♪ just a little change ♪ ♪ small to say the least ♪ ♪ both a little scared neither one prepared ♪ ♪ beauty and the beast ♪ >> angela lansbury also starred in a number of hit broadway musicals, she earned five tony awards, beginning with "maim" in 1966. angela lansbury was 96 years old. she died just five days before her 97th birthday. the news continues. i want to hand it over to jake tapper and his debut program. welcome to "cnn tonight." i'm jake tapper. is vladimir putin a rational actor? or has vladimir putin lost his

mind? that's really the subtext of all the conversations about whether the russian president is actually willing to drive humanity to the brink of a nuclear disaster. i bet it's keeping president biden up at night. how about you? how are you sleeping since president biden used the word "armageddon"? i'll ask how close he thinks we are to the brink and what options are on the table in our exclusive interview. as biden noted n ukraine, putin's choices, his options are narrowing. >> translator: we will defend our land by all means at our disposal. we'll do everything to ensure the security of our people. >> breaking ut our putin-english, english-putin dictionary, what he means by land is ukraine. our people, he means the ukrainians who have taken up

arms to stop him. when he says about the by any means at our disposal, that's rhetoric that has gone nuclear. >> translator: is u.s. is is the only country in the world to have used nuclear weapons on two occasions, resulting in the destruction of hiroshima and nagasaki, which reminds me, they have created a precedent. >> a friendly reminder. how serious is putin about using a nuclear weapon? well, president biden sure seems to be taking it seriously. quote, putin is not joking when he talks about potential use of tactical nuclear weapons or biological or chemical weapons because his military is significantly underperforming, biden said a few days ago. quote, i don't think there's any such thing as the ability to easily use a tactical weapon and not end up with arm ageddon. if it sounds scary to us, imagine how it sounds to the

ukrainians. >> they begin to prepare society, that is very dangerous. i think it's dangerous to even speak about it. >> but putin is speaking about it, and it's even more troubling given three aspects of where putin currently finds himself. number one, his back is against a wall. look at the territory that the ukrainian military has gained. the light blue is ukrainian forces taking their own land back, pushing back on putin's forces. as putin loses territory, he's oddly gaining swagger. what are some of the worst-case scenarios here? nightmare scenario one, some experts think it could be a russian military strike on one of the largest nuclear power plants in the world in ukraine, which ukrainian officials think could result in a disaster ten times worse than chernobyl in 1986. nightmare scenario two, an attack by russia inside a nato

country. while that might sound farfetched, that is what's worrying senator marco rubio of florida, and rubio probably knows a little bit about this. he's the highest ranking republican on the senate intelligence committee. >> i think the thing i worry most about is a russian attack inside nato territory, for example, aiming at the airport in poland or some other distribution point. there certainly would be an attack on one, and so, therefore, certainly nato will have to respond to it. >> nightmare scenario three, a nuclear bomb dropped by russia onto the innocent people of ukraine, a situation that former cia director and retired four-star general petraeus says would require a u.s. response. >> just to give you a hypothetical, we would respond by leading a nato, a collective effort that would take out every conventional force we can see and identify on the battlefield in ukraine, also crimea and

every ship on the black sea. >> which sounds a lot like world war iii. this is where we are right now. the u.s. and russia on the brink of a full-on war with a blood-thirsty dictator. president biden said for the first time since the cuban missile crisis, we have a threat of a nuclear weapon if things continue down the path they're going. let's go back to that moment. let's go back to the time that another democratic president made this announcement not so dissimilar 60 years ago this very month. >> on october 22nd, 1962, president john f. kennedy broadcast a special message to the nation from his office in the white house. >> nuclear weapons are so destructive, and ballistic missiles so swift, that any substantially increased possibility of their use or any sudden change in their deployment may well be regarded

as a definite threat to peace. >> a similar concern expressed by john f. kennedy decades ago inside the same white house, another american president telling the public the nuclear threat from russia and the soviet union was very real. now, the threat to peace during the cuban missile crisis was the soviet's plan to move nuclear missiles to cuba in the caribbean. those 13 days on the brink of mutually assured destruction was the culmination of a nuclear age no one wants to go back to. fallout shelters, air raid drills, our government putting out insipid cartoons to reassure kids that ducking under their desks would save them from the nuclear holocaust ♪ we do what we were taught to do you and you and you ♪ ♪ duck and cover ♪ >> that's a great plan. it's exactly like a monkey with

