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and surreal. i don't know anything about politics. but the most important job that i have is daddy. and my two why's i have to take that off the table of running for president. one is 6 and the other the 4. >> i totally respect that it's beautiful. but kids do age. that's not closing the door for 2040. even before them, 2036, they'll be in college. what about then? you're not closing the door forever is what i'm asking? >> no, not at all. i wouldn't do that. like thank you for asking that, for clarifying that. no, right now for my daughters, it's important that i'm hope, and that stability is important for me to be there. and that's the most important thing to me. >> well, he is running. that's what i heard. >> oh, sorry. is our show going on still? i was mesmerized.
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sorry, i'm going blink a little bit. >> it was a moment. let's bring in our next guest, john berman, stuart stevens and nara haq. of course i'm joking a little bit about the idea. first of all, if he is sitting across from you, he had a je ne sais quoi. >> is that french for neck? i'm talking about jake. >> the rock was huge there. i was thinking about it. >> was it intimidating for you? >> it was exciting more than intimidating. >> because i get the excitement part of it. >> i think this whole segment went left. >> right, depending where he runs. >> he would be the first professional wrestler. >> no. >> as a candidate. jesse ventura. wwe, and ran for office. he won't be the first action hero in office, arnold schwarzenegger did that. see it's sort of like there is a well trodden path down this road if he wants to go that way.
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so it's not a can. i think when celebrity candidates can, it's should. >> i knew you were going say that. we have a graphic of, you know, our various dalliances with celebrities who have successfully made the transition into politics. and what you'll see is that they're all -- well, this is them dressed as politicians. what i wanted to see was them in their characters, because, you know, many of these guys are these kind of super hero types in their case, you know. so like schwarzenegger or the rock, ronald reagan, a cowboy, you know. they play these kind of big masculine american hero, stewart. and i have to admit i'm susceptible to this. i understand why people like this. you think in their head well, they're big and strong and successful. why couldn't they be president? somebody goes oh, they know
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nothing about the legislative process. who cares if they need to know about three branches of government? i'm very susceptible to that. but i think a lot of americans are. >> people like people. but we should remember ronald reagan did bedtime for bonzo. >> it's not all cowboys. >> super macho characters. but look, a lot more people read "people" magazine than they do foreign affairs. and i think that people are drawn to them. they have a certain charisma. and i think they can be great candidates. they can be great in office. look at zelenskyy. and reagan had great moments as president. >> and would the rock make a great president? >> i have no idea. >> neither will many americans. but they would vote for him, right? >> the fundamental question is why would he run for president? i think i did so many races for so long. i think the essence is what is the logic behind this campaign, why are you running? and with donald trump it was so transparent he was running because he wanted to be president. >> for his ego. >> his ego. he would have been a sttrotskyi
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if that would have helped him. we'll give you everything if you take us to power. cut that deal. >> he also had the appeal of being rude and being anti-politically correct behavior and sticking it to people, right? the idea that he was going after the system and doing things his own way. so there was an appeal that it was not about himself. >> just on the celebrity front think he also had an appeal of being a multimillionaire. >> yes. >> and being successful and being a tv star on a big show that that's why. >> also name recognition. it is the number one thing that local and national candidates have to fight for is just people even knowing they're running for office. so if you run and people know you're there, it makes it so much easier to get to the next level, right? getting the fundraising, getting the -- talking about policy. you're not talking about policy. but it's not enough on its own to actually get elected. george clooney had talked about running as senator in kentucky.
