but's wife i think does that. >> here it is. >> if you want to know huron desantis really is, when i was diagnosed with cancer and i was facing the battle for my life he was the dad who took care of my children when i couldn't. he was there to pick me off of the ground when i literally could not stand. he was there to fight for me when i didn't have the strength to fight for myself. that is who ron desantis is.

>> so it's also highly personal. >> can i say something about that? >> i mean i feel that it's a very emotional ad. i don't to say anything to disparage that experience. but, at the same time, i find that at incredibly problematic. because what it does is that everything that she's saying counter intuitive to huron desantis is as a leader. yes you can be kind and compassionate to your wife, dear friends, to your family. but can you do it to the people of your state, the people who are vulnerable? the people who you are shipping, out who are actually going to another state. and trying them to massachusetts. what kind of compassionate person is that? so, yes i don't give a that you could just sit and help your family if you are not able to do that for the rest of the people in your community, in your state. that is your job as a leader. yes, you are good human being, perhaps with their. family but being a good leader for your state.

not just for your family. it's cynically hypocritical. >> let me just say, if you have seen anything of hurricane ian, you have seen rhonda santas, that is best appealing to the people, making sure their needs were, met making sure that they had the needs met. meeting with president biden, getting the federal assistance, making sure that they had housing, food, and clothing. their needs, he was very compassionate and very where. and, in terms of the immigrants that is something else, or he did that because he was overwhelmed. and in the -- >> for the immigrants in texas he didn't have -- >> sorry -- >> he want to texas, and took immigrants -- >> was that effective or? i >> think you hit it on the head when you are introducing it. which was that if you're reading profiles like this in the new york profile of ron desantis, he has a problem connecting on a personal level with other people. including people who's being

seen as friends. so, this was an effort to humanize. and this was something the campaign clearly saw that was a need that needed to be filled. and this is all they chose to do it. it's a very emotional ad, it's a very memorable ad. which is what you want. you want to add to be memorable, you want to add to be played on tv for free like this. and you also wanted to be shared online and on twitter or whatnot. so i think it worked in that sense. >> yes, i agree. very intuit. and we had two examples here of a very -- family experience. >> so, when we come back, we're gonna talk about kanye west. it is anti-semitic tweet. >> i heard it breaking and it just one -- >> i'm not going anywhere. i'm not going anywhere. and why his twitter accounts are now locked. and we want to know what you think about. it's so here is a tweet from jenny. and it says kanye needs to go to the holocaust museum followed by the museum of

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and his paris fashion show, wearing a t-shirt with white lives matter ridden and huge fonds on his back. and days later, he tweeted and i am quoting here, going deaf con three on jewish people. you guys have toyed with me and tried to blackball anyone who ever opposes your agenda, and quote. kanye's twitter account is not locked for the antisemitic tweet. back with us to talk about this is john moorman, alice stewart and keith blinken. so, john, kanye has spoken about having mental illness. i, mean he has talked about having bipolar disorder. and he said that in his manic mode, he becomes hyper paranoid. and he has described himself as thinking that everything is a conspiracy. are we supposed to take that into consideration when he says

repugnant things like that? >> you can't have mental illness and be antisemitic. and i think that you need to call that what it is. which is just pure antisemitism. it's antisemitism one-on-one. i was on a professor panel, because we shouldn't even call it antisemitism, because antisemitism, sometimes the sanitizes. that is classic you heating going back to conspiracy is the type of conspiracy for centuries. you, know you people have undermined me for so long. we were controlling things and pulling things, that's what it is what is motivating to me is a less interesting then acknowledging what he just did, in public for everybody to see. and i know that there's a debate of whether twitter should be a platform. i don't care what twitter does. i care that he said this. that someone who is this high profile with this many people who are looking at him felt that it was okay to say

