tv Anderson Cooper 360 CNN October 12, 2022 9:00pm-10:00pm PDT
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good evening, i want to start tonight by sharing with you a picture of emily parka. she was six years old when a gunman murdered her in 25 other children and staffers at sandy hook elementary school nearly ten years ago. conspiracy parlor in profiteer alex jones slandered this little girl's memory with his online rantings and tormented her father robbie who meal here from tonight take a look at dylan hockley she was also murdered in the the worst mass shooting. country is ever endured. conspiracy peddler and profiteer alex jones planted his memory for my, and terminate his memories. what you will hear from dylan's mom nicole tonight. conspiracy peddler and profiteer alex jones also >> slender the memory of school conspiracy paddler psychologist mary sherlock, and profiteer alex jones also slander her husband bill joins us. the memory of school so does erica lab 40, psychologist mary daughter and school principal sherlock. her -- husband bill joins us. so does erika lafree, daughter and school principal don hawk
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from. her mom did what we hope we would all do when she first heard shots she left her office, ran towards the gunman doing her her mom did what we hope we would all do when she first best to warn heard shots she left her office others and save, ran toward the gunman, doing her best to warn others and lives before the killer save lives before the killer murdered her. murdered her. no one can possibly imagine no what her family, mary sherlock one can possibly's family, dylan hoffman's family, and emily parker's imagine what her family and all the sandy hook family, make sure looks families have been through stanley, done hockley in since that day. any parker's family and all of the sandy hook families have been through and it would be bad enough since that day. and that such a profound loss was it would be bad enough all they had to live with. and such a profound loss instead, thanks to this of all they've had to live with. person, alex jones, they had instead thanks, to this person alex to endure far worse. jones, they have had they have been told or loss to endure far worse. they have been told that their loss never never happened, their children happened and that their and parents and spouses weren't parents and children and spouses actually murdered, maybe were actually didn't even exist. so if there were to justice in murdered. this world, jones would have maybe didn't even been struck silent today when i exist. so if there were what are great, connecticut true justice in this world, jones would have jury awarded nearly a billion been struck silent today when a connecticut dollars to them and an fbi agent that he tormented with jury awarded nearly a billion his loss for so many years. dollars to them and an fbi agent that in a better world, he would he tormented with his loss for so many years. in a better world, he would have said nothing, except, perhaps, to ask his listeners have said nothing, except, perhaps, to ask his listeners, for whom he takes millions of, for whom he takes millions of dollars by selling questionable journal supplements for helping dollars by selling questionable up.
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or perhaps, asking a higher guidance for forgiveness, instead. when the judgment was read. he was on the air. streaming the very same show, spreading the very same garbage he always has. what are the shredder of conscience or decency might journal supplements for helping have. up. or perhaps, asking a higher guidance for forgiveness, instead. when the judgment was read. he was on the air. streaming the very same show, spreading the very same garbage he always has. what are the shredder of conscience or decency might have. which he doesn't. indifference to his victims tears. >> plaintiffs rob parker, a, a defamation slash slander damages past and future. $60 million. be, but damages, past and future, $60 million. total, reasonable damages -- rob parker and against alex jones and for each system, for a and b is a total of 100 and $20 million. you know, jurors around -- hundred $65 million for defamation by jones and his company for falsely denying the incident, denying their -- crisis actors. something that does not exist outside of the fever dreams of
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conspiracy theorists. >> and we see footage of when he reported fathers of the victims, rob parker, doing classic acting training. laughing and joking, they say, hey we're live. he goes, oh. maybe that's real, i am sure it is. >> [inaudible] [end of translation] [inaudible] >> i already felt like i failed emily as a dad when she was alive.
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because we sent her to school. and i was especially start to feel like a failed her in her death, because of what people were saying about her. what they were saying about me trying to remember her. >> beyond even that, they had to endure threats from joneses followers. >> this gentleman took out a phone and started recording and pulled out from his pocket a picture of me and my siblings. he took the picture and shoved it in my face. and ask me to explain this picture and why i was pretending that my sister -- he was eerily calm but also aggressive. >> i got sent pictures of dead kids because i was told that as a crisis actor, i didn't really know what ike that kid looked like. so this is what it should look like.
