democratic but at least it's competitive. remember democrats only need to have a net loss of five seats for republicans to maintain control. so in theory it's plausible that republicans could pick up more than half the seats in order to gain back the house just in the state of oregon. >> just in the state of oregon. the way you're looking now republicans have a decent chance of taking back the house. >> i would argue so. i think, you know, the senate leans democrat but this particular point if you're looking at the house overall oregon i think is a good snapshot. republicans are certainly favored there. the question is whether they get 10, 20, or potentially 30 seats if it's a good republican night. >> thank you very much. appreciate it. harry henton with the data. watch oregon, and thanks for watching us. now watch anderson if you will. ac 360 starts now. good evening. i want to start tonight by taking a moment to share with you a picture of emily parker. she was 6 years old when a gunman murdered her and 25 other

children, staffers at sandy hook elementary school nearly ten years ago. conspiracy peddler and profiteer alex jones slandered this little girl's memory with his online rantings and tormted his father robby who you'll hear from tonight. take a look at dylan, also 6 and also murdered in the worst mass shooting this country has ever endured and conspiracy profiteer slandered his memory for money. alex jones also slandered the memory of school psychologist. when she first heard shots she left her office, ran toward the gunman doing her best to warn others and save lives before the killer murdered her. no one can possibly imagine what her family, mhave been through

since that day. and it would be bad enough had such a profound loss been all they had to live. instead thanks to this person, alex jones, they've had to endure far worse. they've been told their loss never happened, that their children and parents and spouses weren't actually murdered, maybe didn't even exist. so if there were true justice in this world jones would have been struck silent today when a waterbury connecticut jury awarded nearly a billion dollars to them and an fbi agent he tormed with his lies for so many years. in a better world he would have said nothing except to perhaps ask his listeners for help paying up or perhaps asking for higher guidance for forgiveness. instead when the judgment was read he was on the air streaming the very same show, spreading the very same garbage he always has deaf to whatever shred of conscience or decency he might

have, which he doesn't, indifference to his victim's tears. >> to plaintiff robby parker, "a," defamation slash slandered damages, $60 million. "b," emotional stress damages, $60 million. total fair to plaifs robert parker and against alex jones online a and line b a total of $120 million initialed by juror number one. >> in all jurors awarded $965 million for defamation by jones and his company for falsely denying the incident, denying their losses and portraying them as so-called crisis actors. that's something that does not exist outside the fevered dreams of conspiracy theorists. >> then we see footage of one of the reported fathers of the victim, robby parker, doing

classic acting training where he's laughing and joking, and they say, hey, we're live and he goes, oh -- and maybe that's real. i'm sure it is. >> i already felt like i failed emily as a dad when she was alive because i have. because we sent her to school. and i was especially starting to feel like i was failing her in her death because of what people were saying about her and what they were saying about me trying to remember her. >> beyond even that, they had to endure threats from jones'

followers. >> this gentleman took out a phone and started recording and pulled out from his pocket a picture of me and my siblings. he took the picture and shoved it in my face and asked me to explain this picture and why i was pretending that my sister existed. he was eerily calm but also aggressive. >> i got sent pictures of dead kids because i was told that as a crisis actor i didn't really know what a dead kid looked like so this is what it should look like. i got mail saying that, you know, f dylan and f-you.

i got a piece of mail telling me to slit my wrists before they did it for me. >> well, jones was confronted about all of that in court but proclaims himself fresh out of regret. >> you have families in this courtroom here that lost children, sisters, wives, moms. >> this is a struggle session? are we in china? i've already apologized over and over again. don't apologize to you. >> he certainly did not today and he really never apologized. he also said, quote, ain't no money, unquote, to pay the damages despite having the money last week to flee the courtroom surrounded by body guards who seemed to have coordinated their outfits and depart town by jet. nicole, this has been obviously a nightmare from beginning to

end, and it's not over. how did you feel today hearing the verdict? >> you know, in the first -- when first number came out for robby i realized this was going to be something historic. and the -- it was just the rush of feelings and emotions was just completely overwhelming. and i think i missed a lot after that because i was very much in the sort of, oh, my gosh, they are really sending a message here and this is going to create change. so it's been such an up and down ride especially these last few weeks, and i'm just feeling very positive because some justice is being done. >> robby, for you what was that moment like? >> i don't even know i can speak to the moment just, like, for myself because i was so concentrated on what this meant