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his dad, matthew mcconaughey. the celebrity alone is not enough. you need the retail piece of it. you need people to feel drawn to you and connected to you. and then people as voters need to feel like they can trust you in a crisis and not just about your own self. >> partly what we're thinking of if you take a step back is the idea what we expect from our politicians more broadly. i have a feeling if you think about it recently, kevin mccarthy's discussion about the commitment to america. contrast that to newt gingrich's 1994 contract with america. he was pointed outside, mccarthy of having not a lot of substance, not a lot of meat on the bone. are we requiring more from a celebrity to have a full platform before we take them seriously? that's not required of many people who are in office right now. >> well, no, it's not. and i think that's partially thanks to our two friends over here who sometimes run candidates as outsiders and praise the idea of someone without experience or washington experience or governor
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experience running for the job or going for the job. sometimes celebrity candidates have that by definition. oh, i've never done this before so, that's a good thing. somehow our society doesn't value experience in the people who run our country as much as we do experience in people who run companies or teach our kids. >> and star in movies. it's sexier, john. it's sexier. don't you think the rock would make a great president? >> i think he would make a very big president. i do. he would be huge. no, look, i would like to hear what he would run on or what he would do. i don't want to get too serious. >> john, honestly, if tom brady ran for president, i know you would vote for him. i know that. >> yeah. >> if tom brady ran for 20 years, he won't be doing that any time soon. >> he could run for president easier than he could run for 20 yards. he is old and slow. >> i was a patriots fan. the point, think about this. we're talking about the requirements of the person who was supposed to be by our founding fathers.
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it's never supposed to come down to one person. in many respects, the president was supposed to be in many ways a bit of a figurehead, and the whole three branches of government system. why couldn't somebody who doesn't have experience be in that world? >> particularly when you end up with a pandemic, right? why have somebody who understands how to actually move ppe from one division to another? why would that be necessary in our can country? >> but it is a weird fact of politics that usually the most inexperienced candidate runs in a presidential race circumstances that right? >> yeah. >> hmm. they're not robotic in some respects. >> it has something to do with i think an american sense that you will bet on the hope, that you will bet that this person could be. where as if you have a loft experience, you're more tarnished. >> but you have a moment of crisis. >> you have a lot of deals that were awkward. look, i don't think that's a good thing, but it's an interesting thing. >> yeah, it is interesting. obviously joe biden, you know,
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defies that. but donald trump certainly. >> clinton, bush, reagan, carter. >> but clinton and bush ran deeply on their -- what they did for their states, right? they were still an expertise and an experience there. >> the executive branch. >> and in the crisis of 9/11 and the iraq war, bush was reelected. so in the moment of crisis, people want stability. and what represents stability? experience. well can trust you. you're a known quantity. which celebrities can also bring that known quality. >> oprah. >> you think you know them. they're untested. >> you see them in a scripted universe. it would be interesting to see how the rock would be in the unscripted universe that is politics. >> that's right. and allison would like to interview him first. >> yes. >> call us, rock, if that is your real name. everyone, stick around, please. >> it's not. >> you may think you've heard it all from herschel walker, but you have not heard yet what he has to say about cows. and it's a lot.
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as we just told you, mitch mcconnell does not want to respond to donald trump's insults about his wife. so we ask you what someone should do in that situation. >> here is a takeaway from twitter. one person saying "this man would do anything for power. look at his track record. he supported trump and now he is paying for it. i would have my wife's back, but trump insulting people's wives seem to be okay in the gop.