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i got mail saying that, you know, after ellen and a few. we are going to extend an or ip greeting to you, in parentheses, our ip was wrought in pieces. i got a mail, a piece of mail telling me to slip my wrists before they did it for me. >> well, jones was confronted about all of that in court, but claims himself fresh out of regret. >> you have families in this courtroom, sir, that lost children, sisters, wives moms. >> it's a struggle session, are we in china? i've already apologized to the parents over and over. >> objection, objection! >> i don't apologize to you. >> he certainly did not today, and he really never has apologized. as we said, he was not in court, but on the air emails to the decision. he vowed to appeal, he also said that they are, quote, no money, unquote, to pay the damages. despite having the money last
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week to flee the courtroom is hundred by buddy guards who seemed to have coordinated their outfits and leave town on a private jet. now, my conversation with robbie parker, erica, colin hockley and bill sherlock. >> >> nikole, this is obviously been a nightmare from beginning to and and it is not over. how did you feel today hearing the verdict? >> you know, in the first, when the first member came out for robbie, i realized that this was going to be something historic. it was chest, the rush of feelings and emotions was just completely overwhelming. i think i missed a lot after that because i was just very much in this, oh my gosh, they are really sending a message here and this is going to create change. so it has been such an up and down ride, especially these last few weeks. and now, i'm just feeling very
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positive, because justice is being done. >> robin, for you, what was that moment like? >> i don't know if i can even speak to the moment, just like for myself. because i was so concentrated on what this meant for everybody that even in this with me. remember that it is not just the families that are on this lawsuit that have been victims of alex jones. there are number less amount of people in this country, even his own listeners that have fallen victim to alex jones. so i think this number represents more than just us. i think what the jury came back with today represents the amount of damage that he has done to us as families of sandy
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hook, to other people. and to a nation. >> erica, what has the state been like for you? >> a whirlwind. i could not have asked to be with more loving and supporting people. both the families as well as our legal team. i am just so incredibly thankful for everything. every single person in that room, everything they have done for me. but most importantly, i am so thankful for the really really strong message that was hammered down by the jury today. not just for alex jones but for anyone who has a sick aspiration to be like him. >> bill, when you began this quest for justice, i am sure you knew how difficult it was going to be. there was a lot of people who probably said, well, it can't be done. how did today feel? >> senator amount of relief. we never really knew where this was going to head or what was going to happen. then, with the default that occurred, then it was just a matter of, okay, we have determined that. what is the message going to be?
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what kind of response are we going to have from our jury who hung in there and did a phenomenal job, you know, what message are we going to send. i mean, we all belong to a club, trust me, no one wants to belong to it. and over near ten years we have gotten to be very close. again, for all the most horrific reasons in the world. and, you know, at the end of it all, all i can think about was my family and what it has been like over the last almost ten years. again, as the hours have stated, the message is a very strong one in terms of a. you know, risk reward trade-off. trying to do anything like this in the future. i mean, it sickens me that you had to be in the same room with this person, that you had to have this person in your head for all of these years.
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do you believe that it will be possible to get him to pay what he has now been told to pay? i mean, he is flying around on private jets. he has, it seems, like endless dogs, security goons at all times, which he likes to show off. he has been profiting off of this. >> well, this now goes to the texas bankruptcy court. they will be the ones to make sure that this gets paid. and, you know, we understand that he has been on his show today talking about his gofundme cause for, you know, raising money for this. so it would be easier to just cut out the middleman and send the checks directly to -- that is where the money is going. >> as the verdict started to come through, you can see each and every one of his legal team basically breakdown, realizing
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that what their efforts are going to pay off here for basically says -- >> it's a troubling, because you say payoff. i don't think that i know that for all of you this is not about money. money is a way to make, perhaps make, others in the future not go down this road. not tell these lies. not terrorize families in the lowest moments of their lives. for you, for each of you, what was the driving motivation here. >> money is all that alex jones cares about. the only way to even begin to start to explain, i don't know, how he has made us feel, is to hit him in the pocket. it is the only thing that is going to prevent him from doing this to other families. is the only thing shot that we ever have of him stopping the hate and the lies and the conspiracy that he has thrown down on us for the last decade.