a stick of dynamite. how did we find ourselves back here again 60 years later? well, you can blame mr. april and mr. july and, of course, mr. september. that's right. vladimir putin is a man who actually releases an annual calendar featuring himself as the pinup every month. he's 70. so it might be easy to take putin as a joke. and some world leaders do on occasion. a couple of them got caught on camera mocking those shirtless pics. canada's justin trudeau and the united kingdom's boris johnson suggesting they too needed to go shirtless to prove they were tougher than putin. unamused, putin responded saying, quote, i don't know if he wanted to strip down to the waist or below the waist, but it would have been a disgusting sighting either way. below the waist, okay. but that little snippet raises

an important question, and that's our second point about where putin finds himself. has the west failed to take putin seriously enough? i mean, the evidence suggests that we have and that one american president after another has tried to appease him to avoid this very moment in which we find ourselves today, passing chamber's umbrella like a relay baton. in 2000 as president bill clinton was wrapping up his time into office, putin leveled the chechen capital city of grozny. thousands of civilians were killed, and clinton's attitude was this. >> i think that the united states can do business with this man. what i have seen of him so far indicates to me that he's capable of being a very strong and effective and straightforward leader. >> since then, president after president has hoped for the best and watched the worst happen.

>> i looked the man in the eye. i found him to be very straightforward and trustworthy. we had a very good dialogue. i was able to get a sense of his soul as a man deeply committed to his country and the best interests of his country. >> bush might have gotten a sense of putin's soul. he didn't get a sense that putin was about to seize part of neighboring georgia. and obama, president obama conveyed he also wanted to work with the guy. >> i understand. >> lost in the transmission was crimea that he seized while also sending in fighters to the eastern part of ukraine, the part he just declared part of russia. this can back in 2014. of course the last president, i

mean, he even sided with putin over u.s. intelligence findings that russia has intervened in the 2016 election. >> president putin, he just said it's not russia. i will say this. i don't see any reason why it would be. >> i do. meanwhile, trump is now siding openly with putin, suggesting that nato and the united states all but forced putin to attack ukraine and start killing civilians. >> they actually taunted him, if you really look at it. our country and so-called leadership taunted putin, and i would listen. i'd say, you know, they're almost forcing him to go in with what they're saying, the rhetoric was so dumb. >> trump is even lauding putin's goal of reconquering the former soviet union. >> they wanted to rebuild the soviet union. they had a country. you could see it was a country where there's a lot of love.

>> a lot of love. i guess if your love long is gulags. putin's always been a dictator whose critics find themselves jail or curiously suddenly inclined to jump out the nearest window. putin's ordered assassinations not only in russia but western countries, and he holds some truly deranged views was the west. of us west. in "days of fire" putin and bush meet in 2002 to discuss, quote, putin asserted that the americans deliberately sent bad poultry to russia. i know you have separate plants for chickens in america and chickens for russia, putin told bush. bush was astonished. vladimir, you're wrong. putin refused to believe him. my people have told me this is true. his people told him that nonsense about the u.s. having special chicken plants so we can send russia defective drum

sticks. what do you think they're telling him about how the war in ukraine is going today? that brings me to my third and final point about where putin finds himself today. what would happen if you took a brutal mega loma nigh cal dictator and injected an extra dose of crazy? i ask is because a few weeks ago french president emmanuel macron, one of the few world leaders who has been directly talking to putin, he said he doesn't think putin is acting rationally. >> now it's clear for everybody that the leader who decided to go to war, who decided to escalate is president putin. and i have no rational explanation. i would say this is a post-covid-19 consequence, isolation. >> because he's been so isolated? >> i think so. >> others who have spent time with putin in the past are sounding the alarm of the putin of the present, such as former

secretary of condoleezza rice. >> he was always calculating and cold, but this is different. he seems erratic. >> former director of national intelligence james clapper. >> i personally think he's unhinged. i really worry about his acute a ty and balance right now. >> former defense secretary bob gates. >> he's gone off the rails. this behavior is different and it's very worrisome. >> so a brutal dictator, arguably too appeased for too long losing the war and his touch with reality. and so what does president biden do? is there a red line that putin cannot cross? and what happens if he does cross it? >> how realistic is it do you think that putin would use a tactical nuclear weapon? >> my exclusive interview with president joe biden is next.