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ask ted cruz." i mean, it's a fair point. we've seen this before. it's not a novel thing. >> but ted cruz did respond. ted cruz did respond. >> initially. >> basically to the effect that it was low class, or that people shouldn't. >> don't you dare say anything. he got really angry and shouted on it. >> via twitter. >> that anger -- the point is the anger didn't last. that's the whole attitude about the notion of it. the idea that you're going to have a steadfast response when you're running, and then i guess all's fair in love and politics. it's kind of the no hard feelings philosophy on capitol hill that to the average person is stupid. i mean, i don't know how many people get over the things that they do on capitol hill. i live in the real world. but capitol hill is very different. >> indeed. anything you would like to tell laura and me, please do so. tweet us at alisyn camerota. now on to herschel walker. he just gave an interview to abc
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news that he talks about the claims he paid for an ex-girlfriend's abortion. he also talked a lot today at a campaign rally about pregnant cows. back with us now, bovine expert john german, stuart stevens and nayyera haq. okay. first of all, i guess i'll start you. we'll never really know what happened with herschel walker and his ex-girlfriend. we can parse it. she says there are bits of evidence. he is denying it. it's a personal matter. we will never really know. we also are not sure we'll know entirely what he meant by this story. so let me play for you all his story that he really wanted to tell about pregnant cows. >> i've been telling this little story about this bull out in the field with six cows. and three of 'em are pregnant. so you know you got something going on. but all he cared about is kept his nose against the fence looking at three other cows that
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blowing to him. now all he had to do is eat grass, but no, no, no, he thought something was better somewhere else. so he decided i want to get over there. so one day he measured that fence up, and he say i think i can jump this. so that day came where he got back. and he got back, and as he took off running, he dove over that fence and his belly got cut up on the bottom. but as he made it over on the other side, he shook it off and got so excited about it. and he ran to the top of that hill. but when he got up there, he realized they were bulls too. so what i'm telling you, don't think something is better somewhere else. this is the greatest country in the world today. >> well, he's got my vote. >> no. just first of all, second and third of all, are we talking -- who is the heifer in this story number one about the three cows? number two, i think the phrase is "the grass is greener on the
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other side." is the man who has been talked about having multiple children outside of the marriage, the three cows. >> i was worried where he was going with that. >> so was -- tom -- you just saw the "snl" skit in its pure form. >> general, i'll start with you. what was senator tom cotton's thought bubble during that story? >> he was thinking save me. he was looking around at rick scott, how is this going to end? he was dying to know what was going to happen to this bull. the grass is always greener. like the cows have whatever on the other side of the fence? i'm so confused. >> i'm getting dumber by the minute thinking about trying to translate that. >> is it really that hard as a person running for elected office to not say the words pregnant, baby mama, absentee fatherhood? why? why does he continue to volunteer these segues that automatically go to his personal life when we've got things like the economy to talk about. you can go toe to toe on other policy issues. he is drawing this attention to
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himself. and in some psychological moment that i really don't understand for any of us who have ever worked on campaigns. i think that's what the two folks there to support him are just get back on track. >> this should be put in like some sort of time capsule of a perfect moment that says what has happened to the republican party. you have rick scott up there who plead the fifth like a zillion times in the largest medicare scandal ever. you have tom cotton, who actually could be a serious human being. he went to harvard. he served in the army, but he is there. but they cut this deal that they would do anything for power. and once you do that, once you say that, well, everything that we believed we don't care about. once you go with donald trump, once donald trump is president, why not herschel walker? so this is mitch mcconnell's doing. he is the one that picked these candidates really. he could have -- trump said we'll take these. mcconnell could have stopped it or tried to stop it. he just went along. and that is what happens. why is he running? he is running because he'll give
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them power. >> hold on. let me say, though, i don't want to leave it. this story is obviously very colorful. and it's there is room to make fun. but he also made had interview tonight. i want you to respond at the other end of it. the he was talking what he was joking about in part. he was questioned about all the discussions and all t women that he has come out to and talked about the notion of whether he was an absentee father, et cetera. here it is. >> i know initially last week, you were saying you weren't even sure who the woman was. >> which is true. >> but at this point you now know who it is. >> yes, yes. >> did you ever have a conversation with this woman at any time about an abortion? >> no. >> did you ever to your knowledge give money to pay for the cost of an abortion? >> no. >> is she lying? >> yes, she is lying. yeah, she is lying. yes, she is lying. >> and just to be absolutely clear, i know in the past you have said sometimes there are things you don't remember. in this situation -- >> that was before -- that was like what, 20 years ago?