for everybody that has been in this with me. and remember that it's not just the families that are on this lawsuit that have been victims of alex jones. there are a numberless amount of people in this country even his own listeners that have fallen victim to alex jones. so i think this number represents more than just us. i think what the jury came back with today represents the amount of damage that he has done to us as families of sandy hook, to other people, and to a nation. >> erica, what has this day been like for you? >> a whirlwind. i could not have asked to be with more loving and supporting people both the families as well as our legal team. i am just so incredibly thankful for everything that every single person in that room has done for me. but most importantly i am so

thankful for the really, really strong message that was hammered down by the jury today not just for alex jones but for anyone who has a sick aspiration to be like him. >> bill, when you began this quest for justice i'm sure you knew how difficult it was going to be. there were a lot of people who probably said it can't be done. how did today feel? >> an utter amount of relief. we never really knew where this was going to head or what was going to happen. and then with -- with the default that occurred, then it was just a matter of, okay, we've determined that. what's the message going to be? what kind of response are we going to have from our jury who hung in there and did a phenomenal job? you know, what message are we going to send? i mean we all belong to a club

that trust me no one wants to belong to. and over near ten years we've gotten to be very close, again, for all the most horrific reasons in the world. and, you know, at the end of it all all i can think about was my family and what it's been like over these last almost ten years. and again as the others have stated, the message is a very strong one in terms of a -- you know, a risk-reward tradeoff for trying to do anything like this in the future. >> i mean it sickens me you had to be in the same room with this person, that you had to have this person in your head for all these years. do you believe that it will be possible to get him to pay what -- what he has now been told to pay? i mean he's flying around in private jets. he has seems like endless thugs, security goons around him at all

times, which he likes to show-off. he has been profiting off this. >> well, this now goes to the texas bankruptcy court, and they -- they'll be the ones to make sure that this gets paid. and, you know, we understand he's been on his show today talking about his gofundme cause for, you know, raising money for this. so it'd be easier to cut out the middle man and send the checks to -- because that's where the money is going. >> as the verdicts started to come through you can see each and every one of the legal team basically break down, realizing what their efforts are going to pay off here for basically society as a whole. >> and it's interesting because you say pay off, and i don't think -- i know that for all of you this is not about money, that money is a way to make --

perhaps make others in the future not go down this road, not tell these lies, not terrorize families in the lowest moments of their life. for you what -- for each of you what was the driving motivation here? >> money is all that alex jones cares about. and the only way to even begin to start to explain -- i don't know -- how he's made us feel is that to hit him in the pocket. it's the only thing that's going to prevent him from doing this to other families. it's the only shot that we ever have of him stopping the hate and the lies and the conspiracy that he's thrown down on us for the last decade. money is all that matters to

him, and this was the only way to get a message across to him, in my opinion. >> on a personal note for me -- the pay off for me was being able to take emily's story back, being able to throughout all of this mess remind people about who she was and what she meant to me and her mom and her sisters. and for me personally getting my own story back. and so for me the pay off was alex jones used the statement i gave years ago as a way to torture me and to profit from it. and he was forced to sit in the courtroom and listen to every word i had to say that night. and i hadn't done that since that night, and i almost forgot what it was that i shared with the world. and he had to listen to that, and that was a huge pay off for me to get that back. and then the second i stepped off the stand i knew that i had done exactly what i needed to do in this, and it didn't matter what the outcome was.