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. the russian military currently raining fear and devastation not on soldiers in a distant battlefield, but in neighborhoods and cities across ukraine. the ferocity of russia's attacks on civilian targets underscores a stark reality, it could get worse, much worse. president biden met virtually with 2k3g-7 leaders and ukraini president zelenskyy. we're told the 90-minute meeting was focused on continued

international support amidst serious fears that russia could deploy a tactical weapon. that's where i begin by interview with the president of the united states. thank you for doing this. this is the map room. during world war ii, it was basically the situation room for fdr. he would look at sensitive information. now we're in a period where there's another high-stakes war in europe. you recently said that this is the first time since the cuban missile crisis that there's a legitimate possibility of someone using a nuclear weapon, which could lead to armageddon, that's the word you used. how realistic is it do you think that putin would use a tactical nuclear weapon? >> i don't think he will, but i think it's irresponsible for him to talk about. the idea that a world leader of one of the largest nuclear powers in the world says he may use a tactical nuclear weapon in ukraine, the whole point i was making was it could lead to just a horrible outcome, not because

anybody intends to turn it into a world war, but once you use a nuclear weapon, the mistakes that can be made, the miscalculations, who knows what would happen. >> what is the red line for the united states and nato, and have you directed the pentagon and other agencies to game out what a response would be if he did use a tactical nuclear weapon or if he bombed the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant in ukraine or anything along those lines? >> there's been discussions, but i'm not going to get into that. it would be irresponsible of me. >> have you asked the pentagon to game it out, though, just in case? >> the pentagon didn't have to be asked. >> french president macron told me that he doesn't think that putin is acting rationally, and he said that he thinks a lot of it is because how isolated putin was for two years during the pandemic. others who have dealt with him, condi rice and james clapper

have used erratic to describe putin's behavior today. do you think putin is a rational actor? >> i think he is a rational actor who's miscalculated significantly. i think -- you may recall i pounded out they were going to invade, all those 100,000 or more troops, no one believed he was going to invade ukraine. you listen to what he says, if you listen to the speech he made after that decision, he talked about the whole idea of he was -- needed to be the leader of russia that united all of the russian speaking -- i just think it's irrational. >> if he's not rational -- >> i didn't say he's not rational. i think his objectives. i think he thought he was going to be welcomed with open arms, that this is the home of mother russia in kyiv and he was going

to be welcomed. i think he totally miscalculated it. >> you talked about this a few days ago, the search for an off-ramp for him because his back is against the wall, there are questions about how rational he is. he already was a brutal dictator. what is the off-ramp? is there any acceptable way that he can leave in his mind without seizing territory in a way that would not be acceptable to ukraine? >> i don't know what's in his mind, but clearly he could leave. he could just flat leave and still probably hold his position together in russia. the idea that he's been able to convince a significant amount of the russian people that this is something that he thought made sense but now he's accomplished what he wanted to do and it's time to bring russians home. >> would you be willing to meet

with him at the g20? >> look, i have no intention of meeting with him, but, for example, if he came to me at the g20 and said i want to talk about the release of griner, i'd meet with him. it would depend. but i can't imagine -- look, we've taken a position. i just did a g-7 meeting this morning. the idea nothing about ukraine without ukraine, so i'm not about to -- nor is anyone else -- prepared to negotiate with him about keeping any part of ukraine, et cetera. so it would depend on specifically what he wanted to talk about. look, he's acted brutally. i think he's committed war crimes. so i don't see any rationale to meet with him now. >> when people hear the word "armageddon" they get scared when used by a u.s. president. they get scared. do you think in any way discussing this type of thing publicly, openly, putin's