something so blatant in front of the whole world. whether he didn't louder whether he did it on twitter is when not important to me. you hear people say things like this you wonder if it's because they are an about what happened with the holocaust, or are they just antisemitic? i agree with the person that tweeted into the show, he needs to go to the holocaust museum and needs to take a history lesson on what happened. and the atrocities that happened to the jewish people during that time period. he might also want to go to the african american history museum and learn a little bit about that. here's the thing that i find astonishing in the last week. he has not only offended jewish people, he clearly offended a lot of african americans when he went to paris fashion show with a white lives matter sweatshirt. they were very frustrated. and here's a man who is a businessman, who makes a lot of money off of his rap music, and selling clothes, and he's taking a huge financial hit by passing of every single entity he possibly can, so what's the

motive, what's the endgame other than getting people to talk about him? he's losing a lot of business, he's no longer on social media, and he certainly not really -- >> he was on after part of this. not the antisemitic tweet, but he had an audience for about an hour a tucker carlson. an extremely high rated show. i struggle on this, and i want to say why am a little bit quiet here. i struggle with acknowledging a provocateur. i do. and it is extraordinarily important to continue to address what ought to be obvious, which is, i don't buy anyone who tells me they're not educated about the holocaust. or they're not educated about bigotry. i think people make a choice to be a bigot or not, and being bipolar does not make you a bigot. but, the idea of addressing the provocateur feels, i'm always torn. do you feel that way, keith? >> i feel the same way. and i've been dreading this

conversation all night because i feel like this is -- he wants us to be talking about him. and to a certain extent, even if it's bad news, it still gets him the attention he wants. and kanye west is that provocateur, he knows what he is doing is wrong. it doesn't matter if he has mental health issues or not. he knows that antisemitism is wrong. he knows that preaching anti-blackness is wrong. he talks about white lives matter. yay souls said that slavery was a choice! kanye west was the one -- black people embraced him years ago because he talked about george bush during hurricane katrina. but i wonder if he didn't believe that. i wonder if that was just part of his stick again, part of his effort to be the provocateur. kanye west as someone who, unfortunately, alison, the republican party was to do to embrace just a week ago. they liked him a week ago until he went off the deep and again. >> they really liked him ever since he liked trump and he went to the white house to see

trump and the fascination with him and giving him a hour of television on another network, i don't understand that. but clearly, i don't feel as though someone with so much antisemitic, anti african american views, deserves the kind of attention that he is getting. clearly, he is getting it. >> we will see a lot more about who gets the attention on the twitter platform, there's a new sheriff in town. we will see about that. coming up, i want to hear from you wall, and it's time for you to send, off i know you have opinions out there. what is your take on the best response to kanye west? just direct your thoughts to listen or to laura coates and yet we will hear them just a moment. use the hashtag cnn slash tech. >> you can tell us anything. it doesn't just have to be about kanye.

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>> okay, it's time to hear your thoughts on tonight's topics live and un-scripted until -- what do we have? >> what could be possible -- 's pandora's box. i can't wait to get republicans back in office to restore our economy and safety. period. >> i like it. st.. right to the point. that's how you should tweet. >> other one was, let's see here, this is in regards to herschel walker, republicans are supporting herschel walker because he's easy to manipulate. that was alice, not the one who's at our table who said that. then you also have herschel walker who has this, gondoliers about it, and raises campaign donations. trump gets search by the fbi, gets -- millions in donations. this is the gop business model. >> stop right there, alex, this is the gop business model.

because trump show them how to do that. the more scandal, then there's more money raised. >> whenever the fbi -- every time there was a new development with mar-a-lago, my inbox would get filled with, 45, six, seven, eight, nine, ten fundraising solicitations from trump. because he portrayed himself as the victim and they were on a witch hunt, and that was propped signature we'll misconduct, they were going after him. that's the way he perceived it, he was the victim and people bought into it and gave money. >> and herschel walker is doing the same thing. >> why? >> i think we talked about this on another show that we may have been together on, alice. my question, as is donald trump unicorn? here is donald trump the only one who can get away with what he did and get elected? i don't know the answer to that. i think we will learn. can herschel walker pull off what donald trump pulled off after access hollywood, after trump university, after everything? the list goes on, and on, and on. trump didn't, but i don't.