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yes. >> so in this current situation, are you saying a flat-out denial to any knowledge of an abortion? >> flat-out denial. flat-out denial, lie. lie, lie, lie. and you know what's sad about it, he had, what was it, a receipt and had a check and all that. he hasn't shown anything. he hasn't shown me saying nothing about an abortion. that's what's terrible. >> he has dug this hole for himself. he is the one who made the idea of absentee fatherhood a central tenet of why he is running for office. his own son has come out saying that this is true, this is part of hi life story, and he is being run by the establishment republicans with the support of white evangelicals in the state against a reverend already a senator, another black man who
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absolutely embodies the family values that we've talked about on the republican party of yours. so it is a very cynical play of putting up two black men to run for senate and suggesting that because one is supporting a specific set of policies, he is of equal -- morally equivalent to the other one. >> look, you set at the beginning we'll never know the truth here. he is taking a political risk. he's got this problem of being authentic on the abortion issue. whether or not he is a hyp hypocrite. and now he is leaning into the issue and laying down marker four weeks before the election, saying this woman is lying. and that's a long time for more articles to come out. that's a long time for more people to come out. >> isn't the real story here, this has nothing about whether herschel walker is qualified to be in the senate. the guy is a ridiculous figure. who in the united states senate is going to walk over, i really
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want to hear what herschel walker has. this is a seat that sam nunn had. they're interviewing him in a weight room. he is lying. there are seven people in america who believe he is not lying. >> absolutely. >> the point, right, there is a balance of power. the only reason the democrats have a majority is because they've got a tie-breaking vote with the vice president. so is it a matter of look, i don't care who is there. if you're a republican wanting to reclaim the majority, good enough? >> i don't know. i think that these things, they taint a party. if a party absolutely stands for nothing, so down that you'll go with donald trump, you'll go with herschel walker, it really just sort of -- >> are the same so to you, trump, herschel walker? you've made that point twice. do you equate them as similar figures? >> yeah, of course. neither one of them -- they're both vanity candidates. they're both rung because they
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want to be something, not because they want to go there and do something. they're both people who can't really put together coherent sentences. they're both people who are never really going to know anything about issues, and it's all about them. it's me, herschel walker. it's me, donald trump. it's not about you. it's not about the voters. it's not about serving. it's about something i can be. i'm star. both of them are stars. and this is where you end up. >> you know, the interesting thing is for all you're saying, the race in georgia is much closer than what that alludes to. we're talking more in a moment. the next question should children, and that came out today -- i don't know if you saw this, and adds a mom, interesting to think about what this means. >> yes. >> the question now should children as young as 8 years old be screened for anxiety? and that's what influential medical task force is now recommending, and i got questions about what that means, having an 8-year-old daughter. i'm wondering what the answers will be. we're going to talk about it next. >> yes. and if they are anxious, then what?
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there are growing concerns about a mental health crisis in america after, well, more than two years of the pandemic. you know, now for the first time, the influential u.s. preventative services task force is recommending screening for anxiety in kids ages 8 and older. recommendation applying to really all children, not just those with a diagnosed mental health condition or who are showing symptoms, but all children. the question is, is this a step in the right direction? let's talk about it now with dr.
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jeff guardier, an associate professor at the truro college of arthro pathic medicine. i have an 8-year-old, 9-year-old, we're all parents here. i wonder immediately how this works. is it every well check, every physical, you test the child for anxiety? what does that even look like? >> this task force, they made recommendations. and it's not just from the ages of 8 to 18, but they talked about the importance of psychotherapy. they talked about the importance of making sure that you have the right testing, even with the testing that you ask the proper questions. >> what are the right questions if an 8-year-old is anxious? and why nor 8-year-olds? why are 8-year-olds anxious in this country? >> what we do know is 7.8% of children between 7 and 18 years have some sort of anxiety disorder.