possible use of nuclear weapons might have the opposite effect of what you want? it might make some of our wobblier european allies be even more scared of confronting putin. >> i don't think so at all. look, there was a -- when i'm talking about putin, he, in fact, cannot continue with impunity to talk about the use of a tactical nuclear weapon as if that's a rational thing to do. the mistakes get made. the miscalculation could occur. no one could be sure what would happen and it could end in armageddon. >> and you still have afraid of that, though, that it could? >> no. i don't think any rational person is saying the initial use of a nuclear weapon, killing thousands of people does not have the prospect of leading to something that could be way out of control. >> let's turn to saudi arabia. some of your democratic allies on capitol hill are afraid that the u.s. got played when you

went to saudi arabia and fist bumped with the crown prince because now obviously a few months later, saudi-backed opec is slashing production in partnership with russia. the chairman of the senate foreign relations committee called for a freeze, including most arms sales. senator durbin, the number one democrat in the senate, says the saudis sided with russia against the united states. do you think it's time for the u.s. to rethink its relationship with saudi arabia? >> yes. and, by the way, let's get straight why i went. i didn't go about oil. i went about making sure that we made sure we weren't going to walk away from with middle east and what was going on. by the way, today, i just got off the telephone with the president of -- i got off the phone with the prime minister of israel and the president of lebanon. they've worked out a deal. they declared war with one another for a long time. they've worked out a

relationship in the eastern mediterranean for oil and they're going to make an agreement that is historic. we also got over flights for planes over saudi arabia. we got movement in terms of how we would deal in the middle east with aggression from iran. but it wasn't -- there were eight other parties there. it wasn't about -- it wasn't about oil. >> okay. but you would -- >> but we should -- we should, and i am in the process when the house and senate gets back -- they're going to have to -- there's going to be some consequences for what they've done with russia. >> what kind of consequences? menendez says suspend all arms sales. is that something you would consider? >> i'm not going to get into what i considered and have in mind, but there will be consequences. >> the midterm elections are four weeks from today. the economy remains top of mind for voters. jpmorgan said the u.s. is likely to enter a recession in the next

nine months. bank of america says the u.s. could start losing 175,000 jobs a month. gas prices are on the rise again. should the american people prepare for a recession? >> no. look, they have been saying this now every six months they say this. every six months they look down the next six months and say what's going to happen. it hadn't happened yet. there is no -- there's no guarantee that they're -- i don't think there will be a recession. if it is, it will be a slight recession. that is, we'll move down slightly. look, think about what's happened. we have done more -- we're in a better position than any other major country in the world economically and politically. we still have real problems, but look what we got done. we passed so much legislation that significantly makes a point about, you know, for example, the american rescue plan, the legislation that deals with

inflation -- the inflation act. we moved along -- i mean, there's so much that's been accomplished that the idea that there's something -- there's a recession, they've been predicting this on and off for the last -- >> but you said a slight recession is possible. >> it is possible. it's possible. i don't anticipate it. but i do think -- look, we talk about the impact on families. the families are -- they have reason to be concerned about energy prices. they have reason to be concerned about a whole range of issues. but look what we've done. we've been able to -- the inflation reduction act. i know i'm always quoting my dad, but my dad used to say, is there any breathing room for a middle class family? and the breathing room is after all the bills are paid at the end of the month if they have anything left. there's more than one way to bring down the cost, monthly cost for people who, in fact, are struggling to make sure ends

meet and they have enough money. that's what we've done with inflation reduction act. look, we reduced drug prices. we've allowed for the first time we've been trying for years to get medicare to be able to negotiate drug prices. we pay the highest drug prices of any nation in the world, any major nation. we're going to be in a situation where no senior is going to have to pay more than $2,000 a year for the drugs no matter how much they cost. we've reduced -- we're going to make sure no one has to pay more than $35 a month for insulin, et cetera. when i ran, i said we're going to deal with energy. >> right. >> and the energy problem, we're going to deal with the whole notion of global warming. we passed $368 billion worth of help, which is going to bring trillions -- billion dollars off the sideline investment. look at the investment that's

going on in america right now. >> yeah. so you think democrats have something to run on? >> i think we do, i know we do. here's the contrast. we know -- what's the republican platform? what are they refund on? what are they for? well, they want to put social security on the chopping block every five years and the other leader comes along and says every year it should be up for grabs, medicare, medicaid. i mean, these aren't negotiable items in terms of whether they're going to continue them or not. and the first thing they said they're going to be is get rid of the inflation reduction act. they're going to raise drug prices, raise medical costs again? we're no longer going to be able to have the ability to have tax credits for weatherizing your home to save money. i mean, i don't know what they're for. >> our reporting cnn reporting and "the washington post" reporting suggests that the prosecutors think they have enough to charming your son, hunter, for tax crimes and a false statement about a gun purchase.