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money is all that matters to him, and this was the only way to get a message across to him, in my opinion. >> on a personal note, the payoff for me was being able to take emily's stories back. being able to throughout all this mess around people about who she was and what she meant to me and her mom and her sisters. and for me, personally, getting my own story back. and for me the payoff was, alex jones used the statement i made years ago as a way to torture me and to profit from it. and he was forced to see in the courtroom and listened to everywhere that i had to say that night. and i hadn't done that since that night, and i forgot almost what i had shared with the world. i had to listen to that and that was a huge payoff for me to get that back. the second i stepped off the stand, i knew that i had done exactly what i needed to do in this. and it didn't matter what the
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outcome was like. that is what i gained in that was enough for me. >> i don't know if any of yo u want to, in this moment. but i don't want to leave this interview with the name of this awful person in all our heads. i'd rather focus on the photographs of your loved ones, and the lives that they lived. robbie, you talked about emily. is there anything you would like people to know about emily, or what would you like people to know about her, if you want. >> we don't have enough time for me to talk about what emily means to me and what i think she can mean to a lot of people. and to take the time to get to know what she really is.
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but emily means the world to me and her mom, she made our family the best versions of ourselves. and anybody that got to know her really really knows what a privilege it was. so to be able to stand here as her dad and continue to protect her in the way that she needs to be protected, even after she was killed. that means a lot to me. and she is just a beautiful person, what else can i say. >> when you look at what erica 's mom and my wife did that morning, and the courage that it took to run out into that hallway to protect the kids and their staff. what, at least personally, for me, what i have done, is nothing compared to the courage that she showed that morning. if we can keep the future of events like this that will happen, and they are going to happen. but if we can at least make it easier for those people to survive and try to live their
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lives in some sort of normal respect, that that is all possible. it's why i was on this track from the first place. >> bill, i want to point out for our viewers here, very worked at the school, we are just showing her picture. erica, your mom, don, was the principal of the school. >> i have said, not just for the near decade, but for my entire life, if i could ever be a fraction of the person my mom was and impact lives in the way that she did i would have a very fulfilled life. and i hope that what we did as the families, as the team, as my new family, i just hope that she is proud. >> nikole, is there anything you want to say before we go?
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>> you know, dylan was the center of my universe i. and to have his name remain in positive ways and not be defaced and slander it's so important to me. and i really did this for my surviving son, jake. he has been through so much pain already. he is 18 now. and i want him to live in a future where he won't be harassed. where people won't come up to him and say, oh, you are part of that sandy hook hoax. i want him to believe in the good of people and the power of humanity and i am hoping that this is going to provide that for him. to restore his faith and belief as well. >> well, nicole, erica, robbie, bill, i appreciate your time tonight. i so appreciate your strength and continuing this fight, thank you. >> thank you.
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>> thank you. >> thank you, patterson. >> thank you. >> it is a remarkable victory, our legal panel, next, on the likelihood among other things of getting even a penny end of this guy, alex jones. and later, a significant new development in the mar-a-lago documents case reported by cnn on the washington post that the former president himself gave it orders to move boxes of them after his legal team served a subpoena for classified documents. dma! start your financial plan today. ♪ as someone living with type 2 diabetes, i want to keep it real and talk about some risks. with type 2 diabetes you have up to 4 times greater risk of
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a little easier. (moo) mabel says for you, it's more like 5:15. man: mom, really? we are joined tonight by the 9 65 million dollar judgment against alex jones in his tenure defamation trial. now, before the break here is how plaintiffs alex or lafree described -- >> money as all that alex jones cares about. and the only way to even begin to start to explain, i don't know, how he has made us feel, is to hit him in the pocket. it is the only thing that is going to prevent him from doing this to other families. it is the only shot that we have --