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so this is real that may express itself through things such as generalized anxiety disorder, agoraphobia, panic disorder, phobias. these are very real things. the kinds of questions that you ask, are you nervous more days than none? do you feel that when you're around other people that you may be fearful more days than none. and part of the screening is asking the question in a way that the children do understand. so this isn't just about the checkup from the neck up, one type of screening. they're looking at different sorts of tests, but as well, the right questions to ask when they're getting their well visits, seeing the pediatrician, working with social workers and nurses and schools. so this is up to us once they make the recommendation. >> doctor, one of the things i think one of the lasting consequences of not having had discussions about mental health in this country for so long and the aversion to talking about it
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is there are parents out there who think by virtue of even asking those questions, you ar leading your child to think something. if i introduce this to you suddenly, it will become a self-fulfilling proficiency. can you speak to why that is a fallacy? if it is? >> and the studies show, and the task force, they do talk about this, they're looking at is there any harm in asking these sorts of questions. is there harm in doing the research? is there harm in once you give this that the child may be affected in the way. and that you said. and they're saying, no they do not see this. not from this age group of 8 to 18. but they don't have conclusive evidence that there is no harm for kids from 7 and below. and that's why they're sticking with the 8 to 18. but let me tell you this. this is a step in the right direction. after the pandemic, we've seen an increase in anxiety. we've seen increases in
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depression. kids going to pediatric emergency services for suicidal ideation. the fact is the pandemic has hurt all of us, but it has really affected our children, not just the academics but the psychological. this is something we should have done before the pandemic, but now we see the importance of it now. >> what it means to have a baseline in part. you and i talk about our kids all the time. and the idea, you have a 2-year-old. for the last two years, masks has been a part of her life. and i wonder, do you have -- you think about this idea of how it's impacted and how you may have changed from one child to the next? >> i had a child who went from 3 to 5 in that same period of time. at 3 he was outdoors playing with friends and learning about social interaction and how to deal with emotion and process that. and that just disappeared and he was locked in his house with his sick pregnant mom. it fundamentally changed his personality until we were able the get him back in school. i'm glad he is in kindergarten and happy now.
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but these are pivotal moments in our children's lives. and we spent so much time as a society worried about academic benchmarks that we have forgotten the idea of emotional learning. and we've seen this as adeputies in dating. we've dated emotionally crippled people. this is where you start solving the problem. >> have we? have we, nayyera? >> maybe projecting. a little projecting here. >> subject emotionally crippled, john, what do you think about this? >> asking our children and teaching them how to talk about their feelings. >> absolutely. >> and emotions. this is necessary, the suck it up buttercup is not a message i want to be giving to an 8-year-old. >> john you have teenagers, and i totally see this with teenagers. but i was surprised about this with younger kids. what's your take? >> if i talk about them, they'd kill me. what i'm curious about, and from sitting next to you for a bunch of years, as a society, we've done so much work destigmatizing mental health and caring about mental health and being aware of
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mental health. and i think we're much better. all of us are much better at that. but i do wonder if it becomes uncomfortable, though, when all of the sudden we're talking about our kids or our younger kids if we're not quite as comfortable asking those questions. >> asking them if they're anxious or if they're just admitting that they might be anxious? >> yeah, the idea that an 8-year-old might have that. >> a lot of times we are in denial about our kids. and one of the things that the task force does say, and i agree with it, is prevention. and if it's not prevention, it's about early intervention. and the quicker that you do that, the better the prognosis will be. let's be aware that there are some states, you know. we're talking politics here, right? there are some states that are saying keep out of our kids' heads. we don't want to talk about social emotional learning. well don't want to talk about our kids having possible psychological challenges. it's just the academics. and that's the absolute wrong thing that we need to do because we know school is not just about
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reading, writing and aarithmetic. it's also about learning interpersonal skills and who they are. >> we only have a few seconds left. what should you do if your child is anxious? what's the solution? >> the most important thing is hooking them up with the school counselor, having the pediatrician or, you know, child psychologist or social worker talk to them. again, the quick they're you address this, the better that it will be. because if you don't, the chances are much, much higher as adults that they will not only stay with that kind of anxiety and develop some of these other anxious sorts of issues, but also becoming depressed too. >> friends, thank you. >> thank you so much for the conversation. really important. so today we lost a legendary star of the stage, screen, and tv, angela lansbury. and as laura has been teaching me today, part of angela lansbury's legacy is she starred in these movies that are now part of america's political lexicon. and she is going to explain all that.