personally and politically, how do you react to that? >> first of all, i'm proud of my son. this is a kid who got -- not a kid, he's a grown man. he got hooked on, like many families have had happened, hooked on drugs. he's overcome that and established a new life. he has -- i'm confident that he is -- what he says and does are consistent with what happens. for example, he wrote a book about his problems and was straightforward about it. i'm proud of him. he came along and said, by the way, this thing about a gun, i didn't know anything about it, but turns out when he made application to purchase a gun, what happened was -- i guess -- i don't guess, you could say ask the question are you on drugs or use drugs, he said no. and he wrote about saying no. >> right. >> in his book. so i have confidence in my son. i love him and he's on the

straight and narrow and has been for a couple years now and i'm just so proud of him. >> you're about to turn 80 next month. happy birthday ahead of time. whenever anyone raises concerns about your age, you're the oldest president in the history of the united states, you always say watch me. voters have been watching you. democratic voters approve of the job you're doing. democratic voters overwhelmingly like you. but one poll shows that almost two-thirds of democratic voters want a new nominee in 2024, and the top reason they gave was your age. so what's your message to democrats who like you, who like what you've done, but are concerned about your age and the demands of the job? >> they're concerned whether or not i can get anything done. name me a president in recent history that's gotten as much done as i have in the first two years. not a joke. the vast majority of the american people do like what i got done. and so it's a matter of can you do the job, and i believe i can

do the job. i've been able to do the job. i got more done. i got all these legislation passed. and i ran on that. i said this is what i'm going to do and i'm still getting it done. you know, dealing with, you know, making sure the veterans get compensated for the burn pits, making sure we're in a situation where we finally have action on guns. by the way, i'm going to get an assault weapons ban. before this is over, i'm going to get that again, not a joke. watch. so i just think there's, you know, it's a matter of -- has anybody done more in the first two years of their administration for a guy -- they've been saying this about my age since i began to run. so, you know, you can come work out with me in the morning. >> anytime, anytime. the big question, of course, is when you're going to make an official announcement for 2024 re-election. do you think you'll make a decision before the end of the

year? >> well, look, i'm not going to make this about my decision. i'm going to make this about this off-year election. after that's done in november, then i'll be in the process of deciding. >> is one of the calculations that you think you're the only one who can beat donald trump? >> i believe i can beat donald trump again. >> all right, mr. president. thank you so much for your time today. really appreciate it. >> thank you. >> i know you're rooting for the phillies. >> that's a fact. if i weren't, i'd be sleeping alone. >> thank you, sir. >> thank you. >> we have another special one-on-one for you. my new interview with dwayne "the rock" johnson ahead. did the superstar enjoy playing a superhero in his big return to the big screen? what about his possible presidential ambitions? we sat down to chat. it's good to to see you. is it okay if i call you dwayne? i'm told you prefer dwayne or dj. >> whatever comes out. i told your producer "daddy" works too. >> that would be very weird. that would be very strange.

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to life on the big screen. the movie is from warner bros., which is owned by cnn's parent company, and the film touches on the origin story of the d.c. comics character and his transformation from a slave in the fictitious kingdom of candak into an all-powerful meta human who has fewer compunctions about killing people than, say, wonder woman. here's a sneak peek. >> i told you, stop killing people. >> they look alive to me. >> because i saved them. >> that's why i waited until you were there. i got the information i needed. no one died. i did it your way. >> he does have a point. >> i know he got lost in all the confusion, but we have issues to settle here. there are only heroes and there are villains. >> you think yourself a hero? but you would let these criminals go free? >> heroes don't kill people.