that's what i gained, and that was enough for me. >> i don't know if any of you want to in this moment, but i don't want to leave this interview with the name of this awful person in all our heads. i'd rather focus on the photographs of your loved ones and the lives that they lived. and rob, you talk about emily. is there anything you'd like people to know about emily, or what would you like people to know about her, if you want. >> we don't have enough time for me to talk about what emily means to me and what i think she can mean to a lot of people and that take the time to get to know who she really is. but emily means the world to me and her mom. she made our family the best version of ourselves, and anybody that got to know her really, really knows what a privilege it was. and so to be able to stand here as her dad and continue to

protect her in the way that she needs to be protected even after she was killed, that means a lot to me. and she was just a beautiful person. what else can i say? >> when you look at what erica's mom and my wife did that morning and the courage that it took to run out into that hallway to protect their kids and their staff, at least personally for me what i've done is nothing compared to the courage that she showed that morning. and if we can keep the future events like this that will happen -- and they are going to happen, but if we can at least make it easier for those people who survive and try to live their lives in some sort of normal respect if that's at all possible is why i was on this trek in the first place. >> bill, i just want to point out for our viewers your wife mary worked at the school.

we were just showing her picture. erica, your mom, dawn, was the principal of the school. >> she was. i have said not just for the last decade but for my entire life if i could ever be a fraction of the person my mom was and impact lives in the way that she did, i would have a very fulfilled life. and i hope that what we did as the families, as a team, as my new family, i just -- i just hope that she's proud. >> nicole, is there anything you want to say before we go? >> you know, dylan was the center of my universe. and to have his name remain in positive ways and not be defaced, slandered is so important to me.

and i really did this for my surviving son, jake. he's been through so much pain already. and he's 18 now, and i want him to live in a future where he won't be harassed, where people won't come up to him and say, oh, you were part of that sandy hook hoax. i want him to believe in the good of people and the power of humanity, and i'm hoping that this is going to provide that for him, restore his faith and belief as well. >> nicole and erica and robby and bill i appreciate your time tonight. and i so appreciate your strength and continuing this fight. thank you. >> thank you, anderson. >> thank you. >> it is a remarkable victory. our legal panel next on the likelihood of even getting a penny out of alex jones. and later a significant

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we're joined tonight by the $965 million judgment against alex jones in his sandy hook defamation trial. before the break here's our plaintiff erica lafferty described it. >> money is all that alex jones cares about, and the only way to even begin to start to explain -- i don't know -- how he's made us feel is that to hit him in the pocket. it's the only thing that's going to prevent him from doing this to other families. it's the only shot that we ever have of him stopping the hate and the lies and the conspiracy that he's -- he's thrown down on

us for the last decade. money is all that matters to him, and this was the only way to get a message across to him, in my opinion. >> now, alex jones has said today he hasn't got the money. he's put his company to bankruptcy, which the families are challenging, and his lawyer tried to cloak it all today in the first amendment calling this, quote, a very, very dark day for freedom of speech. joining us now is cnn legal analyst, criminal defense attorney and prosecutor paul callan, and university of law professor mary anne franks. paul, obviously a huge victory for the families. this award i think you said may be the largest of its kind in a case like this. >> may well be in the largest in american history certainly in a case that combines defamation with extreme emotional distress in a state case like this. >> is it possible a judge would knock down -- i mean this was a jury verdict. >> well, it's not unusual for big, big verdicts like this to get knocked down.

but let's face he's facing almost a billion dollars right now. even if it's knocked down to $500 million or $300 million it will be a colossal amount of money. >> can you explain where free speech ends and defamation begins? >> well, it's sometimes a difficult line and we don't really get a lot of clarity from this case because this was a default judgment, but as a general matter defamation is when you have false statements of fact as opposed to opinion and they're made by someone who was either fully aware they're false statements or exhibits some kind of recklessness or negligence as to whether or not those statements are false and there's some kind of injury you can count that actually flows to the victims of this particular kind of defamation. and so the first amendment and free speech covers a broad range of really harmful speech, of a lot of mistakes people might make about facts. but when you've got someone

knowingly promoting false statements to someone injureious to a person and it really does not provide protection. >> paul, how hard is it to get money from someone like alex jones? you can have a judgment but there's a lot of states where it's hard to get money from people who have defrauded people. >> it's very difficult, and looking at his financial empire -- and buy this entire case is about him lying about the killing of these poor children was made only to make money. he was selling supplements with the conspiracy theorists who love to watch him. but he created shell cooperations where he hides his money, and he moves his money around. and he also has tried to use the bankruptcy courts to protect his money. i don't think the bankruptcy defense is going to work for him because when the conduct involved is intentional and fraudulent, the courts are very hesitant to allow you to get out from under a judgment by claiming bankruptcy. so this judgment could hangover his head for the rest of his --