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ever have of him stopping the hate and the lies and conspiracies that he has thrown down us for the last decade. money is all that matters to him and this was the only way to get a message across to him, in my opinion. >> now, alex jones and said that he hasn't got the money. he put his company to bankruptcy, which the families are challenging. his lawyer tried to cloak at all today in the first amendment, calling this, quote, a very, very dark day for freedom of speech. joining us now cnn legal analyst, criminal defense attorney and former u.s. prosecutor paul callan. also, first member expert and constitutional scholar universal miami law professor marion franks. paul, obviously a huge victory for the families. this award, i think you said earlier, it may be the largest of its kind in a case like this. >> it may very well be the largest in american history, certainly in terms of a case
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that combines defamation with extreme emotional distress in a state case like this. >> is it possible that a judge would knock down, i mean, this was a jury verdict. >> it is not unusual for big big verdicts like this to get knocked down, but let's face, that he is facing a billion dollars, almost, in liability right now. even if it's knocked down to 500 million, or 300 million, it is still will be a colossal enormous amount of money. enough to destroy him financially. professor franks, for people who aren't legal experts, can you just explain what free speech and some defamation begins? >> well, it is sometimes a difficult line. and we don't often get a lot of clarity from this case because this is a default judgment. but as a general matter, defamation is when you have false statements of facts as opposed to opinions. and they are made by someone who was either fully aware that they are false statements or exhibit some kind of recklessness or negligence with regards to whether or not those statements are false. and there is some kind of injury that you can count that
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happens to victims of this particular defamation. so the first amendment and free speech covers a broad range of really harmful speech, of a lot of mistakes that people might make about facts. but when you have got someone who knowingly is promoting false statements that are injuries to someone -- it really does not provide protection. >> well, how hard is it to get money from someone like alex jones. i mean, you can have a judgment, but there is a lot of stages where it is hard to get money from people who have defrauded people. >> it is very difficult, and looking at his financial empire, by the, way this entire case is him lying about the killings of these poor children at sandy hook, it was made only to make money, he was selling supplements with the conspiracy theorists who love to watch him. but he created shell corporations where he hides money. and he moves his money around. and he also has tried to use the bankruptcy courts to protect this money. i don't think the bankruptcy defenses going to work for him because when the conduct involved is intentional and
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fraudulent, the courts are very hesitant to allow you to get out for me under a judgment by claiming bankruptcy. so this judgment could hang over his head for the rest of his life. >> so you see him flying around on a private plane and museum flanked by bodyguards who, i assume, are getting paid or maybe they are just accolades of his and he wants to make himself look important. but he, clearly someone is paying for a private plane, is that like a shell corporation, and can he just say, well, that corporation paid for, and i had nothing to do with it. >> well, that is what people try to do when they are trying to hide money. they create a shell corporation where they have someone else that they induced to start the corporation, and then they slip them money on the sly which comes back to the person involved. but if you are a careful investigator, you can expose these frauds and track the money down and collect the money. and especially for someone like him who, the testimony he has made us as much as 100 million dollars.
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which i find astounding. telling supplements to people who believe this crazy theories. i don't think it would be difficult to track has money down. remember, this judgment was just handed, down there have been a lot of other judgments that, you know, are viable and are being forced against him. but it is all gonna come down on him now. >> professor frank, beyond alex jones, do you think this verdict will have any impact on our -- others who spread just while conspiracy theories and try to profit off of it? >> in some ways, that is the most encouraging thing about this verdict. because what it really does signal is a rejection of his intent to hijack the first amendment and reclaim free speech about lies and try to profit from that kind of propaganda. and it is not just about alex jones. that is the business model for so many of far-right extremists. so many bigots. this is a really sign that says, you want to skate on this thin
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ice here, well, sometimes you might get away with it. sometimes you might not. but the profit model is not going to work for you, or at least it is not certain to work. and this entire enterprise of pretending that what you are doing is protected by your first amendment is starting to look really dubious. >> yeah, marianne franks, appreciate your time tonight, paul callan as well, thank you, just ahead, new reporting leading up to the fbi search of mar-a-lago in august. and what an employee of the former president has now told investigators. new details tonight on the hi, susan. honey. yeah. i respect that. but that cough looks pretty bad. try this robitussin honey. the real honey you love, plus the powerful cough relief you need.