>> well, i do. >> joining us now, dwayne "the rock" johnson. dwayne, thank you so much for joining us. really exciting to have you. i'm a big fan of yours. i have to say, this cannot be the first time that you have been asked to join a superhero universe. what appealed to be about the black adam character? his story is different from the traditional story i've seen. >> sure. i've been lucky enough to play a few superheros in the past. those projects i passed on, and they went on to other actors who played them, i think, brilliantly. what was also -- what was also very intriguing to me about "black adam" was that there was a challenge in that a lot of the world didn't know who black adam was. black adam is not a sequel. it wasn't an already existing ip that people were familiar with. when you look at the d.c. bible,

the pantheon of these d.c. superheros, black adam was sitting right there. and i always felt years ago -- jake, this has been a ten-year passion project i've been pushing and fighting for this thing. when you look at black adam as a character, all these characteristics, back story, starts off as a slave. his family is enslaved 50,,000 years ago. he is born from rage and he's blessed with these powers, these super powers that rival superman. that in and of itself -- i mean, you know, i raised my hand and said i'm in. so it was creating an opportunity to deliver a character that had never been seen before, pretty cool character that could be interpreted as a superhero or a super villain, or even an anti-hero or protector. and also continue to build out the d.c. universe by introducing

the justice society of america. i know you know this because we were talking about our comics and superhero movies, but a lot of the world, they don't know that the jsa we introduce in our movie predated the justice league. so the jsa, they were the actual first superhero group ever. >> there's a very interesting theme in this film about how the mor traditional american, quote, unquote, superheros, the justice society, have not helped people in other countries, other nationalities, other races such as this fictitious country of kandak, and there's this theme of how westerners have no right to impose their views or decisions on kanda. there is an anti-imperialism, anti-colonialism theme that i've ever seen before in a superhero movie. >> thank you for pointing that out. thematically i feel like we tried to add as many layers as possible without the film being convoluted. we wanted to make sure that we

were taking care of all of our audiences, the action audience, the superhero genre audience, but also if you were to go a little bit deeper, a little bit more philosophically deeper and challenge, that's there for you too within "black adam." del i'd like to think the movie we made with "black adam," regardless of race, culture you're from around the world, there's relatable qualities to the character of black adam, and the philosophies that he and many on that side of the world have. there's a great moment in our movie which i really like because i like to start a little bit of trouble. but i'm sure you found this just a great moment, is when the justice society finally comes to this place called kandak. it's posed to them, well, superman doesn't come to kandak

and that man ignored it. where have you been all this time and all of a sudden you show up. we're good. we have one protector and one champion, and his name is black adam. it's a cool scene. i i've given the movie away, but it's all right. >> i don't think so. superman is rescuing cats from trees in metropolis, but meanwhile there's an entire nation being enslaved. i never thought about it before. it's really interesting. and also, not to give anything away, but there are some scenes where cgi was used to make you look less muscular, which i think also is kind of new for the d.c. universe. >> well, they had to actually use all the cgi talents to make my head not look as large on screen. i got a pretty big melon, especially on screen. your audience will appreciate this story. in superhero movies, as we know, the costumes are padded with

muscle padding. so when our costumers came to our house and gave me the very first iteration of the black adam costume with muscle padding. so you can imagine what my body with muscle padding looked like, i mean, it was the most ridiculous thing, like i belonged on a "saturday night live" skit. but finally i had them remove the muscle padding and i put in some work. so the final iteration of the costume is what you see in the movie. no muscle padding, just a lot of hard work and some tequila. >> there were a number of characters from the larger d.c. universe that were in this film. the amelia hard-core character with john cena. there's amanda waller from the "suicide squad" films. he fits black adam into the d.c.

universe. should we department more black adam movies and cameos? >> i think so, jake. that's the intention and the whole goal here and the strategy of our seven bucks productions with warner bros. and d.c. as well. to me, all the characters of the d.c. universe should cross paths. i try my best to think ten steps ahead on what fans might like, and so we're in the process now of creatively figuring out what the next best step is, should we be lucky thouenough to make a sl and inviting other d.c. characters in our movie. but also, as you know and a lot of people out there know, when you look at the d.c. bible, man, there are so many cool characters that have yet to be introduced to the world. so i look forward to that too. >> so what about all the talk