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the titles of the two films have become part of the modern-day political lexicon. angela lansbury had an eight decade career in movies and tv and on stage, and she died today at the age of 96, a few days shy of her 97th birthday. >> you are a true angela lansbury aficionado. >> you have no idea. >> no, i do have. you brought this up. you insisted we talk about her on the show. you have been a fan for a long time. >> maybe some kids saturdays were spent playing. my saturday nights me and my family, we watched the old families. you talk about gas light, hitchcock, i'm named after the movie laura, not dr. zhivago. yeah, you're impressed. fun fact, think about it. why this is so impactful is we've heard these phrases all the time. you're gaslighting somebody. the manchurian candidate. it was mrs. potts with be"beaut
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and the beast." look at this scene from "the manchurian candidate." and you tell me if you don't see some parallels in the conversation as to why people are talking about it. listen to this. >> i told them to build me an assassin. i wanted a world from a world filled with killers, and they chose you, because they thought it would bind me closer to them. but now we have come almost to the end, one last step, and then when i take power, they will be pulled down and ground into debt for what they did to you. and what they did in so contemptuously in underestimating me. >> this is a whole scene, people, mind you, about her trying to ensure that she can use someone to take over the government. and here is how that phrase has
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taken over. a manchurian candidate, enter merriam webster definition, please, to psychologically -- no, to -- this is the wrong definition. here you go. a person, especially a politician being used as a puppet by an enemy power. the term is commonly used to indicate disloyalty or corruption, whether intentional or unintentional. you've been hearing it, but it's not there. there is more, alisyn. you talk about people i'm gas lighting this person. enter this movie with angela lansbury, ingrid bergman, not berman, bergman, everyone. not you, but the other one. and charles boyier. here is a scene and the whole premise you're following along is somebody is trying to turn this woman crazy. that she is not really seeing what is so obviously happening, the dimming of gas lights in her home. watch this. >> i will. >> nancy, did you turn the gas up in there? >> turn it up? no, why? >> i thought it went down in
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here as if you had. >> i never touched it. >> but this went down. perhaps elizabeth lit another yet jet in the kitchen. >> couldn't be her, mum. she's been in bed for an hour. i've heard her snoring. >> oh, you've got an accent. i love it. >> obviously, frustrated actress. >> extraordinaire. but the point of this in the scene, alisyn is the notion that you know it's happening. you're perceiving it. here is the definition, again, enter the dictionary, thank you, angela lansbury and ingrid bergman, it's so psychologically manipulate a person usually over an extended period of time so the victim questions the validity of their own thoughts, perception, reality, memories, confusion, loss of confidence, self-esteem and doubts concerning their own emotional or mental stability. everyone, the legacy of angela lansbury in those two films is why we talk about it politically today. >> this is all very familiar, these terms.
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let's bring in our panel. they're back with us. john berman, you've been g gaslighting me for years. >> oh, now i know what this is. totally. her performances were so stunning there. "the manchurian candidate" is one of my favorite movies. >> which one, the original or the denzel? >> there is only the original, i'm sorry. she was only three years older than lawrence harvey. she was playing his mom. she was only three years older in real life, and she is so diabolical. for people who only know her as jessica fletcher or bed noknobs and broomsticks, she was so diabolical, convincingly evil. >> i got that. that was scary. >> do people realize what they're talking about? the connection, you're talking about celebrity candidates. we intersect our politics and our pop culture all the time. it's almost laughable.