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>> new details tonight in the former presidents actions leading up to the mar-a-lago search. source tells cnn that the employee told the fbi about moving boxes from a basement storage room to mar-a-lago after the former presidents legal team was served a subpoena for classified documents. now, this all on the former presidents order. the source also says that the fbi has surveillance video showing a staffer moving boxes out of the storage room. washington post was first to report the witness account and
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joining our's washington post national security reporter. he shares the byline on the story. but then, what can you tell us about this trump employee, what they are claiming about the former presidents actions. >> so, it is really an interesting twist in the investigation and that we are told the first time that the fbi interviewed this person, this person said that they did not move, boxes they did not have anything to do with the documents. and the second time, this person was interviewed they told a very different story. and that is that in fact this person did move boxes and did so at the ex presidents specific construction. and that is important for a couple reasons. one because it is someone describing what the president said to do. and to, because that description pairs up and tracks with the security footage that they investigators have. and those two things together are they believe powerful evidence. >> do you know who this person is? and do you know why they
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changed their story? >> the folks that i have been talking to our very protective of this persons identity. it is not quite clear exactly why they account changes so significantly. but, i do think that one of the things to understand that has obviously been going on, and it's hard to see from the outside, but obviously the fbi has been gathering a lot of information throughout. and sometimes what can happen in cases is that one version of events does not really hold up to scrutiny as the fbi continues to use other information. >> how important would these witness accounts be important -- to actually seek the court authorized search of the property in august. >> i'm told this person is considered a very important witness, important in the development of the investigation, important in their understanding of what happened, and obviously important in ultimately the decision to execute a search warrant because, again, the
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witness account matches what they see on the security footage. >> is it clear to you where the investigation is that at the stage? >> that is very hard to say. i think it is clear that they are moving forward in a fairly brisk pace, federal investigations are often much slower than the public expects them to be. what is fast to an fbi agent or a prosecutor doesn't necessarily feel fast to people who are not at the justice department or the fbi. >> devlin, appreciate, fascinating reporting. we are less than a month from the midterms, the january six committee is set to have another hearing tomorrow. special correspondent joins us now with her new reporting on tomorrow's proceedings. what are your sources tell you about what may happen tomorrow? >> i understand we are being told all roads lead to donald trump. big picture, the hearing is
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supposed to focus on quote, his state of mind. also his involvement on january 6th, that is according to someone familiar with the committee's work. i'm also told that the committee is expected to make the point that almost two years later, donald trump remains a clear and present danger to democracy. that is not just a slogan, they are going to point out that he continues to pretend the election was stolen, he continues to rile up his supporters with lies. they believe that he is setting up for a repeat in 2024. we are also told that there is going to be a great deal of new documentary evidence. new witnesses, including possibly members of trump's candidates, new revealing emails from the secret service, and expect new video that we have never seen before from january 6th. >> is it clear the committee is going to prevent --
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>> i think we are going to see more testimony. in two categories, we have been told to expect new evidence from witnesses we have seen before. as well as new witnesses that we have never seen before, and possibly former cabinet members. three cabinet members who were interviewed over the course of the summer, secretary of state mike, former treasury secretary, former transportation secretary elaine chao, who resigned on january 6th. all three have been interviewed and i'm told they were asked about the 25th amendment and what they thought about january 6th. those are all possibilities. >> this, we believe, is the last hearing before the midterm elections. what do you think the committee will do next? >> first of all, i want to say never say never. the committee, though they
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still have to come to a decision about whether to send a criminal referral or referrals to the department of justice, i think we are going to see that down the road. they're going to gather in december to release the report. anderson, i just want to tell, you i was told last night, do not rule out more hearings. maybe not before the midterm elections, but the committee is continuing to do interviews, they are investigating and if they find something there could always be a pop-up hearing. i expect they are going to use every day between now and the end of the year. >> we appreciate it, thanks. i'll special coverage of the committee hearings begins tomorrow, it will continue through the afternoon. you will join us for that. napoleon, the questions they raise. or the abortion allegations against republican herschel walker turning voters away from him and towards the democratic challenger? we will take a look at the numbers and talk to james.