>> you see him flying around on a private plane, see him with body guards i assume are getting paid or maybe just acolytes of his and just wants to make himself look important. but clearly someone's paying for a private plane. is that like a shell corporation or can he say that corporation paid for it and i have nothing to do with it? >> that's what people do when they're trying to hide money. they create a shell corporation or have somebody induce the corporation and on the sly slip money which comes back to the person involved. but if you're a careful investigator you can expose these frauds and track the money down and collect the money. and especially for someone like him there was testimony he's made as much as $100 million which i find astounding selling supplements to people who believe his crazy theories. i don't think it'll be difficult to track his money down. remember this judgment was just handed down. there haven't been a lot of other judgments, you know, are

viable and are being enforced against him. but it's all going to come down on him now. >> professor franks, behind alex jones do you think this will have an impact or serve as a warning who spread conspiracy theories and try to profit off them? >> in some ways that's the most encouraging thing about this verdict because what it really does signal is a rejection of this attempt to hijack the first amendment and claim free speech about lies and to try to profit from that propaganda. and it's not just about alex jones. that's the business model for so many far right extremists, so many bigots. this says you want to skate on thin ice here. well, sometimes you might get away with it, sometimes you might not, but the profit model is not going to work for you or at least it's not certain to work. and this entire enterprise of pretending what you are doing is protected by the first amendment is starting to look really dubious. >> yeah, marry anne franks, appreciate your time tonight.

>> thank you. just ahead new reporting leading up to the fbi's search of mar-a-lago in august and what an employee of the former president has now told investigators.

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the former president's legal team was served a subpoena for classified documents. now this all on the former president's order. the source also says the fbi has surveillance video showing a staffer moving boxes out of the storage room. "the washington post" was first to report the witness account. joining me now is a "the washington post" security reporter. he shares the byline on the story. what more can you tell us about this trump employee with their claim about the former president's actions? >> so it's a really interesting twist in the investigation, and that's we're told that the first time the fbi interviewed this person this person said they didn't move boxes, they didn't have anything to do with the documents. and the second time this person was interviewed they told a very different story, and that's that in fact this person did move boxes and did so at the ex-president's specific instruction. that's important for a couple of reasons. one, because it's someone describing what the president said to do. and two, because that

description pairs up and tracks with the security footage that they -- that the investigators have. and those two things together are -- they believe are powerful evidence. >> do you know who this person is? and do you know why they changed their story? >> the folks i've been talking to are very protective of this person's identity. it's not quite clear exactly why they -- why their account changes so significantly, but i do think one of the things to understand that has obviously been going on and it's hard to see from the outside, but obviously the fbi's been gathering a lot of information throughout. and sometimes what can happen in cases is that one version of events doesn't really hold up to scrutiny as the fbi continues to gather information. >> how important would these witness accounts likely have been in convincing key figures within the fbi and the department of justice to actually seek the court authorized search of the former

president's property in august? >> i'm told this person is considered a very important witness. important in the development of the investigation, important in their understanding of what happened, and obviously important in ultimately the decision to execute a search warrant because, again, the witness account matches what they see on the security footage. >> is it clear to you where the investigation is at in this stage? >> that is very hard to say. i think it's clear that they are moving forward in a fairly risk paced but federal investigations are often slower than the public expects them to be. so what is fast to an fbi agent or prosecutor doesn't necessarily feel fast to people who are not at the justice department or fbi. >> evdevlen barrett, appreciate it. fascinating reporting. thank you. less than a month from the mid-terms and the house january