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over the past few years, dwayne johnson fans have called on the professional wet wrestler turned movie star to run for

president of the united states. so, what does he have to say about that? here's the rest my conversation with the rock. >> i have to talk about the love you've been getting on your black adam tour. we're going to share some video that you shared on instagram, of a man crying after you signed as w.. at one point during the tour, someone handed you their baby. you are very popular. last year, there were a lot of articles about the baby running for president. but i understand you aren't ruling that out. >> i just want to acknowledge the tour. we kicked off the tour in mexico. and that trip was incredible. there is so much love, very powerful. and quite emotional. you saw the gentlemen crying. there were a lot of tears. someone handed me an infant, which i thought was beautiful moment, which you've got to be very careful. so, i'm glad that went over okay. >> [laughs] >> but in terms of the presidency you, i, i gotta tell you this jake. it all is a, i think,

convergence of things that are surreal and inspiring. and what i mean by that is as we get into the midterms, and even a couple years ago, this idea and the question continues to pop up on whether or not i would run for president, what i seriously consider it? and i have seriously considered it, you have to. when you start looking at some of these polls, and these numbers creep up into the 46%, 50% of the country would vote for me should i run. and i have been really moved by that. truly, it is happening down. going into the midterms, i have heard now from both sides of the aisle the most influential people in politics asking if i would run, hoping that i would run. and again, it's so moving, man, and surreal. i do not know anything about politics. i will say that i will

absolutely -- i'm a patriot, and i love our country. and i love everybody in it, regardless of color or culture. do not care what your bank account says, what kind of car you drive. but the most important job that i have is daddy. and my two -- , why have to take that off the table of running for president. one is six, and one is. four and i've worked really hard over the years, the past decade, to be honest with you, to try and create a life for my family and my little girls where we have stability. and those drop off in the morning that i love to do at school, and those pickups, and nighttime routines, it just being able to create that stability for them. i really never had that going up as a kid. and i do know what it is like. i have said this before. i know what it is like.

and when i was a professional wrestler, i was wrestling on average 250 days out of the year, a different city every night. it is what i did. i loved what i did. but it's what i did to provide for my family. so, jake, i also know what it is like to not be there at a critical time in my little girl's life. and that was my first daughter. so i know the pains of that, working hard because you want to protect your family. but still not being able to be there. so, the reason why i bring that up is because i've experienced that before in the past. i do not want to experience that now when my daughters are this little. i want them to have their daddy in their lives. so, it's a very long answer to say i am just really grounded and humbled by the interest on both sides. but the number one job and my number one title that i love right now is daddy.

>> i totally respected. it's beautiful. but kids do age. that is not closing the door for, you know, in 2040. they'll be -- even before then, 2036, they will be in college. what about man? you are not closing the door forever, is what i'm asking. you >> know, not at all, i would not do that. like, thank you for asking that, for clarifying that. right now, my daughters, it's important that i am a home. and that stability is important, for me to be there. and that is the most important thing to me. and by the way, that is a tough thing, i think, to reconcile. and i am blown away by that. the fact that i'm even having this conversation with you, the fact that i have been approached by the most influential in the world of politics, which i think you know very well probably better than i do. it was really moving.

but right now, the most important job that i have is to be their father, and to be there. >> we'll, god bless. the movie is very enjoyable, and pretty unique for a superhero movie. it's dwayne the rock johnson. the film is black adam. thanks so much, it's great to have you on. >> thank you, man, i really appreciate it. we'll do it again down the road. >> all right, sounds good. and dwayne the rock johnson's new film black adam premiers in theaters a week from friday. that's on friday october 21st. we'll be right back. with the latest technology. we can replace your windshield ...and recalibrate your safety syststem. >> customer: and they recycled my old glass. >> t tech: don't wait. schedule today. >> singers: ♪ safelitite repai, safelite replace. ♪ (driver 1) it's all you. (driver 2) no, i insist. (driver 1) it's your turn. (burke) get farmers and you could save money with the safe driver discount just by having a clean driving record f three years. get a whole lot of something with farrs policy perks. (driver 3) come on! ♪ we are farmers. bum-pa-dum, bum-bum-bum-bum ♪

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