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likely voters. that is about the same as the mid september poll. also, warnock severability ratings unchanged and 50% while 55% of likely voters now have an unfavorable view of walker. which is down four percentage points from last month. joining us to talk more about it, democratic strategist james carville who advised bill clinton's 1992 presidential campaign. james, what did it tell you that despite all of the recent controversy around herschel walker, abortion according to polls the race remains basically unchanged. >> well, it's unchanged but herschel walker is not in a very good position. and i think the abortion allegations, what he did in that was in my opinion almost honorable. of course he lied about it and republicans. but what is really disturbing is the fact that he neglects his children. and he has tried to choke one of their mothers and try to put a gun to our head of another one. i think that herschel walker is just a perfect vehicle to
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expose the modern republican party. it is almost like he was divinely sent here as an example of just how rotten they are. >> let me ask you on the flip than, if democrats had a candidate as flawed as walker on the ballot and control of the senate hung in the balance, you really think that they would act any differently than tom cotton who has gone to campaign or the others? >> i would like to thank so, but understand the origin of herschel walker, that he was discovered as a potential candidate by lindsey graham who talked donald trump into backing him. who georgia republicans nominated as their nominee. i would hope and i don't know this, that there would be no united states senator on the democratic side who would be so stupid. as to recommend herschel walker. and i do not think there is any democratic ex president who would be so stupidest back donald trump. having said that, political parties go to great lengths to try to, the united states and
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its sea is worth a lot. and the more they go and defend him, the more this is all public in front of the entire country. i think the effect of this goes way beyond the state of georgia. and by the way, herschel is not doing that well. he is down a pretty good bit in a pretty 50/50 environment. so, i'm wait-and-see,. but i think people are watching this and they are watching just a massive stunt of hypocrisy. we've got new saying we should vote because he's got mental. issues that is pretty amazing to me. >> senator bernie sanders recently wrote an op-ed that he is alarmed many democratic candidates are being advised to focus solely on abortion in their closing arguments and quote, that while the abortion issue must remain on the front burner, it would be political malpractice for democrats to ignore the state of the economy and allow republican lies and distortions to go unanswered. >> i sort of agree with him. for the most part i think that the abortion issue is very,
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people are very angry about this. i think it's very motivating the democrats by also think that it's a way to show how extreme they are. >> and they are really a lot of them talking about social security and medicare. and the public, when they watch them take away a 50 year right, they believe correctly that the republicans are capable of doing anything and so i think that the focus on abortion is certainly warranted and merited and it's being done but i think you can certainly expand the beyond that and centers, talking about how the democrats are trying to help people deal with cost of living increases which is so big or how democrats are trying to help deal with other issues that people have faced all their life and you can use this as a springboard. a critical issue, needs to be used to demonstrate just how out of touch and extremely republican party is. >> is it like a 92, all about the economy? >> it certainly is about the
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economy, but it is also about a lot of other things. it is about people losing their right they've had for 50, years it's about the supreme not allowing sensible climate regulations to go through or sensible gun regulations. and so i think about the economy a lot, but other things that work and also we have had some historic job creation. and the republican party has no position at all on cost of living other than that it is bad. i don't know a single state supposed to deal with this. democrats are dealing with, it or trying to deal with it, prescription drug costs and other things. so yeah, we shouldn't run away from the economy. but the abortion stuff and the freedom of choice stuff is there right in front of all of us. >> democrats, will they hold on to the senate? >> yeah, you know, i hope so. i'm told that it is a 70% chance, i would be a little more optimistic that we do. but i think there is some
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really key races that, you know, people, again, would be really competitive in north carolina. you know, that would be a big win. it's like we do in georgia, ohio, god, was that a bloodbath. i mean, i think kim is gonna win that race, i really do. because he was one of the most -- [interpreter] anybody has ever seen. >> do you have -- crunching numbers and stuff. >> [laughs] i talked to a lot of. then >> mr. carville, we thank you. >> i text back and forth, you know, no one can say because what generally happens, if you have eight competitive races, it generally does not break forward. 62, 71, living, up to a one -- i suspect that's what we are gonna be looking at on election night in november. , but i don't know, that
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neither does anybody else. because by historic standards, presidential approval, history of the company, we should be facing a wipeout. right now, no such thing as happened. >> james carville, good to talk to, you my best of the family. >> always, anderson, thank, you sir. >> next, cnn's matthew chance in moscow with new details on the crimea bridge blasted russia's continuing missile strikes against ukraine. taking the shawl off. is he looking at my hairline? is plaque psoriasis making you rethink your everyday choices? otezla is a pill, not a cream or injection that can help people with plaque psoriasis achieve clearer skin. and no routine blood tests required. don't use if you're allergic to otezla. otezla can cause serious allergic reactions. it may cause severe diarrhea, nausea, or vomiting. otezla is associated with an increased risk of depression.