6th committee set to hear another hearing tomorrow. so what are your sources telling you about what may happen tomorrow? >> so, anderson, we're being told all roads lead to donald trump. big picture the hearing is supposed to focus on, quote, his state of mind and his involvement in the events around january 6th. that's according to someone familiar with the committee's work. i'm also told the committee is expected to make the point that almost two years later donald trump remains a clear and present danger to democracy, and that's not just a slogan. they are going to point out that he continues to pretend the election was stolen, he continues to rile up his supporters with lies. and they believe he is setting up for a repeat in 2024. we're also told there's going to be a great deal of new documentary evidence, new

witnesses including possibly members of trump's cabinet, new revealing e-mails from the secret service, and expect new video that we have never seen before from january 6th. >> is it clear the committee's going to present evidence or testimony from people in the former president's inner circle? >> i think we are going to see more testimony in sort of two categories. we've been told to expect new evidence from witnesses we've seen before as well as new witnesses that we've never seen before and possibly former cabinet members. three cabinet members were interviewed over the course of this summer -- secretary of state mike pompeo, former secretary mike mnuchin, former secretary elaine chouw who resigned on january 6th. all have been interviewed and i'm told they were asked about the 25th amendment and what they thought about january 6th.

those are all possible. >> and this we believe, right, is the last hearing before the mid-term elections. what do you think the committee will do sneks? >> so first of all i want to say never say never. the committee, they still have to come to a decision about whether to send a criminal referral or referrals to the department of justice, so i think we're going to see that down the road. they're going to gather in december to release their report. but, anderson, i just want to tell you i was told last night do not rule out more hearings, maybe not before the mid-term elections, but the committee is continuing to do interviews. their investigators are still working. and if they find something there could always be a pop up hearing. i expect they're going to use every day between now and the end of the year, anderson. >> jamie gangel i appreciate it. our special coverage of the hearing tomorrow begins at noon eastern and continue through the afternoon. hope you can join us for that. >> up next new polling in the georgia senate race and the

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democratic opponent among likely voters. it's about the same about a mid-september poll. 50% of likely voters now have an unfavorable view of walker, which is down four percentage points from last month. joining us to talk about it democratic strategist james carvil. what did it tell you despite all the controversy around herschel walker and the abortion, according to the polls the race remains basically unchanged. >> well, i mean it's unchanged but herschel walker is not in a very good position. and, you know, i don't think the abortions allegations -- what he did in that was in my opinion was most honorable. what's really disturbing is the fact he neglects his children and he's tried to choke one of their mothers and tried to put a gun to the head of another one. i think herschel walker is just

a perfect vehicle exposed the rot of the modern republican party. it's almost like he was divinely sent here as an example of just how rotten they are. >> so let me ask you the flip then. if democrats had a candidate as flawed as walker on the ballot and control of the senate hung in the balance do you really think they would act any differently than tommen cotton who's gone to the campaign or, you know, the others? >> i would like to think so, but understand the origin of herschel walker was he was discovered as a potential candidate by lindsey graham who talked donald trump into backing him who georgia republicans nominated as their nominee. i would hope -- and i don't know this -- there would be no united states senator on the democratic side who would be so stupid as to recommend herschel walker. and i don't think there's any democratic ex-president who would be so stupid as to back him as donald trump. having said that, political parties go to great lengths to

try to -- you know, the united states senate seat is worth a lot. and the more they're going to defend him, the more this is all public in front of the entire country. i think the effect of this goes way beyond the borders of the state of georgia. by the way, herschel's not doing that well. he's down a pretty good bit in a pretty 50-50 environment. so i'm -- i'm wait and see, but i think people are watching this and they're watching just the massive hypocrisy we've got newt gingrich saying we should vote for him because he's got mental issues. that's pretty amazing to me. >> senator bernie sanders recently wrote an op-ed he's alarmed. he said, quote, while the abortion issue must remain on the front burner it would be political malpractice for democrats to ignore the state of economy and allow republican lies and distortion to go unanswered. what do you think? >> i sort of agree with him for the most part, but i think the

abortion issue is very -- people are very angry about this. i think it's very motivating to democrats, but i also think it's a way to show how extreme they are. and there's really a lot of them talking about cutting social security and medicare. and the public when they watch them take away a 350-year right believe correctly the republicans are capable of doing anything. so i think a focus on abortion is certainly warranted and merited and is being done, but i think you certainly need to expand beyond that and talk about, you know, how the democrats were trying to help people deal with cost of living increases, which is so big or how democrats are trying to help deal with other issues that people face in their life. and you can use this as a springboard, and it's certainly a critical issue, but it needs to be used to demonstrate just how out of touch and extreme the republican party has become. >> is it like in '92 all about the economy? >> well, it certainly is about