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people are oh, is that where that's from? yes you're, talking about these movies, and that is the '40s. >> she was also deeply political. family is very socialist. and she tweeted even in her older age saying that i am an actress, and i am a socialist. >> really? >> yeah. she owned. her father was the socialist mayor of a part of london. she came here during the blitz. and so she escaped the horrors of what we saw happening in the world wars. but she started to resent the idea that she wasn't getting picked in her 20s for glamour girl roles. she was being picked as mothers. and she talked later about how she found a power in that, because the mother roles were really complex. they weren't just the pretty little ladies. but it was weird. in her 20, she is playing significantly older women. but she found so much depth in that. and my favorite fact about her, her and her husband at the height of their careers took off and left hollywood to help their
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two children recover from heroin addiction. >> wow. >> like they canceled their careers for years. >> that is fascinating. >> a farm in ireland, right? >> a farm in ireland. >> any fascinating thoughts on her? >> look, i think the way that our political lexicon intersperses with popular culture is something that is a positive thing. because i don't think politics should be separate from the popular culture. if you look back, it was so shocking when bill clinton went on arsenio hall and played the saxophone. by the end, george bush would have played in a band anywhere in america. i think it's good that people are more connected to this thing called politics. it shouldn't be some separate little isolated technical thing. it should just breathe in it. now, there is dangers in it when you have celebrity candidates who don't really want to do anything. but for the most part, i think part of what it means to be alive and today. >> well, thank you.
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you mention arsenio hall. we got to go for this for a second. >> but thank you for showing me the beauty of angela lansbury. i just knew her at the neutered know it all from "murder, she wrote." >> the neutered know it all. >> that was what a tv critic wrote about "murder, she wrote." and i thought it was the funniest description i ever read. >> that show was only two years. and yet we think about it all the time. there she is. >> all right, everyone. it's time for you to sound off. we're going read your tweets, next. you're in here! shh! i took mucinex dm for my phlegmy cough. what about rob's dry cough? works on that too, and lasts 12 hours. 12 hours?! who studies that long? mucinex dm relieves wet and dry coughs.
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i want to know what we have from the world of twitter. >> start with this one from lizzo. not one white person cared about a slave holder's crystal flute until a black woman played it. fair. nobody even knew james madison had a crystal flute. >> no comments. move on. this was on mcconnell. alisyn, it looks like someone is responding to your take on mcconnell's response, maybe a lack thereof. it says i like exactly what alisyn said as a way to react to someone criticizing your house saying i don't think it's right to criticize instead of saying nothing. >> john, did you just tweet that? >> my wife has a lot of experience with people criticizing her spouse. >> i feel for her. i do. from the box office to the ballot box, here is someone criticizing my take i feel on the rock. you all can't be serious about the rock running for the highest office. shake my head. why would you all want someone who himself said, quote, i know nothing about politics to waste our time and run. deems will lose in '24 due to
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this kind of nonsense. because he is strong. and big. that's why. >> i would like to see him on the debate stage and to see how he reacts in that environment of having to go toe to toe with other people. listen, actors, there is a big element of acting on that debate stage. >> yes, great point. politics is performance. >> strong is one thing. i want a candidate in all facets who is going get the job done. here is another one -- well, that might get the job done. from one superhero to another, a viewer asks does john berman ever sleep? alisyn wrote that. >> what is the answer? >> not enough, not enough. there is the turnaround between new and new day. i have to wake up in three and a half hours. >> you're getting delirious. >> i'm laughing at the notion. >> we love that you come on for us. we really appreciate. this but we don't know how you're doing this. >> this is better than sleep. >> fantastic. >> you're lying to us. >> it's like a dream. >> i got to put some boots on.
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>> he is delirious right now. >> watch some movies tonight. "the manchurian candidate" is one of them. >> you love yourself. >> i like the movie. >> you know where you can find us, @alisyn camerota and @laura coates. >> thanks for watching. laura and i will see you tomorrow. thanks for being here. really great to talk to all of you. john, go get some sleep. our coverage continues, everyone.
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