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according to russian state media today, eight people have been detained from saturday's blast, the damaged the only bridge connecting crimea to the mainland. meanwhile, according to reports. russian forces inside ukraine continue their attacks. ukrainian military says one title on was hit by more than 300 shelves. joining us from moscow's cnn's
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matthew chance. so what do we know what these eight people, ideologically detained in connection with the bridge attack. >> well, it gives us an idea of just how extensive the russian authorities believe this attack was in terms of its planning, five of the eight people are russian nationals. the others are either ukrainian or armenian. the fsb which is the federal security services which has been sort of overseeing this investigation say that they believe the explosives that blew up that bridge were hidden inside roles of sort of policy in film on the back of a truck. the truck was loaded after being originating in ukraine and making its way through security route via georgia and bulgaria and armenia into russia and across that bridge where it exploded. the ukrainians, for their part, anderson, are saying, are not saying anything about this except for that this investigation is certainly not accepting responsibility. for what was enormous blow to the russian armed forces, and of course to vladimir putin personally hoping this bridge himself back in 2018.
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>> what has the reaction been in moscow to rush a series of strikes against ukraine this week? >> it was quite disturbing in the sense that it is being applauded, i think. certainly that is the consensus that you get when you watch russian state television where, for many weeks now, for many months even, in the aftermath of the various serious setbacks that russia has suffered on the battlefield in ukraine, there have been growing calls for russia to take stronger action. you know, for russia to take its gloves off, as it were, and to really show ukraine what it can do. so this massive spike in missile attacks, rocket attacks, on targets inside ukraine, it's really the kremlin sort of pandering to that hard-line criticism of how the operation has gone so far. so in general terms, on state media, where there has been criticism of how the operation has gone so far, there are sort of welcoming this surge in rocket strikes. >> and a cnn exclusive interview, jake tapper last night, joe biden said he saw no rational to meet with vladimir putin now.
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although he left the door open if russia was ill willing to discuss the freedom of u.s. basketball star brittney griner. has there been any response from the kremlin? >> not a direct response, except to say that there are no high-level bilateral meetings, it's how they phrased it. the kremlin, that have been discussed either by the united states or russia recently. so the type of meeting is not in prospect. but a kremlin spokesperson did say that if there was a number, they wouldn't repel that. so they are still leaving the prospect open for a possible tour, there's a lot of speculation in the background, by the way, that putin may go to the g20 summit next month in
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indonesia, valley, indonesia. president biden will go there as well. speculation being perhaps that there would be talks on the sidelines. but at the moment, nothing has been confirmed. >> all right, matthew chance, appreciate, it will be right back. joint pain, urinary tract infection, diarrhea, chest cold, pain in legs or arms, and shortness of breath. with leqvio, lowering cholesterol becomes just one more thing life throws your way. ask your doctor about leqvio. lower. longer. leqvio. thinkorswim® by td ameritrade is more than a trading platform. it's an entire trading experience. with innovation that lets you customize interfaces, charts and orders to your style of trading. personalized education to expand your perspective. and a dedicated trade desk of expert-level support. that will push you to be even better. and just might change how you trade—forever. because once you experience thinkorswim® by td ameritrade ♪ there's no going back. [ coughing/sneezing ] [ door knocking ] dude, you coming? because the only thing dripping
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a new episode of my podcast, all there is, is out. today it's about grief and, lost you can point yourself one of the qr code on the screen right now for a link to it, the podcast is a deeply personal exploration of grief and loss, this week's episode is about antipasto tory grief. i tell a very personal story but my experience watching one of the most important people in my life struggle with dementia for ten years before she died. her name was maybe mike linda, i haven't really talked about publicly before, but she raised me and was really a mom to me.
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watching her decline, watching all the dreams that i had, giving her a house, having her lead with three. i had kids one day. watching all that disappear was like nothing i had ever experienced. it was a different kind of grief, different with my mom, different than my dad, different than my brother. >> i also talked to a wondered for filmmaker whose mom died from alzheimer's in 2007 after seven years of struggle. her dad now has dementia. she talks a lot about grief as well. you can point yourself phone at the qr code for a link or you can find the podcast on apple podcast, any thing you do. the news continues with jake tapper and cnn tonight. >> welcome to cnn tonight, i'm jake tapper. tonight, we are less than a month, 27 days away from one of the weirdest and least
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