the economy, but it's also about a lot of other things. you know, it's about people -- you know, people losing a right they had for 50 years. it's about the supreme court not allowing, you know, sensible climate regulations to go through or sensible gun regulations. and so it sorts into the economy a lot but there's other things that work. and also we've had historic job creation, and the republican party has no position at all on cost of living. i don't know a single thing they've proposed to deal with this that democrats are trying to deal with through prescription drug costs and other things. so, yeah, we shouldn't run away from the economy, but the abortion stuff and the freedom and choice stuff is standing in front of us also. >> do you think democrats hold onto the senate? >> you know, i hope so, but i'm told it's about a 70% chance.

i guess i would be a little more optimistic. i think there's some really key races that people are getting really, really contested in north carolina. that would be a big win. it looks like we're doing just great in georgia, you know, ohio. god, was that a bloodbath the other night. i think tim is going to win that race, i really do. it was one of the most sterling debate performances anyone's ever seen. >> do you have in your attic working around the clock? do they send you messages? >> i text back and forth and it's so no one can say because if the race is really close, what generally happens is you have eight competitive races it generally doesn't break full fort, it'll go 6-2, 7-1. if it's a big year it'll go 8-0.

i suspect what we'll be looking at on election night in november. but i don't know that and neither does anybody else. by historic standards we should be facing a wipeout, and right now no such thing is happening. >> james carville, good to talk to you. my best to your family. thank you. >> always, anderson. next cnn's matthew chance in moscow with new details on the crimea bridge blast and russia's continuing missile strikes against ukraine. and, no matter h i paid, it followed me everywherere. between the high interest, the fees... i felt trapped. debt, debt, debt. so i broke up p with my credit card debt and consolidated it into a low-rate personal loan from sofi. i finally feel like a grown-up. break up with bad credit card debt. get a personal loan with no fees, low fixed rates, and borrow up to $100k. go to sofi.com to view your rate. sofi. get your money right. ♪

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people allegedly connected with the bridge town? >> reporter: it gives ussen aidea of how expensive the russian authorities believe the attack was in terms of its planning. five of the eight people are russian nationals. the others are ukrainian or armenian. the fsb, which is the federal security services, which has been sort of overseeing this investigation, saying they believe the explosives that blew up this bridge were hidden inside rolls of film on the back of a truck. the truck was loaded after being originating in ukraine and making its way through a securities route via georgia, bulgaria, into russia, where it exploded. the ukrainians r, for their part, are not saying anything about this, except they are certainly not accepting responsibility for what was an enormous blow to the russian armed forces and of course to vladimir putin personally, who opened this bridge himself back

in 2018. >> what's the reaction been in moscow to russia's series of strikes against ukraine this week? >> well, it was quite disturbing in the sense that it's being applauded, i think. certainly that's the consensus that you get when you watch russian state television, where for many weeks now, for many months even, in the aftermath of the various serious setbacks that russia has suffered on the battlefield in ukraine, there have been growing calls for russia to take stronger action, you know, for russia to take its gloves off, as it were, and to really show ukraine what it can do. and so this massive spike in missile attacks and rocket attacks on targets inside ukraine is really the kremlin sort of pandering to that hardline criticism of how the operation has gone so far. so, generally terms on state media where there has been criticism of how the operation has been conducted so far, they

are welcoming this on surge in rocket strikes. >> president biden said he saw no real reason to meet with vladimir putin. has there been any response to this from the kremlin? >> not direct response except to say that there are no high level bilateral meetings, is how they phrased it at the kremlin, that have been discussed by russia or the united states recently. a kremlin spokesman did say that if there was an offer, they wouldn't repel that. so, they're still leaving the prospect open for a possible talk. that's think a lot of speculation in the background that putin may go to the g20 summit next month in indonesia, in bali, indonesia. president biden will go there as well. the speculation being perhaps they will have talks on the sidelines. at the moment, nothing has been confirm ld. >> appreciate it. we'll be right back.

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