no i don't know. >> what we saw with, trump whenever there was the access hollywood or any of these other scandals that came up, he did the same playbook. deny, deflect, and demean those that accused him of these things. herschel walker is doing the same thing. >> trump did it faster. herschel walker had a few days of in comprehensive bowl conversations where he was sort of apologizing, but we do know to whom. donald trump just by devault, by his nature, immediately deflects, denies. >> he was defiant. that's where the risking him to have more of a trumpian response. talking about herschel walker. but the idea of trying to hook god way teflon phenomenon, his perception -- democrats are elitist, part of that conversation is, people not wanting to be told how to think or feel. i think it's in reaction to the pc movement about why there is a visual hate for reactions of it, but the pc right to say, but this idea of i don't want you to tell me who is a good

candidate or not. i meant this as much as the herschel conversation as much as anyone else. >> i don't think it's only about people dictating who you you should or should like, but it's the hypocrisy of the party that calls itself the party of family values, the party of pro-life, the party of protecting the traditional values. then you have herschel walker as your candidate, and apparently, the allegations are true, antithetical to all those different things, he goes on to say, i believe in redemption. well how can you have redemption if you haven't acknowledged you've done anything wrong? >> this goes back to what mitch mcconnell talked about. the question of candidate quality in any of these races. we can go back to the primary if we could be do them. primaries, we might have different candidates at this point. but right now, for republicans, it's a binary choice between herschel walker and the -- >> he might still. when i know you're talking about that. but you might still win. >> polls right now in georgia have a tied now at 45 apiece.

herschel's campaign is back in the field this week. we will see how the numbers play out later on. but there will be full speed ahead and top name republicans are going to georgia to really show the binary choice between hershel's policies and warnock. >> we had another tweet though on the topic of canoeist. we will leave it in the conversation. it says, in the pressure we pose using hash tags and sound dog's blood would the appropriate response be to calm the west. one person said, the man needs family intervention and they should be providing it. the alt-right media should stop using him as a tool, and the rest of us should give a confused and challenged man a break. but not a break to the shameless media that exploited him. berman, do you think he deserves a break? >> i think that was forfeits, right? i think the last part right there is the wrong thing. yes, the family should have an intervention, yes, the alt-right media should stop defying him. but you have to call this out.

there's no excuse for it. if there is mental illness, i'm not a doctor, i'm not going to diagnose it, then, yes, he should get help. but that's not an excuse for saying hateful things. and when someone who has the profile of kanye west says that you need to acknowledge it, it's just not to it, because okay to say what he did. >> maybe the solution is actually to de-platform people like that. so like we saw with trump. >> he's got millions of followers. to your point, to stamp it out, you have to be [inaudible] if you're 31 million followers. >> we have two seconds. >> we talked so much big picture about what he's talking. but for him to say, when i wake, up i'm going defcon three on jewish people, the funny thing is, i can't be antisemitic because black people are also jews as well, this is not acceptable. i think on that note, we can all agree, but before we, go we want to say congratulations to keep because he's got a new book out this. week quitting when i left my

job to live a life of freedom! >> after this. one >> after waited too. and that is really relaxed. it's a great cover photo. >> that's not quite quitting. that's just quitting. >> thanks so much for being with us on our inaugural show here. great to have you guys. and thanks so much for watching. >> our coverage continues. we can replace your windshield ...and recalibrarate your safety system. >> customer: a and they recycld my old glass. >> tech: don't wait. schedule today. >> singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪ this is how tosin lost 33 lbs on noom weight. i'm tosin. noom gave her a psychological approach to weight loss. noom has taught me how you think about food has such a huge impact on your relationship with it. (chuckle) noomeight. gain knowledge. lose weight.

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